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Notes to self - Guild Chapel, Stratford-upon-Avon[edit]

  • JB award for wall paintings [1].
  • Kendal’s infobox

Gwin poeth sbeislyd i chi ...[edit]

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... gan yr hen Gymro; rwy'n gobeithio eich bod wedi cael gwyliau Nadolig gwych ac rwy'n dymuno 2019 heddychlon i chi!
That is Welsh and translates to:
Spicy hot wine for you from the old Welshman; I hope you have had a great Christmas holiday and I wish you a peaceful 2019!
Thank you for your excellent work on the 'pedia.

Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gareth, very kind and much appreciated. All best wishes to you and yours for 2019. KJP1 (talk) 07:21, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 1 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And all best wishes to you, Gerda. KJP1 (talk) 07:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 12 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2018 Year in Review[edit]

WikiChevrons.png The WikiChevrons
For your work on St Donat's Castle you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Barnstar-stone2-noback.png The Epic Barnstar
For your work on St Donat's Castle you are hereby awarded The Epic Barnstar. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Marvellous - thank you so much. And so pleased to see that Tim riley only got a half-star! KJP1 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Cheek! Look out for a glass eye in your beer next Wednesday. Tim riley talk 16:04, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reviewer barnstar[edit]

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For your review of Schinas's article. Thank you Cinadon36 (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you - it was a pleasure and all the very best with the article. KJP1 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Have another[edit]

Barnstar-stone2-noback.png The Epic Barnstar
For your work on Sissinghurst Castle Garden you are hereby awarded The Epic Barnstar. Congrats! I have left some thoughts on my page, under your recent message. Anna (talk) 22:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Anna Roy, Tryptofish - Anna, many thanks indeed. Some great suggestions! I think you're right re. the influence of Long Barn and I'll work out how to weave this in. I'll ask my collaborator, who's the one who actually knows about plants, to see whether Rosa ‘Souvenir du Docteur Jamain’ can get a mention, The quote's a cracker - just need to find where it comes from. I'll let you know how we get on with the other points, all very valid. You're quite right - it's been a great collaboration; much my favourite way to approach an FAC. And thanks for the barn star. You don't contribute at FAC? Absolutely understand, but so very glad you liked the article. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 23:08, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I find GA and FACs can get all very political (small p) so I tend to stay out these days. It's lovely to see WP working collaboratively. As it should be. I got tired of the fighting culture. All best wishes. Anna (talk) 23:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The quote is here. Anna (talk) 23:42, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And let me add how much I too am enjoying the collaboration! As for that rose, Tony Lord appears never to mention that variety, as it's not in the index. Graham Stuart Thomas mentions it twice, both times briefly. On p. 22, he has a single sentence about a trip to Sissinghurst in 1947, where he saw 'Sissinghurst Castle' (already covered on the page) and "the rare purple Hybrid Perpetual 'Souvenir du Docteur Jamain'". On p. 36, he has a list of hybrid perpetual roses, and includes that variety in the list. There is a blog (not a reliable source) that names the nursery where she found it and suggests that Graham Thomas identified the variety for Vita. That doesn't give me much to work with. The quote is a good one, so maybe we could do something with that? --Tryptofish (talk) 23:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The rose isn't a vital point, it's just often hailed as her favourite. The quote is sourced above. Anna (talk) 23:57, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I'm thinking it might be best to treat this as being about "collecting" plants, as opposed to about that particular rose variety. I don't think we should try to fit in another quote box. But in the Rose Garden section, we describe how she obtained roses from other rose growers. We could add a sentence about how she got this rose, and put the quote in a footnote. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think this might be the original source, as it is written by Vita herself: [2]. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Written by her, quoted by Raven, actually. And we already cite the book, so it's Raven 2014, p. 200. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I was also reflecting that SCG is a site of pilgrimage for lesbians internationally - a place of great significance given Vita's life, writing and garden creation. It will be even more so with the film set for UK release at some point this year. Adam Nicolson famously bemoaned "rivers of lesbians coming through that gate.” [3]. And yes, it is so. Anna (talk) 14:29, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have not very good vision, which is the main reason I stopped editing with WP some years back. So I'm going to dip in and out of the article dev, if that's ok. I've currently rather overdone it a bit. The article is more definitive than most books on the subject, and considerably better written, so congrats again. All best wishes for you weekend. Anna (talk) 23:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's very kind . You should, of course, contribute in whichever way works for you. Your input to date has been invaluable and we're very grateful but wouldn't want you to put your eyes under any strain at all. I don't generally like to assess FAC progress for fear of jinxing it!, but I think this one's going pretty well to date. With thanks and all best wishes. KJP1 (talk) 13:40, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered, Gerda Arendt - that's very kind of you both. It was another hugely enjoyable collaborative effort and I think the result does a beautiful place some justice. All the very best. KJP1 (talk) 16:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Many congratulations to all who contributed. It is a credit to WP. Anna (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Naming conventions for articles about churches[edit]

Afternoon KJP. I forgot to "ping" you in my response to your question on the help desk at Wikipedia:Help _desk#Naming conventions for articles about churches. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:35, 1 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hassocks5489 - good to hear from you. Replied at the Helpdesk. KJP1 (talk) 13:46, 1 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 2019[edit]

