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Chartwell IP editors[edit]

Hi. I am having trouble understanding the actions of the two recent IP editors at Chartwell - the 91. and the 2a01: ... possibly the same person. I'm sure you've seen their contribs and where else they have been active. it's not exactly proper vandalism but it does seem very strange and I think is cumulatively destructive, or they lead on to more problems, etc ... se T.E.Lawrence for example. I don't really get it and I don't have the stomach for a big battle. What do you think? Cheers DBaK (talk) 00:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No worries! Almost certainly the same editor, but we’ve rolled them back, and can do so again. As to their motivation, heaven alone knows. KJP1 (talk) 13:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi @KJP1: I am just picking up on the comment that you made on SovalValtos' talk page a week or so ago. Two editors have looked at the Dorking article and have very kindly given me feedback (their comments are on the talk page). I wanted to ask your opinion on the next steps. Do you feel that the article is ready for WP:GAN or would it be better if it went to a formal peer review first? What would you advise? Thanks and best wishes, Mertbiol (talk) 18:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mertbiol - apologies, real life very busy at present. Will look this weekend. KJP1 (talk) 21:19, 5 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks KJP1, this is very kind of you. I've just seen your comments on the talk page. I'll respond to you there. Mertbiol (talk) 11:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chepstow War Memorial[edit]

Will this help? Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:35, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congrats KJP1 on a very tidy new article. Certainly a start not a stub! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi both - great to hear from you and hope you are keeping well in my favourite corner of our locked-down country. And thanks Ghmyrtle for the excellent paper. That was a labour of love. The Evill/Francis connections are interesting. They must have known each other, or at least each other’s families in turn of the century Chepstow. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 18:24, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There's information there about how the War Memorial was commissioned, which could be included in the article, and the information on those commemorated could be summarised. If it's not added as a source, I would have thought it could be added as an external link. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:47, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes indeed, I think it can probably be used for both. Thanks again. KJP1 (talk) 08:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'll leave it to you - per WP:SELFCITE! Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You're in! KJP1 (talk) 11:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's not quite what I meant.... but thank you! Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Stackpole Elidor[edit]

Was going to start a new article on this Grade I Pembs church, but thought I would check first that you weren't already doing it. T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 16:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tony Holkham - Good to hear from you, and hope life is as good as it can be in these frustrating times. I long to see family in Wales again! Nope, Stackpole’s not on my to-do list, but thanks for asking. So have at it!. Not sure if you’ve got the Pevsner - if not, let me know and I’ll copy out the entry on your Talkpage. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 18:42, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, I don't have Pevsner so would be grateful for that. Still keeping our heads down here in the west, but hoping with better weather and falling casualties that things will soon improve. We have folks in England we haven't seen since 2019. Keep safe. T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:10, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I didn't get a chance earlier, but I wanted to thank you for your encouragement, support and gentle guidance with Lord Goff of Chieveley when it was at FAC, and for your kind message when it was at TFA. They made a difference. :) Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 04:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Kohlrabi Pickle - That’s very kind. It was my absolute pleasure. KJP1 (talk) 07:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

St Mary of the Angels Church, Brownshill[edit]

Months ago you asked me for a photo of St Mary of the Angels Church, Brownshill. I have now been able to take a few - feel free to change the one I have put in the infobox & on Friends of Friendless Churches for any others in commons category. Sorry it has taken so long but with COVID & the bad weather I have not been able to get there until now.— Rod talk 16:32, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rodw - Rod, you are an absolute star! That missing image was bugging the hell out of me. Thanks so much, and I hope you had an enjoyable trip. It is so good to be able to get out again, albeit in a limited way. KJP1 (talk) 16:36, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is up a very small lane & difficult to access, but is was nice & sunny (also managed a trip to Brimscombe to look at the old canal as part of the same trip).— Rod talk 16:40, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I own the property and am putting in the proper informed. If they want to sanction me feel free. Memstead (talk) 21:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Replied on your Talkpage. KJP1 (talk) 21:28, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Great Pagoda, Kew Gardens[edit]

