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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.
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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting fact). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
April 6 1 1
April 12 1
April 15 1
April 17 1
April 18 2 1
April 20 1
April 21 1 1
April 22 1 1
April 23 3 2
April 24 3 3
April 25 3
April 26 1 1
April 27 3 1
April 28 4 3
April 29 3 2
April 30 3 2
May 1 1 1
May 2 4 3
May 3 3 2
May 4 2 1
May 5 4 2
May 6 4 4
May 7 2 1
May 8 4 4
May 9 5 3
May 10 5 4
May 12 8 6
May 13 6 4
May 14 3 3
May 15 2 2
May 16 7 5
May 17 3 2
May 18 1
May 19 6 6
May 20 3 2
May 21 4 3
May 22 9 6
May 23 7 7
May 24 6 4
May 25 8 8
May 26 18 17
May 27 16 12
May 28 7 2
May 29
May 30 3
May 31
June 1 1
June 2
June 3
June 4 1
June 5 4
June 6 6
June 7 5
June 8 1
June 9 1
June 10 5
June 11 5
June 12 5
June 13 7
June 14 3
Total 227 132
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Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

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How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

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Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[TM:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[TM:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on April 12

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Technical geography

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Improved to Good Article status by GeogSage (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC). [reply]

Sources

References

  1. ^ a b c Haidu, Ionel (2016). "What is Technical Geography – a letter from the editor". Geographia Technica. 11 (1): 1–5. Bibcode:2016GeogT..11....1H. doi:10.21163/GT_2016.111.01.
  2. ^ a b c Sala, Maria (2009). Geography Volume I (1 ed.). Oxford, United Kingdom: EOLSS UNESCO. pp. 2, 3, 8, 32, 109. ISBN 978-1-84826-960-6.
  3. ^ a b c Ormeling, Ferjan (2009). GEOGRAPHY – Vol. II: Technical Geography Core concepts in the mapping sciences (PDF). EOLSS UNESCO. p. 482. ISBN 978-1-84826-960-6.
  4. ^ Scheiner, Jens; Toral, Isabel (28 Jul 2022). Baghdād: From Its Beginnings to the 14th Century. BRILL. p. 804. ISBN 978-90-04-51337-2. Retrieved 14 December 2023.
  5. ^ Brentjes, Sonja (2009). "Cartography in Islamic Societies". International Encyclopedia of Human Geography. Elsevier. pp. 414–427. ISBN 978-0-08-044911-1. Retrieved 29 January 2024.
  • Comment: @GeogSage: I can’t speak for others, but I don’t find either of your hooks interesting. Try to come up with others. Viriditas (talk) 01:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: @GeogSage: I'm seeing a lot of good, potential hooks in the article. Your section on "Early history and etymology" has quite a few. The material about Eratosthenes, the Ptolemaic tradition, and Islamic geographers could make separate hooks or could even be combined into one hook. Viriditas (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Viriditas:: Thanks for the feedback. This is my first attempt, and I've been trying to think of good ways to respond. Would I put a new one in the comments here, or edit the proposal? GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • @GeogSage: Brief response is best. No need to overthink it. Be yourself. Viriditas (talk) 02:22, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Viriditas: I think the ALT2 better fits your feedback. Let me know if you have suggestions to refine it. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
            • @GeogSage: You can click on the hook length link up above on the right to see how long your hooks are. Be mindful of the rules. Viriditas (talk) 21:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
              • @Viriditas: Thanks, didn't see the tool. Better? GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
              • @GeogSage: You can shorten it much more, and others will ask you to do so. "... that while technical geography studies the applications of GIS and remote sensing today, it has origins in Ptolemaic and Islamic cartography?" That's 141 instead of 197 characters. Viriditas (talk) 22:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
                • @Viriditas: Thanks! Shortened to 149, would want to specify "medieval" Islamic cartography as opposed to contemporary, for clarity. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 22:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
                  • @GeogSage: That's fine. You'll need a proper review now. I will attempt to do so, but it might take me some time. Viriditas (talk) 22:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
                    • @GeogSage: I realize this is your first time at DYK. The process is fairly simple and transparent. The hooks should be easy to find in the article and the sources should easily replicate and support the info. These two things are difficult to determine for all three of your hooks. Sometimes, editors who are faced with this issue will simply kludge the hooks into the article with a cited source. You may find this the easiest option. For the reviewer, we like to see how the sources support the hooks in a fairly overt way. I don't see the exact hooks in your current article (I see parts of them here and there), and it isn't easy to determine if the sources support them. If the simple method I've described up above to kludge the hooks doesn't work for you, you can easily implement a second solution: write a new hook from the source directly and add it to the article, showing how the source directly supports it with a quote. Any way you do it, just remember the process should be fairly transparent for the reviewer so we can easily check the hook and the source. Viriditas (talk) 01:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is new (GA) and long enough at the time of nomination. Earwig report looks good. ALT2 is interesting. The "see also" borders on the absurd, so I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding as to how we use this section. Most of these entries should be deleted. Lead section may be satisfactory for DYK, but as a recent GAN, it should be rewritten to summarize the main points of the article, which at the moment, it does not do. Use of excessively long captions also deviates from best practices. Formatting of book titles, such as Cave 1749, require italics. The date is also wrong. The book was first published a decade earlier; 1749 refers to the second edition. You don't have to type out the entire 18th century title; Geography Reformed (1739) will do as a shortened title. Remove the stray comma from "1749,". The SAGE Handbook of Historical Geography says it was anonymously authored but published by Cave. Presentation is slightly hampered by textual issues with sentences such as "These frameworks were mostly advanced mostly by human geographers..." Also, "While when the term technical geography first entered the English lexicon..." Use of quotations of common words and phrases in the "Early history and etymology" section should be replaced with paraphrasing. Book titles like Geographia and Kitab al-Buldan use italics. You write "Geography has a history spanning cultures and thousands of years and is described as a "mother science" from which more specialized disciplines emerge..." I would want to see a quote from the source on that, as it sounds incredibly unusual. Philosophy and physics are most often described as the "mother science", not geography. Perhaps something was lost in translation here as it doesn't make sense. Copyedits needed. The section on "Quantitative revolution" is an example of WP:CITEKILL. You don't need or require six citations for two sentences. You can bundle citations or use footnotes if needed. One citation per sentence is generally recommened, two if needed. Update: I went ahead and made a series of copyedits.[1] My main concern right now concerns 1) the lead section, which does not properly summarize the article or its main points, but I think DYK allows for that, so it is not an issue that has any bearing on the success of this nomination, but it does personally bother me, and I wanted to express my concerns because there will be readers who will come here to learn more and will be turned away by the lead; I know I was. Please rewrite the lead to summarize the entirety of the subject you've presented, highlighting the most significant points. 2) I like ALT2, but I'm having great difficulty verifying it based on your citations (and it doesn't appear in whole in the article, just in parts). @GeogSage: Why don't you make this as easy as possible and mine Geographia Technica[2] for a good hook and add it to this article? I see an interesting one about how technical geography was used during the COVID-19 pandemic to analyze NO2 concentrations, showing that pandemic restrictions led to emissions reductions.[3] Alternatively, I see another good hook that is already in the article, but needs some work. The information about the Michigan-Wisconsin boundary Supreme Court case would make a good hook, but you will need to return to the source to flesh it out as it isn't all that clear. I combined ALT0 and ALT1 together to get ALT3, and added the cartography bit from the "Fundamentals" section, where ALT3 appears, but shortened the entire thing. Viriditas (talk) 23:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GeogSage: This potential hook (which already appears in the "Fundamentals" section and elsewhere) could be vastly improved by adding additional features like forecasting and predicting future events and tracking diseases, but none of that appears in your current version. I'm tapping out now, because I created ALT3 based on the only sources I could find that support each other independently, with Haidu 2016 describing Ormeling 2009, which makes it verifiable and secondary in nature based on the primary. I originally wanted to add a hook about Geography Reformed, but I only found primary sources, with no referential secondary. Generally, with DYK, you want a hook that is supported by a source like Haidu 2016 referring to Ormeling 2009, and that's something you want to aim for so there's a layer of separation between the original statement and the source referring to the original statement. That helps avoid original research which is why I didn't submit the hook about Cave 1739, even though I liked that one. I will leave the final determination to others. Viriditas (talk) 23:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Viriditas and GeogSage: Looking at the Technicalgeography source, it says "Ormeling (2009a) sees Technical Geography as a natural and modern consequence of the evolution of Cartography from map production to spatial information capable of supporting decision-making procedures." If Haidu is attributing, we should.--Launchballer 13:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I hear you, but the primary contributor has written the article using the omniscient narrative voice of a college textbook, which makes having to change the article to Wikipedia style very difficult. I've proposed throwing the baby out with the bathwater and writing several different hooks, but I keep running into the same problem with the wording and the sourcing. I'm not sure I can do anymore at this point. We can add something like ".. that Ferjan Ormeling Jr. believes technical geography builds on traditional cartography by applying spatial analysis tools to aid decision-makers?" but it honestly sounds terrible, and there's no way I can even add that to the current article. Do what you have to do at this point. Viriditas (talk) 23:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer:, @Viriditas: sorry for being AFK on this, my time is limited due to work and I keep trying to chew on this to find a better hook then what I already proposed while meeting the criteria given. I apologize if my writing style is like a college textbook, I tried to keep things in line with Wikipedia but my writing experience is mostly academic articles and textbooks. My interpretation of the Haidu article is that he believes the statements made in Ormeling's chapter "technical geography" apply to the concept of technical geography. Thank you for finding that source on the Cave publication, I spent an unfortunate amount of time trying to figure out how to handle that publication without much luck. The citation chain on the quantitative revolution section is a bit important, as those articles are all pretty heavily cited in the academic literature on the topic. I'll try to condense them to a single footnote. I plan to work on overhauling this article, again, once I finish some publications I have due to an editor. I'll try to implement all of your feedback, as I hope to one day get this to FA status. On the topic of geography as a "Mother science", I'd need to dig into that particular quote to see where I specifically found it, but it is fairly common. If you do a Google scholar search for "the mother science" you'll find references to multiple disciplines, such as botany. On page two of that search you can find an article from 1908 in Nature titled Historical Geography of the British Colonies, and the abstract states "It is not surprising, therefore, that geography is assuming the position of the mother science, and tends to include, not only the physical features of the earth, but all the events which have taken place upon it." In this case, "Mother science" seems to just be the field that sub-fields split off from, so both Physics and Geography could be classified as such, both are extremely old disciplines comparatively speaking. I added the 1908 article as a citation for that word choice just in case. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 01:10, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I completely understand your position and this isn't the first time this has happened. There are a lot of academic, textbook writers on Wikipedia, so this happens a lot! One quick solution is to just find a short and interesting hook. I think a hook that shows how technical geography applies Kriging, originally developed for mining, would be really cool, but I couldn't find anything about "technical geography" in the sources, just geoscience. If you can find sources that make mention of technical geography and Kriging, and how it is used, that would be perfect and I think we could pass it. The important thing to remember is for anyone to easily verify 1) it's about the specific topic (technical geography) 2) it's found in the cited source 3) uses attribution if necessary, and 4) appears in the Wikipedia article. That's about it. Viriditas (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: If you think any of the other hooks are salvageable, let me know. I can't really add attribution to ALT3 into the current version due to the way the primary author has constructed the prose, so if any other hooks can possibly work, do tell me. Viriditas (talk) 20:57, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure where we are with it. There are three possible hooks, and we could add more potentially. I saw some back and forth about it above about attributing claims, and was waiting to see if any of them could possibly work before throwing the baby out with the bathwater and starting from scratch. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 01:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GeogSage: The process shouldn't be this difficult. It's pretty straightforward. The easiest way to solve this is to 1) write a simple hook 2) provide a single source that supports it 3) make sure it appears in the current article. All the issues I've had up above with this nom stem from those three things. Viriditas (talk) 10:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 15

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Dilaw (song)

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  • ... that "Dilaw" was a dominant song in the Philippines and gained international recognition?
Improved to Good Article status by Royiswariii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

ROY is WAR Talk! 09:43, 20 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment, I don't think any of the proposed ALTs are interesting enough - the first two basically say DYK that a song was popular, and the third isn't about the song, but the singer. Any alternatives? Eddie891 Talk Work 10:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Eddie891! Here's my alt 3:
ALT 3: ...that "Dilaw" performed with Maki at LANY's concert at the Philippine Arena? GMA Network ROY is WAR Talk! 03:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To me, this hook has a similar problem of interest- What is interesting about the fact that a singer performed one of their songs at a concert? Eddie891 Talk Work 06:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm thinking something like ALT4: ... that Dilaw was number one on a final singles chart and on two debut singles charts?--Launchballer 18:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Royiswariii: Long enough, new enough. None of the first four hooks meet WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and upon further inspection my ALT4 doesn't check out either (refs 19 and 20 do not explicitly say that they are the final issues). I can call for another reviewer on ALT4a: ... that "Dilaw" topped the first two weeks of two singles charts? or you can propose me a hook about its parody.--Launchballer 11:28, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer sure. I will create for another alt. ROY is WAR Talk! 11:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT5: "...that Filipino comedian Michael V. created a parody titled Hilaw, based on the song Dilaw by Maki?"Source: GMA Integrated News
Launchballer you can change it if you want. The ALT4a is great too, i will leave to the reviewer what they'll pick.ROY is WAR Talk! 00:39, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I like Michael V's work on Bubble Gang, but I really don't think we should go with ALT5 as I don't think it would appeal to non-Filipino readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:08, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What is your opinion of my ALT4a Naruto?--Launchballer 21:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A bit on the meh side, but I'm okay with it if there are no other better options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:56, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Would you mind approving it then?--Launchballer 14:09, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would rather leave this to another editor, as I don't really think ALT4a is that interesting, just the best option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:20, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 17

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Furhat (robot)

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The Furhat social robot
The Furhat social robot
  • ... that the Furhat social robot can track facial expressions and interact with up to ten people at once?
  • Source: Biba, Jacob (May 8, 2024). "What Is a Social Robot?". Built In. Retrieved April 10, 2025.
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Invited to submit a fact since article got a B rating in AfC
Moved to mainspace by Viljowf (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Viljowf (talk) 18:31, 17 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

You can remove it if you think it has no COI concerns. Gheus (talk) 06:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that {{paid contributions}}/{{COI}} are maintenance templates and as such are not disqualifiers. If I remove the tag, I'll probably replace it with {{cleanup}} as this deserves it (to give a few examples, no sentence should start with 'and' and '(see below)' needs to go away).--Launchballer 10:39, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viljowf: I did some rudimentary cleanup myself. I ran this through GPTZero and it reckons part of this was AI-generated?--Launchballer 11:53, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 18

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Brave Bunnies

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  • ... that European broadcasters waived their rights to Brave Bunnies so that the children's series could be streamed ad-free in Ukrainian for refugees?
  • Source: Marian McHugh, Broadcast "Go Jetters helps launch Ukrainian-language YouTube channel", 16 June 2022, ProQuest 2677615627. Quote: "A YouTube channel dedicated to entertaining Ukrainian children displaced by the war is to launch on 1 July [2022] ... offer pre-school and primary school-aged refugee children across the UK and Europe entertainment in their own language and will also house shows from Ukrainian producers, including Brave Bunnies ... The ad-free YouTube channel ... Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content for nothing ... It really shows that the creative industries can be a force for good." Also Connie Evans, The Herald (Glasgow) "YouTube's channel for Ukraine", 17 June 2022, ProQuest 2677284195. Quote: "A non-profit YouTube channel created specifically for Ukrainian children displaced by the war is set to launch ... shows by Ukrainian producers with titles such as Brave Bunnies".
  • ALT1: ... that weeks after production of Brave Bunnies was suspended due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, its production coordinator had become a war correspondent? Source: Natalia Yermak, New York Times "A Cartoon Producer Turned War Reporter: Times Insider", 1 June 2022, ProQuest 2671841726. Quote: "the day before the Russian invasion began. I was working as a production coordinator at a company that produced a Ukrainian cartoon series for children called "Brave Bunnies." ... The “Brave Bunnies” team decided to put production on hold ... I started collecting and documenting stories as a form of volunteerism; I wanted to help share information about the war. Colleagues and friends connected me with various news media outlets. Soon, I was presented with an opportunity to work with The New York Times. ... About a month after my unexpected last day at "Brave Bunnies," I became a member of a team"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Musalla Complex
  • Additional Reviewed to add Sunflower TV to nom: Ein Danklied sei dem Herrn + Phenotypic disparity
Created by Reidgreg (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 28 past nominations.

