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:::::{{ping|Kudpung}} in case you haven't seen the reply. If you want to disregard your silly contention that the spell-checker was correct, I am happy to delete this and move on; it just seems like I should give you a chance to reply before I do, and I see I didn't ping or mention you [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby#top|talk]]) 10:23, 9 November 2022 (UTC) |
:::::{{ping|Kudpung}} in case you haven't seen the reply. If you want to disregard your silly contention that the spell-checker was correct, I am happy to delete this and move on; it just seems like I should give you a chance to reply before I do, and I see I didn't ping or mention you [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby#top|talk]]) 10:23, 9 November 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::: I do not know what you are talking about. If you were truly bilingual you would know that in English 'an eu' is gobbeldygook, and a eu is not a typo in a French text. This is the English Wikipedia so If you wish to avoid English spell check robots don't be surprised if they make a mess of your French. As I suggested, the normal route for a translation is to keep it in user space or draft space unhtil you have completed and perfected it. I'll disengage now. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 13:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC) |
:::::: I do not know what you are talking about. If you were truly bilingual you would know that in English 'an eu' is gobbeldygook, and a eu is not a typo in a French text. This is the English Wikipedia so If you wish to avoid English spell check robots don't be surprised if they make a mess of your French. As I suggested, the normal route for a translation is to keep it in user space or draft space unhtil you have completed and perfected it. I'll disengage now. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 13:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::::{{ping|Kudpung}} That was precisely my point. NPP should not be running an English spell-checker on text that is actively being translated. I don't care about this personally, as I rarely translate full articles for precisely this reason. But this dysfunction is why we cannot keep translators, or any kind of new editor for that matter. As a constructive suggestion, I suggest that the bots check for recent activity to avoid edit conflicts. Since you seem committed to defending the NPP team against perceived slights, you are not the person to make this suggestion to, and since you say you are having meeting with WMF, I ask again with whom. You can continue to insult my language skills if it makes you feel good, but I and my barnstars know otherwise, that is even sillier than claiming that the spellchecker correctly changed "a eu" to "an eu" as you claimed on {{user|MB}}'s talk page. Stop taking this so personally; you are arguing about an edge case. The only reason I am persisting is that is embodies so well the harm done by NPP. I don't claim that we shouldn't have it, as I realize that it combats a huge amount of spam, just that it needs to focus better on first doing no harm and address the disdain with which it addresses other editors. I will delete this exchange after you answer the above question. Thanks for your time. [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby#top|talk]]) 13:31, 9 November 2022 (UTC) |
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Jublains archeological site]
Welcome, and thank you for contributing the page Jublains archeological site to Wikipedia. While you have added the page to the English version of Wikipedia, the article is not in English. We invite you to translate it into English. It has been listed at Pages needing translation into English, but if it is not translated within two weeks, the article will be listed for deletion. Thank you.
Bienvenu(e), et merci de votre contribution de la page Jublains archeological site à Wikipédia. Bien que vous ayez introduit cette page à la version anglaise de Wikipédia, elle n'est pas en anglais et elle a donc été ajoutée à la liste des pages en besoin de traduction. Nous vous invitons à la traduire vous-même, mais si elle n'est pas traduite d'ici deux semaines, on proposera sa suppression. Merci. MB 00:54, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- I have moved this French-language article to Draft space. Once it is written in English, it can be moved back to article space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- and this will all go much faster if NPP stops editing in errors and creating edit conflicts. Run along now, I am still cleaning up after the last NPP newbie. Buh bye. Elinruby (talk) 05:11, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- P.S. you *do* speak English, right? I can't quite tell Elinruby (talk) 05:13, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- I've left some advice for you at MB's talk page, he's the lead coord of NPP and I was the shepherd of it for 12 years. You wouldn't want to compare your experience with that of Jonesey95 either. I don't doubt that you are near bilingual English-French and that you do some good work but your articles will all go much faster if you follow good advice and are not rude to people. You need to stop your sanctimoneous insults here and on other users' talk pages. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:53, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sanctimonious insults? Please. When I insult you there won't be any sanctimony about it. Please explain to me, Mr Perfectly Bilingual, what exactly "an eu" means and in which of those two languages. I'll wait right here, all AGF. I do really want to know who at WMF to talk to about this btw. In the morning though. I don't have time for this right now. I answered you, and him, over there already Elinruby (talk) 07:14, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Kudpung: in case you haven't seen the reply. If you want to disregard your silly contention that the spell-checker was correct, I am happy to delete this and move on; it just seems like I should give you a chance to reply before I do, and I see I didn't ping or mention you Elinruby (talk) 10:23, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- I do not know what you are talking about. If you were truly bilingual you would know that in English 'an eu' is gobbeldygook, and a eu is not a typo in a French text. This is the English Wikipedia so If you wish to avoid English spell check robots don't be surprised if they make a mess of your French. As I suggested, the normal route for a translation is to keep it in user space or draft space unhtil you have completed and perfected it. I'll disengage now. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Kudpung: That was precisely my point. NPP should not be running an English spell-checker on text that is actively being translated. I don't care about this personally, as I rarely translate full articles for precisely this reason. But this dysfunction is why we cannot keep translators, or any kind of new editor for that matter. As a constructive suggestion, I suggest that the bots check for recent activity to avoid edit conflicts. Since you seem committed to defending the NPP team against perceived slights, you are not the person to make this suggestion to, and since you say you are having meeting with WMF, I ask again with whom. You can continue to insult my language skills if it makes you feel good, but I and my barnstars know otherwise, that is even sillier than claiming that the spellchecker correctly changed "a eu" to "an eu" as you claimed on MB (talk · contribs)'s talk page. Stop taking this so personally; you are arguing about an edge case. The only reason I am persisting is that is embodies so well the harm done by NPP. I don't claim that we shouldn't have it, as I realize that it combats a huge amount of spam, just that it needs to focus better on first doing no harm and address the disdain with which it addresses other editors. I will delete this exchange after you answer the above question. Thanks for your time. Elinruby (talk) 13:31, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- I do not know what you are talking about. If you were truly bilingual you would know that in English 'an eu' is gobbeldygook, and a eu is not a typo in a French text. This is the English Wikipedia so If you wish to avoid English spell check robots don't be surprised if they make a mess of your French. As I suggested, the normal route for a translation is to keep it in user space or draft space unhtil you have completed and perfected it. I'll disengage now. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Kudpung: in case you haven't seen the reply. If you want to disregard your silly contention that the spell-checker was correct, I am happy to delete this and move on; it just seems like I should give you a chance to reply before I do, and I see I didn't ping or mention you Elinruby (talk) 10:23, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sanctimonious insults? Please. When I insult you there won't be any sanctimony about it. Please explain to me, Mr Perfectly Bilingual, what exactly "an eu" means and in which of those two languages. I'll wait right here, all AGF. I do really want to know who at WMF to talk to about this btw. In the morning though. I don't have time for this right now. I answered you, and him, over there already Elinruby (talk) 07:14, 8 November 2022 (UTC)