Information icon Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk: Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing.
Note: You can't really expect to make a serious case against their behaviour when you call them an "idiot" in a section title on their talk page about said compaint. Just sayin'...
- wolf 18:53, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Believe me, this is a user you want to deter. KJP1 (talk) 18:59, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh I hear ya, take a look at some of my comments to him on his talk from just this past December, in the collapsed section. I'm just saying, if you want admins looking at his behaviour, you don't want them looking at yours as well. Or have him saying; "Wah! But look at what KJP1 did!". You might want to quietly change that section title... JMHO - wolf 19:33, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thewolfchild - And I hear you and it’s good advice. But that guy. Such a time sink, and never anything worthwhile. KJP1 (talk) 20:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

While checking the Millennium Encyclopaedia of Worthing for something entirely unrelated, I remembered to look these up, and found some useful additional info. As the weather gradually improves I'll try to get a chance to walk down that way to work and take a better picture. Also, I think the new edition of Pevsner specifically covering West Sussex is due out this year (May/June?); if they are now mentioned I will update accordingly. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:57, 7 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hassocks5489 - many thanks, the recent history is great. Are they presently unoccupied? When you write “Burges intended...”, I assume this is Alfred, not William? It might be worth spelling that out. And a new photo, of the frontage with the statue, would be excellent - provided that you can do it without trespassing, of course! I was really pleased to help get Church of St Helen, Kilnsea listed last year. I think it’s the only Burges that wasn’t. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request on 11:06:00, 8 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Victory2712[edit]

I would like confirmation that my edit has now made the text visible. I have removed all paragraph and double spacing. can you please advise if this is now OK for publishing? Can you see the text? We do have a general election coming in the next 3 months in Australia, and I would like to get this published for one of the candidates. Ali France is a new person on this scene and we want to make it easy for people to get information on her background. many thanks If a donation would help to expedite, please let me know. Many thanks Victory2712 (talk) 11:06, 8 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Victory2712 - I'm no longer involved in Afc so can't help, but a reviewer will get to it soon. But a word of caution - the email you attached is as clear an indication of a Conflict of interest as I've seen, and the text is clearly promotional. I think that will, rightly, cause difficulties with your submission. And Wikipedia does not accept gratuities for publication. Best of luck - you'll need it. KJP1 (talk) 18:06, 8 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(talk page watcher) Victory2712, please read WP:PAID and WP:COI, as these are very important. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Princess Alice[edit]

Hi KJP1, Many thanks for your comments on the Princess Alice PR: the matter has now moved on to FAC for further consideration. If you have time or inclination, I would be grateful to hear any further comments you may have. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 17:56, 11 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request on 10:32:25, 21 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Prakashbs2018[edit]

I just want to create ISTTM page with all proper references I have, please help me about it. Prakashbs2018 (talk) 10:32, 21 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Prakashbs2018 - I'm afraid I'm no longer involved in Afc so can't help, but the requirements remain the same. You need to demonstrate the college's Notability by the use of a range of reliable, independent sources. These sources need to give the college reasonable coverage, and not just be passing mentions. Then you need to write the draft in a neutral, non-promotional, way. If you do this, you should be fine, If you don't, the draft is likely to be deleted again. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As you know, I'm not particularly active on Wikipedia at the moment, although I'm doing my best to ease my way back in. One article that I've been dabbling with during the past few months is Leslie Hylton, the sad story of a prewar West Indies Test cricketer who was hanged for murder in the 1950s. I've opened a Review thread on the article's talkpage, and a few of the usual suspects have added some useful comments there. I know it's not in your usual sphere of activity, but if you can see your way to reading the draft and letting me know what you think of it (spare no blushes) I'd be very grateful. In particular, does it tell the story in a way that will make sense to readers whose cricket knowledge is perhaps somewhat lacking? Your wisdom will be much welcomed. Brianboulton (talk) 22:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Brianboulton - It would be my absolute pleasure and I shall get on to it this weekend. Unfortunately, this is one of those weekends when we're plagued by visitors, (yawn!), so I may run into next week. Delighted you're working up an article and very much hope that it's a sign of renewed appetite and vigour. All the very best. KJP1 (talk) 22:12, 22 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Happy new year old friend! You've done some marvellous writing recently, that Burges Cornwall house totally passed me by. I created Bron-y-de after a passing reference, I'm sure you'll love it. Keep turning the red pins blue! No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Swan, Great to hear from you and I hope you are keeping well. I do indeed like Bron-y-de. Such a pity we don’t have a photo, of which the same could be said of Treverbyn Vean. I’m working on the Pacific Coast version of St Donat’s now, of which I have high hopes. Sometime, Cardiff Castle must be brought up to FA. It’s an unfortunate omission from Burges’s FA oeuvre. Take care and all the best. KJP1 (talk) 16:51, 3 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sissinghurst Castle Garden scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the Sissinghurst Castle Garden article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 18, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 18, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Grade II* listed buildings in Monmouthshire[edit]

Thank you for your kind words. -- KTC (talk) 10:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You've got mail![edit]

Hello, KJP1. Please check your email; you've got mail! The subject is Pevsner.
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——SerialNumber54129 15:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry to both you, KJP1, but did this arrive? Mind you, I see you have been distracted (below) with other trivia, meantime  ;) ——SerialNumber54129 17:23, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Serial Number 54129 - No bother at all. I did and thought I'd replied. Shall go and see if I messed up. If I have, I'll retry. Yes, the below was an irritant. It's incredible the way some people think it's acceptable to behave on here. KJP1 (talk) 18:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Whats a FAC?[edit]