Reidgreg (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to go, ALT0 is interesting and a well-formatted hook. AGF on the paywalled source. SounderBruce 04:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reopened per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 17:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Thanks for reopening this! @SounderBruce and Gatoclass: Per above, there was a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Brave Bunnies (not sure how to permalink this before it is archived) in which Gatoclass objected to the hook, feeling that the hook fact was only weakly supported by the article/sources. Gatoclass later suggested that I write a secondary article, which I have done at Sunflower TV (2600 characters prose). I don't know where to take the nomination from here. Gatoclass, what was your idea for a double nomination? (I can provide additional QPQ as needed.) – Reidgreg (talk) 15:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies Reidgreg, I meant to get back to this today and clean forgot - unfortunately it will have to wait until tomorrow now. But I'm very pleased to read that you've added the second article! - it sounds like a very worthwhile topic and I look forward to reading it :) Gatoclass (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You need to supply a hook with both articles boldlinked and to provide two QPQs, as we are in backlog mode.--Launchballer 17:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Reidgreg:, having read through some more of the sources, it appears that only content from the United Kingdom and Ukraine was broadcast. And the rights waiving appears to be from British broadcasters waiving rights to their own programs (see, for example, this source). That means the existing hook won't work. But a new hook is needed regardless in order to fit in the new Sunflower TV article, would you like to propose an alt or two for that? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 11:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources say the initial content was UK and Ukrainian, though more may have been added, and even children's shows are increasingly becoming multinational productions. I may have taken too broadly the statement "Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content" in the context of the list of 20 companies named by Broadcast Magazine ProQuest 2677615627 and BBC Studios which 'leant support'. (Checking their Wikipedia articles these include: A UK studio, a UK programming block, 5 UK producer/broadcasters, 2 UK multinational producer/distributors, a Ukrainian multinational producer/distributor, a Ukrainian producer, a Ukrainian producer/broadcaster, a French multinational producer/distributor, a Canadian multinational producer/distributor, and 4 US multinational entertainment companies.) Granted, 'lending support' is not the same as 'waiving rights'; some of these companies apparently donated manpower, technical knowhow and other resources to set up the channel.
Struck ALT0 and added 2 QPQ to nom. Proposing ALT2. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Reidgreg: Long enough, new enough. Big dislike on using QPQs that old, but it's within the rules so I'll take them, and Earwig has no complaints. I see no reason Sunflower TV would deserve a maintenance template, though perhaps it could use an infobox. Per WP:DYKCITE, I must ask for a quote from the source before I can approve this.--Launchballer 01:02, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, provided quote above with hooks, adjusted the location of the citation to sentence level. – Reidgreg (talk) 17:39, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lily Vorperian

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  • ... that according to one reviewer, to describe Lily Vorperian's work as embroidery was akin to "calling Coco Chanel a dressmaker"?
Created by GreenLipstickLesbian (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 20:13, 23 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I have some concerns about the sourcing (outside the hook sourcing which is fine).
1. There are personal details sourced to a masters' thesis, which would not be considered a reliable source (see WP:SCHOLARSHIP). I looked into this a little as I was concerned that her husband and father have the same first name, certainly not impossible but it caught my eye.
2. Reference 6 makes mention of a piece of art depicting a logo for the, but I did not see this mentioned in the cited newspaper article. Perhaps one of the pictures shows this logo, but that would be original research.
3. Reference 8 is a clip from newspapers.com, but the clipping does not mention Volperian's work.
4. I also don't think it's necessary to cite her daughter's dissertation to indicate the family connection (reference 10).

The article has some sentences that could use editing. For example, 'She carried on embroidering in her adult life and after her move to the United States and, in 1986, took part in a folk arts program in Los Angeles', has and odd combination of 'and' and commas that make it hard to follow. @GreenLipstickLesbian: - can you address these issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaffodilOcean (talk • contribs) 12:24, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DaffodilOcean: Urgh, computer crashed after I'd finished writing this. Hopefully I can re-construct my work:

  • Ah, I was wondering if somebody might bring this up! I agree that the fact it's a master's thesis isn't ideal, but if it helps, I'm not treating it as one - I'm treating it as the interview with Vorperian that it is. Crap for notability, obviously, but hopefully reliable enough for the uncontentious claims that Vorperian makes about herself and that were paraphrased by the student. So that means no claims about the impact of her work on Armenian art, no claims about who nominated her for the award, and no more broad facts about Armenian embroidery itself - but saying that she had three siblings, her parent's names and occupations, and who she married? Again, hopefully reliable enough, as long as I keep one eye on what is DUE given that is is roughly one level up from a SPS as far as that goes. The fact that her husband and father both had the same fairly common name doesn't raise any red flags for me, though the name is more typically romanized as Harutyun. Does this help?
  • Reference 6: Ah, you're totally right on this; accidentally swapped two sources! It was in the 1982-1996 biographies of award winners compiled by the NEA. PDF numbers are a little off (there it's listed as 54 through 55), sorry, but on a related note I actually managed to find a Facebook post by the ARS showing the embroidery itself! Sorry, I know one of your other concerns was over-referencing, but I mean... it's gorgeous and it has the date she made it.
  • Refence 8: Mind reading this again? Second column, second paragraph, lists Vorperian as one of the artists in the exhibit and details the time, location, and hosts that the other source omitted to mention.
  • Reference 10: I see your point here, and I can remove it if you'd like. However, I would prefer to keep it in, as it's just another source confirming that Rita and Lily are related. Not that I have a mistrust for passing mentions in the captions of newspaper photographs or anything...

And yeah I know my writing sucks, sorry. I attribute it the fact that I learnt half my English grammar from Spanish and Japanese classes, and the other half through osmosis. If I can figure out a less awkward way to put things, I'll try, but, being honestly, my ulterior motive for any DYK submission is that it gets me a few free copy editors. I've split the example you listed into two sentences, hopefully that makes it better? GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 18:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. For the master's thesis, I would find better sources than that for the statement about 'several exhibits in the California area'.
2. Thanks for updating the reference for the logo. However, Facebook is not a reliable source, so I would remove that. Please also correct the sentence that now says '..though om 1990...'.
3. This is my mistake, I did miss the brief note about her exhibit.
4. I would remove the dissertation. Her daughter's dissertation has no bearing on Lily's work and its presence here just seems to promote Rita's work.
DaffodilOcean (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GreenLipstickLesbian: What else needs doing?--Launchballer 16:05, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've got some thoughts here; I'm sorry I'm being a bit slow, IRL responsibilities have had to take precedence over Wikipedia editing for the moment. @DaffodilOcean:
1. I've taken the sentence out until I find sources from the time/newspapers.com uploads more 1980s/1990s Californian newspapers.
2. Fixed the typo, but no, I'm not going to take out the facebook source on that basis. Facebook isn't a generally unreliable source - WP:FACEBOOK has the current community consensus on it. Facebook hosts a large amount of user generated material which is by and large somewhere between unreliable and very unreliable, but individual posts are only as reliable as the poster. In the case of the ARS, they should be reliable for the date a piece of artwork that was made for them. The sentence's previous construction was clumsy, with the "as of x date" styling, and citing the actual year allows me to avoid that.
4. I've thought about this one - readers aren't going to look at an unlinked referenced that is auto-collapsed for most viewers now, and on one of those articles that (while important!) will maybe only get five or so non-bot views a year, so I'm not too worried that it'll have any promotional effect on her work. That being said, a passing mention in a newspaper caption, especially one that's not really about Rita, isn't sufficiently reliable, from my POV, that I wouldn't want to try and confirm it in a better source. Especially given that the newspaper was published well before Rita did anything noteworthy! I know, when I first saw that connection, I spent quite a bit of time figuring out it it was the same Rita, or just another Armenian women from the same area with a similar last name, and I'd like not to make other editors follow the same path. I'd obviously like to replace the dissertation with a higher quality source, but given that she's a borderline notable academic (the award pushed her over the line for me, but the 2013 AFD no consensused for a reason), I don't think such a source is going to be available. For BLP reasons, I'd like to keep Rita's self-identification as Lily's daughter referenced for now. Alternatively, I'd remove the reference to her having a daughter at all - but then it's very likely that somebody would add the fact back in anyway, and given that it's true, I can't really in good faith revert such a change. Lesser of two less than ideal situations, in my book. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 05:38, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


@GreenLipstickLesbian:. Thanks for continuing to work on this.
3. The link you provide justifying Facebook is for external links, where Facebook may be appropriate. However, Facebook is user-generated content and is not appropriate as a reliable source (see WP:RSSELF). Please remove the link.
4. You have a detail from a reliable source about Lily's daughter. There is no reason for user-generated content to support the statement.

DaffodilOcean (talk) 14:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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James Koh Cher Siang

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  • Source: This is the first occasion that the scholarships, formerly known as the Yang di-Pertuan Negara Scholarships, are being awarded since Singapore achieved independence in August, 1965. The winners are...Koh Cher Siang, 20, (Outram Secondary and Raffles Institution)... "Nine top pupils receive the President's Scholarship". The Straits Times. 24 April 1966. p. 13. https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19660424-1.2.20.41
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Created by BenTanXiaoMing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 02:36, 26 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Any alternative hooks? There's bound to be an inaugural acceptee of a scholarship, right?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Needs some work per the comments above. Other than that, all is good. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BenTanXiaoMing: Please address the above.--Launchballer 14:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Apologies for the delayed response. The nine awarded could be considered as the inaugural acceptees as the scholarship was renamed after Singapore's independence. An alternate hook is suggested too. Thanks! BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's worse. I think what @Jeromi Mikhael: was getting at (and they are free to correct me on this) is that the hook does not meet WP:DYKINT, and I agree (something's going to be first). ALT1 is a more verbose version of ALT0.--Launchballer 08:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BenTanXiaoMing: Please address the above.--Launchballer 15:33, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying :) I guess this is not a very interesting fact and probably not suitable for DYK. BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 14:20, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A nomination doesn't fail just because the hook does.--Launchballer 13:07, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Matthew Wild

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 293 past nominations.

Launchballer 17:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

What I said on ERRORS was that I was afraid something like this would happen. How is that interesting? I don't believe he would have been awarded "best staging of the year" for something that harmless. Matthew told a complex (fictive but based on real lives) story of a man fleeing the Nazis, becoming a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and professor of literature in California c. 1960, suffering a creative crisis and leaving everything, returning and then coming out causing a scandal at that time. This complex story-telling in analogy to the medieval character in a crisis and expelled by society (invented in the 19th century) won him the award, but is too complex for DYK rules. Therefore I intentionally did not nominate. Readers might rather be interested in Wild coming from from South Africa and the production at the Frankfurt Opera, again voted "best opera house". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just as a comment and not a review, but honestly I do think that the original (and now struck) hook was the most interesting option and perhaps the one most likely to get non-specialist readers. I'm fine with ALT1a, but in terms of attracting readership it is admittedly weaker. @Launchballer: Do you find ALT1a fine, or is a new direction needed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the original was far better, though can live with ALT1a.--Launchballer 10:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chocolate crinkle

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Chocolate crinkles
Chocolate crinkles
  • Source: #1: "The first chocolate crinkle cookie recipe can be traced to a woman named Helen Fredell in St. Paul, Minnesota in the early 1950s. The recipe was originally published in a Betty Crocker cookbook, which explains that it was a cookie Mrs. Fredell served in her home, and guests couldn’t resist taking the recipe home and trying it for themselves." Betty Crocker; #2: "Credit for the original chocolate crinkle cookie recipe goes to Helen Fredell of St. Paul, Minnesota; it was published in a Betty Crocker cookbook in the early 1950s." Taste of Home
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Created by MaPhilIndo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

MaPhilIndo (talk) 00:00, 30 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@Buidhe: How do either of these options sound?
ALT1 ... that the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was the subject of a study by the Philippines' Department of Science and Technology?
ALT1a ... that Philippines' Department of Science and Technology made a study on the chocolate crinkle (pictured)?
ALT2 ... that although the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was invented in Minnesota, it is most popular in the Philippines?
ALT1/ALT1a is technically imprecise as it is not the DOST itself that made a study about it but rather one of the agencies under it: I will leave it to you if ALT1/ALT1a remain suitable or not. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer ALT2. ALT2 is better than the other ALTs. MaPhilIndo (talk) 07:40, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nomination placed on hold pending the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chocolate crinkle. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 21:27, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The AFD was closed as keep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:42, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough at time of nomination, long enough (just), sourced enough to pass through AfD, neutral and plagiarism free. Hooks are discussed above with ALT2 favoured, so I struck the others. ALT2 would be cited by the Metroscene article which says "We think it’s safe to say that we’re pretty much the Crinkle Capital of the world", but it doesn't actually say more popular than Minnestoa. I think if more was changed to most in ALT2 that would work and fit with the sources content. No QPQ required as this is the author's first nomination. Lajmmoore (talk) 12:28, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Changed per above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:22, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Xiaolong (Chinese coast guardsman)

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    • ALT1: ... that Chinese Coast Guardsman Wang Xiaolong was made a martyr posthumously? Source: Same as above
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: There is currently a lack of coverage of Chinese military personnel and war heroes, this could help
Created by Thehistorianisaac (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:00, 29 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

Image eligibility:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: I changed he status to OK. Although the image is a non-free fair use image, that should be OK in the article as long as not displayed in the DYK section on main page. Peaceray (talk) 00:39, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm Honestly fine without the photo displayed on the main page Thehistorianisaac May 6 2025
I should point out, all martyrs are posthumous. How about ALT2: that Wang Xiaolong was the first member of the China Coast Guard to die in the line of duty? DS (talk) 17:34, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is also possible, but this could be a bit confusing since he is the only member of the Post-2013 Chinese coast guard to die in the line of duty. The pre-2013 agency of the same name(more commonly known as the border defense coast guard after 2013) has lost members before (See List of People's Armed Police personnel killed in the line of duty), but for the post-2013 coast guard he is the first person. - Thehistorianisaac 19 May 2025
All we need to do is link to the article on the correct agency. DS (talk) 04:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fun fact, the China Coast guard article is older than it's subject, since the article was written in 2009 was originally for the old border defense coast guard, but somehow became about the 2013 agency (the current one). The old china coast guard (border defense coast guard) is mentioned on the MPSASF article, but does not have an english article, so it's currently fine. Thehistorianisaac 20 May 2025
Article nominated for deletion, currently in the balance. DYK nom on hold until resolution. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The AfD discussion has been closed as "no consensus", with the result that the article was kept. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thehistorianisaac: What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 15:36, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's currently fine; Kinda busy though, so I may not respond quickly to queries


Articles created/expanded on April 26

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Articles created/expanded on April 27

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Tommy Akingbesote, Kyonte Hamilton

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  • Source: NYT (paywalled - can email you the password if you need to verify it)
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 354 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Tommy Akingbesote review
  • Article created on April 26, and nominated 8 days later on May 4. Long enough at just more than 1500 characters. Sourcing is adequate. The article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism was detected. The QPQ requirement is complete. Tentatively approved pending discussion on the hook. Flibirigit (talk) 21:03, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kyonte Hamilton review
  • Article created on April 26, and nominated 8 days later on May 4. Long enough at just more than 2000 characters. Sourcing is adequate. The article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism was detected. The QPQ requirement is complete. Tentatively approved pending discussion on the hook. Flibirigit (talk) 21:03, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General discussion

I think the issue here is that the hook is basically just a double hook for the sake of being a double hook. They aren't even mentioned in each others' articles! As such, the hook as currently written is arguably synthesis. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Is it possible for you to propose separate solo hooks for both of them for now? If either ends up being more interesting than the double hook then it might be better to go with that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BeanieFan11, the facts from ALT0 could also be added into both articles. I'm also content to wait on other opinions. There is no rush here. Flibirigit (talk) 14:05, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The only other hook I can think of for either subject is ALT1: "... that despite being the number two wrestling prospect in the U.S., Kyonte Hamilton instead chose to focus on football and now plays in the NFL?" BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:49, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you want to proceed with ALT1? A possible hook for Akingbesote, could be him switching sports for the sake of a scholarship. Flibirigit (talk) 02:19, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11: Ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:08, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just Say Yes (Ted)

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Scott Grimes
Scott Grimes
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Moved to mainspace by Crystal Drawers (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Crystal Drawers (talk) 23:42, 27 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1 implies there was something wrong with Ubach's first audition, which feels unduly negative.--Launchballer 13:44, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Does it really? I never thought of ALT1 as negative, and there doesn't seem to be any context in the hook that suggests it is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 28

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Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2142 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC). I will review Template:Did you know nominations/Kentuck Knob. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Asking 4meter4 if he could propose a new hook, or possibly expand the article to include additional possible hook options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bremps: Does anything in the article stand out as a possible hook suggestion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This song was believed to been medieval but actually was a 19th century paraphrase, which became popular with the Youth movement (1920s) and - most surprising - is still popular today. Sorry that it is complex. I see a double quirkiness in it - the belief that is was medieval (but still popular today) and the unexpected interest in the 1920s (but still popular today). When a topic has a complex history why not speak/teach about that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That information about it being a paraphrase is not currently in the article. If it's added to the article and a clear non-technical hook based on it is proposed, I think it could work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In the article: "Ströse published a poem collection in 1878, Deutsche Minne aus alter Zeit – ausgewählte Lieder der Minnesänger des Mittelalters, presenting medieval poems in his free transcription." - bolding by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Trying to please, I changed the verb to "paraphrased" in the sentence regarding this paticular song, one from that collection. Please help wording a hook, - perhaps you are able to word that for a long time it was still believed to be medieval. The 1920 youth movement should be present to connect to the image, also it seems worth knowing that for decades, the song remained in the background, but then hit some nerve. Please let's get this up soon, or spring will be over. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0a: ... that "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (Now Spring wants to greet us) is a 1878 song, paraphrasing a medieval poem, which became popular with the 1920s youth movement (pictured)?
That's a bit hard to read. How does the following reword sound? Special thanks to MallardTV for the suggestion, courtesy ping to Bremps too:
ALT0b: ... that the 1878 German spring song "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (score pictured) was inspired by a medieval poem and gained fame in the 1920s youth movement?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:51, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comprehensible and interesting. Let's roll. Bremps... 02:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bremps: Thank you. I guess this is ready for a full review now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:50, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies if I wasn't clear, but all I was doing was making passing comments. Bremps... 04:22, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I bet that will land at ERRORS for saying "inspired" instead of "paraphrased", and you left out the quirky possibility that it was taken for medieval. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Long enough, new enough. QPQ is complete and Earwig is clean. I don't see any reason why this might deserve a maintenance template or how the article backs up either of the surviving ALTs.--Launchballer 16:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure that I understand "maintenance". I tried to avoid the name of Neidhart in the hook, but don't see why it should not be mentioned normally in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CTAGS are sometimes known as maintenance tags. The problem you have is that the article doesn't mention 'youth movement' or how 'included in song books' equals 'popular'.--Launchballer 19:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I expanded a bit to clarify. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Italian brainrot

