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India-related FPs I

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  Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle.
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  The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent.
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  The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats.
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  The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala.

India-related FPs II

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  The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands.
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  The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment.
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  The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts.
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  The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest.

India-related FPs III

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  A Toda tribal hut exemplifies Indian vernacular architecture.
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  Bangles on display in Bangalore India
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  A Sadhu and a picture of Siva in Kayasth Tola, Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh in Northern India
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  The pushkarani, or tank, located on the eastern side of Krishna temple in Hampi, Karnataka, the seat of the Vijayanagara Empire

India-related FPs IV

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  Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim
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  A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill.
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  A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva
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  A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic.

India-related FPs V

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  Paintings at the Ajanta Caves in Aurangabad, Maharashtra, 6th century
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  The Agasthiyamalai range, constituting the southern end of the Western Ghats, as seen from the rainshadow region of the southwest monsoon in Tirunelveli, Tamil Nadu.
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  A beach off the Arabian Sea in Puvar, Kerala. The Arabian Sea is the northwestern region of the Indian Ocean, bounded by the Arabian and Indian peninsulas.
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  Flowing through its rocky terrain near Hampi is the Tungabhadra river, the major right bank tributary of the Krishna river, a peninsular river, which empties into the Bay of Bengal. The coracles, made of wicker, are traditionally covered with hide, their circular shape preventing them from overturning in rivers with rocky outcrops.

India-related FPs VI

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  The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller
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  An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010.
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  A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output.
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  A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day

India-related FPs VII

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  A bharatnatyam concert in 2014
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  A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh.
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  A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan
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  An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh

India-related FPs VIII

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  The tomb of Itmad Ud Daulah, Agra,
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  A Hindu bride
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  The interior of San Thome Basilica, Chennai, Tamil Nadu. Christianity is believed to have been introduced to India by the late 2nd century by Syriac-speaking Christians.
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  A Sikh pilgrim at the Harmandir Sahib, or Golden Temple, in Amritsar, Punjab

India-related Classic Pictures-I

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  A farmer in Rajasthan milks his cow. Milk is India's largest crop by economic value. Worldwide, as of 2011, India had the largest herds of buffalo and cattle, and was the largest producer of milk.
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  Indian agriculture dates from the period 7,000–6,000 BCE, employs two thirds of the national workforce, and is second in farm output worldwide. Above, a farmer works an ox-drawn plow in Kadmati, West Bengal.
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  Schoolchildren in Chambal, Madhya Pradesh eating a mid-day meal. The Mid-Day Meal Scheme attempts to lower rates of childhood malnutrition in India.
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  Cricket is the most popular game among India's masses. Shown here is an instance of street cricket.

India-related FPs IX

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  Asfi Masjid at the Bara Imambara complex, Lukcnow, India
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  Chhota Imambara, Lucknow, India
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  Taj Mahal mosque, Agra, India
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  Bangalore panorama

India-related FPs X

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  Red Weaver ant, Oecophylla smaragdina in Bangalore, India
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  Female Telamonia dimidiata in the Lalbagh Botanical gardens, Bangalore, India
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  Mysore Palace in the morning
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  Indian Olympic athlete, Irfan Kolothum Thodi

India-related FPs XI

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  Grammodes geometrica, Bangalore, India
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  Mumtaz Ahmed Khan founder of Al-Ameen Educational Society
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  Al-Ameen College of Pharmacy, Bangalore, India
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  Kumar Anish, Indian yoga specialist

India-related FPs XII

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  Taj Mahal at the golden hour
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  Bara Imambara, Lucknow, India
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  Salman Khurshid, Indian politician belonging to the Indian National Congress
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  Indian palm squirrel, Bangalore, India

India-related FPs XIII

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  Odissi
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  Mohiniyattam
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  Kuchipudi
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  Arundhati Roy

India-related FPs XIV

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  Chandiroor Divakaran
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  Karnataka High Court, Bangalore
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  Dharmaraya Swamy Temple a Hindu temple in Bangalore
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  Bangalore Town Hall

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Buddha related FPs I

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  Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945
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  17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background.
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  The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea.
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  Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554

Buddha related FPs II

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  Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand.
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  Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton
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  English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century
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  Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum

Things to do on 6/10/22

• Start the article Singrauli estate (see Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Cleaning_up_confusions_about_"Singrauli_State"
• Start something on the Ethnic fermented foods and beverages of the Darjeeling Hills, using

• Thapa, Namrata; Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (2020), "Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)", in Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (ed.), Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture, Singapore: Springer Nature, ISBN 978-981-15-1485-2 and
• Tamang, Jyoti P.; Sarkar, Prabir K; Hesseltine, Clifford W (1988). "Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling". Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture. 44 (4): 375–385. doi:10.1002/jsfa.2740440410.

• Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

The relevant news, June 24, 2022

Executive Order No. 600: Protecting Access to Reproductive Health Care Services in the Commonwealth, DATE 06/24/2022, ISSUER: Charlie Baker, MASS REGISTER: No. 600 ... WHEREAS, the Constitution of the Commonwealth has long provided a guarantee of reproductive rights independent of and more expansive than any protection provided by the United States Constitution ... NOW, THEREFORE, I, Charles D. Baker, Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution, Part 2, c. 2, § 1, Art. 1, do hereby order as follows: ...Given at the Executive Chamber in Boston this 24th day of June in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty-two and of the Independence of the United States of America two hundred forty-five.