First you mention but do not link to FAC. That's already a problem. Second, WP:BRD. If you'd like to discuss, feel free, but do so at the manual of style. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:14, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Walter Görlitz - FAC is the process whereby it is determined an article becomes, or does not become, a Featured Article. In this case, the FAC included extensive discussion on the size and placing of images. If you wish to make major changes, after the article has passed FAC, it is for you to propose them on the article Talkpage and seek consensus for the changes, not the other way around. As to MoS, if you read it, you will see that it is quite permissible to stagger images and to vary their sizing. KJP1 (talk) 07:26, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, you mean a feature article review. They cannot be relied on meeting any standards they have not investigated. They regularly do not meet MOS:ACCESS and many guidelines. Take it to the MoS's talk page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:33, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Walter Görlitz - I've explained the process as best I can. If you carry on, you will end up blocked. KJP1 (talk) 07:39, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You've done no such thing. You've explained nothing. And now a threat. Wow. I'm sorry you have no clue about what you're doing. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Walter Görlitz - Let me try one more time:

  • The placing and sizing of the images was discussed extensively at the FAC;
  • The article passed FAC with a range of variously-sized, staggered images;
  • This is in line with MoS, which permits such sizing and placing;
  • You altered all of the images to a standard size and placed them all to the right;
  • I reverted and asked that you discuss on the Talkpage;
  • After a pointless edit war, you sensibly self-reverted;
  • So, now you are completely at liberty to start a discussion at the Talkpage explaining why you think the changes you want should be made. If you achieve consensus, they will be made. That's the way this place works.

Have a good day. KJP1 (talk) 08:01, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Let me try this one more time. I asked you to discuss at the manual of style. You steadfastly refused. The MoS has changed opinion over the past year, and clearly you lied you claimed it was "discussed extensively" at the FAC There was some discussion by @RexxS:, @MarchOrDie: and @Sarastro1:. I fully agree that the magnified images are a subjective preference and have nothing to do with accessibility or the MoS for images. So feel free to fix them to meed the MoS or open a discussion at the MoS. This is not about MOS:ACCESS, which was RexxS' point. Walter Görlitz (talk) 08:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Walter Görlitz - Can I suggest that, in future, you don't barge onto other editors' Talkpages and accuse them of knowing nothing and being liars. It's not a collegiate approach. Now, that's all from me. Goodbye. KJP1 (talk) 08:44, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Suggestion noted. Now, if you had actually discussed in the correct location (I could have as well) we wouldn't be discussing here. As far as liars, well, don't and you won't be called one. That included not giving partial answers, incomplete answers, misleading answer or misdirection in your answers. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(watching:) Walter, unfortunately, for some FA writers, "accessibility" is a word from a foreign language. I tried to "translate", but stopped, - waste of time. I find much more urgent work than making FAs more accessible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 19 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image shopping list[edit]

Nature is pressing on in its process of obscuring photographers' views. I think you may have moved away from Tintern whilst another's flash of enthusiasm passed, so are unlikely to have a wish-list of pics before buds burst. I was near Ely last week for the first time in years but the precise conditions for a pic I have planned of the ship of the fens sailing on morning mist were not there. I can more often be available in a 20 mile radius from Bron-y-de. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 11:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SovalValtos - Hi SovalVatos, good to hear from you. Yes, work has rather stalled on the abbey, although I will return to it, and indeed on my other current project. So, until something else piques my interest, I shall continue to potter away amongst the Grade II* listed buildings in Monmouthshire. A photo of Bron-y-de would be wonderful but it was completely destroyed by fire. I shall have to find an out-of-copyright print. Take care. KJP1 (talk) 13:34, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am arranging to see the archive of photos that the current owner of one of the component farms of Lloyd George's estate still has. There is a chance that there is one of Bron-y-de. Tintern I will remove from my plans for this Spring unless I hear from you.SovalValtos (talk) 14:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That’s sounds a very interesting trip! Philip Tilden is a particular interest of mine. Yes, please do put Tintern on the back burner for the present and I’ll let you know when I pick it up again. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have now seen an album of pics (photocopies) including Bron-y-de held by the farm owner. They were given to him when he bought the farm by a local historian ~10 years ago. She is over 90 and has passed her archive on to another who I have arranged to meet to see the Tilden material. There may be photos of the front and interior from an estate agent listing. Copyright unknown. There is a "Tilden House" in Beacon Hill where I may also have a contact. It is said by the owner to be similar in style to Bron-y-de. SovalValtos (talk) 13:58, 12 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fascinating and it would be wonderful to have a photo in the article. I am intrigued by that gigantic mural of an Italian bay that he had in his sitting room. What a tragedy at Notre Dame. The risks when undertaking renovation are huge, as Uppark showed. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 06:26, 16 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, KJP1. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Gurudev Gagandeep Vashist,".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 02:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Legacypac - Certainly not my draft. I must have messed up the decline process. I see it's already gone, and I'm sure that Wikipedia's none the worse for that. Hope all is well in the Afc/Mfd world. KJP1 (talk) 05:54, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You likely moved the page from userspace to draft. That is the usual reason Twinkle mistargets the draft creator. Legacypac (talk) 05:59, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

April 2019[edit]