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On 2 June 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Great Pagoda, Kew Gardens, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 18th-century Great Pagoda in London is considered the most important surviving example of Chinoiserie: Chinese-inspired design in Europe? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Great Pagoda, Kew Gardens. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Great Pagoda, Kew Gardens), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Your hook reached 5,731 views (477.6 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of June 2021 – nice work!

theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/they) 01:04, 12 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Hello KJP1. Hope you are well. You've not come across this one yet? You might be interested. Kind regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:40, 1 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Green tickY, Done. KJP1 (talk) 06:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And very well done on creating Church of St Deinst, Llangarron so quickly! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:22, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ham House[edit]

I see the excellent people at Ham House have put the article up for GAN. Do you fancy – and have you time for – reviewing it? You'd of course be better equipped than I am from the architecture/decor point of view, but I'm happy to do it if you're unavailable. Best wishes, Tim talk 16:31, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tim riley - Yes, I think I will. But if you had the opportunity to review the prose as part of the GAN, that would be most helpful. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:08, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
p.s. Tim riley - I just had a thought. I did do a bit of work or this, which may preclude me from reviewing. I shall ask. If it does, if you picked it up, I would be very pleased to do a supplementary review of the architecture/history within the GAN. KJP1 (talk) 17:10, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good point. If your contributions are seen to rule you out as reviewer I'll do the review but invite you to add your comments to the review page. Otherwise happy to add a prose review to your main review. Tim talk 17:28, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tim riley - Tim, there is a view that I’ve too many edits to review. Shall we proceed as you suggest above. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 05:47, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fair enough, and right and proper. I've done a first review, mainly on the prose rather than the substance. It will be a great help to the main authors and indeed to me if you add your expert – kindly don't disclaim the adjective – thoughts. I enjoyed revisiting the article. The authorial enthusiasm leaps from the page. – Tim riley talk 13:00, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

NB: I've got the relevant guidebooks on order for the plan etc. Should hopefully arrive by mid-week, and I'll get on with those. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hchc2009 - H, you’re a star. Many thanks indeed. KJP1 (talk) 21:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Try this: File:Ham House - labelled ground plan.png and see if it suits. Turns out there was a Crown Copyright version published back in 1959; have cleaned it up, etc. etc. Am working on how best to present the gardens... Hchc2009 (talk) 17:42, 22 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hchc2009 - H, that looks great! I am assuming we can add a key on the bottom, a la Sissinghurst, to identify the rooms. And then, if Isaksenk wants, they could add a room identifier to each sub-section of the article. A garden plan would also be really helpful. Looking at it on Google Earth, it looks like it might lend itself to a Sissinghurst-style depiction? The Thames, the North Front with Father Thames, the Cherry Garden, the South Front parterres and the kitchen garden? But what do I know! All the best. KJP1 (talk) 21:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Right house plan done, with key, and added in. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:26, 23 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And bloody great it looks too! Extremely helpful to the reader. Thanks, H. KJP1 (talk) 20:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi KJP! Hope all is well with you. I happened to notice your Inglis Bridge. It brought back memories of Monmouthpedia! I walked over it a few times and spent an afternoon with the Royal Monmouthsire Royal Engineers (the only doubly royal regiment in Britain!). I'm glad you've managed to find enough sources to put together an article. I wondered if you'd mind having a look at my latest project, the Old Exe Bridge. I based the structure on your outstanding Monnow Bridge article and used some of the same sources. I'd like to take it to FAC but I've never done an FA on a bridge or a mediaeval topic before so I was hoping you might have time to do a GA review, or just read through it and make sure it makes sense. Thanks! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:55, 3 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