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An example of these surrealist creatures
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Created by Thegoofhere (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Thegoofhere (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, but I'd like to point out some things for the benefit of the first-time nominator here. The article in question is linked in bold from the hook, which I've done. Thegoofhere, there is also a failed verification tag that will need addressing before the page is passed. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: No - ?
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article was created on 26 April, and was nominated for DYK on 3 May, which is eight days later including both days. Time limit is usually seven days, although it is noted that "the seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request". Prose size of the main body (not counting references) is of 962 words , which comes short of the 1500 characters required. No copyright violations, plagiarism or close paraphrasing has been found in the article. It has a tone template that I do not think it applies to the current content of the article. The hook is not particularly interesting or intriguing, and in its cited source at no point mentions this trend is particularly popular in Europe, just popular in general. Since the picture used is AI generated, it holds no copyright. It also looks good and clear at a 100px. A QPQ is not required for this nomination. NeoGaze (talk) 11:12, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 30

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Soliloquy

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5x expanded by MallardTV (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

MallardTV Talk to me! 11:29, 30 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • DYK compliance check:
Topic is encyclopedic
Article created November 20, 2003. Qualification for DYK is per 5x expansion.
Article is minimum length for DYK (2953 words)
Article is well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free.
Article is presentable
All hooks are cited to a reliable source
All hooks are short enough.
All hooks are interesting. I am veering towards the first because the wording gives it a mysterious quality.
Not applicable: hook does not have image
Not applicable: QPQ not required
RESULT: ViperSnake151  Talk  02:41, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reopened per WT:DYK. Big sourcing deficiencies here.--Launchballer 22:16, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that this is now at WP:GAR, so will need to go on hold anyway.--Launchballer 14:30, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 3

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Torta caprese

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Torta caprese
Torta caprese
Improved to Good Article status by Vacant0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 3 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As flagged at WT:DYK, I am uncomfortable with the sourcing for this DYK hook. It's hardly a "hypothesis" but rather more like an "urban legend" that no one will seriously "test". When you go back to the sources, they discuss the claim very vaguely and unconvincingly. This is precisely the kind of claim that lands at WP:ERRORS. It's really confusing within the article itself as well – are we saying that the cake originated in Capri, but that it's possible the Italian-American mafia might have invented it in the United States? @Vacant0, BeanieFan11, History6042, and Chiswick Chap: Pinging. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cielquiparle, BeanieFan11, and Vacant0: How does this ALT sound? ALT1 ... that the Torta caprese (pictured) has been referred to as "one of history's most fortunate mistakes?" Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me! Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 hook looks OK but the article is still not OK. It currently says, "It originates from the island of Capri, however its story is disputed." We are stating in wikivoice that the cake's origins in the island of Capri are a FACT (citing just one source, an Australian foodie channel). And then we're saying the origins are "disputed" and uses words like "hypothesis". It's clumsy and misleading, almost like we're saying this is a deep academic debate between historians when in fact it's just food journalists and recipe writers writing breezy magazine stories – which is fine but then let's revise to present it more like it is (urban myth? pop culture? meme? but not science and not serious history). And if the encyclopedic entry is stating as fact that the cake originated in Capri, are there other sources we could cite? Until it's fixed I frankly am not sure it's main page or even GA-worthy. Maybe that's harsh but that's what some critics will say at WP:ERRORS on the day...and it's a picture hook so it gets extra scrutiny. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, @Cielquiparle:. Could you take a look at the article again? I've rewrote that part and added attributions where applicable. For the origin, I've added sources from The New York Times and La Cucina Italiana. I've removed Cookist but kept Food52, considering that the article was written by a cookbook author. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Vacant0. The sourcing seems a bit better. Could you revise the lede and make sure it actually says what you mean it to say? "Conjecture" maybe? Surely not "hypothesis". What does it mean that its story is "disputed"? Are your sources saying "no, the claim that this originates in Capri is incorrect"? I'm not sure they are. Maybe they're saying "here are some other popular stories that people like to tell about its origins"; they simply exist as alternate word-of-mouth explanations...that I think you're suggesting are completely unreliable and untrue since you're certain the cake originated in Capri? Cielquiparle (talk) 13:05, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I think I phrased that incorrectly. No one is disputing that the cake originates from Capri. I've forgot to update the lede, should be good now though. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:58, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 4

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Deportation and detention of American citizens in the second Trump administration

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  • Comment: This was submitted a little over a week (created on May 4 but submitted on May 12) but I wasn't sure was any flexibility on that. But it has expanded 5x since May 5 so maybe that is good enough to qualify.
Created by Remember (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Remember (talk) 21:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment. @Remember: I can only speak for myself, but I don't see the submission date as the major problem. The article needs a lot of work to meet DYK and I wouldn't pass it in its current state. You could try to do a marathon cleanup session like you did before, but you would have to put a lot of time and energy into fixing this from where I stand. Perhaps you can start by replacing the massive number of quotes with simple paraphrasing. I would say that half of the quotes should not even be there because they should be easily paraphrased. Then you've got the problem of the small sections with one or two sentences. The sourcing is high quality, so that's good, but the content needs to be written for Wikipedia using house style. Viriditas (talk) 20:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: Ok. I think I can do that. Is there a time frame that this needs to be accomplished by? Remember (talk) 21:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:DYKTIMEOUT. Viriditas (talk) 21:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Ok. I think I have time. Remember (talk) 22:34, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: What about now? Remember (talk) 16:29, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Remember: Using a hatnote, the lead section, or a series sidebar, try to figure out how to immediately tell the reader how this fits into the larger topic. You've currently got deportation of Americans from the United States but it should be linked at the top in the lead or as a hatnote or as a series template. In turn, it should be made clear right away that this is part of the larger topic, deportation in the second presidency of Donald Trump, which depends on the interpretation of the laws discussed at deportation of Americans from the United States. You may also want to compare this to other kinds of deportations linked at activist deportations in the second Trump presidency and possibly list of immigration raids in the second Trump presidency. All I'm trying to say is place the entire subject you are writing about in the appropriate context for a reader who knows nothing about the subject. The background and the lead section might be a good place to briefly do this. Your background section uses voice that is less than ideal and represents a kind of breaking news rather than encyclopedic house style. Try to reframe this as if you are writing about it 20 years from now (even though it is happening now). Viriditas (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: Will do!
@Viriditas: Tried to fix the issue you raised. Remember (talk) 02:13, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Remember: You're definitely on the road to improvement and you're headed in the right direction. However, please go back and read the article again. It needs more revisions. Focus on one section at a time. Viriditas (talk) 02:15, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: Tried again. Remember (talk) 02:54, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 5

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Leander Wiegand

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  • Source: ELF ("Leander is the first athlete from Germany to receive a full scholarship to Division I without the college ever seeing him play before.")
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 358 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@BeanieFan11, grapesurgeon (fantastic username), and AirshipJungleman29: I've pulled this hook partially because there's a fatal defect with the hook itself and partially because I'm not comfortable with the article's current sourcing. First, the hook is sourced to a the player's self-proclaimed mentor giving an interview to a league they've both played in. Interviews can be reliable, but I don't see how this one can be given that the interviewer isn't a professional journalist, the publication isn't independent, and the interviewee is essentially self-publishing claims about a living third party. Second – and this is more subjective – articles should be based on independent sources, but I'm seeing more citations to league publications than I am actual independent publications (and that's before we get into the fact that apparently, the fantastically-named Hamburger Morgenpost disappointingly uses AI in its editorial work). So, sending this back here for more work – hopefully there's a better source to back up the hook, or another hook that can be found? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:54, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • My mistake on not catching that. Acknowledge your points (and I'm glad you like my username) grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 19:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Will look into this tomorrow or Tuesday. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Theleekycauldron: This is one of those things where I'm thinking "I don't see how this could be wrong". The hook would be true unless his mentor is completely lying – for them to have watched him play, they would have needed to send out scouts to Germany (since he didn't play in the U.S. by that point), something very unlikely. However, what do you think about something like ALT1 ... that NFL player Leander Wiegand formerly played handball in Germany? / ALT2 ... that NFL player Leander Wiegand only became interested in American football at age 19? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:12, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well, hang on. If the draw of the original hook is that it's unusual for him to have gotten that scholarship without the college having seen him play, how can it also be so trivial as to not even need more than one person's word to support it? If it's intuitively obvious, I wouldn't want to dress it up as unusual or intriguing. I think the new alts are best handled by another reviewer, and the sourcing issues with the article overall do still need to be addressed. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:00, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • Its very rare that German athletes receive college football scholarships to begin with, but I could accept going with either alt. Aside from that, what number of 'non-independent' sources do you prefer be replaced with independent sources? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
            • Enough to meet the WP:RS requirement that Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, I s'pose? Hard to put a specific number on it. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:49, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

George Attla

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5x expanded by Annwfwn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Annwfwn (talk) 01:01, 9 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment — Uninteresting as written when it's well known that his leg was fused as a result of the tuberculosis and he still went on win tons of competitions in spite of the disability. Also, using a paid obituary for the source when there's seemingly no end to actual reliable sources discussing his life? Similarly, using a non-free image scavenged off the web when there are numerous publications with expired copyrights containing photos of Attla? To the latter point, as we continue to claim to be a collaborative environment, all you had to do was ask. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I added a different source, there are plenty. Perhaps you can find an image? This is, as you pointed out, a collaborative project. I did not find numerous publications where the copyright had expired and so left the image placed by a previous editor. Annwfwn (talk) 10:40, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Almost a month since the last work on this nom and there has been no improvement to the image or to the hook. @Annwfwn: Please have both matters remedied in the next 48 hours or I think we should pass on this for DYK. Consider RadioKAOS's suggestion for an ALT hook. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have been unable to locate a free image, perhaps one exists but not one I can undoubtedly prove is no longer protected by copywrite. Per WP:DYKIMG, fair use images are not permitted on the main page, but I do not see anywhere that they cannot be used in the article itself - if this is the case, I can remove it. As far as the hook, I can rewrite the hook, but frankly I'm surprised that anyone outside of Alaska or the dog mushing world would be familiar with this. I'm also surprised to have a vote for decline as this DYK has never been formally reviewed. Annwfwn (talk) 18:11, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be a disconnect on the two issues here. The first is that you're correct about fair use images being permitted in articles, but that fair use is only for when we don't have access to images that are outside of copyright. I'm not sure why RadioKAOS is certain there are images of the subject outside of copyright, but I'll let them explain if they'd like. The second issue is that the hook, as is, is uninteresting. A more interesting detail of this subject is that which RadioKAOS highlighted above regarding overcoming a significant childhood disease. If you require further explanation, please ping me! ~ Pbritti (talk)


Articles created/expanded on May 7

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Star Trek: Day of Blood

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Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 128 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 14:31, 7 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Cambalachero All sources that I can find verify the hook fact. The reading order section needs to be referenced. I am not approving ALT1 as not interesting. SL93 (talk) 22:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking at the article right now and nothing stands out as a hook that works for non-Trekkies. If no agreement on a new hook can be made, or no new hook can be proposed, we may have to fail this one unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I thought so also. SL93 (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. Is the hook really all that interesting if you aren't a Trekkie? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:24, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5 Is Template:Did you know nominations/The Interstellar Song Contest any different? It is in prep 6. SL93 (talk) 13:08, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a different case. For one, that hook makes sense even if someone isn't a fan of Star Trek. A character going that long between appearances is at least going to raise eyebrows among an average reader. ALT0 seems to be appealing more to Trekkies: I'm not sure if a non-Trekkie would be as interested in knowing about crossovers or things like that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:46, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Crossovers are a type of comic book publication, usually used by Marvel Comics and DC Comics. You can expect them to "raise an eyebrow" Spock-style when they notice that someone else is stealing their thunder. And, as said, first work of its kind. Cambalachero (talk) 23:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 9

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Pilot (Arrested Development)

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Improved to Good Article status by Crystal Drawers (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Crystal Drawers (talk) 02:41, 9 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@Crystal Drawers and Soman: per discussion at WT:DYK, I've pulled this one out of queue because of unresolved sourcing questions. I'll come back around in a bit to summarize where my thoughts are :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Crystal Drawers: Thanks for waiting, and sorry for a long message in advance! So, you mentioned this draft of a possible addition to the Manual of Style – I would say that even if it were part of the MoS, it still wouldn't supersede the basic principles of what goes into an article. Neither does the fact that some or even many other articles aren't written to the same standards – lots of articles were written at a time when standards were lower or in a topic area where enforcement of policy is less rigorous, but that doesn't mean that policy shouldn't be enforced rigorously.

As to what discourages using DVD extras: I would argue that a core principle on Wikipedia is that our coverage of a topic is shaped by independent, professional sources. They're the people we trust to separate what's important and true from what isn't, and overusing self-published material gets in the way of that ideal. The guideline I'll cite here is WP:SELFSOURCE, which says that people can be reliable sources of information about themselves as long as the source does not involve claims about third parties; it also says that use of self-sourced material should be minimal; the great majority of any article must be drawn from independent sources. I do see some self-published sources being used for claims about third parties, and I wouldn't say that the use of non-independent sources in the article is minimal.

I do think that correcting the first one would go a long way towards addressing the second, so I hope I'm not pushing too much of a burden on you! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help :) also, I kinda wanna get around to watching this show now. it's been on my list forever...theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: What makes citing DVD extras different to citing the episode itself, which is allowed per WP:PLOTSOURCE?--Launchballer 21:22, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I'd say that plot is different from real-world information. PLOTSOURCE is a specific carveout from our general policy of prioritizing secondary and independent sources, in recognition of the fact that the plot of a work is self-contained and easily accessible, so all we have to do is summarize the information the same way we would any other source. If we required a professional org to do that work first, we just wouldn't have plot sections in most book articles (even though I do like secondarily-sourced plot summaries where available). Still – we wouldn't, for example, cite a DVD extra for interpretation of the work. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:00, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In which case, @Crystal Drawers: please address the above.--Launchballer 22:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: @Launchballer:, I apologize for my lateness, I have a lot of testing this week so I have been studying instead of doing my usual Wikipedia editing. I will have it done by the end of the weekend Crystal Drawers (talk) 02:14, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No rush, Crystal Drawers, best of luck on your tests!! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:05, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Irwin, William (November 8, 2011). Arrested Development and Philosophy: They've Made a Huge Mistake. Wiley. ISBN 9781118146262.