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Chris troutman - You appear to be lost. Wikipedia:ANEW is that way. KJP1 (talk) 18:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for being needlessly hostile. I understand you feel hurt because a fellow editor doesn't think you should run roughshod. I don't like it when the police pull me over for speeding and reckless driving, either. You haven't violated 3RR yet, so I'm only giving you the templated warning required of the process. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:04, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is it still April 1? I looked, and I'm not seeing evidence of edit warring by KJP1. But maybe there are matters of grammar that are life-and-death, and I don't recognize them. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tryptofish - very much appreciated - but I still think you should be taking a break! Chris troutman - this really is a nonsense argument over nothing. Let's just leave it. I'm quite sure we've both got better things we could be doing on here. KJP1 (talk) 20:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hope all is well, KJP1. You were kind enough to offer to look this over when I'd finished the expansion? I think it's about as done as it can be—there's another image on its way—so does the offer still stand? I promise not to mention piles again  ;) Happy Sunday! ——SerialNumber54129 16:40, 14 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Serial Number 54129 - Will certainly have a look but I'm afraid it will probably be the weekend. Life is rather busy just now. KJP1 (talk) 06:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No rush at all, I'm just grateful that you might be able to find the time. I'm also up to my eyes in stuff. Cheers! 🍷 ——SerialNumber54129 07:46, 16 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Watts Park, Southampton[edit]

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Waldsauerklee, Rauenthal.jpg
... with thanks from QAI

Thank you for this one and many other good ones! - Sad that another friend died, same Main page, and pictured when you click on April. - There's a discussion on Yeats which I have to stay away (but don't manage to ignore): I feel that new editors who probably have no idea that they walk in a mine field are treated as if they laid the mines. What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 15 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you today for Sissinghurst Castle Garden, "created by Vita Sackville-West and her husband Harold Nicolson. Begun in the 1930s, by the time of their deaths it had become one of the world's most famous gardens. Its landscaping approach, a series of "garden rooms" within a formal structure, was innovative and remains influential. Its plant collection, particularly of roses, is renowned."! - Nice coincidence: I also have a garden image on my talk page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 18 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Cragend stuff, and a favour[edit]

Hi - thanks for getting involved at my talk page, I didn't realise that you had created the (excellent) Cragside article - I read it prior to visiting while on holiday at Alnmouth a couple of weeks ago. I'd hoped to find a second hand Pevsner in Barter Books while I was there, but drew a blank :(. If you do manage to find anything it would be great if you could let me know; otherwise, I'll work up a draft based on what I've found already, and anything else Lou can provide, and will ask you to take a look before publishing it to make sure you agree there aren't any issues with the COI stuff.

On a different note... since you've clearly got a great deal of experience in writing quality articles about historic buildings, I wonder whether you'd be willing to do me a favour. I recently created Cullen Old Church - it's been assessed as C class, but hasn't actually been patrolled yet. If you've got time, I'd be grateful if you could patrol it, and perhaps give me any thoughts for ways to improve it. I'd like to get it to GA status if possible, any suggestions for improvements would be greatly appreciated. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 08:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Girth Summit - Done - It looks good. KJP1 (talk) 09:35, 25 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi - I got round to doing some work on Draft:Cragend Silo - would you be interested in taking a look? I haven't had anything more from Lou in the way of pictures or additinoal sources, but I've written up what I can based on what I found. Any thoughts? Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 17:49, 7 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Girth Summit - Looks great. I shall get onto it this evening. In the meantime, I've used the Template:National Heritage List for England which is the preferred approach for citing HE listing designations. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 18:31, 7 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Girth Summit - Could, and will expand a bit more, but for now it should certainly pass Afc. Good effort. An image would be great. And now we shall see if the other contributor understands that it can't be used as a vehicle for promotion. KJP1 (talk) 21:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Brilliant, thanks - I'll publish it today then. GirthSummit (blether) 05:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Girth Summit and KJP1: I hope no-one minds that I had a little fiddle with the draft this morning. Nothing too radical though. Cheers DBaK (talk) 06:53, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered - Not at all. Everyone welcome, as ever. I think it should certainly pass Afc. KJP1 (talk) 07:08, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Absolutely - I agree with every one of your changes (and yes, I think snecked masonry = snecked stone - nice addition). I've resubmitted to AfC - wasn't sure whether it would be above board to just move it to article space after the original draft had been declined - and notified the reviewer who declined the original in case they're inclined to look at it. Cheers all GirthSummit (blether) 07:21, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, both. That's great! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 07:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request on 09:46:18, 29 April 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by JedimasterYoda[edit]

Hi, thank you for your input. I created the page after noticing that all the chasers listed on this page for the UK and Australian versions of the show had individual entries. This includes, for example, this entry: for an Australian "chaser" who has no credits other than this one. Almost none of the chasers from other international versions have individual entries, though (with only 2 exceptions -- based on which criteria?). In Germany, the local version is one of the most popular game shows on TV, with 2 to 3 million viewers per episode and a substantial social media following. All the chasers do, IMHO, qualify for notability in the "Entertainer" category (as laid out in, since they have appeared on multiple TV shows on major German networks and even outside of Germany (similar to the appearances of the UK/Australian chasers). They have also won acclaim in quiz activities on an international level (European and World Championships), which clearly justifies entries in language versions other than German. On top, some of them have achieved notability in fields outside of quizzing and TV entertainment as well (i.e. fields of science and literature). This draft was created by me as a "test balloon," meaning that -- once this article is improved, which I hope it will -- I intend to add individual articles for all other German chasers as well (except for Holger Waldenberger, who already has an entry), based on their respective entries in the German version. I would very much appreciate your reconsideration in terms of fairness across the international versions of "The Chase". Thank you. JedimasterYoda (talk) 09:46, 29 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

