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Bot Request

Thanks for your help with the Packers articles. I was expecting more articles than just four! There was another task I was going to submit. I was interested in getting two lists of articles from within Category:Green Bay Packers and its sub-categories:

1. All articles assessed as a stub on the article talk page's WikiProject templates but that do not have a {{Stub}} template on the article page itself
2. All articles with a {{Stub}} template on the article page but assessed as something other than a stub on the article talk page's WikiProject templates

Is this something you would be willing and able to produce? If not, happy to submit a request at WP:BOTREQ. Thanks, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: After making the first two lists, I realized I didn't do it exactly the way you wanted, so I made a third list for you:

I used the AutoWikiBrowser software to make the lists, and you don't need a bot account to use it. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:38, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! :) Are you willing and able to complete the tagging of the articles with {{WikiProject Green Bay Packers}} in the last list if I go through the list and verify whether the tagging is appropriate? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007 = Yes I am. GoingBatty (talk) 21:09, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

I knocked out the second list. Thanks! Made it super easy. Question on the third list: did you assess whether these have infoboxes as well? Also, regarding the first list, I have started going through it (see here). What I am doing is going to each article and assessing whether it is a stub. If it isn't, I am assessing the talk page templates as such and removing it from the list. Thus, my goal will be to whittle the list down to actual stubs that need stub sorting. Is this something you are capable of doing (my experience with stub sorting is really minimal, so bare with my ignorance). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: I did not assess whether the articles in the third list have infoboxes. Yes, I can help with stub sorting. Many of them would have a stub template within Category:American football biography stubs. GoingBatty (talk) 18:25, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Awesome, well I will keep going at that list. Not sure how quickly I can get it done, but I will let you know. Then the last one will be reviewing the third list to make sure they are appropriate for WP:PACKERS, etc. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:19, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok, so I went through the first list. I paired the list from 233 articles to 80 (see below). I reassessed 153 of these articles as start-class. Thus, the remaining list need stub templates and stub sorting. Are you able to do this? Is there anything you need from me? Thank you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:10, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: Each of these articles now has a stub template. The 79 biographical articles now have {{Amfoot-bio-stub}}, but still need to be sorted into more specific templates. GoingBatty (talk) 02:14, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: Stub sorting is now  Done. GoingBatty (talk) 04:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!!! You said 79, but the list is 80. Was there a duplicate article? Just curious. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:19, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: Your list of 80 articles contains 79 biographical articles plus Bellevue Park (stadium). GoingBatty (talk) 16:10, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Gotcha! Thanks for the clarification. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:22, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok, here is what I am thinking on the last list. Let me know what you think from a process standpoint:

1. Tag all of the articles with {{WikiProject Green Bay Packers}}
2. When tagging, fill out the parameters as such:
   • For class, inherit the existing class assessment from WikiProjects (and add auto=inherit), so that Category:Automatically assessed Green Bay Packers articles will be filled.
   • For importance, leave blank.
   • Assess whether each page has an infobox. If so, then add needs-infobox=yes, so that Category:Green Bay Packers articles needing infoboxes will be filled.
3. When that is done, I will then go through each article and confirm the assessment, remove auto=inherit, assess for project importance and add an infobox if necessary.
4. While I am doing that, would you then be able to run the previous two queries regarding the stub status (rated as a stub but no stub template and articles assessed as something else but with a stub template) and provide me lists again to work through. This would make sure that I didn't miss any on the previous lsits and cover the new 239 articles added to the WikiProject. Thank you so much for your insight and especially for your help. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:34, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: I numbered the lists to make things easier. I'm presuming when you refer to "the last list", you mean list #3 Articles in Green Bay Packers category but not in Category:WikiProject Green Bay Packers articles. If so, I can tag those articles with {{WikiProject Green Bay Packers}} with |auto=inherit for all and |needs-infobox=yes if needed. I could also rerun lists #1 and #2. Please confirm before I start. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:19, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that it correct, List #3. Your process as stated is what I am requesting. Thank you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:22, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: I've added the WikiProject template to the talk page for each article in list #3. I also made some manual fixes to talk pages you edited, such as Talk:Danny Etling, because the WikiProject doesn't appear when you add it after the |blp=yes parameter. Here are your new lists:

1b. Updated list of articles in Category:Stub-Class Green Bay Packers articles without a stub template
Brad Keeney Ed Konopasek

When you're done with all this, you might be interested in working on the Cleanup listing for WikiProject Green Bay Packers. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:49, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Going Batty. Can you check the edits though? Like here you add the inherit parameter but didn't actually assess the article by adding in the class parameter and rating it as a start. Here is another issue with the template parameters. Category:Automatically assessed Green Bay Packers articles is pretty much empty but should be filled with hundreds of articles.