Agnes Gallus

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Created by Harrietcyy (talk) and BuySomeApples (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

BuySomeApples (talk) 03:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 10

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Mykola Chaikovsky

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 558 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:24, 10 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Viriditas: This is why I said "one of the first". As far as I can tell from my research, this is correct - and the work is also called THE first work of SF in Ukrainian language. Anyway, "one of the first" should really be not a controversial claim. As for SFE - possible, since I write it (the SFE entry), just like I wrote our entry (I was working on both at the same time, in fact) and I retain the copyright to the original (SFE does not require copyright transfer; no document was signed to that effect). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:55, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: What @Piotrus: is doing conforms to WP:CITESELF, do you plan on returning to this?--Launchballer 07:19, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I can, but I would like additional input on the use of "first" here. Piotrus says this isn't controversial, yet must also be aware that the wording is discouraged on DYK because it often turns out to be wrong. Viriditas (talk) 20:52, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: To address this I proposed the ALT1, with weaker "one of the first". That is pretty safe. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:39, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why not avoid the issue altogether by using wording that avoids "first", such as early, etc? We know the problem, so why return to it? It was an early example of science fiction in the Ukrainian-language. Isn't that good enough? Also, there's probably so many more interesting things to say, why return to this? Viriditas (talk) 01:01, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 12

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Nucleariid

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Colonies of the multicellular nucleariid Fonticula alba
Colonies of the multicellular nucleariid Fonticula alba
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Improved to Good Article status by Snoteleks (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

— Snoteleks (talk) 16:50, 19 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - If we are being precise, the source does not say nucleariids are the closest relative of fungi; it says they "form the earliest branch in the holomycotan clade (fungi and closest relatives)". The source cites research that notes they are close relatives, but the source does not say they are the closest relatives.
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Some alternative hooks would be good. It would be better if it said that nucleariid amoebae are among the closest relatives of fungi. Aneirinn (talk) 23:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aneirinn: Fair enough. I changed the reference, let me know if that works for you. — Snoteleks (talk) 00:15, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After reading this new one, I believe this hook might be controversial as it seems some might consider the closest relative of fungi to be Rozellomyceta or Rozellomycota. Aneirinn (talk) 00:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, mycologists agree that Rozellomycota are fungi, same with Aphelidiomycota (see for example this ref, which is the outline of fungal classification). While it is true that these "lower fungi" were often traditionally studied by protistologists as protists, modern protistologists agree that they belong to the Fungi (see doi:10.1111/jeu.12691 for the scientific consensus of protistologists). If you still don't change your mind, I'll re-write it. — Snoteleks (talk) 01:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, the scientific consensus does seem to be that they are fungi. I still am unsure if nucleariid amoebae are the closest relatives of fungi. I have looked for it but have not been able to see where it says that in the source. Aneirinn (talk) 17:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Aneirinn: The source has a cladogram depicting the relationship, and it shows nucleariids ("kingdom Nucleariae") as the sister group of the kingdom Fungi. This relationship is also explained in the taxonomic section, where the two kingdoms are grouped within superkingdom Holomycota. There are no other kingdoms included there. — Snoteleks (talk) 21:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alena Veselá

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Veselá in 2013
Veselá in 2013
Created by Thief-River-Faller (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 2143 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 19 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I think we could drop the word "there", which seems superfluous and a little awkward, as it refers back to the academy. Munfarid1 (talk) 16:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Munfarid1 and Gerda Arendt: I don't find the current hook that interesting. Perhaps something on how she played a suite in concert on her 99th birthday? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:29, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Any hobby organist getting that old could do the same, - no idea of international playing - rare at that iron curtain time even for men - and no idea of being the one chosen to lead a music academy into a new time after it was over. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, could you emphasise those aspects more Gerda Arendt? I don't really get "chosen to lead a music academy into a new timer" from "after the Soviet period". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She was the first and so far only woman on the post but I understand "first" hooks are not wanted. We should remain factual and brief. "after the Soviet period" implies that a time of oppression ended. She got the post at the time, not some man, - what else would you want? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AirshipJungleman29 and Munfarid1: ALT1 ... that organist Alena Veselá (pictured) played a concert suite by Louis-Nicolas Clérambault on her 99th birthday? Unfortunately, I don't think Gerda's suggestion about the Soviet era aspects is feasible for a hook, at least one that meets the guidelines. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It is unfortunate that you want to say something that could be said of many people, highlighting some little playing of a harmless piece by a French composer while she was into digging up Czech forgotten works. We have many things she and only she gave the world. I tried two in the original hook. There are few Czech women organists who played internationally (if any, I don't know), and there was no other woman rector of that music university (Soviet or not, but it adds for those who know history a bit), which would highlight Janáček instead of the French person.
    ALT2: ... that at age 101, Alena Veselá (pictured) was present at the cornerstone ceremony for a new concert hall in Brno, which she had promoted for decades?
    While that is even more unique, I still prefer the original because it has a focus on playing and education, vs. age and presence. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I like ALT2. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:57, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am okay with ALT2. @Munfarid1: Thoughts? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:20, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Yes, I am okay with ALT2. Munfarid1 (talk) 09:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 13

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Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 2144 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I would personally trim the hook to just this:
ALT0a ... that in 2022, the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra performed a solidarity concert with Ukraine featuring music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers?
I think there is some potential in the original hook fact, it's just worded awkwardly and I don't think the founding date is important to the main hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think a centenary is worth mentioning. I also would like to point at how immediately after the invasion that was - perhaps you have an idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The primary hook fact is that they performed a solidarity concert following the invasion of Ukraine. Them being founded in 1925 is irrelevant to that. Again, WP:DYKTRIM applies: ...don't be afraid to trim hooks of extraneous information and clauses... In general, the shorter and punchier the hook, the more impact it has. If your desire is for the hook to run on the orchestra's centennial year, just it being approved and running is all that's needed. No need to mention the year since it's irrelevant to the hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0b ... that following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra performed a solidarity concert featuring music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers?
I think that our readers, who are expected not to know this orchestra even existed, get valuable extra information by telling them (in a short phrase) about the groups's long history, - a background giving the fact more depth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0c: ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra, founded in 1925, gave a solidarity concert with Ukraine soon after the Russian invasion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I'm happy with ALT0c on an interestingness level. Do you plan on giving this a full review?--Launchballer 11:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I was not planning on giving this a full review. However, I don't think we should go with ALT0c as written because I still feel that the year is trimmable. I am open to a variant of ALT0c that omits the year, as I really don't think that the foundation year is an essential part of the main hook fact. So basically something like: ALT0d: ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra gave a solidarity concert with Ukraine soon after the Russian invasion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the centenary adds interest, but don't feel strongly enough either way. I'll let a reviewer adjudicate.--Launchballer 12:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One issue is that it might be easy to miss the centenary point, so even if that was the reason for including the year, it might take a while for the reader to register if (if they register it at all). It's also probably less relevant to the hook fact because the concert was in 2022 and not in 2025, so the year really isn't really relevant at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even if you "miss" the centenary point, you can see that there is a long history (to be explored when you click), vs. just some short-time action. We have different readers, and some may be interested in history and perspective. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough. QPQs are done and Earwig is clean. I'm fine with ALT0c from an interest standpoint (though it might flow better if 'the' was replaced with 'a' and the commas were removed), but it's cited to AllEvents.in, which sold tickets for the event, and I think this would deserve {{independent source inline}}.--Launchballer 01:54, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I translated that. There is no doubt that it happened. - They also played in another one on 11 April. - I can't easily find things in Georgian, - help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Index, Washington

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Index, Washington
Index, Washington
Improved to Good Article status by SounderBruce (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 256 past nominations.

SounderBruce 18:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

It's an application of WP:QPQ (emphasis mine): Your QPQ review should be made before or at the time of your nomination. A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning. You did not provide a QPQ at the time of the nomination, which makes it liable to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The rules need to be revised to reflect the common practice of not having a QPQ on hand at the time of nomination. With the difficulty in finding suitable nominations to review without committing to a potentially time-wasting set of interactions, I do not think it is wise to punish active contributors who would otherwise not make the 7-day nomination window and drop out of the process. SounderBruce 07:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is a practice that DYK is actively discouraging now, especially with there being large backlogs and a need to encourage not just helping out backlogs but also weeding out unsuitable nominations. It may have been acceptable in the past to have a delay in providing a QPQ, but DYK has moved away from it now. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: Yes

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you nominating this GA for DYK. Overall, the nomination has only minor concerns. The article achieved GA status on May 13, and was nominated for DYK the same day. Length is adequate, I found no plagiarism concerns, and the article is neutral in tone. I found a few sourcing concerns. Something is neeeded which specifically supports "smallest incorporated municipality in the county". Ideally this citation goes in the "Demographics" section instead of the introduction. There is one quote in the "Early 20th century" section that needs a citation as per WP:DYKCRIT. Both proposed hooks are interesting, and mentioned in the article. ALT0 needs a citation directly after the sentence which mentions the town has a Wicca church. ALT1 is properly cited and verfied. All images in the article are freely licensed on the Commons and could be used for a hoook. The nominated image does not depict the church, monastery, or rock walls, so it would not be clear or enahance the hook. I suggest changing the nominated image. The QPQ requirement is complete. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 14:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Flibirigit: I am a little confused by your edit summary here, where you state, Citation [95] does not explicitly suppor this. "Index is the smallest municipality in Snohomish County and Western Washington" does not equal "the smallest incorporated municipality in the county". The key word "incorporated" is missing. The article does verify that Index is incorporated (see cite note 7 [6]), and as you state, the article also verifies that Index "is the smallest municipality in Snohomish County". Mz7 (talk) 23:30, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly disagree with the addition of {{citation needed}} tags based on the DYK criteria, which is described as recommendations based on subjective taste, as opposed to the more firm and better-developed GA criteria and Manual of Style. The nickname of a train, as described in the History section, is already cited in the next sentence, which is sufficient under the GACR and MOS. I will also dispute that the lead's use of "smallest incorporated municipality in the county" is uncited, as the Demographics section clearly has a newspaper source that lists all of the municipalities in Snohomish County by population with Index as the lowest entry. SounderBruce 01:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Will respond when I have for a detailed response. Pinging is not necessary. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 14:09, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources for the statement "The population was 155 at the 2020 census, making it the smallest incorporated municipality in the county", are spread out into two separate sections, which make it difficult for the reader to verify. In the "Early 20th century" section, there is a cited statement for "Index was incorporated as a fourth-class city on October 11, 1907, with several hundred residents". In the "Government and politics" section, there is a cited statement for "Index is an incorporated town with a mayor–council form of government". In the "Demographics" section, there is a cited statement for " Index is the smallest municipality in Snohomish County and Western Washington". Since the citations are in three separate places, it makes the reader jump through hoops to verify a claim. MOS:CITELEAD asks for citations for "any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged". Since the claim is not quickly verifiable, it is likely to be challenged. It seems like something is being introduced in the lede by juxtaposing facts, althought they are not explicitly together anywhere in the body. I agree that keeping references out of the lede is ideal, and using {{efn}} within the body would be a better solution to quickly and easily verify the claim of "the smallest incorporated municipality in the county". I hope you understand where I am coming from on this, and I respect that you may disagree. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 14:50, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is common practice for leads to blend together information from multiple parts of an article that each have their own citations. I have removed the word "incorporated" from the "problematic" sentence in the lead for the time being, as it really isn't necessary (as explained above, there are no unincorporated municipalities in Washington, or most states). SounderBruce 18:37, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The meaning of "Dinkies" in the "Early 20th century" is still unclear. I looked in this source, found only two mentions, and no defintion. No mention of "Dinkies" was found in this source. Searching Google for a defintion resulted in this and this; which suggest a small engine, but still not very helpful. Non-train experts should be able to read this artile about a place and be able to understand everything. I hope this clarifies why I asked for a citation for that quoted word. Flibirigit (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we're grasping at straws here. I did amend the sentence, but I don't think we need to have an explanatory note for the nickname "Dinkies". SounderBruce 02:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have asked a genuine question about what a term means, and still no defintion has been given. That is very frustrating. Flibirigit (talk) 02:14, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's just a cute, affectionate nickname for those specific historical trains; I'm not sure it has a deeper meaning than that. The fact that the trains had that nickname is well-cited to [7]—it's not clear to me why the lack of a definition for that term disqualifies this hook (which isn't even about that term) for DYK. I am pretty concerned by the level of nit-picking here; I don't think I have ever seen a DYK review go to this length before. SounderBruce has invested a lot of invaluable time doing incredible research on this article, and if I were him, I would feel pretty discouraged here. Mz7 (talk) 19:00, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova

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  • Source: "In his opening greeting, the first American pope broke from his Italian remarks to speak — not in English, but in Spanish — to his “beloved diocese of Chiclayo in Peru.”
The diocese, in a northern Peruvian city with a population of about 600,000, is celebrating the election of one of its own. In a news conference Thursday, the bishop of Chiclayo, Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova, described Pope Leo XIV as “our brother,” a former bishop of Chiclayo who spent much of his ministry in northern Peru. Farfán described the pope’s time in northern Peru — riding horseback through mountainous communities — as formative years for Leo. By mentioning Chiclayo in his first remarks, Farfán said, Leo is signaling the importance of reaching out to the margins. He is following in the steps of Pope Francis, Farfán said, supporting “a church with open doors, a church that reaches out and welcomes everyone,” with an emphasis on helping the poor." Washington Post
Created by Thriley (talk) and Davide King (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 175 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 22:11, 16 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you for the article about who succeeded the Pope in his former position, on fine sources, Spanish sources accepted AGF. I like the hook idea! I believe, though, that we can't say the Pope was formative, because at that time he wasn't yet Pope, and the articles doesn't say (but should) that these rides were formative for him. I wouldn't mind a bit more prose, because in my (rather small) display the infobox is longer than the article ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review. I changed the wording to describe him as the "future" Pope Leo XIV. Does that work? Thriley (talk) 18:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is better, but - comparing to the source more than before - I see that I misunderstood, because I thought that "his" meant the new bishop. How about first the name, then the position, to connect to the former one on the post more easily? ... and perhaps use the wording from the source that seems clearer? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0a ... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova, the Bishop of Chiclayo, said his predecessor, the future Pope Leo XIV, formed his identity while riding horseback through mountainous communities in northern Peru? Thriley (talk) 21:38, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

that is better but still unclear about who is meant by "his". Trying:

ALT0b ... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova, the Bishop of Chiclayo, said that the years that his predecessor, the future Pope Leo XIV, spent there, riding on horseback through mountainous communities in northern Peru, were a formative time?

I'd also be open to something about the Bishop, instead of the Pope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thriley, Davide King, and Gerda Arendt: What is the status of this?--Launchballer 11:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't approve the ALT0 and ALT0a because of the ambiguity, and ALT0b also because I worded it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't approve ALT0b either because it fails WP:DYKMAJOR. This needs a new hook.--Launchballer 11:51, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you perhaps reword, and I can approve? I notice that people are interested in the new Pope, and imagining him on horseback in a remote environment, as formative, seems accessible and interesting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's actually my point. The ALT0s make me want to read about the pope rather than the bishop. That Edinson said it is immaterial. I just read the article and I don't see anything that might meet WP:DYKINT, and I also notice that Catholic-hierarchy.org is coming up red on WP:UPSD and will hear what makes it reliable.--Launchballer 12:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For matters of Catholic hierarchy - who ordained whom when and where and who assisted - I found nothing of equal depth of information, and none of that kind of information seems controversial. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What about: ALT1 .... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova replaced the pope? Thriley (talk) 14:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Too April Fool's for my taste, but it may be perfect for someone else to approve such a thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have to do some digging. So far, I am not seeing anything very exciting about him outside of his various roles in the church. Thriley (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thriley, you can just say that he succeeded Pope Leo ... in the position of Bishop ..., but "replace the pope" seems to mean (at least to mean) replace as pope. Also, ALT1 is completely open as to which pope, - could be some 14th-century unknown person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So: ALT2: ... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova succeeded the future Pope Leo XIV as bishop of Chiclayo? Thriley (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT2, though would trim to ALT2a: ... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova once succeeded the future Pope Leo XIV as bishop? (the where isn't that important). Gerda is free to approve ALT2.--Launchballer 19:06, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd pipe differently:
ALT2b: ... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova succeeded the future Pope Leo XIV as Bishop of Chiclayo?

I prefer ALT2 and ALT2b, because the location is unusual and interesting. We could perhaps trim the "future". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"The future", surely? "succeeded the Pope Leo" is ungrammatical.--Launchballer 19:32, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, for me no further trimming is needed (but we know that he is Pope Leo now, and the position in question is Bishop of Chiclayo, and we could turn it around and say the FC's predecessor as BoCh is now pope. I just remember that "future Easter Oratorio" wasn't wanted, and held up a nom from Easter until the Saturday before Pentecost, in the end). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2c: ... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova's successor as bishop of Chiclayo is now pope?--Launchballer 20:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Read that again, please ;) - also: Bishop of Chiclayo is a title and therefore capital. I'm ready to approve when both are corrected. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've been at this too long today.
ALT2d: ... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova's predecessor as Bishop of Chiclayo is now pope?--Launchballer 21:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2d preferred, thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova thinks the Pope smells like sheep? Maybe a bit of a rug pull/April Fools-y... Bremps... 03:15, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Like this! Perhaps: ... that the Bishop of Chiclayo Edinson Edgardo Farfán Córdova described his predecessor Pope Leo XIV as smelling like sheep? Thriley (talk) 03:52, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Snowpack types

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Thin snowpack in Colorado
Thin snowpack in Colorado
Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 260 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 02:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Buidhe: Not a review, but the article only has three sources, all physical books, and they're all from the same publisher. Do you have any other sources to prove notability for this subject? As is, it looks like a prime target to be merged into Snowpack. Departure– (talk) 02:14, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Departure– There are actually four sources cited, and I would disagree with any merger, because this would be UNDUE in the snowpack article because the types are mostly distinguished for the purpose of avalanche forecasting in North America. (t · c) buidhe 02:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Buidhe: They're all published by Mountaineers Books, which is my point. Snowpack types, while well cited, is longer than Snowpack, and could very easily be merged there unless either one has enough specifically on them to prevent such (speaking from someone from Wikiproject Weather, where a lot of articles get merged like this). Just a heads-up that you may have an uphill battle before this ends up on the main page; I have nothing against this being promoted if there truly is a reason to keep the pages separate. Departure– (talk) 02:23, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The fact that it's more detailed than the general article is actually a strong indication that the material would be UNDUE if merged. You didn't bother to look for other sources which certainly exist, but simply assumed it's not notable. If you don't have anything against the promotion of the article why are you posting here? (t · c) buidhe 02:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An actual review needed.--Launchballer 12:17, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A newly created article that is long enough. It is neutral and the hook is interesting (although quite obvious on why it occurs). QPQs done. However, I'll voice what Departure said above: The article needs a WP:Notability tag, which would prevent it from the main page. As stated by WP:SIGCOV § Sources, "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." You mentioned above that "other sources [...] certainly exist". If such sources exist, it is the job of the nominator (or anyone else) to add them before nominating an article for any process. Although (The) Mountaineers Books is a specialized source, it is still the only publisher used and it doesn't determine the topic's notability. Please, expand the article or add more sources that establish the topic is indeed notable. (CC) Tbhotch™ 22:59, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Buidhe and Tbhotch: couple of issues. Firstly, I can't see the hook fact in the article, which seems to say that weak layers of snow cause avalanches, not "less snow", unless I misunderstand what "Faceted snow and depth hoar" mean (it would be good to have an explanation in any case). Secondly, as it stands the hook falls foul of MOS:EGG; I would not expect to end up at Snowpack types from a link of "less snow". I think some workshopping is needed, thanks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • User:AirshipJungleman29 The article says that a thinner snowpack is associated with (in fact, one of the causal factors behind) weak layers that are a necessary ingredient for dangerous avalanche potential. The actual cause of avalanche deaths is not weak layers but the combination of potential, a trigger, and people being in the way-hence the wording in the hook. Would "thinner snowpack" alleviate your concerns about mos:egg? (t · c) buidhe 17:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Cady Noland