HJ Mitchell - Great to hear from you, Harry! I’m good thanks, and I hope all is well with you too. I should be delighted to have a look at the Old Exe Bridge. I am overdue on an FAC review of Ham House (see above), work continues bloody busy, and we’re off to Spain next week for our first holiday for a year, but if I can get to it before I go, I will. Assuming, of course, somebody else doesn’t pick it up in the meantime. If they do, I’ll still take a look prior to, and at, FAC. Sourcing the Inglis Bridge, Monmouth was actually easier than I anticipated. It is a curious coincidence that Monmouth has the only fortified bridge with a central gatehouse at one end of town, and the only Inglis Bridge in public use at the other. What a lot one does learn from Wikipedia. KJP1 (talk) 17:57, 3 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Somebody else has kindly taken on the GA review but I'd still be grateful if you could cast an eye over it when you get chance. I'd spotted Ham House and it's on my (ever-growing) to-do list. I know a thing or two about work being busy! Spain sounds lovely, especially after all the rain we've had recently! I suppose it's not entirely surprising that a town at the confluence of two rivers would need bridges but you're right, it's an interesting coincidence that it got two unique bridges centuries apart! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK nomination of Inglis Bridge, Monmouth[edit]

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DYK for Inglis Bridge, Monmouth[edit]

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On 30 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Inglis Bridge, Monmouth, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Inglis Bridge (pictured) in Monmouth, Wales, is the only known example in Britain of an Inglis bridge that is still in public use? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Inglis Bridge, Monmouth. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Inglis Bridge, Monmouth), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 30 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Precious anniversary[edit]

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Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for a good DYK below! - Sharing the page with Fabian Kelly, who sang for us. And with Gianni Schicchi last day, - was TFA on 14 December as I wanted, in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for St Collen's Church, Llangollen[edit]

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On 17 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St Collen's Church, Llangollen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that St Collen's Church (pictured) in Wales has a memorial to one of the 19th century's most famous same-sex partnerships? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St Collen's Church, Llangollen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, St Collen's Church, Llangollen), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 17 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy Christmas![edit]

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Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Adoration of the Kings (Bramantino) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda[edit]

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So here's some Jingle Wings and some Jingle Navidad Cubana and some Bryn and some Crickmore:Crewe just for you!!

Very best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:15, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Johnbod and Martin - Many thanks, and my warmest seasonal wishes to you, and to all I’ve worked productively with over the last, now nearly 15, years! KJP1 (talk) 21:17, 22 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Very welcome. ""Gwell dysg na golud." Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Nollaig shona duit
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To KJP1, wising you and yours the very best for the holiday season and new year. Ceoil (talk) 20:45, 24 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ceoil - Thank you, and a very happy New Year to you and yours. KJP1 (talk) 23:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

GAN Backlog Drive – January 2022[edit]

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Disambiguation link notification for January 9[edit]

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in friendship[edit]

January songs
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in friendship

Thank you for being around! - Happy new year, in friendship! - Today I show - in "songs" - yesterday's snow, and today's music in memory of Jerome Kohl, a friend whom I miss much, - you will understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

NIAH v NMS v RPS[edit]

Hiya. Following-on from our recent discussion here, I thought it might be helpful to note some differences between heritage conservation types/statuses in Ireland.

In this edit the "NIAH number" (for Costello House) was added to the "national designation" field. This had two effects. One, it indicated that Costello House is protected as a National Monument (it is not). And, two, it indicated that its heritage protection number (RPS or NMS) is number 30409101 (it is not).

To restate, the NIAH is not a record of protected structures. An entry in the NIAH doesn't indicate that the structure is subject to protection at a national level (as a National Monument) or at a local level (as a protected structure). And so that number (30409101) is not relevant for either.

The official list of National Monuments in County Galway is published here. By the National Monuments Service. Costello Lodge is not listed. No NMS number.

The official Record of Protected Structures for Galway is published here. By Galway County Council. Costello Lodge is listed. RPS number 734.

Please be careful not to use the NIAH website as indication of protected status (it isn't a record of protected structures) or to use the NIAH "numbers" as indicators of national monument status (as they aren't).