Thanks for the note on the clean-up listing. I actually have slowly but surely been working on it for the last few weeks. Just often time-intensive work with all the citations issues. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:20, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007. Oh - I misunderstood the assignment. I only added |auto=inherit, not the |class= parameter. I'll have to think about how to properly add the |class= parameter with the appropriate value. GoingBatty (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Gotcha. Typically the |auto=inherit parameter is added when the |class= parameter is filled out by a bot using the current assessment from other WikiProjects. As an example, Josh Warner is currently rated as a stub by four other WikiProjects. Thus, {{WikiProject Green Bay Packers}} would be rated as a stub, but with the |auto=inherit field filled out. This then allows human editors to audit the automatic assessment and then remove the |auto=inherit when the assessment is either confirmed or is updated to something else. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:42, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

You know what, I think I can just work off of Category:Unassessed Green Bay Packers articles. Did all of these have infoboxes? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:14, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: My bot is adding the |class= parameters now. All of these had infoboxes. GoingBatty (talk) 17:44, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: Between your work and my bot, all the |class= parameters should now be added. I also reran the first two reports:

Have a great day! GoingBatty (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I'm working through assessing them all for importance and removing the inherit parameter. About 80 left. After that I will work on the two lists (thank you for rerunning them! You read my mind). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:06, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

brownie

thanks for fixing the stub tag on "New Sudan" MateoFrayo (talk) 00:59, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Talkback

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@Iterresise: Thanks, but as stated at the top of this page, you can just {{ping}} me in your reply instead of leaving a separate talkback message. GoingBatty (talk) 06:40, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on WiseNut

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CS1 error on Deadbolt (Thrice song)

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Apology

Sorry, I messed up your comment on User talk:LWu22. I tried to insert it, but obviously missed half of it, when I tried to resolve the edit conflict. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:59, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Jmcgnh: No worries! I liked the comments you added for the user. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

"could refer"

I've come across "[wildcard] could refer to:" rather than "[wildcard] may refer to:". Is this something you could implement in AWB? Iterresise (talk) 06:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

@Iterresise: Yes, it's possible to configure AWB with any find and replace rule. I see the examples at MOS:DABPAGES all use "may refer to" or "may also refer to". I'm not sure that means "could refer to" is incorrect, as it is used on 1,174 pages. Is there a consensus for such a change? GoingBatty (talk) 06:49, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft categories

On the tea house we spoke a bit about bots. As much as automatically making draft articles with active categories go into draft categories, I think an easier application that will be less controversial is fixing legacy category disabling.

The biggest issue I’ve personally had with it is that it seems many people using AWB convert categories in a draft categories template into links, which results in the draft categories template no longer working with hotcat and as a result accidental addition into mainspace categories Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 18:30, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

@Immanuelle: Hi there! The behavior you are describing is not standard AWB functionality. When you see that happen, please revert the edits and send the people a kind note about the functionality of the {{Draft categories}} template. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:34, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

access-date

I could have sworn that access-date was for determining if a URL was live? AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

@AManWithNoPlan: |access-date= is for documenting when you read the web page, and |url-status= is for documenting if a URL is live (but only if you're also using |archive-url=) - see Template:Cite web#URL. GoingBatty (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

The category now has about 125,000 fewer pages in it. I am now running the IABot on all of those pages. That will get many of the |url-status=dead with no |archive-url= pages fixed by adding the |archive-url=. All the remaining pages will then need |url-status=dead changed to {{dead link}}, which is what they should have had in the first place. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

But that should wait on https://iabot.wmcloud.org/index.php?page=viewjob&id=15322 and https://iabot.wmcloud.org/index.php?page=viewjob&id=15323 AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

This is so small now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_url-status AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

@AManWithNoPlan: Wonderful - thanks so much! GoingBatty (talk) 14:33, 28 September 2023 (UTC)