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  • ... that the artist Cady Noland was sued by two different collectors of her work after she "disavowed" artworks that she no longer considered genuine because they were damaged or altered?
  • Source: Julia Halperin (Oct 4, 2024), “Just How Much Control Can an Artist Have Over Their Work?”, T Mag (New York Times Style Magazine): “The Swiss art dealer Marc Jancou sued Noland and Sotheby’s after the artist disavowed a work that he wanted to sell at auction. […] Noland visited Sotheby’s to view it, along with two other works destined for the block that season, and found its corners so damaged that she considered the work totaled. Sotheby’s called off the sale. [...] But it was hardly the last time that Noland would defend her art’s honor. There was a series of lawsuits over ‘Log Cabin Facade’ (1990), a life-size wooden sculpture that the artist disavowed after its previous owner allowed it to be installed outdoors for over 10 years and then replaced the rotted wood with new logs. ‘This is not an artwork,’ she said in a handwritten fax addressed to its new owner, the Ohio-based collector Scott Mueller”
  • ALT 1 (added after discussion below): ... that the artist Cady Noland has "disavowed" several artworks that she no longer considered genuine because they were damaged or altered?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: First ever DYK nom, please advise if I mis-formatted anything. Thanks!
Improved to Good Article status by 19h00s (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

19h00s (talk) 20:37, 17 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Ok, makes sense on the negativity front. I'd disagree on the image front, as detailed in the article and discussions on the talk page (long story short: she doesn't allow images of herself to be created or circulate, this image where she hides her identity has been widely discussed and is discussed in the article). Don't necessarily disagree on the breaking up of the sections, but a biography article necessarily requires a more cogent narrative structure that is extremely difficult to achieve when you spread everything out into sections that break up the chronological flow. Happy to retract this nomination or you can just fail it. 19h00s (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A nomination doesn't fail just because one hook doesn't work. You could probably get away with ALT0a: ... that Cady Noland "disavowed" some of her artworks?, though I'll let a reviewer adjudicate on that.--Launchballer 20:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Learn something new about Wiki processes every day lol, just assumed this was DOA if the hook was out of bounds as written. Just added an alt version. Thanks for the tips. 19h00s (talk) 22:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Zofor Domri Mosque

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  • Source: "this building was built in 762/1360 by Sihab ad-Din Ahmad Azfir ibn az-Zufurdimri ... The builder "az-Zufurdimri" was buried in this mosque." (Translated with Google translate) Sadeq, Moain (1991). Die mamlukische Architektur der Stadt Gaza (in German). Klaus Schwarz Verlag. p. 152. doi:10.1515/9783112400968. ISBN 978-3-11-240096-8.
Created by Richard Nevell (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Richard Nevell (talk) 07:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • QPQ done. Article is new enough (created May 17) and is (just) long enough. The hook is undeniably interesting and is inline cited to a publication by Klaus Schwarz Verlag which is WP:RS as the Islamic Studies imprint of Brill [8]. No image. Earwig returns 3.8% indicating copyvio unlikely. Looks good! Chetsford (talk) 19:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Richard Nevell, at 1511 bytes I am not comfortable promoting this; even a very gentle copyedit could send it below the limit. For instance, the sentence "In February 2025, Gaza's Ministry of Endowments reported that 79% of the mosques in the Gaza Strip had been destroyed" is at best somewhat related, at worst tangential. At 268 words, it is short enough that a lead section is not needed, which would take the prose size way under the limit. Unless it is expanded significantly, I would advise against any prep builder promoting this article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:23, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I am working on adding more information but think it is important to respond to the point about "tangential" content. The sentence you highlighted provides context for the preceding sentence which mentions damage the mosque has sustained during the conflict as it is part of the 79% to have been damaged. Richard Nevell (talk) 00:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
AirshipJungleman29, the article has been expanded. Richard Nevell (talk) 23:52, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles created/expanded on May 20

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William Salter II, James White (North Carolina politician, died c. 1789)

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Created by Aneirinn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Aneirinn (talk) 23:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I definitely prefer ALT3, as it makes readers want to find out, how she spied. The first two don't seem very interesting to me, as they mention rather mundane facts. Munfarid1 (talk) 14:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 21

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Yao Yuanjun

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  • ... that after Chinese Border Defense Police officer Yao Yuanjun was killed in action, his police dog continued to wait for him to return?
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    • Comment: Several comments:

1. Since the subject was in the Border Defense corps, which is part of the Ministry of Public Security Active Service Forces, I'm kinda unsure what to refer to him as, since MPSASF personnel were active service members. 2. I currently also have an approved nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Xiaolong (Chinese coast guardsman), may I ask if this would interfere with anything 3. The 2 photos are non free fair use, so it cannot be put on the main page.

Created by Thehistorianisaac (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Thehistorianisaac (talk) 15:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Thehistorianisaac, welcome to DYK. I have formatted the original hook and removed the repeated hooks. Regarding your questions:

1. "border police officer" may be sufficient for the hook in line with the lead of the article. 2. No, you have multiple DYK nominations running in parallel. 3. Non-free images cannot be used in DYK.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The reference is in Chinese. From Google translate, it seems that news agencies are saying as per the viral video, the dog is waiting for his master even after 10 years; rather than an independently verified fact that the dog is waiting. The article and the hook needs to be reworded. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article is currently at AfD. We will have to wait for the same to conclude, before approving the hook. Most of the references are Chinese news sites, private or state-owned (from Neutrality perspective). Redtigerxyz Talk 12:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • There isn't really a huge problem with sources, state owned media is usually considered reliable outside of controversial usages, and different language sources are also allowed; As for the hook, from my understanding, it's similar to the Hachiko story. Additionally, the AfD likely won't go very far anyways.Thehistorianisaac Talk 23:48, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thehistorianisaac and Redtigerxyz: Article's been kept, what else needs doing?--Launchballer 14:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Afd has concluded as Keep. A RM is underway, however does not impact this DYK IMO.
Assuming The Paper as reliable. "From Google translate, it seems that news agencies are saying as per the viral video, the dog is waiting for his master even after 10 years; rather than an independently verified fact that the dog is waiting. The article and the hook needs to be reworded. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify." is unaddressed. The references are just saying that there is a viral video which claims that the dog is waiting for its master.
I am okay to pass "ALT1 ... as per a viral video, the police dog of Yao Yuanjun was waiting for its master, 10 years after he was killed in action?" or similar. Redtigerxyz Talk 17:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thehistorianisaac: Please address the above.--Launchballer 16:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Redtigerxyz: sorry for the late response. The Paper is generally considered reliable by other people from wikiproject China; Nothing against you personally, but I would prefer this DYK Nomination be reviewed by someone who understands chinese, as I have seen cases where google translate messes up. The sources are explaining the story based on the video. I think essentially speaking, the alternate hook you propose is mostly the same, but makes it a bit overly complicated. Thehistorianisaac

As requested by Nominator, requesting a Chinese speaker for a second pair of eyes.Redtigerxyz Talk 17:17, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 22

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Prince Mortimer

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Created by TriMuseumGeek (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TriMuseumGeek (talk) 20:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi TriMuseumGeek, thanks for you nomination. The article was moved to main space on 22 May so is new enough and is long enough. Unfortunately the sourcing is not up to DYK standards which require a source cited inline at the end of every paragraph as a minimum. I've added the article to the hook above. We need a citation in the article for him dying at 110 in prison (we would also have to say "approximately" to match the article). There are also some grammar issues with the article and it switches between past and present tense. Let me know if you can improve this to meet the criteria and I will take another look - Dumelow (talk) 07:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TriMuseumGeek: Please address the above; I will fail this if this is not addressed in a week.--Launchballer 12:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dumelow and Launchballer. I'm still getting the hang of this, and appreciate your comments. I tried to make the corrections and additions that you asked. If it is still not meeting the guidelines, I understand. Also, if I mess up this post, I apologize. Wikicode is not my strong suit. -- TriMuseumGeek (talk) 21:05, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay

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Eveline Saalberg, Femke Bol, Cathelijn Peeters, and Lieke Klaver
Eveline Saalberg, Femke Bol, Cathelijn Peeters, and Lieke Klaver
  • Source: "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.196 3:25.66 CR" (link)
Improved to Good Article status by Editør (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

Editør (talk) 14:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Is there a way to shorten the bold link? It seems to be a distraction. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I don't think so. I believe this is how titles of the form 'Championships – Event" are typically displayed when there is only one title in the hook, see for instance the DYK hook for Talk:2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 400 metres. – Editør (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean if there's an alternate way to word the link. Right now it feels like a distraction to the reader. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I tried that once before, but then the longer bold link was used for the hook, so I've used the longer bold link in my DYK rnominations since then. - Editør (talk) 11:48, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I'm not sure if that was the right decision, because personally I'd consider the longer bold link to fall under WP:DYKTRIM. Maybe other reviewers just didn't notice the issue but here it's rather obvious. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: In my experience, the most important part about the DYK nomination is that it is factually correct and the sentence works as a hook. Surely, I want to try and phrase it as well as possible, but when it can be completely rewritten in a later stage by a single author, I don't see the point in endless tweaking when all that work can be thrown out without notice. If you see a better way of working the long article title 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay into the hook, let me know. Besides that, is there anything else holding up this nomination? – Editør (talk) 00:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe something similar to how it was originally proposed in the nomination you linked? Just link to "women's 4 × 400 metres relay" and keep 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships as a separate mention, perhaps also avoiding linking it as being redundant to the main bolded link. It's like how the linked nomination just said "women's 400 metres hurdle at the 2024 European Athletics Championships." As for your other question, I was not planning to review this nomination, the hook just stood out when I was looking at DYKN (and not in a good way). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I misunderstood. Well, thank you for noting your concern and for your suggestion. – Editør (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A full review is still needed. – Editør (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Washington D.C. Temple

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The Washington D.C. Temple
The Washington D.C. Temple
  • ... that the 'Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) was moved 60 feet to exactly align with the Capital Beltway, designed to inspire curiosity about what goes on inside?
  • Source: “After the route of the Capital Beltway was finalized and before the groundbreaking, the location of the temple was adjusted sixty feet to line up perfectly with the Capital Beltway. This small adjustment has had repercussions for missionary work as many people, due to its visibility and beauty, stop by the temple seeking information about its purpose.” …“We hope the design does attract a great deal of attention so people will investigate the Church”
  • https://rsc.byu.edu/latter-day-saints-washington-dc/washington-dc-temple-mr-smiths-church-goes-washington#_note-11
  • ALT1: ... that the Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) is the tallest and third-largest temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by square footage?
  • ALT2: ... that the 'Washington D.C. Temple property (pictured) almost became a shopping center, but Zionist Jewish owners sold it cheaper to support temple construction?
  • Source: “But in the case of the Washington D.C. Temple, the deal to purchase 57 acres of pristine woods overlooking the capital city in 1962 elicited a joyful surprise.”
  • … “planned to construct a shopping mall and condominium complex.”
  • “The (Jewish) men varied in their degree of “observance,” but they all identified deeply with their Jewish heritage, and were generous supporters of Jewish and Zionist causes.”
  • "Kanfer said, 'We’ve decided we’re going to sell it to you for $14,000 an acre. Consider that $57,000 discount our donation for building the temple.'"
  • https://www.deseret.com/faith/2022/3/20/22981180/the-washington-d-c-temple-sites-history-is-as-american-as-the-capital-city-itself-lds-temple/
  • ALT3: ... that Maryland governor Larry Hogan said the Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) is an "iconic landmark", and a "beacon of hope"?
  • ALT4: ... that the Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) was designed like the Salt Lake Temple to be recognized as a temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
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  • Comment: I've put the hooks in order of ones I think would work best for the page, along with links and citations to verify information. I'm willing to refine and tune the hooks given, and whichever hook that ends up working in the order I made should be the one that is displayed (unless there is consensus that one is more interesting than the other if multiple would work).
Improved to Good Article status by Itsetsyoufree32 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 02:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: No - ?
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: GA status achieved on May 24, and nominated for DYK on May 31. Length is adequate. Sourcing is mostly good, but I added one citation needed tag to a paragraph without a clear source. The tone overall is neutral, but some sections need work. In the first paragraph of the location section, there are consecutive sentences using "Capital Beltway" and "iconic landmark". For easier tone, these should be combined with a footnote to explain the sourcing. I suggesting using {{efn}}. The "location" section seems more about the cultural impact of "Surrender Dorothy" rather than the physical location. As such, as it seems misnamed, and out of place. In the "Design and architecture" section, this sentence makes no sense to me: "The central eastern tower is 288 feet (88 m) tall, the tallest of the church's temples at the time of its dedication". How can a tower be the tallest temple? Please clarify. In the same section, the terms "Melchizedek priesthood" and "Aaronic priesthood" should be linked to something, as a non-Mormon is unlikely to know their meaning. Hooks analysis: I cannot locate ALT0 anywhere in the article, ideally it should be in the "Construction: section. ALT1 is possibly cited in the second paragraph of the "Design and architecture" section, but the language is too dissimilar to verify. The cited passage should be very clear it is talk about the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and not just any church. ALT2 appears to be cited from multiple sentence in "The site" section, all of which will need a citation as per WP:DYKHFC. ALT3 is mentioned in the article, properly cited, and verified by the sources. ALT4 cannot be located in the article, specifically the proper noun "Salt Lake City Temple". Only 1 of 5 hooks adheres to DYK criteria at this time. All of the images used in the article have a public domain license on the Commons. The hook's image is used in the article, clear at a low resolution, and enahances the hook. QPQ is not required. Checks for plagiarism are still ongoing, and will take a while due to many quotes in the article. I have also done a lot of copyediting to the article for things that were not caught during the GA review. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 21:46, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifying my above comment: I am looking into whether WP:OVERQUOTING is a problem here. Flibirigit (talk) 21:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Flibirigit: thank you for the feedback. I addressed the issues you mentioned, and I’m grateful for the feedback you gave for the rest of the article, and for the DYK components. I don’t often use the efn tag, I’ve attempted an edit on the page, but I’m not sure if it’s displaying correctly. I also added clarity to the part you mentioned about the temple being an iconic landmark, renamed the header to be more relevant to the section, and added all the information from the DYK nomination to the body of the article in the relevant places that you mentioned. What do you think of the hooks now?
I also added the hyperlinks that anyone who is not a member of the Church would not be familiar with (As an aside, the term “Mormon” has been asked by the Church to not be used to refer to members, and has asked instead that members be called ‘Latter-day Saint(s)’, partly to avoid misunderstanding about beliefs of the Church (IE, belief in Jesus Christ)).
As far as overquoting goes, the manual of style says that overuse happens when the quotations dominate the article or section. I addressed a different section under ‘Design and architecture’ that had a large quote that was not needed. The section that overquoting may apply to the most is the “Location and surrender Dorothy” section, but the quotes are used in such a way that it's easier to simply use the quote. Similarly, paraphrasing the idea would take just as many, if not more words, and the quotes are pertinent to the section, as the manual of style suggests, so that should be resolved. Thanks again for doing the extra copyediting, you didn’t have to do that. Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 21:12, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am still working through the quotes and copyvio checks. I hope to post a final review by this weekend. Flibirigit (talk) 21:35, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for the quick reply! No rush on the review. And thank you again for helping me fix the efn issues, especially so quickly. Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cyborgs (film)

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Improved to Good Article status by Reidgreg (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 30 past nominations.