All the best. Guliolopez (talk) 17:01, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Guliolopez - Noted, and your somewhat exasperated edit summaries. I am sorry I am taking a little while to get my head around Irish heritage designations. I think I understand most of it now, the National Monuments Service lists National Monuments while Protected Structures are listed by the county councils. I am still a little puzzled as to what an entry in the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage (NIAH) does signify. It's not that it is a national monument nor that it is a protected structure, as you've explained. So what exactly does a building being recorded and categorised with a Reg No in the NIAH actually denote? Reading the article on the NIAH, it suggests the inventory is a record of “to be protected buildings and sites” [third line of Formation section]. Is it some sort of preliminary list of sites which may merit Protected Structure status? KJP1 (talk) 11:49, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi KJP1. With apologies for any exasperation on my part (or my inability to temper it), I think the best way of explaining the NIAH is as per this recent AfD discussion. In short, and as you note above, the NIAH is a record of surveys. A review, as you suggest, of structures which might be considered (depending on the outcome of the survey) for protection. In short, the:
  • NIAH is a list of structures which have been considered for heritage protection. (Some of which have then been put forward for protection).
  • RPS is a list of structures which have been conferred with heritage protection. (All of which are therefore subject to planning restrictions).
(I'd describe the NIAH as a "waiting room". But that kinda implies that all entries are progressed to the doctors office. Many are not progressed. Like those generic 1970s pitch pine phone boxes or ubiquitous 1990s aluminum post boxes we talked about. Which are typically not recommended for heritage protection by the minister or the council. Per the NIAH website "NIAH surveys provide the basis for the recommendations of the Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage to the planning authorities for the inclusion of particular structures in their Record of Protected Structures (RPS)." Perhaps more "funnel" or "sieve" than waiting room....)
Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 12:17, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Guliolopez - No problem at all, I appreciate it can be frustrating when editors - in this case me! - mess up articles one is interested in. The explanation of the NIAH as a funnel is helpful - it cannot be taken as an indicator either of Monument or Protected status, but may be an indicator of potential notability. I shall try to reflect this in any further Irish buildings articles I may pick up. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 12:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wordle Up! dude...[edit]

I see you have already visited.... XXCAP, CXPEL, CAPEL? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Martinevans123 - Ah, I see we were both waiting for the world's greatest radio programme. And very addictive Wordle is! Currently doing a little bit on that odd, ex-Monmouthshire, enclave, Welsh Bicknor. A very interesting house. Keep well. KJP1 (talk) 11:41, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah right, nice one. You are always busy doing something! In case you missed it... Martinevans123 (talk) 11:48, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kerne Bridge (River Wye Crossing)[edit]

Thank you so much for your kind words. At some point when I have time I'm going to write an article on the Dry Bridge at Goodrich (having covered it in a rudimentary way in the Kerne Bridge piece). As you're an expert on Courtfield (which as you know can be reached no other way than by the Dry Bridge) you may find it of interest when it appears. Kind regards Vortexionio (talk) 15:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

3, The Grove, Highgate[edit]

[9], [10], [11], [12] - a possibility. KJP1 (talk) 07:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

But see The Grove, Highgate. KJP1 (talk) 07:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for your thanks, great article! Do let me know if you have any specific building requests - I'm always wandering about and I'll try and fulfil them. Gainsborough Gardens is the other local stunner to the Grove IMO. Today's FAC looks incredible. I remember taking some photos of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway War Memorial many moons ago - all disembodied it looks like something Adolf Loos dreamt up. All the best - No Swan So Fine (talk) 12:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No Swan So Fine - Swan, good to hear from you. No. 3 was a bit of a present to a friend; she’s Priestly’s granddaughter and her mother grew up in the house. Thanks so much for the offer - I shall bear it in mind. Yep, the Paddington memorial was up to Harry’s usual high standards. There’s another rather nice building article coming up at the end of the month. Take care. KJP1 (talk) 18:52, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congrats on the main page thing. Hopefully you will enjoy and not find it an annoyance. Ceoil (talk) 02:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ps, re 1000 editors decendng at once, try Glenn Branca - Symphony No 13 for 100 guitars. Both the tune and Ham being so suddenly prominent involve large ceilings crashing down around your head. Ceoil (talk) 02:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ceoil - Thanks, though I can’t claim credit for this one. It’s down to User:Isaksenk and their volunteer team. But it’s nice to see another architecture article in the TFA slot. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 07:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That rather conflicts with how I've imagined you over the last ten years: a dashing but dastardly brain who casts an sometimes invisible but highly influence shadow over the whole of architectural pages here. We once share a pint together, and it was such a great conv from my perspectivel made me realised the value of Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral, beyond an amazing thing to wonder upon while on mushroom. Ceoil (talk) 03:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ceoil - You’re mixing me up with Giano! Stay off those shrooms! KJP1 (talk) 07:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not really, take the praise when deserved man. Ceoil (talk) 14:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge[edit]