JedimasterYoda - I'm afraid I'm no longer involved in Articles for Creation but if you resubmit your draft, a reviewer will take a look. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 13:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hope you are well, KJP1? This is just to let you know, that—if you're still interested (and/or sadomasochistic!)—the abbey is now up at FAC. Thanks for all your help getting it this far! Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 14:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles welcome there! Hope you're well!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Morning Dr. B - Yes, I am well, although in one of my occasional periods of low enthusiasm for Wiki. I hope you are keeping well too. I shall certainly bear the challenge in mind when creating new articles and wish you all the best with it. On a minor architecture point, I think one would really struggle to find sufficient sources for Grade II, as opposed to II*, buildings. Grade II* is hard enough! All the best. KJP1 (talk) 05:18, 11 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I think the lists by locality are the best way to cover them, but there'll be a few Grade II ones you can write a fuller article for. All depends on the sourcing of course.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:06, 11 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Illegal threat about legal threat!!!11![edit]

Hello, I was deeply upset by the recent comment you made about my sarcasm. I did not mean for the sarcasm to be so sarcastic that it was no longer interpreted as sarcasm by onlookers. I am afraid it is within my legal rights however as a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be able to enforce lawful action as I am a jury and also I am a lawyer and also I am a retired police superintendent and I will simply not stand for anti-semitics or racicicism. However, I am also a very corrupt, bad, retired police superintendent and will therefore never try and enforce any lawful action against my fellow Wikipedians. According to the Bible and the Qur'an I have, therefore, not broken any wikipedia rules, thus your illegal threat about threatening me with a ban for a legal threat threatening someone sarcastically who threatened to revoke my edit is perfectly and sarcastically justified! Good day, and God save our gracious Queen, Gentleman!

TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 15:42, 16 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My advice to you, TheBestEditorInEngland, is to lay off the sauce. CassiantoTalk 16:20, 16 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Noto Emoji KitKat 1f615.svg -me right now TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 16:25, 16 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sandringham House[edit]

Do you happen to know the page number, where Jenkins describes Sandringham’s interiors as Curzon Street Baroque? I need to ref the page and no longer have the book. Giano (talk) 21:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Giano - Done. KJP1 (talk) 04:51, 18 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Great help. Giano (talk) 07:15, 18 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tintern images[edit]

Thanks for your recent thumbs up. By chance I came across a set of splendid images on the Cadw site, all of which appear to be in WP Commons, and many of which look as if they would be suitable when you come to write up your architectural notes. There's a plan there and a reconstruction that look as if they might be useful too. All of us seem to have drawn away from the Tintern project since March for one reason or another - the only way I could get back into it was to ration myself to an hour or two's work on the sections I'd proposed for myself now and then. I'll do the art and lit next, once I can get all my notes into coherent order. Meanwhile, it seems Rodney Baggins got savaged by an Administrator and bolted down his hobbit hole, judging by his March correspondance. Other editors told him to trust your tested expertise (and leave well alone?) I've left him a note to say I was active again, which will hardly encourage him back! I'll look forward to seeing what you make of the Cadw material. Sweetpool50 (talk) 01:22, 1 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

II* list[edit]

I'm blowed if I can see what's causing the problems on that page. I've tried a few things in preview, but I either make it worse or no better. That's always the problem with those pre-formatted tables. I never used them, I just used the standard table formatting which doesn't come with bits hidden in the background that can go wrong. It may be worth finding out who wrote the original table and asking them directly. Cheers, and sorry not to have been of any help! - SchroCat (talk) 14:56, 1 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SchroCat - No worries, and thanks very much for looking. I shall revert to the last "correct" version, and then go very, very slowly! KJP1 (talk) 06:00, 2 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There's obviously one bit of coding that trips the whole thing up somewhere, so if you manage to isolate a smallish edit that triggers it, give me a shout and I'll have another look. Cherrs - SchroCat (talk) 06:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've been watching this discussion, and it struck me as an intriguing puzzle. Please look at the page now. If I understand correctly, the problem was with getting the references etc. to display properly after a certain point of adding more of them. I turned the page back to just before your last self-revert (the version where the edit history says the problem appeared), and then I WP:PURGEed the page. After I did that, the references reappeared. Do they look OK now? I'm guessing that the wiki software needs a lot of time to process the reference data within those templates, and consequently, if one looks too soon, it isn't finished rendering them. That seems to happen in preview, and when looking quickly between versions in the edit history. Maybe I misunderstand what the problem is, so if so, sorry. But if that's what it was, maybe this is the fix. There is still a mysterious link to some template at the very bottom of the page, but I think the refs look alright now. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:53, 2 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I also see that the page is in the hidden category Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good news: I solved that part by substituting (adding "subst:" at the beginning of the template name) the first of the two templates at the bottom of the page. Bad news: it only works if you eliminate Template:Monmouthshire at the end of the page. A lot of the problems that you are having are because there are simply too many templates on the page for the software to parse, and that's a limit that you cannot exceed (set centrally by Media Wiki), and the only solution it to use fewer templates. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tryptofish - I don't pretend for a moment to understand what you've done, but I'm very glad you did it! It was driving me mad, and your poking in the innards with a wiki screwdriver appears to have sorted it. I shall now happily progress with the, rather dull, task of adding the access dates, and the, rather less dull but more time-consuming task, of taking yet another trip to Wales to hunt down the last eight missing photos, writing the articles, and pushing it to FLC. It's only taken six years so far. And to think we did Sissinghurst in a couple of months. Hope you're keeping well, and thanks again. KJP1 (talk) 16:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm so glad! To tell you the truth, I don't think I really understand it either. But I think the bottom line is that the problems result from having a large number of templates on the page. If you encounter problems again, or if you want to add back Template:Monmouthshire at the bottom of the page, please let me know. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:30, 3 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just a suggestion: I think the "upload another image" links beneath each picture should be removed or be made non-displaying. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tryptofish - Help!!!! I go and put the rest of the access-dates in, and it does the bloody thing again. First that weird nav template appears, then the Sources go, then the References. Any chance you could poke it - violently - with your screwdriver to make it behave. Thanks in advance. KJP1 (talk) 16:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bad news: The screwdriver that I used last time does not work anymore.
Good news: I think I know what the problem is.
Bad news: The problem is that you are using too many templates on the page. And the only way to fix the problem is to get rid of the templates, and make it a simple table using wiki markup. As far as I can tell, it's your only viable option.
More bad news: It's going to be a massive job, and I don't want to do it, so you will have to do it.
Good news: Here is how to do it. It's actually pretty simple, just very time consuming.
Here is the markup, just as you see it now when you are editing, of the top of the first row of the big table in the Buildings section:

{{Cadw listed building header
{{Cadw listed building row
| name = [[Upper Dyffryn House, Grosmont|Upper Dyffryn House]]
| location = [[Grosmont, Monmouthshire|Grosmont]]

OK, so that should look familiar to you from editing the page. Now, I'm going to take the same thing, and make one change:

{{Cadw listed building header
{{subst:Cadw listed building row
| name = [[Upper Dyffryn House, Grosmont|Upper Dyffryn House]]
| location = [[Grosmont, Monmouthshire|Grosmont]]

You can see that what I did was put subst: just before where it says: "Cadw listed building row". That's the change you have to make, but you will have to do it for every row of the table. You don't have to do it all in a single edit. You can just do a few rows (or as many or few as you want), and save after each edit. (By the way, to show this on your talk page, I put in a whole lot of "code, nowiki" stuff that only shows up when you edit. You should not add any of that when you actually edit the page.)
After you save the edit, the page should look exactly the same. But when you go back into the edit screen, what you see there will have changed, a lot. Instead of the simple template syntax row by row, the rows that you have "substituted" will have changed into regular table format. But you should still be able to find each bit of information (like name, location, and so forth) that you have in the table, just with more "software stuff" surrounding it.
And for the next edit, just look until you find the next place where it still says "Cadw listed building row", and repeat until you have done the entire table. If you want to add more lines to the table, no problem: you can just add them using the "Cadw listed building row" template, save, and then do the substitution again.
I think that will solve the problem. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tryptofish - Really appreciate the time you've taken. And what's another year, on top of the six I've spent on this already! :-) KJP1 (talk) 21:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tryptofish - It worked! And less laborious than I'd imagined. Now I just need to follow your instructions to remove that "Upload another image" text. Very many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 09:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's great! And removing the upload image stuff should be just a matter of deleting it, because it's easy to see in the expanded format. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Backlog Banzai[edit]

In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open[edit]

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note to self - Wolvesnewton church and cross need standalone articles[edit]

see above. KJP1 (talk) 22:04, 1 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Sorry, I rolled back your comment on WT:FAC. Apologies, it was an accident. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 17:20, 3 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lee Vilenski - Lee, no worry at all but thanks for letting me know. Hope you are keeping well. KJP1 (talk) 17:28, 3 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your help![edit]

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A little belated, but thanks again for your help in getting Peter Muhlenberg Memorial to GA status! Rockhead126 (talk) 14:34, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jim is planning to run this at TFA in October. I'm completely out of my league with this blurb. You're welcome to give it a shot if you like. The lead needs to be condensed to 925 to 1025 characters of visible text (not edit-window text). This is a character-counter website. I can handle any technical requirements (such as starting off with a bolded link). - Dank (push to talk) 11:54, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dank - Thanks for letting me know and no problem, I'll take a look at the blurb. I'm sure Jim will know that Wehwalt's got Chartwell down for the end of September. Two country houses in too close proximity? KJP1 (talk) 12:53, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Jim's thinking of 27 October. Does that work for you? - Dank (push to talk) 13:11, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dank - fine by me. Just didn't want the readers to get bored. The below is 963 characters. Will it do? Sorry, I've no idea where to place it. KJP1 (talk) 13:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sandringham House in Norfolk, England is the private home of Elizabeth II. Although architecturally undistinguished, Pevsner describing it as "frenetic Jacobean", the house has been a favoured residence of the Royal family for over 150 years.
The estate was bought in 1862 for Albert Edward, Prince of Wales. Between 1870 and 1900 the house was rebuilt and Edward developed the wider property into one of the best sporting estates in England. George V inherited in 1910 and in 1932 made the first ever Christmas broadcast from the house. George died at Sandringham on 20 January 1936. The property passed to his son Edward VIII; and at the abdication, it was purchased by Edward's brother, George VI. As devoted to the house as his father, he died there on 6 February 1952.
On the King's death, Sandringham was inherited by Elizabeth II. The Queen spends much of the winter at the house, including the anniversary of her father's death and of her own accession.
Thanks much, I'll stick it in my Sandbox/3 until Jim schedules it. - Dank (push to talk) 13:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced[edit]

G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sandringham House scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the Sandringham House article has been scheduled as today's featured article for October 27, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 27, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

For Featured Articles promoted on or after October 1, 2018, there will be an existing blurb linked from the FAC talk page, which is likely to be transferred to the TFA page by a coordinator at some point.