Reidgreg (talk) 15:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was promoted to GA three days before DYK nom. It's of a suitable length and generally meets quality requirements. I have some WP:PUFFERY concerns that the article uses wikivoice to refer to the soldiers (apparently both real and the film characters) as heroes and defenders more than once: should be easy enough to replace these words. Now, for the hooks, all of which could see improvement either at the article or in the hook, or both.
    Alt0 just gives a plot summary (saying it is based on a real thing is still a plot summary), which falls foul of WP:DYKFICTION. There's some other minor issues: the wikilinked Cyborgs (Donetsk airport) article in the hook doesn't mention its link text "superhuman", so could be considered an WP:EASTEREGG. And the film article doesn't actually make it explicit that the plot summary is as described in the hook, so for the hook fact to be present in the article it relies on connecting a paragraph from the context section (which mentions the real myth of the soldiers being superhuman) with parallels in the basic plot summary. I feel like there's not much to be done with this hook, unless there's a way to connect it more to the real world through more focus on the real propaganda mythmaking of "superhuman/cyborg" soldiers, but this would probably require article edits to equally explain/connect this.
    Alt1's fact is kind of in the article, but could be improved. I originally wrote a lot more here about the related content in the themes section, but we'll just focus on the sentence in development and writing that says Two-fifths of the heroes speak Russian, reflecting that many of the airport's defenders did not speak Ukrainian. Presumably this is what the hook is based on (elsewhere in the article it is properly established that there is dialogue in both languages, to confirm that). Here's my issue: the hook presents having bilingual dialogue, and showing diversity, as separate things (the former being used to do the latter is the 'interesting fact') - with this being fundamental to its 'hookiness'. I am unsure if the phrasing of the sentence in the article really makes the idea the film intended to show diversity clear (in that, it kinda presents the fact just as a group supposed to speak one language containing some people who don't, not as a group having linguistic diversity and nothing about showing personal diversity more generally): I was going to say it's fairly common sense that presenting different language speakers is showing some diversity so we can take it, but because the hook's hookiness relies on that not being common sense/obvious (and that we can't use half the hook to source the other), I don't think I can. I think a tweak in how the sentence at the article is written here would resolve it, perhaps more content from the sources presented at this nom could help. As an aside, writing it as 40% would probably be better than "two-fifths" - numerals should be used where convenient.
    Both alt0 and alt1 may have a hook issue in using the positive-connotation/heroising-language term "defenders", as mentioned above, rather than "soldiers".
    Alt2 just needs to be more specific. The battle lasted from September 2014 to January 2015, the film was released on 7 December (2017), which the article more accurately describes as the date of the fall of the airport's old terminal.
    This is long, so to summarise: alt0 is a no-go; alt1 needs one sentence in the article to have some tweaks and more content from sources to make both parts of the hook and their connection actually stated (and minor hook clean-up); alt2 needs the hook to be accurate to the article. I consider alt1 and alt2 to be interesting enough hooks, and I don't think it'll be much work to get article/hooks suitable and matching. Kingsif (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt

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Alan Plater in 1972
Alan Plater in 1972
  • Source: Plater was best known for writing television dramas including Shoulder to Shoulder (1974) and The Stars Look Down (1975); Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt was his only foray into sitcom writing. Plater's involvement has been characterised as indicative of a maverick and prolific approach to television writing.
  • ALT1: ... that Bill Maynard took inspiration from A Midsummer Night's Dream for his 1970s sitcom Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt? Source: Additionally, Maynard took inspiration from Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream, with Froggitt as Bottom and the committee at the working men's club as the mechanicals.[11][12]
  • ALT2: ... that a reviewer complained that Selwyn had two funny lines per programme? Clem Lewis of Birmingham Evening Mail felt Maynard "now hogs all the funny lines... all two of them per programme".[44]
  • ALT3: ... that Bill Maynard received letters thanking him for making Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt "the cleanest show on television"? Source: The series employed little bawdy humour; Maynard said he received letters thanking him for "the cleanest show on television".[15]
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: The image should only apply to my first hook and not the alt one. Thank you.
Improved to Good Article status by Humbledaisy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Humbledaisy (talk) 23:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@Humbledaisy: Maybe it could be modified then? ... that a reviewer complained that Selwyn had two funny lines per programme? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry all, I'm not hugely familiar with how this works. That sounds fine but I also think the name Selwyn is less familiar to a UK audience than Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt and less interesting as a title. Apologies if I'm overstepping the mark here though. Humbledaisy (talk) 18:48, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No no, it's your nomination. Suggest whatever. Whether it will be accepted by the reviewer and promoter is another matter. Bremps... 00:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added that suggestion as an alt and also added an additional alt about it being "the cleanest show in television" which I think might work well.Humbledaisy (talk) 20:59, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 27

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Thinking Machines Lab

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  • ... that artificial intelligence startup Thinking Machines Lab aims "to make AI systems more widely understood, customizable, and generally capable"?
  • Source: "Thinking Machines Lab aims to “make A.I. systems more widely understood, customizable and generally capable,” according to a blog post from the new company. It said it would freely share its technologies with outside researchers and companies, a practice known as “open source.”"
NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk), Cl3phact0 (talk), and MixedPrecision (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 176 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 17:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • This nomination just gets in the deadline for 5x expansion in the last 10 days. Some sources could be considered as less reliable, but the claims are largely uncontroversial or are the company describing itself. This does give me pause though; there are four unattributed quotes in the article, e.g., they should be either rewritten in wiki-voice or attributed to the author stating these things. The language used is decidedly non-neutral in places ("ensuring strong founding influence on the strategic direction of the lab", "hired a team of about 30 leading researchers and engineers"). I also don't find the hook used here as interesting; it's basically a mission statement. Anyone can aim to do anything. What have they done that makes the company unique other than raise a lot of money and give some investors lots of voting power? -- Reconrabbit 18:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Aranaz

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Created by Luis7M (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Luis7M (talk) 17:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Luis7M: The hook is verified, but it's on the border for me if it's "interesting". I'll mark it down as such since leading a team to 2 titles is notable. The article does not read neutrally/encyclopedic. I know that the tone of sports articles is different on Wikipedia, but this one sounds too promotion in my opinion. I think it should be rewritten to be more neutral. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 00:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PizzaKing13: I gave this a rudimentary copyedit. Which bits do you consider unduly promotional?--Launchballer 12:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay

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Women's 4×400 m relay final
Women's 4×400 m relay final
  • Source: for 2021 "1 6 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.201 3:27.15 CR" (link)
  • Source for 2023 "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.196 3:25.66 CR" (link)
  • Source for 2025 "1 NED - Netherlands 5 0.171 3:24.34 CR,WL,NR" (link)
  • ALT1 ... that the cheers were "deafening" when the Dutch team won the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships (finish pictured) before a home crowd? Source: "In de finale van de 4×400 meter voor vrouwen bleef het zondagavond lang spannend, toen Bol en de Britse slotloopster naast elkaar de laatste bocht indoken. Maar toen zette Bol, indoor de snelste vrouw op de 400 meter ooit, aan en werd het gat met elke pas groter. Op de streep was het verschil ruim een halve seconde – en het gejuich oorverdovend." [English translation: In the final of the women's 4 × 400 metres on Sunday evening, it remained exciting for a long time, when Bol went into the last bend next to the British anchor runner. But then Bol, the fastest woman in the 400 metres indoors ever, pushed on and the gap grew bigger with every stride. At the finish line, the difference was more than half a second – and the cheers deafening.] (link)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Harry Wunsch, Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Kercher
Created by Editør (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 23 past nominations.

Editør (talk) 14:39, 30 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Baynesville, Virginia

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5x expanded by Firsfron (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Firsfron of Ronchester 15:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • General eligibility:
  • New enough: Yes
  • Long enough: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Currently at AFD; most of the article concerns the post office rather than the settlement.
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - "one of the first" is not accurate to the source, which has dozens of entries before Johnson (1893).
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Will have to be on hold while the AFD is still active. The article does need major reworking to focus on the settlement, so I'm leaning a no on this one. SounderBruce 03:45, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. I'd say WH Johnson was one of the first in a list of firsts, but Your Mileage May Vary. What do you think of this alternate hook? ...that one of the first African-American postmasters in the US state of Virginia was for the Baynesville, Virginia post office?
Also, there are only three paragraphs about the post office, which is definitely not the majority of the article. :) Firsfron of Ronchester 04:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SounderBruce and Firsfron: AfD was withdrawn. What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 12:52, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Launchballer. I've suggested an alternate hook, and as you say, the AFD was withdrawn. Firsfron of Ronchester 01:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I still don't think "one of the first" is an accurate claim based on the source given. The line about him being appointed instead of a former Confederate soldier would be a more compelling (and accurate) hook. SounderBruce 01:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm totally okay with an alternate hook of your choice. Firsfron of Ronchester 14:32, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For an ALT1: ... that the an African-American man was appointed postmaster of Baynesville, Virginia, in 1893 instead of a Confederate soldier? SounderBruce 18:30, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, although I would remove one of the two articles (the/an): ... that an African-American man was appointed postmaster of Baynesville, Virginia, in 1893 instead of a Confederate soldier? Thanks! Firsfron of Ronchester 03:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Diagnostic overshadowing in autism

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  • ... that that chronic pain or depression in autistic people is sometimes misread as “just part of autism,” delaying diagnosis and care?
  • Source: “Autistic individuals... experience elevated rates of chronic physical conditions, yet symptoms are often dismissed as part of autism rather than investigated as medical concerns.”
— Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
Buie et al., 2010. Evaluation, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Gastrointestinal Disorders in Individuals With ASDs: A Consensus Report. PMID: 20048083
  • ALT1: ... that that older autistic adults may go untreated for conditions like sensory loss, pain, or memory decline because their symptoms are wrongly attributed to autism?
  • Source: “Older autistic adults... may be at heightened risk for misattributed cognitive decline (e.g., assuming communication challenges reflect autism when it may signal aging-related dementia or memory loss), untreated sensory loss... or inadequate pain management.”
— Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
Hand et al., 2020. Prevalence of physical and mental health conditions in Medicare-enrolled, autistic older adults. PMID: 31773968
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: This is my first DYK nomination. This article highlights a significant and under-recognized health equity issue in autism: how co-occurring conditions like chronic pain or memory decline may be missed due to diagnostic overshadowing.
Created by PulsarPen (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

PulsarPen (talk) 17:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @PulsarPen: Thanks for writing an important article like this! Here's the DYK review:
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ALT0 isn't fully supported by the article - chronic pain and depression aren't specifically mentioned in the relevant sentence.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Both hooks need formatting changes.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The hooks aren't formatted correctly - this guideline describes the standard style that hooks should be written in. As well as this, the first hook (ALT0) isn't supported by the article. Here's suggestions for improving your hooks, with correct formatting and the first hook's issue fixed:

To have the review passed, you'll also have to add citations to the end of a few paragraphs, as "all content that could reasonably be challenged ... must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose)." (from this guideline). Here's all the instances that need a citation:

  • Section "Physical health in autistics", paragraph starting "Such misattributions can result in..."
  • Section "Diagnostic overshadowing in reverse", paragraph starting "This form of overshadowing delays access to..."
  • The first paragraph of the "Systemic contributors" section
  • Section "Diagnostic overshadowing over the lifespan", paragraph starting "This form of lifespan overshadowing reflects..."

And one more minor thing: this doesn't affect whether or not the review passes, but usually when providing sources in DYK nominations, quotes are given from the citations themselves in order to make it easier for the reviewer to verify that the hooks are sourced.

Once the citation issues have been fixed, I'll be happy to pass this! I personally think that the first hook is a little more interesting than the second. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 23:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Irene D. Paden

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 84 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 14:51, 2 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@TSventon: Ah, the one rule I keep forgetting like a million times. I've fixed the hooks accordingly. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:53, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How Do You Do (Shakira song)

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  • ... that Shakira's song "How Do You Do" was banned across the Middle East due to its lyrics addressing God in a way considered blasphemous?
  • Reviewed:
Created by 1arch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

1arch (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough and long enough, but there's a bit of a sourcing/verification issue: the article from 2005 doesn't actually say the *song* was banned, or that there was a formal ban extending across the entire Middle East. What it describes is the *entire album* being withheld from Middle Eastern markets by its Muslim-owned distributor, who objected to the song's lyrics. Plus, our article on the album mentions that it *was* released in the Middle East (though with modified cover art), so the situation seems to be a bit more complex.
A more accurate hook could be:
But first, we'll need to make sure we understand what exactly was banned (the song as the DYK currently says, or the album, per the source), by whom, and how it eventually returned to the market. Mariamnei (talk) 10:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I looked into it and found another source from a book that clarifies that the album was released in some countries in the Middle East, but even then without the song. So, I was thinking this would do:
    • ALT1: ... that Shakira's Oral Fixation, Vol. 2 was only released in a few Middle Eastern countries, and even then, without the song "How Do You Do", which was deemed blasphemous? 1arch (talk) 15:45, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @1arch: Great! Could you please share the original quote from the book source so I can verify the content? Once you've added the quote here, and the source below the above alternative (as you did with the first option), we should be good to go. Mariamnei (talk) 09:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taraxacum akteum

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  • ... that Taraxacum akteum was first identified in some parts of Britain in 2016, more than 40 years after it was described from Dutch coastal meadows?
Created by MallardTV (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

MallardTV Talk to me! 13:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good. Nice work. However, I can't seem to find the hook's statement in the provided source – could you provide a quote from the source verifying it @MallardTV:? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Sorry about that! Here's the second source. (I forgot to add it.) https://natuurtijdschriften.nl/pub/540026/ABN1974023004006.pdf pages 439–459. MallardTV Talk to me! 23:29, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So that verifies the Dutch part. As for the first sighting in England, in the provided source I only see "Taraxacum akteum Soest & Zevenb. – a dandelion. VC4, Morchard Bishop, 2016, LT det. AJR. First county record" – is there something in that that I'm missing? Would "first county record" mean the first time found in Britain? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Hence "some" parts of england. MallardTV Talk to me! 03:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The distribution map is rather misleading for the same reason. Whole countries are highlighted instead of specific parts of them. Surtsicna (talk) 07:23, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Operators and Things

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  • ... that the Nashville Banner said Operators and Things​​​ ​​​​​​​would both interest laymen and impress professionals due to its thorough examination of the unconscious self? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/nashville-banner/172319537/
    • ALT1: ... that a book described as "an absorbing account of life in the dream world of a schizophrenic" was written by an anonymous author? Source: "Operators and Things: The Inner Life of a Schizophrenic". Publishers Weekly. Vol. 207, no. 5. F. Leypoldt. February 3, 1975. p. 44.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Hillbilly Thomists
    • Comment: Tried my best to come up with some real interesting hooks for article 7 mil, would love other suggestions from the current text or if more is added in the future. ALT1 I was a bit unsure about the wording of anonymous vs pseudonymous, but per discussion at Talk:Operators and Things#Replace anonymous with pseudonymous? landed on this. ALT1 is also linked to an offline source, I've asked the author on their talkpage for a scan or equivalent of the source, given the shifting winds I see in regards to AGF sources.
Created by Therapyisgood (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

PixDeVl (T | C | G) 21:59, 31 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @PixDeVl: You can just google the quote from Publishers Weekly and look on Google Books and find it that way. Also it's on the back of the 2011 version, I believe, or at the very least it's on the Amazon.com page for the 2011 publishing. Therapyisgood (talk) 01:08, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Therapyisgood: found and verified, thank you! Never thought to just search it funny enough, I queried the whole citation and even combed the Internet Archives a bit for the issue. Cheers! --PixDeVl (T | C | G)
  • How about something like ALT2 '...that the author of the 1958 autobiographical account (memoir?) Operators and Things, describing a schizophrenic author's experiences with "operators", has never been identified?' or even simply ALT3 '...that the anonymous 1958 autobiographical account Operators and Things describes a woman's onset and recovery from schizophrenia, aided by "operators"?'
I like this "has never been identified" version, that's a proper hook for a "did you know". Mateussf (talk) 11:16, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mateussf: I like that former hook, I'd add that as an ALT2, but it may be a little bit long(WP:DYKTRIM). Not super sure on memoir vs account. --PixDeVl (T | C | G) 15:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PixDeVl: the problem is she was identified, though, for the 1976 publication ("According to the 2011 version, the last time anyone had heard from O'Brien was in 1976, when she wrote an additional chapter for a new version of the book. Her author's blurb for the 1976 publication stated she was "fully recovered" and living outside of Los Angeles."). Therapyisgood (talk) 01:34, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added ALT names, both ideas are within an acceptable wordcount. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How about ALT4... that the identity of "Barbara O'Brien", the author of Operators and Things, a 1958 autobiographical account of schizophrenia, has not been publicly revealed?

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Nancy Broadfield Parkinson, George Mearns Savery, Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones

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Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones
Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones
  • Source: Hewlett, Dorothy (1981). Harrogate College 1893-1973. North Yorkshire, England: Harrogate College. ISBN 9780950742700.
Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk). Number of QPQs required: 6. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 114 past nominations.