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you.

Ghandi

Hey, I am sorry, but I removed no entire section on the Kheda campaign. Please check the revision history to confirm and then un-revert. Greetings, MeAmME (talk) 16:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Please be so kind to respond. Otherwise I'll have to assume that you don't care, and that I can revert your revert myself. MeAmME (talk) 07:42, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Apologies. I became distracted. Thanks for fixing it. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:10, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

We largely agree re: Buddha

But please remind yourself that grave dancing (or making pre-closing statements) is a bad look for most of us. Accept that your argument is well-made, the move is quite unlikely, and the RM unlikely to be repeated. BusterD (talk) 23:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm acting like the dad. Probably like you, I'm more interested in an enduring outcome than a mere win. BusterD (talk) 23:51, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. In retrospect, the grave dancing, a kind of facetiousness, was the sublimation of accumulated anger at page moves in general. If a title is grossly POV, fine, change it. But Wikipedia spends far too much time on dickering about which name is most easily comprehended by hoi polloi. Anyway, you're are correct. I've moved on to other things. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Attlee and decolonization

Hi - I wanted to ask about the undoing of the paragraph on Attlee and the decolonization decision. I had added that paragraph because I had not been able to easily find the point where Britain explicitly committed itself to self-rule, and the rationale for its commitment. I was wondering if we could restore some of what had been there earlier, particularly the distinction between Churchill's prior unenthusiastic conditional offers of Dominion status and Attlee's proposal of a relatively fast-moving Indian-led process that he set in motion immediately after his election in 1945. Most of the sources I've read see the September 1945 joint statement by Attlee and Wavell as the beginning of the process. I would like to include that information in a way that meets Wikipedia's standards, as I would find it useful to reference. Steve Negus (talk) 21:59, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@Steve Negus: Sorry, I couldn't find your post earlier because it was not arranged chronologically. But no big deal we have all made that error before. (You could click on "New Section" in the menu options above to make life simpler.) I am busy with some other stuff right now, but will examine what I did and why and reply here sometime tomorrow. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:26, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Assistance with the Chekavar page

Hello Fowler&fowler, I was wondering if you might have a bit of spare time to take a look at the Chekavar page. Since you've edited Indian caste-related pages in the past, not to mention the FA article India, do consider lending your views on it.

I had basically edited the lead paragraph on the Chekavar page to say that they were a warrior section within the Ezhava community, exactly as it states in the Ezhava lead paragraph. I used the same reference too. Then another user named @Lakbros changes it to say that they were a warrior caste, and he removes the hyperlink linking the Thiyyas with the Ezhavas, in order to establish the Chekavars as a separate warrior caste. The incident has been escalated to the ANI, as linked below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Caste_vandal

Any views on this would be greatly appreciated, thank you! TheWanderer9 (talk) 10:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello: Thanks for the post and for the confidence implicit in it. Unfortunately, for the next several months I shall be focusing on a small handful of topics only, as my user page and user talk page banners state. Another time, I would have most certainly helped out, but I am flat out of time. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:57, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022

Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions to Muhammad of Ghor, you seemed to act as if you were the owner of the page. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 04:55, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Neither do Hindu majoritarian POV pushers. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 05:00, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

As expected from you another typical uncivil ranting. ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 05:05, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm not ranting. I'm not going to put up with nonsense in a vital article that is linked to the FA India. If you want to promote Rajput grandiosity on lesser-known pages be my guest, but not in the vital articles. I am going to bed now but will clean the lead tomorrow, just as I will the Delhi sultanate page. You are unable to read Farsi; had broken prose in the first paragraph, and no coherence either, which I had to fix. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 05:08, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

You had suprisingly got several free passes despite of your uncivil tone, desregard for any source you don't settles with and as usual baseless accusations. Where did I promote so called Rajput grandiosity and villified Muslims ? You really need to behave in a better way, if not please keep on boasting about your FA India page.

• The lead simply mentions about his well-known defeats (Tarain and Kayadhara) apart from some other which Persian chroniclers omitted cleverly (Nizami and Aulfi even omitted the Tarain-1191 debacle); the very next line say he routed the Rajputs on the same battlefield.
• No, I do know Farsi; neither I touched upon the transliteration part either. I actually read the part (Minhaj and Nizami's original work about his gravesite) and then discovered this in the secondary source of Md. Habib.

Enough of your uncivil and owning behaviour, see you on WP:ANI. ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 05:23, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I don't want to get into an extensive back-and-forth here, but may I respectfully remind both of you that a) the editor seeking inclusion of disputed content needs to establish consensus for it, and b) that consensus is best achieved via talk-page discussion of content specifics, not edit-warring? Save yourselves the trip to ANI, please. P&T, pointing an editor of 16 years tenure to Wikipedia's welcome page with a templated message is also quite rude. F&F, you could afford to be less brusque, if anyone is a Hindutva POV-pusher they need to be taken to AE, not have that tossed at them in talk-page discussions. Vanamonde (Talk) 05:37, 16 October 2022 (UTC)