Hi KJP1, I'd like to let you know that I have boldly added Great Pagoda, Kew Gardens to Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge attached to your name. Please let me know if you'd like it to be removed, or add other articles you have worked on that may be relevant! Best, CMD (talk) 06:17, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chipmunkdavis - You’re very welcome, and I’ve no problem with your adding it. I’m not entirely sure of your 10,000K criteria, but other articles I’ve expanded in the past year or so include Powis Castle, Hewell Grange and Harlaxton Manor. New articles you can see here, [13], and there may be a few things that fit your bill, such as Inglis Bridge, Monmouth. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 06:36, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To my understanding it has to be 1.5kb in prose, and created/expanded since August 2016. (Copycat challenges for other geographical regions seem to have no prose requirements.) I suspect most of your articles fit, and would indeed push the project into its next 1000, but please forgive me for not going through it all now! CMD (talk) 06:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Chipmunkdavis - Take your time! I think you should actually be able to pick up just shy of 300! KJP1 (talk) 07:20, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Chipmunkdavis} - Oh, for expansion, you can also pick up Ham House, recent FA by Isaksenk, and Madresfield Court. KJP1 (talk) 14:45, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A Dobos torte for you![edit]

Dobos cake (Gerbeaud Confectionery Budapest Hungary).jpg 7&6=thirteen () has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.

To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen () 20:10, 24 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It would be great to add a photo of some of the stained glass. 7&6=thirteen () 20:12, 24 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Stained glass, I couldn’t manage. But some nice funerary art! KJP1 (talk) 21:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well done! I am going to take this to DYK. Any suggestions for hooks? 7&6=thirteen () 16:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DYK that “Gary Cooper was confirmed at the 14th-century Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis?” KJP1 (talk) 20:07, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New message from DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Angel of the North § Angel model at Eggleston Hall Gardens. DBaK (talk) 12:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Would Kuzych v White qualify as a featured article?[edit]

Now that it's through the review process for DYK, do you mind if I ask you, as someone with a lotta stars: would Kuzych v White qualify for Featured article, in your opinion? or is it too law/primary sources dependent? just curious if it's worth nominating? all these processes are very mysterious.  :) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:45, 2 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz - The subject matter is absolutely fine for FA and to me it’s a nice, comprehensive and well-sourced article. But I’m no expert on law articles. My go-to editor on matters legal was Kohlrabi Pickle but they are semi-retired these days so may not be able to respond with advice. Nonetheless, I’ve pinged them. My one piece of process advice is that DYK straight to FA is a big step. I used to suggest Wikipedia:Peer review as a place to get input from a range of editors - which is what an Featured Article Candidate (FAC) needs - but I think it’s a bit moribund these days. Wikipedia:Good article nominations is another possibility, and if you strike lucky with a strong reviewer, you can get a lot of valuable input. Of course, you can go straight to FA, but bear in mind that the process can be robust! All the very best with it and, if you do go to FA, ping me and I shall certainly review it. KJP1 (talk) 05:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the info. I'm tied up with a major project IRL at the moment, so if I do try the Featured Article approach, will be down the road a bit. One thing that I assume I will run into is that the article depends heavily on court decisions, which in Wiki-world are apparently considered "primary sources". As a result, I've had editors tag other articles I've worked on with a hatnote that a law article relies too heavily on primary sources. Personally, I think that's an improper approach to legal decisions. It puts a Supreme Court of Canada decision in the same category as a newspaper article, which just doesn't make sense to me. Doubt it will change, though, so I'm not sure if it would be worth doing. Will think about it! Given the FA requirement for a stable article, maybe will just wait for half a year and see if anyone makes any major changes to it, or an edit war breaks out... If I do go ahead, will certainly ping you. Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What's a "TSP"?[edit]