Storye book (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I understand what you're going for with the hook, but is this really interesting to a broad audience? If a reader is unfamiliar with any of the names provided, the hook doesn't really sound all that interesting, it just said that these names were all involved in a particular school. My suggestion would be to propose individual hooks about each person, rather than going with a multi-hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:21, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I disagree; the three articles are best understood if read together. Parkinson, an orphaned female, could never have achieved what she did in that era, without that school, and that school would never have existed as a pioneering, ground-breaking school without those two educational pioneers, Savery and Jones. There is no space in a DYK hook to explain that, and on WP we are not allowed to explain things. Our readers have to work it out. For that, they need to read all three articles. So - sorry, we need this to be a triple. I have added ALT2 and ALT3, which may answer your above concern somewhat. Storye book (talk) 10:01, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that helps much, even with the additional context. I'm very sorry, but I have struck the hooks for now. I'd like to see first some individual hook proposals first and see if it is at least feasible for them to stand alone. We can revisit the idea for a triple hook if none of them have feasible individual hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:44, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the three articles already stand alone as articles. But what they stand for, hookwise, as a set of three is more important. For a woman to attain that position, and achieve that national recognition, requires a level and quality of education which in those days in the UK was not easily available, even for men. I have unstruck ALTs 2 and 3, because I believe we need a second opinion on this. New reviewers: please check out the above discussion. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:00, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As I said above, I am open to the possibility of a triple hook. I was not closing the door on it entirely. I just said that you needed to at least try to propose first individual hooks for the three. We could then discuss those individual hooks and see if any of them met the interest guidelines. If those hooks would not work out, then the triple hook idea could be revisited. As it stands, you did not even try to propose individual hooks: you were already closed to the idea.
Also, in response to your comment, "For a woman to attain that position, and achieve that national recognition, requires a level and quality of education which in those days in the UK was not easily available, even for men," that arguably counts as specialist information. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:04, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, reading through the articles right now, if your point is to show that Parkinson was an exceptional woman who deserves recognition, then that is arguably even more of an argument in favor of an individual hook at least for her, because a triple hook would be like tying her to other notable people instead of allowing her to stand on her own. I have gone through all three articles and all three were accomplished people in their own right: I do not think a triple hook that is primarily about Parkinson would give justice to Savery or Jones. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you really want, I can offer a compromise: given how Savery and Jones worked together and both of their articles devote large portions to their collaboration, I am open to a double hook with Savery and Jones, although I would also suggest at least trying to suggest individual hooks for either as possible options. However, I would still recommend that Parkinson have a separate individual hook. As it stands, her article does not even mention Savery, only Jones, and even then, only in passing, and I'm not really a fan of the idea of a hook about her being primarily about her links to others. The more about I think this, while I'm still open to the idea of a triple hook, the more I think it is not the best option and should be more-or-less a last resort. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have asked for a second opinion, and you have written above, twice, that you are open to a triple hook. That request of mine would include asking the new reviewer (or possibly reviewers, since it's 3 articles) to review the articles properly, and to consider ALT3, so I have unstruck it. Remember that you have only commented on the hook(s), and you have not actually reviewed the articles, so we still need a reviewer. Please don't edit-war over hook-striking. The above hooks do not break WP rules; they do not lie or mislead. Your striking is only about your own opinion.
As for specialist information - how many first-world countries can you think of, where in the World War II era, women could - as easily as men - hold top government civil service positions, and get national awards for it? I think that most citizens of first-world countries would not expect to see women in top government posts during World War II. Think of all the photos you have seen of groups of important top government people signing documents at that time. Do you remember seeing women frequently among all the male suits and uniforms? I am not saying that there were no women in those formal photographs. I am saying that women officials in those photographs were uncommon. So no, that is not specialist information. Storye book (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not understand why you are so close-minded to the idea of individual hooks about the three people, especially when I gave good reasons to move away from the triple hook. I mean, the current triple hook makes it seem like we're only really talking about Parkinson rather than also Savery and Jones: do you really want a hook that downplays Savery and Jones? In fact, the hook arguably downplays all three subjects: it reduces Parkinson to just someone who went to a school, and it reduces Savery and Jones to being a school founder. If we went with individual hooks, we could at least describe and promote their individual achievements. Yes, there's context behind Parkinson going to that school, but is that context going to be obvious in the hook? No, and that is the kind of hook that the guidelines explicitly discourage: hooks that are reliant on specialist information, or at least hooks that require explanations to be understandable.
As for the unstriking, you were the one who unstruck the hooks after I struck them, even though I gave my reasons as to why they were struck. If anything, you are acting in bad faith if you are accusing me of edit-warring, when this could have been avoided if you simply stated disagreement with the striking without actually unstriking the hooks yourself. You are free to disagree with a reviewer (not necessarily me), but accusing them of edit-warring, when arguably you should not have unstruck the hooks in the first place, is arguably showing bad faith. My suggestion remains to move away from that angle for now, and to revisit it if other options fall through. For what it is worth, I asked on Discord for opinions regarding ALT3 (in a neutral manner), and the responses said that ALT3 was not interesting to a broad audience. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the interest of this moving forward, I will be reviewing the three articles:
  • Nancy Broadfield Parkinson: checkY the article was moved to mainspace on May 30, so it is new enough. It is long enough, adequately sourced. Two QPQs have been done and they were proper, so they are accepted. I did not detect any close paraphrasing.
  • Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones: checkY also moved to mainspace on May 30, and meets the length, sourcing, and paraphrasing requirements. Two QPQs have been provided for it.
  • George Mearns Savery: checkY moved to mainspace on the same date, I did not find close paraphrasing, DYK requirements are met, two QPQs done.
I have gone through all three articles, and I'm actually surprised that you did not even propose what is arguably the most interesting aspect about Parkinson. I'll be proposing it as the individual hook for her:
Nancy Broadfield Parkinson
That's actually a standout moment of her life, far more than just simply talking about her going to a school. I would highly suggest focusing on this aspect of her as it is a major accomplishment, and also an interesting aspect of her life that is not reliant on having a background in the history of British education. My only concern about this aspect is that I could not find any UNESCO sites that mention Parkinson, but maybe there are offline sources about it.
George Mearns Savery
As for Jones and Savery, I've proposed individual hooks for both of them, as well as a double hook:
Let me know what you think about these hooks so that we can ask for a new reviewer to review them (I cannot review these hooks myself). In the interest of compromise, I am even unstriking ALT3 to allow for that reviewer to also consider it in addition to the individual hooks and the double hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:19, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for all your hard work on this one. OK, I'll accept Parkinson as a single, and Savery and Jones as a double nom. I have added the quotation from the source for your ALT-NBP Parkinson hook. The British Council, being a government department, is a sufficiently authoritative source for the hook, and is online and verifiable.
I accept your hooks, with the exception of the following: I have adjusted your ALT-G/E hook (i.e. replaced "founding" with "development"), because Jones was not around when the school was founded, but they collaborated in a very intense manner for a short while over the development of the school (then Savery became ill and died, so that Jones carried on the development, but nevertheless, the collaboration was important, and is mentioned in a number of sources in both articles.). In the same hook, I have replaced "women's" with "girls'", because in that era girls did not come of age (I be legally considered women) until they were 21 years old. The school taught girls aged roughly 5-18 years. Storye book (talk) 09:09, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox ID image from the Parkinson article could be used with her new hook if required. I have added it to her hook above.. I do believe, though, that the above Jones image should be used in the double nom, because it is so eye-catching and beautiful. (And anyway, there does appear to be a reluctance to use ID pics of old, bearded white men on DYK). Storye book (talk) 09:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now, I have no idea how to re-jig this nom into a single and double. BlueMoonset can you fix that? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 09:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]
I mean that I could not find a third-party source other than the British Council that confirmed the UNESCO fact, since ideally I would have wanted a third-party source for a rather exceptional claim, or even an actual UNESCO source. Since Parkinson was associated with the British Council, they are not exactly an independent source. Anyway, since you've agreed to the new hook proposals, I'm asking for a new reviewer to review all the options proposed so far (including ALT3 and my proposals). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree that such a formal and established British government source as the British Council should need a confirmatory citation. Are you disrespecting the government of my country? However I have added to Parkinson's article a photo of Parkinson as a UNESCO delegate, and added a sentence about it with a newspaper citation. Storye book (talk) 11:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No need to be offended. It's just that some editors at DYK tend to be skeptical of non-independent or primary sources, so it's mostly for their benefit. I am personally okay with the source as I'm not the kind of editor who's particular about them, but I know that some editors tend to challenge such sources. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clermont (novel)

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  • ... that the novel Clermont by Regina Maria Roche was critiqued as an imitation of Anne Radcliffe's work, later gaining positive attention through Jane Austen's mention of it in Northanger Abbey?
  • Source: Morin, Christina (2018), "Gothic materialities: Regina Maria Roche, the Minerva Press, and the bibliographic spread of Irish gothic fiction", The gothic novel in Ireland, c. 1760–1829, Manchester University Press, pp. 170, 154–195, doi:10.2307/j.ctv3zp024.9, ISBN 978-0-7190-9917-5, JSTOR j.ctv3zp024.9, retrieved 10 May 2025
  • Reviewed:
5x expanded by JV MoE (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

JV MoE (talk) 14:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The expansion is new enough and long enough, but I have several concerns. There are significant portions that lack citations after them, including commentary and subjective appraisals. Some of that content seems consistent with LLM/AI writing—not necessarily a bad thing, but an observation. I'd appreciate a page number on the specific page that the hook is drawn from. Additionally, please italicize the name of the Austen novel in the hook. ~ Pbritti (talk) 12:41, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Pbritti (I hope I’m responding correctly!) - thank you for reviewing the DYK nomination and for your feedback, much appreciated. I have italicized as per your request. Can I please double check if you were providing feedback for the DYK nomination specifically or for the article(s) mentioned? I did want to clarify that no AI was utilised to generate the nomination or the articles. I’ve also noted the source of the information in the nomination (page 170), but I can appreciate that literary criticism can present very subjectively. I can confirm though that the information on the article and the DYK nomination are extracted from scholarly articles and not from personal opinion. I’m happy to retract the nomination and find another more appropriate one, but clarification on the above would help me with making necessary improvements. Many thanks. ~JV MoE

Fire-eye

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White-backed fire-eye antbird
White-backed fire-eye antbird
  • ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) calls instead of songs are used to tell the species apart?
  • Source: In a 2017 study, researchers found that "when [they] examined Pyriglena

vocalizations in this context, the outcomes revealed substantial diversity in their calls, rather than their songs [thus it] underscores the need to consider all vocalizations in taxonomic studies."

https://doi.org/10.11646%2Fzootaxa.4291.2.3
    • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Tkronos1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Tkronos1 (talk) 13:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@Jaireeodell: Hooks must not contain parentheses outside of (pictured) per WP:DYK200.--Launchballer 16:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Thanks! I didn't know that. Would this work? ALT1 ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) use calls, not songs, to identify different antbird species? Jaireeodell (talk) 21:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, though I recommend ALT1a: ... that fire-eye antbirds (pictured) use calls to identify different antbird species rather than songs?. It's the same as ALT0 with no new information, so you could approve it yourself.--Launchballer 13:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mawa Sesay

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Created by History6042 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

History6042😊 (Contact me) 17:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comments by Tbhotch

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - See below
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A newly-created article that is long enough. QPQ done. No copyvio issues. Some sources are behind paywalls, so I AGF. However, the hook fails WP:RSPINSTAGRAM, which is flagged as "the source should normally not be used, and it should never be used for information about a living person." Please, use a different source if exist or propose an alternative hook. (CC) Tbhotch™ 23:21, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tbhotch:, is this a good enough hook; ALT1 ... that after being injured, Mawa Sesay said "I believe that I will come back stronger," and helped get her team to the Champion's League for the first time soon after she returned?
@Tbhotch: [12]


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Horace Niall

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  • ... that Horace Niall was a speaker of the parliament – and an executioner?
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 372 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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June 2025 Gaza Freedom Flotilla

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Created by DERPALERT (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 301 past nominations.

Launchballer 01:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks, Launchballer. Here's one more:

  • ALT1: ... that in June 2025 Israeli forces intercepted European humanitarians in international waters and forcibly took them to Israel?

Surtsicna (talk) 08:22, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With apologies for nitpicking, 'International waters' (although informally used a lot in this context) is not strictly applicable- closest more accurate term without getting too verbose would be 'non-territorial waters'.Yadsalohcin (talk) 10:42, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shi Bangfan

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  • ... that Shi Bangfan was the first Chinese pilot to shoot down a Japanese plane?
Created by Toadboy123 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 55 past nominations.

Toadboy123 (talk) 14:34, 7 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Alphonso Lisk-Carew

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"Bundoo Girls, Sierra Leone", 1911
"Bundoo Girls, Sierra Leone", 1911
  • ... that in 1920, an observer said: "There is probably no establishment in Freetown that is visited by more passengers from the steamers than that of Messrs. Lisk-Carew Bros."?
  • Source: In 1920, an observer said: "There is probably no establishment in Freetown... See ref. 3: Geary, Christraud M. (2018). Postcards from Africa: Photographers of the Colonial Era: Selections from the Leonard A. Lauder Postcard Archive. Boston: MFA Publications. ISBN 978-0-87846-855-3, p. 21.
5x expanded by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 34 past nominations.

Munfarid1 (talk) 17:21, 5 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Shagidi

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  • ... that "Shagidi" was inspired by the Filipino children's game Shagidi Shapopo?
Created by Royiswariii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

ROY is WAR Talk! 16:26, 5 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

How does this is not passed in WP:DYKINT? First of all, it is a traditional Filipino dance relay. Is this WP:IDONTLIKEIT? ROY is WAR Talk! 10:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic. Basically, that means the hook has to be interesting or at least eye-catching even to someone who is not necessarily familiar with the names or information mentioned in the hook. For one, the hook doesn't even make it clear that the subject is a song. The idea you should have when writing a hook is this: if a reader is not a fan of BINI and/or is not from the Philippines, could they understand the hook and appreciate it? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:21, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Asking Launchballer if they could propose additional hook suggestions. In the meantime, I wonder if a revised version of ALT0 would solve the interest concerns:
ALT0a ... that the name of the Filipino girl group Bini's song "Shagidi" was inspired by a children's game?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:24, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, now that I think about it, I think ALT1 could work as a hook if it is rephrased as well, perhaps something like:
ALT1a ... that the cover artwork for the Filipino girl group Bini's song "Shagidi" was created by one of its members?
The main concern I had was the lack of context for international readers who may not know who Bini is, so solving that should address the interest concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:26, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Eocarcharia

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  • ... that despite its name being in reference to the dinosaur family Carcharodontosauridae, Eocarcharia may actually be a member of the family Spinosauridae?
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5x expanded by Augustios Paleo (talk) and SlvrHwk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

AFH (talk) 18:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Attempt (German penal code)

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  • Source: NK-StGB/Engländer, 6. Aufl. 2023, StGB § 23 Rn. 10, 11 ("Über die fakultative Strafmilderung nach Abs. 2 hinausgehend sieht Abs. 3 für den grob unverständigen Versuch die Möglichkeit vor, die Strafe gem. § 49 Abs. 2 nach freiem Ermessen zu mildern oder ganz v. Strafe abzusehen. Dem Vorschlag des AE, den grob unverständigen Versuch stets straffrei zu stellen, ist der Gesetzgeber nicht gefolgt. Unter Verweis auf ein – v. BGH in einer späteren Entsch. freilich gerade nicht anerkanntes – Bsp. (→Rn. 13) argumentiert er, es gebe auch in diesem Bereich strafbedürftige Fälle, so dass es einer „flexiblen Lösung“ bedürfe.34 Das lässt sich zwar kriminalpolitisch kritisieren,35 ist aber de lege lata als gesetzgeberische Entscheidung hinzunehmen. In der Entscheidungspraxis der Gerichte ist die Regelung nahezu bedeutungslos. Nach § 153b StPO kann die StA einschlägige Fälle mit Zustimmung des zuständigen Gerichts einstellen. Beim grob unverständigen Versuch handelt es sich um einen Unterfall des untauglichen Versuchs (→§ 22 Rn. 98 f.). Das ergibt sich schon aus der Formulierung „dass der Versuch … überhaupt nicht zur Vollendung führen konnte“. Auch hier ist daher die Abgrenzung zum Wahndelikt zu beachten (→§ 22 Rn. 100 ff.). Fraglich ist, ob bereits das modale Adverb „überhaupt“ den Anwendungsbereich des Abs. 3 auf bestimmte Fälle des untauglichen Versuchs begrenzt.36 Bemühungen zwischen unterschiedlichen Graden der Untauglichkeit zu differenzieren – etwa zwischen einem absolut und einem bloß relativ untauglichen Versuch – haben sich freilich als nicht erfolgreich erwiesen.37 Auch der gesetzgeberische Begründungsgedanke, als grob unverständig sollten nur solche Versuche in Betracht kommen, „in denen weder eine konkrete noch eine abstrakte Gefährdung“38 bestehe, bietet kein brauchbares Abgrenzungskriterium, da dies für den untauglichen Versuch generell zutrifft.39 Das maßgebliche Unterscheidungskriterium ist daher der grobe Unverstand.40 Keine Zustimmung verdient der Vorschlag, auf den mit Eventualvorsatz begangenen Versuch § 23 Abs. 3 analog anzuwenden.41 Weder ist die Interessenlage vergleichbar noch besteht eine planwidrige Regelungslücke.42 Selbiges gilt auch für die vorgeschlagene analoge Anwendung auf Delikte mit vorgelagerter Vollendung, so etwa bei der Urkundenfälschung, wenn die hergestellte unechte Urkunde nur aus einer grob unverständigen Sicht zur Täuschung im Rechtsverkehr geeignet ist.")
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Created by FortunateSons (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

FortunateSons (talk) 09:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Harris Schurmeier

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Created by Artem.G (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

Artem.G (talk) 13:47, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The source does not refer to them as "lucky peanuts". 05:52, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Michelle Pfeiffer (Ethel Cain song)

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Improved to Good Article status by Locust member (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 299 past nominations.

Launchballer 00:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

L. Whitney Watkins

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5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 99 past nominations.

