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Willkie[edit]

FDR and Willkie had discussed the formation of a hybrid party ahead of the 1944 election. However, Willkie had died before anything could be made final. 195.188.181.146 (talk) 14:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Claim that FDR plotted to murder several FBI agents.[edit]

I know Mark Dice is not a reliable source, and neither is YouTube, but I just thought that for the sake of completeness, I should mention this on this talk page.

For what it's worth Mark Dice claims that some files associated with J Edgar Hoover show that FDR plotted to cause the deaths of several FBI agents, because they knew too much about Eleanor's alleged infidelity. I don't believe this for a second, but a definitive debunking would be welcomed by me, and perhaps should be considered for inclusion in the article.

In his YouTube video, "Here's What Trump Is Up Against Now, And It's NOT Pretty!" (The Wikipedia software won't let me link to YouTube.)

Mark Dice says, according to the transcript: " 1:41 Hoover's files also reveal how ruthless 1:43 President Roosevelt was it was believed 1:46 that his wife Eleanor was having an 1:47 affair and after this was investigated 1:50 privately by the FBI and pretty much 1:51 confirmed FDR wanted all the agents who 1:54 worked on the case killed so they 1:57 wouldn't spread rumors about his wife's 1:58 supposed infidel ities the files reveal 2:01 that he personally ordered all of the 2:02 agents who worked on the case to be sent 2:05 to the South Pacific during World War II 2:07 to fight against the Japanese quote 2:09 until they were killed historians admit 2:12 the rampid corruption led by jedar 2:14 Hoover but of course the FBI claims to 2:16 have made changes to prevent such abuses 2:19 from continuing which we all know is a 2:21 lie " Polar Apposite (talk) 02:54, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Racial disparityist?[edit]

Roosevelt is a person with significant achievements, but he also had negative aspects. He may have held racially discriminatory beliefs.

In a private conversation with the British Ambassador to the United States, Ronald Hugh Campbell, he asserted that 'the Japanese skull is about 2,000 years behind us in development,' and he told Campbell, 'Once we defeat Japan, we should encourage intermarriage with other races by all means to evolve their backward brains.


Thorne, Christopher G. (1979). Allies of a kind: the United States, Britain, and the war against Japan, 1941-1945. Oxford University Press. pp. 158-159,167-168.


The existence of Japanese internment camps in the United States and in countries in Central and South America under U.S. influence may have been driven by racially discriminatory beliefs. How evaluate ones this is a matter of personal choice, but at the very least, it is desirable to leave Roosevelt's statements as material for discussion. Pan24423 (talk) 05:15, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To put things bluntly, it's quite obvious that FDR was racist; the internment camps alone prove the guy was prejudiced against the Japanese. Your quotes only add more evidence for this. What I'm not sure of is where to implement such words. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 05:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Territories controlled by the Allies and Axis Of Power[edit]

In the description about FDR’s presidency 1933-45, the second image of territory control during WW2 does not mention “territory controlled by” making Norway look as if it was part of the Axis Of Power. It most certainly was not and was only occupied by the Axis. Please add the additional information. Thanks. 2600:4040:9D3C:8300:FC70:BA8D:E4BF:6091 (talk) 01:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map is accurate. It shows territory controlled by Axis. Germany had full control of Norway, with a Quisling government. Rjensen (talk) 03:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Nikkimaria, if I may ask, what was your reasoning for removing the mention of the Tornado outbreak of April 12, 1945 in your condensing edit? Since there is no edit summary explanation, I thought it best to ask here.

The section removed was in the death section with the following text:

"Coincidentally, on April 12, 1945, a devastating tornado outbreak occurred in the United States, which killed 128 people and injured over a thousand others. The tornado outbreak included the fourth deadliest tornado in Oklahoma history, which leveled a third of the town of Antlers. Roosevelt's death overshadowed what would have "commanded national media attention" for a while.[1][2] Tornado expert Thomas P. Grazulis said that, "even nearby newspapers had more information on the death of the President than on the tornado".[1]

I will note, even the U.S. government acknowledged his death overshadowing the tornado (2nd source).

References

  1. ^ a b Grazulis, Thomas P. (July 1993). Significant Tornadoes, 1680–1991: A Chronology and Analysis of Events. St. Johnsbury, Vermont: The Tornado Project of Environmental Films. p. 919. ISBN 1-879362-03-1.
  2. ^ "Top Ten Deadliest Oklahoma Tornadoes (1882-Present)". National Weather Service in Norman, Oklahoma. Archived from the original on August 14, 2023. Retrieved August 14, 2023.

The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Weather Event Writer, this mention is important to the article on the subject of the tornado outbreak, but it's not particularly so for this article. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I may ask, why do you think it is not important to even mention? It was a circumstance that occurred at the same time as his death and it is documented that his death directly overshadowed one of the worst disasters in Oklahoma history. Obviously not the same magnitude or scale, but imagine if a death of a U.S. president overshadowed Hurricane Katrina's media coverage. To me, that at least warrants a mention (not much, just those few sentences) since his death resulted in something that RS cover fairly well. I would love to hear your thoughts on this though. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Historians do not mention the tornado episode in their biographies. It has its own page Tornado outbreak of April 12, 1945 & goes on the 1945 page. Rjensen (talk) 03:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Respectful comment) – So, biographies dictate what goes in this article? Publications in academic sources, non-biography books, or publications from the U.S. government cannot be sources in the article? Just asking, because that is the sources directly linking his death being the overshadow for the outbreak. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's an oversimplification; those types of sources most definitely could be used. The issue here is that the tornado isn't relevant to FDR himself. It's not like he perished in that. You'd be better off placing the overshadow bit in the tornado's page instead. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'll continue to disagree, but I see that consensus says to keep it out of the article. Guess that solves that. Cheers y'all! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 04:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2024[edit]

February 4, 1932 as governor of New York, Franklin D. Roosevelt opened the 1932 Winter Olympics, nine months before he would be elected president of the United States. The information is on this site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_Winter_Olympics 80.65.68.66 (talk) 02:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know whether this is worth mentioning on FDR's bio page, but either way we can't use other Wikipedia articles as citations per WP:CIRCULAR. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]