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Mohamed Ould Khayar

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Declined prod. The only third party source added was this, which is a small 1 line mention. Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT or WP:NOLY. LibStar (talk) 00:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, Sport of athletics, and Africa. LibStar (talk) 00:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination -Samoht27 (talk) 03:57, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no SIGCOV, fails WP:NSPORTS. I've also got to point out that this use of passing mentions to pad out a BLP article is dangerous: is there any evidence at all that the subject of this article is the Khayar who is Conseiller Chargé de la Communication Institutionnelle in the Mauritanian government, and not someone who just happens to have the same name? No, right? FOARP (talk) 13:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the primature.gov.mr source is a namesake added by another editor. Part of what makes this case so difficult is there are lots of namesakes of this subject making it harder to filter through search results. --Habst (talk) 13:24, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I updated the article with a few more sources. What we know about this subject goes far beyond the usual Olympian stub, because we have documented an international career spanning several years and three global championships. Subject was the only Mauritanian representative at the inaugural World U20 Championships and also their only 1987 senior World Championships competitor, not even counting his Olympic qualification. These accomplishments are sure to have been covered in Mauritanian newspapers at the time, but we have no access to their 1980s daily archives yet as of 2025. This is important because we need to find SIGCOV to satisfy WP:SPORTCRIT. On Wikipedia, notability is always determined by the existence of sourcing, and never by the state of sourcing in an article.

I'll also say that there are many namesakes of this person, and I think the primature.gov.mr source added by another editor is not about a namesake and not the subject, but I appreciate the effort and think we should continue the search. --Habst (talk) 13:23, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"These accomplishments are sure to have been covered in Mauritanian newspapers at the time, but we have no access to their 1980s daily archives yet as of 2025"

Please tell us which Mauritanian newspapers existed in 1988, which are archived, and which you can show would be expected to have covered the Olympics?

Because as far as I can work out, the only national Mauritanian newspapers that existed at that time, when Mauritania was a military dictatorship with strictly-censored and controlled media, were the government outlets Horizon, and Chaab. As far as I can see, neither covered the most recent Olympics before they closed down, so I do not see why we should assume they would have covered the events you describe in any detail.

And again, repeating this misinterpretation of WP:NEXIST is bludgeoning. FOARP (talk) 13:37, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FOARP, the newspapers don't have to have online archives for us to consider their coverage. New newspapers are added to online collections like WP:Newspapers.com every year, and per our discussion about Camil Doua earlier, coverage can also come from other countries for Mauritanian competitors and modern Mauritanian competitors have been found to have SIGCOV without exception, so it extends that the same would apply to their 1980s and 1990s athletes from a country that has historically been under-served by Wikipedia. I agree that bludgeoning is a major issue, and making one !vote in an AfD based on P&G, without responding to anyone else's !votes, isn't an example of that. --Habst (talk) 14:03, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - lacks SIGCOV in independent reliable secondary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:14, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable. No significant coverage. Argument put forward about Mauritanian newspapers from the 1980s is ridiculous.
Shrug02 (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]