We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors up to the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

GAR of Bengal famine of 1943[edit]

Hello. This is spam, forgive me. I'm gonna go through various GAR/GA pages and look for people who appear active. All I'm asking for is a review, not asking for any specific outcome (i.e., not begging for a KEEP). The GAR is Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Bengal famine of 1943/1. If you review and Delist, that's OK, so long as it gets a meaningful review...

The article is big, detailed and has a terrible history in various Content Review forums. In fact, it has been residing in Content Review Hell for a couple years now... In return for a review (not a specific outcome) I'll do any kinda gnomish or research work you wish. Forex, I love converting inconsistent referencing into {{{sfn}}}, regardless of article size. I also help with all the errors that show up as described User:Lingzhi2/reviewsourcecheck. And so on. Thank you for reading this; forgive the intrusion. Cheers ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 04:41, 21 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lingzhi2 - I see Vami is helping you out. It's a large, and contentious, subject! KJP1 (talk) 08:24, 21 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Large, yes. Contentious, yes. But don't let that bother you. Your input is still valued... And even if you decide not to chime in, the offer still stands: need any gnomish work or research or whatever done, esp. w. respect to standardizing inconsistent refs to {{{sfn}}} or fixing refs, just ping me. I am at your service. Cheers. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 14:15, 21 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark[edit]

G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Interpolated responses[edit]

Please don't interpolate your replies as you have done at Talk:Chartwell, it makes it impossible for other editors to work out who said what, and when, and to whom. DuncanHill (talk) 15:31, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I have nominated Chartwell for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Kevin McE (talk) 18:42, 26 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have left a comment (with others) about how ridiculous the FAR is. It seems KevinMcE has 'form' for being obtuse and didactic on what he considers "flaws" on the front page, even when no-one agrees with him. - SchroCat (talk) 19:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Disagree by all means...[edit]

but do not delivberately misrepresent what I said at FAR. That is called lying. Kevin McE (talk) 07:34, 27 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As is claiming "It is evident that there is little interest here in creating anything properly encyclopaedic". That's an outright lie, as I'm sure everyone realises. - SchroCat (talk) 08:54, 27 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I wasn't talking to you, stop stalking me. Kevin McE (talk) 11:20, 27 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
More attacks against other editors? I am not stalking you, so knock off the habit of insulting everyone who disagrees with you. 1. KJP is on my watchlist; 2. This is an open talk page and everyone is entitled to comment; 3. If you are going to accuse another editor of lying, don’t be surprised if your own falsehoods are pointed out to you. Dial your neck in and stop being obnoxious to people for disagreeing with you. - SchroCat (talk) 11:29, 27 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Thank you for Chartwell, Winston Churchill's home for forty years and a Grade I listed building! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Very glad you both liked it. An oddly contentious journey to The Front Page! KJP1 (talk) 16:44, 29 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Belated. You dealt admirable in the lead up (have watchlisted and followed from the pre fac first edit). You conducted throughout With a calm head as always. Ceoil (talk) 14:03, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ceoil - Appreciated. It's just a shame some editors find a collegiate approach sooooo challenging! I shall try my very best to look in on the Infanta - love her hairdo - but am currently on a Southern Spain road trip. This morning was spent here, but the collection is a little too religious for my taste, although perhaps not for yours. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 18:19, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Enjoy the trip man, good time of the year to get away...its still raining in the British isles, in case your wondering. I mention the above because I came *this* close to reverting the first, ahem, copy-edit, but was later glad that I didnt, you addressed with considerable diplomacy and skill - the edit summary was flawless and dry to a tee. Dont worry about the infanta, if I am going to spend my goodwill with you it will be after x-mass with a certain Cork church on which I would really appreciate expert architectural input. And no I'm not religious, have been quite the opposite since was about 10, just really into iconography for reasons I dont understand. Ceoil (talk) 18:28, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Because it looks superb? - SchroCat (talk) 18:29, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh yeah, that's it! Now I cancel any further shrink sessions.Ceoil (talk) 18:32, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I always love hearing how bad the weather in the UK is, when I'm just about to head out to dinner - in 70 degree heat! KJP1 (talk) 18:36, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
p.s. The "Cork church" is intriguing. Which of the Master's oeuvre are you doing? I've most of the sources, although we still await the Cork Pevsner - soon! KJP1 (talk) 18:38, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, not one of His, Cork should be so lucky to have two; its the stones throw from Fin barr's Honan Chapel, which am working on with Liz and Guliolopez. Ceoil (talk) 18:41, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ps, 70 degrees. Madly jealous, and hate you right now. Ceoil (talk) 22:40, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you today for Sandringham House, "Likened to a "golf-hotel at St Andrews or a station-hotel at Strathpeffer", Sandringham House has had a poor architectural press. But it holds some interest, as the private home of all the 20th century British monarchs, and the scene of the deaths of two of them. A Grade II* listed building, Sandringham is a modern rarity, a fully-functioning Victorian country house and estate surviving into the early 21st century."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gerda Arendt - Gerda, many thanks. Hope you liked it. KJP1 (talk) 16:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Apfelbaum und Pappeln, Ehrenbach.jpg
... with thanks from QAI
Yes, I did! - I have a peer review open, DYK? Clara Schumann, 60 years of recitals, and what a life! - Places: I had a GA this year, Unionskirche, Idstein. See my talk today for great music that we sang yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:57, 27 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Today, I am proud of a great woman on the Main page, Márta Kurtág, finally, who has several things in common with Schumann! - Here's my ideal candidate for arbcom. - I added a FAC for Christmas, just open whicih year ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 3 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