Maurice Magnus (talk) 13:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maurice Magnus = Talk Page Stalker, sorry, muddled my acronym. KJP1 (talk) 13:15, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"Third-person shooter": Everyone knows that... it's the Travelling salesman problem... Martinevans123 (talk) 13:20, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Villa Taylor[edit]

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On 17 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Villa Taylor, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Winston Churchill painted Tower of the Koutoubia Mosque, his only painting during World War II, at the Villa Taylor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Villa Taylor. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Villa Taylor), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:04, 17 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK nomination of Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Bruxton (talk) 23:30, 17 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thankyou for expanding Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis!! I couldn't find your email address, I was going to reply to you before offwiki. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:06, 19 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dr. Blofeld - Great to hear from you. And no problem re. Houghton Regis. It was about the most absurd AfD I’ve ever seen. I think the Wikipedia email facility should work. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 21:25, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chiltern Court[edit]

If, as I infer, you are working on that edifice, I pass on two pieces of OR, one of which won't be of the smallest use but the other may be. The first is that circa 1972 I lived in the block next door and once crashed bang into poor old Wilfred Pickles emerging from Chiltern Court. He was uninjured, but gave me a withering look I can still feel in cold weather. Rather more to the point, blocks of flats of that era had their own restaurants, and the one at CC was reopened some years ago as a Wetherspoon pub, accessed via a modest doorway in the Baker Street façade next to the tube entrance. The place seems to have closed again, as far as I can see, which is a pity, as however much one may (or may not) abominate the proprietor of the chain, it cannot be denied that its refurbishments of old premises can be very good, and it was so here. A huge dining room with lavish decoration, handsomely restored. It may also, perhaps, be of use to note a minor detail that is well documented: when Arnold Bennett was mortally ill in his flat there, the authorities put down straw to deaden the noise of passing traffic - an old custom of which this is the last known incidence: see Pound, Reginald (1953). Arnold Bennett: A Biography. New York: Harcourt, Brace. OCLC 950552766, p. 367. - Tim riley talk 21:01, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tim, excellent stuff! I’ve read through Bennett twice, and I really can’t find anything useful to quibble over, so I thought I’d do a Start on Chiltern Court. Once I did a little digging, one found rather a lot: Bennett, H. G. Wells, Eric Coates, the S.O.E Norwegian section which organised the Telemark Raids, and all designed by Charles Walter Clark. Not a bad haul. I shall write it up tomorrow. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 21:10, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
p.s. Tim, how to describe it? Is “mansion block” the most appropriate term? KJP1 (talk) 21:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't know that "mansion block" is the first term that comes to mind. To me it conjures up something more obviously domestic than a whacking great building on three sides of the Baker Street station façade, which, unless you knew, one might take to be offices or other non-residential spaces. I think "block of flats" is more neutral and possibly safest, but what do I know? If you prefer "mansion block" I shan't be objecting and I very much doubt if anyone else will be. Tim riley talk 22:03, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Chiltern Court definitely deserves coverage! Do let me know if you need anything. Railway architecture is one of my interests (and has overlapped with my war memorial a few times!), and I have a whole shelf of books on the subject. CC is in at least some of them. Don't know if either of you have any interest in old railway bridges? I doubt there's enough for an FA but it's an interesting quirk of rail nationalisations-privatisation-nationalisation-fragmentation. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
HJ Mitchell - That’s really kind. I shall do a Start tomorrow, and you can take a look and see what can be added. Railway bridges aren’t really my thing. Although the Victorians invented them, they generally lack the Burgesian exuberance, Gothic elaboration, and twiddly bits that I look for in a really first-rate piece of Victorian excess! Liked The Cenotaph by the way, and hope my comments are of some use. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I just like bridges, I have to admit! Old ones, new ones, small ones, big ones. I'm sure I could tempt you with a bridge with a bit of Victorian panache! ;) I've only done one bridge FA so far (a really old one!) but might do some more once The Cenotaph is finished. Much obliged for your comments there. I'll work through them as and when! And I'll dig through my railway books in the morning for anything useful on Chiltern Court. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:01, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sadly nothing of much use in the railway books. A couple of sentences was the best I could find. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:03, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The best I got, from the Baker Street entry in Biddle, Gordon (2011). Britain's Historic Railway Buildings: A Gazetteer of Structures (Second ed.). Hersham: Ian Allan Publishing. ISBN 978-0-7110-3491-4., was:

"the massive Chiltern Court (C. W. Clark; 1914) forms the Marylebone Road and Baker Street frontages, a nine-storey Edwardian-style block of luxury flats in Portland stone with much rustication. Heavy ground-floor arches contain shops etc, three of them being the 1911 entrance.

It also mentions "more flats, Chalfont Court (C. W, Clark, 1930), were built by the company over the north end of the station ". HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The finished article is a delight! Your skill in running up interesting and authoritative architectural articles at short notice is enviable, not to say infuriating. Tim riley talk 17:24, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I concur! How many times have I walked past Chiltern Court without it subsequently wikifying from my fingers...fantastic work KJP! No Swan So Fine (talk) 08:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tim riley - So glad you like it! And very sorry it was all I could contribute to dear Arnold. I have to say it was a doddle - bluelinks just fell from the heavens. KJP1 (talk) 17:36, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We have yet to take up our joint invitation to Ham House after acting as guardian angels during GAN and FAC. Pray keep in mind for your diary in due course. Tim riley talk 17:43, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That is a very good point. I shall take a look and be in touch. It will be June at the earliest, I’m afraid, as we’re back to Albaicin in May for a spell. Re. Chiltern Court, I was only sorry I was unable to include details of your own encounter with Wilfred Pickles. I may well ignore OR and RS and conjure up a salacious spoof which will sit there unnoticed for years! KJP1 (talk) 17:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And such things can indeed sit there for years. I felt truly mean when I expunged Mr Boggs from the list here back in 2008. Tim riley talk 18:22, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis[edit]

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On 30 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hollywood star Gary Cooper was baptised at the Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That former student's activities had nothing to do with the school, thus the only reason he is being mentioned in this article is because of his supposed notability; however, he has no Wikipedia article to show his notability. The event is notable, but that is not sufficient in and of itself to show that people involved are notable. If you think he is notable then WP:WTAF. And by the way, of the five references you restored, two are dead and one does not mention him by name. Meters (talk) 21:08, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

St Peter's Church, Forncett[edit]

Hi KJP1 Hope you are well. Thanks so much for your helpful suggestions for improving this article. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to finalise the changes - I couldn't believe we'd last spoken in December! I would be very grateful if you'd take a look at my draft before I move it into the article. I've put some comments and a link to my sandbox in the talk page of the St Peter's article. Look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes Buckland1072 (talk) 21:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Replied on article Talk page. KJP1 (talk) 09:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

June 2022 Good Article Nominations backlog drive[edit]

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happy and glorious[edit]

Thank you so much for snapping the Waterloo Vase, it's been on my hardest to capture NHLE list for ages. The west front really is a fascinating assemblage. No Swan So Fine (talk) 09:16, 3 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No Swan So Fine - My absolute pleasure. I was fortunately able to take a few shots of the garden and shall slot them into Garden at Buckingham Palace at some point. KJP1 (talk) 09:21, 3 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Sorry, no dig intended at you there. I just couldn't believe the edit history and the rush to conclude stuff that isn't yet there! Cheers DBaK (talk) 19:18, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh my goodness I have just seen your conversation with the other editor on their Talk page. I had missed it before. Aaargh. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered - No issue at all. I was over-hasty. Have replied on the Gormley Talkpage. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 19:59, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! It is stuff like this that makes me want to give up ... reasonableness vs. whatever else it is ... gah! Have a nice evening. Cheers DBaK (talk) 20:07, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


