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The article is poorly written and has no reliable third party sources covering it. Wiki is better off with stub quality articles like these. There seems to be no improvement even when the article was reinstated with sources. U¹ _quattro TALK 15:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. U¹ _quattro TALK 15:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I've added a few sources to the article[1] which IMHO are sufficient, There are also a whole ton more on Google News[2] which I'll add in due course, The article needs work however that's not a reason to delete, Clearly a notable subject. Meets GNG. –Davey2010^Talk 16:06, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - even if we delete the crufty bits there will be enough of a stub left to be considerably better than no article. Mr.choppers | ✎ 17:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep – searching for coverage in Japanese does seem to turn up some seemingly significant and reliable coverage, such as [3]. I was able to find some English-language coverage as well ([4], [5]), and there seems to be a fair amount in Indonesian (although I'm unclear on its reliability or depth). That having been said, I do want to note that the sources currently cited in the article, as well as its linked article in Japanese, are largely not independent, and I don't think that those sources establish GNG on their own. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 01:05, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed on the GNG part - The Japanese sources aren't actually that great and IMHO the English ones at the moment are the best we've found. –Davey2010^Talk 01:13, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then your assumption about GNG is incorrect Davey2010. Notability is not the sole reason to keep an article.U¹ _quattro TALK 03:59, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No shit sherlock!, Why do you think I've just agreed with his statement ?. Good grief. –Davey2010^Talk 11:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Main reason for deletion is the stub quality as well as the poor format. This seems more like a sales brochure listing everything that is available rather than explaining in detail about the truck, what are the special features etc. This is better off as a redirect because even when sources are cited, they are not third party sources.U¹ _quattro TALK 04:02, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neither stub quality nor poor format are reasons to delete an article. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:19, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is however a solid reason for the deletion of this article Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article.U¹ _quattro TALK 10:27, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::Agreed on the GNG part - The Japanese sources aren't actually that great and IMHO the English ones at the moment are the best we've found. –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color:blue;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color:orange;">'''2010'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color:navy;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 01:13, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 :::Then your assumption about GNG is incorrect {{u|Davey2010}}. Notability is not the sole reason to keep an article.[[User:U1Quattro|<span style="color:darkgreen;font-family:Verdana;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #a6a6a6">U<sup>1</sup> <sub>q</sub>uattro</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:U1Quattro|<span style="color:green;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #"><small>''TALK''</small></span>]] 03:59, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
+::::No shit [[User:U1Quattro|sherlock]]!, Why do you think I've just agreed with his statement ?. Good grief. –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color:blue;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color:orange;">'''2010'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color:navy;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 11:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 *'''Comment:''' Main reason for deletion is the stub quality as well as the poor format. This seems more like a sales brochure listing everything that is available rather than explaining in detail about the truck, what are the special features etc. This is better off as a redirect because even when sources are cited, they are not third party sources.[[User:U1Quattro|<span style="color:darkgreen;font-family:Verdana;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #a6a6a6">U<sup>1</sup> <sub>q</sub>uattro</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:U1Quattro|<span style="color:green;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #"><small>''TALK''</small></span>]] 04:02, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 :*Neither stub quality nor poor format are reasons to delete an article. [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 10:19, 10 August 2020 (UTC)