TFL notification[edit]

Hi, KJP1. I'm just posting to let you know that Grade I listed buildings in Monmouthshire – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for November 22. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:26, 25 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Giants2008 - How very pleasing. Thanks for letting me know. I've made a small tweak to the blurb, for accuracy. I hope this is ok. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 10:04, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The copy-edit looks fine. Cheers. Giants2008 (Talk) 15:19, 27 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Where the hell did that come from? I pointed out that there was content in the lead, and therefore included in the blurb, that was not apparently supported by the body of the article. Kevin McE (talk) 5:43 pm, 6 October 2019, Sunday (20 days ago) (UTC+1)

As your personality compels you to have the last word, you might try having something worthwhile to say. KJP1 (talk) 10:11 pm, 6 October 2019, Sunday (20 days ago) (UTC+1)
How can asking a question amount to wanting the last word? And are you going to have the last word by providing a relevant answer to it? Kevin McE (talk) 5:03 pm, 11 October 2019, Friday (15 days ago) (UTC+1)

I'm beginning to think that you are not. Is that because you feel no need to justify your comments, and rather just launch a diatribe in the hope that you won't be held to account for it? Kevin McE (talk) 12:30, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Kevin McE, stop trolling. There is nothing constructive in this post and if KJP hasn't answered you before, he's unlikely to do so in reponse to your rather aggressive post here. Stick drop, away go. - SchroCat (talk) 14:25, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If somebody flings mud at me publicly, and is not willing to defend his/her actions when challenged to do so, then it is perfectly reasonable to ask them to do so in a less public forum.
It is not reasonable for you to decide on KJP's behalf whether he/she has enough integrity to defend him/herself, and censor my wish to challenge that conduct.
So, KJP, are you willing to stand up for your comments, or simply hope that your spite has been forgotten? Kevin McE (talk) 14:44, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
More trolling? Throwing insults at others (by questioning their integrity) will earn you a short trip to ANI if you continue. Drop the stick and walk away. - SchroCat (talk) 14:47, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Kevin McE, Even if I were minded to reply, I would struggle as your post contains no intelligible question. But it's quite clear you're just continuing to troll. KJP1 (talk) 14:56, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My feeling is that their is more than trolling going on here. But as long as the attacks are wantonness and directionless vents against spoken English in general, lets l;eave them for what they are. Kevin often makes good points, but they are weighed down by an usually abrasive and bitter personality, and thus nobody is listening. Suggest the best tactic for now is to not be distracted and keep on adding content; which I suspect he is a bad hand account angling against. Either that or he has the maturity level of a 10 year old. Ceoil (talk) 16:24, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ceoil - Very good advice, which for my part I'm very willing to accept. KJP1 (talk) 16:49, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So a person who makes spiteful posts is not willing to defend his comments, and has equally spiteful friends. No real surprise. Kevin McE (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kevin, No-one is going to your talk page and being nasty to you. Do everyone a favour and stop trolling people. Ceoil has suggested that you may have the maturity level of a 10 year old: please at least try to prove him wrong, because that's just how you're coming across at the moment. - SchroCat (talk) 18:23, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed. There are easy and hard ways to accomplish goals; assuming every body else is up to trickery and needs humiliation leads to a hard, lonely path, and has no place on a collaborative project. Ceoil (talk) 19:16, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To reiterate my original point, KJP1 is straight up one of the kindest, polite, good hearted and most generous editors on wiki; to see him baited like this is, well. Ceoil (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For promoting Sandringham to FA. Great job! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just to pile on, well done with Sandringham. It's lovely to see it featured, and it seems to be surviving its rash of edits quite well so far! Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:15, 27 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Many thanks indeed to you both. Yes, the path to TFA and its day in the sun, have been somewhat easier than Chartwell's - so far! Fingers crossed. Hope you are both keeping well. All best wishes. KJP1 (talk) 10:14, 27 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Merry Christmas![edit]

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May 2020 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls, vandals or visits from Krampus!

All the best

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SchroCat - We should be so bloody lucky. But all best wishes to you and yours for Christmas and the coming year. KJP1 (talk) 11:10, 22 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merry Christmas[edit]

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Hi KJP1, wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a happy New Year. Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this year
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Kosack - Many thanks. And all best wishes to you and yours. KJP1 (talk) 11:09, 22 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nadolig Llawen[edit]