June songs
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Thank you today for The Tower House, introduced (in 2015): "This article is about a Grade I listed French Gothic Revival style turreted house in Kensington, London, which was built by William Burges, a master Victorian architect. Built between 1875 and 1881, it was the residence of Burges before his death, and he hosted numerous parties at the house. After a period of neglect in the 1960s, it was restored and was purchased in 1972 by Jimmy Page, who has owned it ever since. The house was a real labour of love for Burges and some of the intricate detail he put into it was a fine example of his prowess and talent, not only as an architect, but as a furniture maker and jewel craftsman. Page himself has commented that he's still finding new things in the design work even today, such is the attention to detail. This has been extensively researched by myself, KJP and Gareth and we believe we've written a highly comprehensive article on the subject which does it justice."! - I think you did, and like to see it on my day. - Which song would you give me? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Always nice to see an architecture FA on the main page, much as TFA can be ... frustrating. Well done! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
HJ Mitchell - Thanks, Harry. And many congratulations on the promotion of The Cenotaph. That was quite a gruelling FA! KJP1 (talk) 05:57, 13 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Barnstar to you[edit]

Castel-Sant'Angelo - nolli plan-coloured.jpg WikiProject Architecture Award
For your exemplary work on articles relating to the work of William Burges. You have moved so many "so-so articles" to either Good articles or Featured articles. Wikipedia would be much the poorer without your work. SethWhales talk 07:20, 12 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Seth Whales - Seth, that is very generous and greatly appreciated. It is always a pleasure, and something of a relief, to learn that some people actually read the stuff one works on here! All the very best. KJP1 (talk) 07:31, 12 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many thanks for taking this on - let me know if you get stuck for a ref. I don't know if (ahem) User:Conte Giacomo is aware of the FAR. Johnbod (talk) 17:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Johnbod - Judging by his response when HogFarm suggested a sprinkling of cites might be in order, it’s probably better if he isn’t! I’ll ping if I find myself short. KJP1 (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

KJP1, see helpful info on iPad editing at User_talk:SandyGeorgia/arch115#iPad_curly_quotes. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, do you mind explaining why you reverted my edits? Woozworlduser (talk) 23:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Woozworlduser - Not at all. You moved substantial amounts of material over from other articles, without attribution (which isn’t the same thing as citation). And in doing so, you added more detail than the summary style for a country article requires. Exactly as Diannaa said. It’s great to see new editors here, but it’s best to seek views on the Talkpage before making major changes to articles, particularly if they are GA or FA. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 23:38, 1 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the heads up. Yes, I see where you're coming from completely. I was just upset, because I spent a lot of time putting together my edits, for the good of the community and for people out there. I love history and I just got carried away. I'll learn. Woozworlduser (talk) 23:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Woozworlduser - No problem at all. There is little one can do on here that can’t be corrected. Your enthusiasm is great and, as you say, Wikipedia is a wonderful resource for people. Happy editing. KJP1 (talk) 23:46, 1 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for updating this. I created it in 2009, but it hadn't crossed my radar much again till last week when I mentioned it in a couple of posts at User_talk:Lajmmoore, trimming the over-long Short Description and noting that it was in need of an update (in sections "Article titles" and "Short descriptions"). Not sure whether her talk page is on your watchlist, or whether this was just a happy coincidence! PamD 08:48, 8 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

PamD - My absolute pleasure. I came across User:Lajmmoore’s NT project when they posted on the Knightshayes Court page and then, by a roundabout route, landed on Elgar, a museum I’d not hear of. There’s more to be done - flesh out the intro, make the History run chronologically, add a bit on the architecture and description - but I think it’s now a solid Start. Thanks to you for beginning it. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 16:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]