Jon698 (talk) 18:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

SR Combat Organization

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  • Source: Geifman, Anna (1993). Thou Shalt Kill: Revolutionary Terrorism in Russia, 1894–1917. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press. p. 233. ISBN 0-691-08778-4.
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5x expanded by Goszei (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

— Goszei (talk) 21:36, 6 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • will review this one. first comments - I'd suggest to rename the article to the Combat organization of the Socialist Revolutionary Party, not many English-speaking people will know what is SR in the name (and even the Russian article uses fullname, not just "боевая организация эсэров"). second note - the article currently uses only one source which is a bit strange. And the last paragraph of "Final years and legacy" lacks references. Will return with full review later today. Artem.G (talk) 13:56, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I learned a lot from the article :) Sourcing with just a single book is the main issue, though it is by a major historian so I think it's ok for a dyk.
One issue in the text that I've found is this An almost desperate Savinkov then attempted to assassinate Vladimir von der Launits, governor of St. Petersburg, but this also proved impossible due to constant police surveillance, though both the Russian article and quick googling told me that he was assassinated by the group. One other, minor issue, is usage of both SR and PSR that I found a bit confusing. I'll check other dyk criteria a bit later (when I'll have access to my laptop).
I also noticed that you mainly used portraits to illustrate the article, though there are a lot of other images related to the organization on commons that can be used here (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). I'll leave it for your consideration. Artem.G (talk) 19:44, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article might run into MOS:TERRORIST. Bremps... 23:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles created/expanded on June 7

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Aquilegia pancicii

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Created by Pbritti (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

Pbritti (talk) 02:36, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Starting Review--Kevmin § 13:54, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Article long enough and new enough, though a bit sparse on some details (there is preferred habitat detail in Radulović et al), and the chemoanalysis should likely be more than just one short sentence. I worry that hte hook is too close to "boring" for the too boring editors to allow, as it boils down to "flower attracts bees with smell". Are there other possible hooks you can provide, such as the preference for north facing mountain slopes, the preferance for calcicole chasmophyte conditions, the essentail oil being mostly Fatty acids and Carotenoids, etc --Kevmin § 14:24, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Kevmin: I think I can rewrite it to be a little more compelling. Something has come up today in the real world that's commanding my attention, but please anticipate my QPQ and a revised hook tomorrow UTC. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kevmin and Pbritti, the same fact might be hookier if we just reword it a bit: ALT1: ... that a Serbian columbine species might be luring some animals with mixtures of molecular compounds? Surtsicna (talk) 07:35, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: That's a clever ALT—I like it! QPQ coming momentarily. ~ Pbritti (talk) 12:25, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we may be able to get alt1 through, I like it. The article is new enough and long enough, well cited to reliable sources. The wording is neutral and there do not appear to be any policy issues. There are no identified close paraphrasing or copyvio issues. Just waiting on QPQ now.--Kevmin § 16:23, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kamla Jaan

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  • Sources:
  1. Ambreesh Mishra (July 23, 2007). "First Eunuch Mayor of India – Kamala Jaan". India Today. Archived from the original on 2019-11-02. Retrieved 2019-11-02.
  2. Haviland, Charles (2002-08-29). "India's first eunuch mayor unseated". BBC. Retrieved 2025-03-14.
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Moved to mainspace by Toadspike (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Luke1437 (talk) 18:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I strongly recommend shortening this to:
  • ALT3: ... that Kamla Jaan became India's first eunuch mayor in 2000?
"Eunuch" can be swapped for "third gender" or "trans"; sources generally say they are interchangeable. We cannot say that she was elected in 2000. The sources are ambiguous, but from what I can tell she was probably elected in 1999 and took office in January 2000. Finally, I oppose ALT1 for being boring and I have made some grammatical fixed to ALT2, though the "quota" part still doesn't read smoothly. Toadspike [Talk] 18:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion this "first" hook has strong sourcing to back it up, but if a non-"first" hook is needed, I suggest a condensed version of ALT1:
  • ALT4: ... that Kamla Jaan, a hijra and mayor of Katni, was removed from office because the electoral rolls listed her as male?
Source: [13]. ALT1's wording makes it hard to understand and thus not as interesting. Toadspike [Talk] 19:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dungka!

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A crab
A crab
  • ... that a scene of a man eating a crab (example pictured) in the music video for SB19's song, "Dungka!", was used as a symbol for crab mentality among people?
  • Source: "He plays the MV's antagonist as the representation of crab mentality (hence his meals of crabs at the start of the video)." ([14]); "He is first seen feasting on crabs, representing the crab mentality present among Filipinos. ([15]); "There was also a particular scene wherein he was eating crabs that can be a symbolism of Filipinos having crab mentality wherein they pull others down." ([16])
Converted from a redirect by Relayed (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

– Relayed (t • c) 13:52, 8 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Selim Al Deen Muktamanch

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Muktamanch from Right entrance
Muktamanch from Right entrance
5x expanded by FaysaLBinDaruL (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 21:05, 7 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Peace discourse in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict

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  • ... that the goal of "peace" may mean different things to Israelis and Palestinians?
  • Source: Sambaraju & McVittie 2018, p. 116: “There remains the question of what is to be, or indeed can be, done about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. One useful starting point would be to reconsider the use of talk of peace and violence in this context. If the term ‘peace’ is indeed nothing more than ‘an attractive but empty box’ (Gavriely-Nuri, 2010, p. 566), into which anyone can place and argue for what is to count as peace, then it can achieve little to retain this as the most desirable description of an outcome. Equally, where it becomes bound up with expectations (or lack of expectations) of international actors, then ‘peace’ potentially does little more than add layers of misunderstanding to existing complexities and to obscure what is at issue.”
Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 82 past nominations.

Onceinawhile (talk) 19:17, 7 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

OK, how about:
Onceinawhile (talk) 22:38, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think those are better, with 1 being more factual and 2 being more interesting in my opinion. I’ll leave the full review to someone more experienced and less involved, but feel free to ping me if there is no timely review available. FortunateSons (talk) 19:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 8

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Robert L. Rankin

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Created by ThaesOfereode (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 21 past nominations.

ThaesOfereode (talk) 20:47, 9 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on June 9

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European Australian Movement

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Moved to mainspace by TarnishedPath (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

TarnishedPathtalk 09:50, 9 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - n
  • Other problems: No - A mere mission statement is not interesting. Even so, this claim seems rather ordinary for a Neo-Nazi organization. I believe more content should be added to this article so that more interesting information can be found.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I would recommend you first build up information about the organization's history, its beliefs, and its activities before adding claims to the infobox. Also, the image of the flag is most likely copyrighted in Australia, so it should be hosted locally on enwiki. ―Howard • 🌽33 13:59, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Howardcorn33 I've removed the flag and the predecessors stuff from the infobox. Does that resolve most of the points above aside from the subjective opinion that the hook is not interesting?TarnishedPathtalk 14:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TarnishedPath: "Anti-LGBT," "Antisemitism," "Ecofascism" should be discussed in the article body itself. The year of formation is also uncited. ―Howard • 🌽33 14:38, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Howardcorn33 fixed. Per the interesting part, I'd think that it is only uninteresting if you know who they are, which can be said of almost every hook. If there anything else which is uncited? TarnishedPathtalk 16:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TarnishedPath: Infobox and citations are OK. I suppose I can only speak for myself when saying if something is interesting, but the provided hook only describes a stated aim of a Western far-right organization which may well apply to dozens of far-right organizations around the world. I don't see anything exceptional about it. (Just to be clear, this is my 3rd time reviewing a DYK, so I'm not the most experienced to talk about this. If you disagree, then I would be OK with a second opinion.) ―Howard • 🌽33 16:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Howardcorn33, no worries, I'll take you up on your suggestion and request a second opinion. TarnishedPathtalk 16:34, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TarnishedPathtalk 04:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TarnishedPathtalk 07:19, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 10

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Baena (surname)

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  • ... that , outside of Spain, the Spanish surname Baena is often associated with people of Sephardi Jewish descent?
Converted from a redirect by Kingsif (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 138 past nominations.

Kingsif (talk) 04:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Liquid Glass

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  • ... that Liquid Glass was criticised for being too transparent ?
Created by Sohom Datta (talk), TempoaryAcc (talk), Limmidy (talk), and Blubits (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Sohom (talk) 04:06, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Mary Kahil

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  • Source: Keryell, Jacques (2010). Mary Kahîl: une grande dame d'Égypte: 1889-1979. Paris: Geuthner. p. 12: "En 1920, elle rentre au Caire et participe activement à la fondation du Mouvement de l'Union féministe égyptienne avec Houda Chaaraoui. Elle travaille comme secrétaire et animatrice dans l'œuvre musulmane de bienfaisance 'Mohammed Ali'."
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  • Comment: No further comment—I think I have everything lined up and there shouldn't be any hiccups with sourcing.
Created by M.A.Spinn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

M.A.Spinn (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Fletcher Ransom

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Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 37 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Mighty Doom

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  • ... that Mighty Doom featured a cartoonish aesthetic that contrasted with the dark, gritty tone of the mainline Doom series?
  • ALT1: ... that the story of Mighty Doom revolved around demons who took the protagonist's pet rabbit, Daisy? Source: [2]
  • ALT2: ... that in the mobile game Mighty Doom, Doomguy appeared as Mini Slayer, a toy-like version of himself? Source: [3]
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: My second DYK. I probably need to clean this up a bit after submitting, not really good at dealing with the template.
Improved to Good Article status by Vestigium Leonis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Vestigium Leonis (talk) 21:16, 10 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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National Geographic Society Headquarters

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Stone Building of the National Geographic Society Headquarters
Stone Building of the National Geographic Society Headquarters
On eventual size: "In normal, nonpandemic times, Society staff work at the National Geographic headquarters, which sits on a nearly 900,000-square-foot campus only a few blocks north of the White House..." Fairbanks, Amanda M. (Winter 2022). "National Geographic Reinvents Itself". Stanford Social Innovation Review. Vol 20. no. 1. pp 16-23 (no link, but available through TWL)
  • Source: On original size: "Although modest in size (some 7,659 square feet), the building has a strong presence along 16th Street." Adams, Anne H.; Mellon, Jonathan (January 2023). "National Geographic Society Headquarters Nomination Form". National Park Service. (Form linked at the bottom of this page)
On eventual size: "In normal, nonpandemic times, Society staff work at the National Geographic headquarters, which sits on a nearly 900,000-square-foot campus only a few blocks north of the White House..." Fairbanks, Amanda M. (Winter 2022). "National Geographic Reinvents Itself". Stanford Social Innovation Review. Vol 20. no. 1. pp 16-23 (no link, but available through TWL)
Moved to mainspace by DrOrinScrivello (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

DrOrinScrivello (talk) 15:05, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Undefeated (band)

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Lis Dunckel of Undefeated
Lis Dunckel of Undefeated
  • ... that when Lis Dunckel (pictured) replaced the previous bassist for Undefeated, she didn't know how to play bass?
Created by 3family6 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 109 past nominations.

3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 12:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Diagon Alley

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Converted from a redirect by Mikeycdiamond (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Mikeycdiamond (talk) 04:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Katherine Balch

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 88 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 14:37, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Thomas Kerr (Scottish politician)

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Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

Sahaib (talk) 06:44, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on June 12

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Skraban–Deardorff syndrome

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  • ... that only about 150 people have been diagnosed with Skraban–Deardorff syndrome, a rare genetic condition whose individuals are often described as sociable and happy?
  • Reviewed: [[]]
Improved to Good Article status by Strange Orange (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

— Strange Orange 02:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Murder of Nancy Titterton

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Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

Moondragon21 (talk) 09:03, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Crime Magazine is not a reliable source (see below). This should be easy to fix, though, since there are plenty of other sources which say the same thing
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Not bad for an article. Earwig returns 16%, which is good. However, I have found quite a few sourcing issues (all numbers based on this revision). #4 (Catt's True Crime Corner) seems like a WP:BLOG and thus shouldn't be used as a source; ditto for #7 (George Pallas) and #10/#16 (Crime Magazine, the same source used to support this hook). All of these individuals claim to be subject-matter experts on crime, but they all fail the criteria of being published in independent, reliable sources as far as I can tell. The link for #9 (The Lineup) also appears to be broken. Both #11 (The Daily Beast) and #17 (Washington Examiner) are not recommended at WP:RSP, but I'm okay overlooking this since neither are explicitly listed as unreliable.

The other major issue I'm seeing is that the article could really benefit from a proofreading/copyedit, to make it more presentable. Some particularly rough bits of prose include:

  • Ohio-born Nancy married Englishman husband in 1929. — Not that great of a sentence altogether, and it could probably be cut or merged into the previous one.
  • Her body was discovered on the afternoon of Good Friday... — The reference to "Good Friday" here inhibits understanding, given that the day of the week she was murdered was never established.
  • It was often used as stuffing in upholstery. — There has got to be a better way to phrase this sentence, especially since it currently implies that the piece of horsehair found at the crime scene had other uses other than upholstery stuffing.
  • The upholstery shop in question was owned by Theodore Kruger, who found the body with his assistant John Fiorenza. — Isn't it mentioned earlier that her body was discovered by "two furniture repairmen"? If those people are Kruger and Fiorenza, then it should probably be established earlier on, rather than hiding their names for the sake of a "grand reveal".

These, combined with my above neutrality concerns, are my observations on this article. It is definitely a lot to fix up, but this is a really nice hook, and I'm willing to work with you if you are fine putting in the work to bring this article to the main page! Leafy46 (talk) 18:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also propose a re-structuring of the hook to ALT0A: "... that a single horsehair helped solve the murder of Nancy Titterton?" This is just because it feels more hook-y to me this way, but I would ultimately be sending both your original hook and my adjustment forward to whoever is putting together the set. Leafy46 (talk) 04:00, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Leafy46: thank you that does sound more hook-y. Done. Moondragon21 (talk) 05:13, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Scott King (basketball)

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  • Comment: QPQ to be done soon.
Created by Soulbust (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.

Soulbust (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new and long enough. Sourcing looks solid, hook fact is interesting and present/cited in article. Earwig raises no concerns (only flagged proper noun phrases, so no worries). Just waiting on the QPQ and we should be good to go. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bohlenia

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Fossil Bohlenia americana leaflets
Fossil Bohlenia americana leaflets
  • ... that the fossil soapberry Bohlenia (pictured) was named for Oregons 1972 "biology teacher of the year?
  • Source: Wolfe and Wehr 1987 pg19 - Derivation of name. This genus is named for Anne Bohlen of Portland, Oreg. Miss Bohlen is an inspiring teacher in biology, as evidenced by her being named Oregon's High School Biology Teacher of the Year. She was also instrumental in guiding and

encouraging the senior author's early training.

The Oregonian on Dec. 19, 2006. obituaries - Anne Bohlen Anne was honored by being named Oregon's Biology Teacher of the Year in 1972. One of her students went on to study at Harvard... In honor of his teacher, Anne Bohlen, who encouraged him when he was a student at Franklin High School, he named the species Bohlenia Americana.
    • ALT1: ... that the fossil soapberry Bohlenia (pictured) had its seeds taken away? Source: McClain, A. M.; Manchester, S. R. (2001) Previous nomenclature "Because fossil Dipteronia fruits have never been found attached to any type of foliage, we restrict the name Bohlenia americana to the foliage upon which it is based." " Wolfe and Wehr (1987) established the new combination Bohlenia insignis (Lesquereux) Wolfe & Wehr for this species. In our opinion, the name Bohlenia should be applied exclusively to foliage."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Petrosedum sediforme
Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 370 past nominations.

Kevmin § 13:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Murder of Luigia Borrelli

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Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

Moondragon21 (talk) 05:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Dull hook. A lot of murder investigations have been reopened after long periods of time (see Murder of Sherri Rasmussen, for instance). Daniel Case (talk) 04:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Better. Just provide a source when you make it ALT1. Daniel Case (talk) 02:18, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Daniel Case: Done. Moondragon21 (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I meant here in the nomination, actually, but I checked it in the article and it's fine. I'd put it in the lede where you first mention it. Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 13

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Doll Hut

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Created by Sewageboy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Sewageboy (talk) 05:33, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Lynching of Preston Porter Jr.

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A sketch of Porter from The San Francisco Call
A sketch of Porter from The San Francisco Call
Moved to mainspace by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 90 past nominations.

PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:18, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Dustin Nickerson

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  • ... that stand-up comedian Dustin Nickerson's children have veto power over any jokes he might tell about them?
Created by Dclemens1971 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:43, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Væb

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Væb in 2025
Væb in 2025
Improved to Good Article status by History6042 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 302 past nominations.

Launchballer 16:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Worrall Reed Carter

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Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 446 past nominations.

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Prescott Currier

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Improved to Good Article status by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 445 past nominations.

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:11, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Warren Truitt

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Warren Truitt, c. 1895
Warren Truitt, c. 1895
  • ... that Warren Truitt served as a legislator in Oregon and a judge in Alaska in the 19th century, and as both a legislator and a justice in Idaho in the 20th?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I'll catch up on the QPQ.
Created by BD2412 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

BD2412 T 01:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - pending
Overall: Article looks good. Awaiting QPQ. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:19, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Nagoya skipping

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Created by AlphaBetaGamma (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 09:41, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Paul Among the People

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liter ary equal (Ruden speaks teasingly of Paul’s “rough art”) but to convey a sense of attitudes and assumptions that were pervasive in the classical world, against which Paul’s message stands out in stark contrast." John Wilson, https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=f6h&AN=48988682&site=eds-live&scope=site
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Created by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 303 past nominations.

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