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A barnstar for you![edit]

The Instructor's Barnstar
This Barnstar is awarded to Wikipedians who have performed stellar work in the area of instruction & help for other editors.
Nick, I am absolutely in love with your contributions and work dedicated to the Teahouse. Your help for newbies is truly inspiring, and you are one of the editors who makes me proud to call myself a Wikipedian. ––FormalDude talk 07:10, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@FormalDude Thanks you so much - that's extraordinarily kind of you.Cheers! Nick Moyes (talk) 13:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thankyou sir for helping people I’m proud of you sir thankyou sir god is always here godbless sir thankyou verry much godbless 🙂❤️🙏🙏🙏 (talk) 03:12, 10 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks iam great ful Dray truly (talk) 09:33, 30 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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The Wiki Show YouTube channel[edit]

Hi Nick, I would be interested in your opinion on the YouTube channel, The Wiki Show. I watched some of their videos and I was very impressed with the way they explained Wikipedia's policies and core features despite having very little edits. I wish more experienced editors and administrators provide video tutorials on this subject. I would be interested if you would recommend this channel to new Wikipedia users who are learning the ropes of editing. I value your feedback. Interstellarity (talk) 15:27, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just to remind you that you haven't responded to my post for a while since I posted it. I understand if you are busy, but I'm hoping you didn't forget about it. Interstellarity (talk) 00:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Bida thomas (13:30, 5 October 2022)[edit]

How can I get an article published? --Bida thomas (talk) 13:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there Bida thomas. What is the subject you would like to write about? It looks like you've already tried to write an AUTOBIOGRAPHY about yourself, and had it deleted. Every topic here must meet our Notability criteria, which means that other people (not connected with that subject) must already have written about it in detail and in depth. You can't use your own blogs or websites - or indeed anyone's personal blogs or websites for that). For people, the criteria are found HERE, and for companies, HERE. It is one of the hardest tasks to create a Wikipedia article from scratch that meets our criteria, and further advice can be found HERE.
It is good that you have been learning how Wikipedia works by making small edits to existing articles. This is the best way to work out how things operate here, as there are lots of guidelines and policies which can confuse a beginner. I would point out that you must not add inline links to external websites in the body of text in an article (as you did here). Instead, you should cite them properly, please, by adding an inline citation to that source at the end of each statement you insert. See WP:REFBEGIN for how to do that. And when you quote someone, it is essential to add the citation immediately afterwards to help people check that what you say they said, was actually reported in precisely those words. In all other situations you should add content in your own words, and not copy/paste anything from copyrighted publications. I hope this helps, and good luck on your Wikipedia journey. You can reply or ask further questions here if you wish, or ask 24/7 for immediate help at the TEAHOUSE. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:26, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you able to see an article I write before I submit for review for possible publication? Bida thomas (talk) 16:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes. Everything that anyone writes here is visible to everyone (if you know where to look). All yours are HERE. But as an administrator, I am also able to view deleted contributions, such as the biography you tried to write about yourself. If you genuinely feel you have a notable topic that you want to make an article about, then your best approach is to start a 'Draft' article using the Wizard at Articles for Creation and only submit it when you feel it is ready to be reviewed. Then, one of our volunteers will check it out and leave you feedback if they don't think it is ready yet and will need more work.
Would you like to tell be the subject you want to create an article about and perhaps link to what you believe are the three best sources that you would want to use to show it is a notable topic? I'll gladly give you a few comments as to whether the sources you want to use are appropriate. As mentioned above, personal blogs, social media, personal interviews with the subject, press releases and individual websites are not suitable to demonstrate notability. Wikipedia simply summarises what other independent people have already written about that subject. So books, magazines, and websites with proper editorial oversight are normally needed. Geographical features and species are less of an issue and are usually automatically notable. Just let me know and I'll see if I can guide you. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:26, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bida thomas Oops. I forgot to 'ping' you so that you knew I'd replied to you. Easy mistake, as I simply missed off including your username in my reply here. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:28, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes, for example, I would like to write about the following:
  1. Nelson Kwaje
2. DEFY HATE NOW (DHN), South Sudanese NNGO
3. Myself (Emmanuel Bida Thomas) Bida thomas (talk) 16:45, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello @Nick Moyes,
Hope you have been able to see my reply.
What do you think? Bida thomas (talk) 13:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also created User:Nazi boy 031. User:Rowrly edited Police forces of Nazi Germany with almost the same edit as Nazi boy 021 at article Sobek

Hope that makes sense. Knitsey (talk) 23:36, 10 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Knitsey: Thanks. I've added the user domain to your links (above), though I can't find any registered user with the name Nazi boy 031. Perhaps you could check and monitor their activity yourself, then report to WP:AIV, if they continue. I'll monitor Rowrly and warn or block them if they edit in that way again. Cheers Nick Moyes (talk) 12:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm a numpty. I didn't link them correctly. Where is the eye roll emoticon when you need it. Thank you. Knitsey (talk) 12:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]

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Question from Hhaiderhhabib (12:39, 24 October 2022)[edit]

i need a make a new wikipedia page for a marketing personality --Hhaiderhhabib (talk) 12:39, 24 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello there, Hhaiderhhabib and thanks for dropping by. Creating an article from scratch is the very hardest thing any editor can do - and many times more so if that user is like you and has never edited Wikipedia before. I advise against trying until you have learned the basics.
The key thing to understand is that Wikipedia is not here to help you promote businesses or people (see WP:PROMOTION) and that no article would be permitted if that person is not deemed 'notable' by our criteria. You should follow this shortcut and read WP:NBIO, which lays put precisely the criteria that we need to meet 'notability'. To save you a lot of heartache, why not drop by again and let me know the name of the person and leave me the three best Reliable Sources that talk about that person in detail and in depth in an independent manner.
If you are unable to do that then I'm afraid you would simply be wasting your time trying. But if you think there would be a chance of them meeting our notability criteria, you might then want to read "Your First Article" for further advice, and follow this link to read about your obligations to declare any conflict of interest you might have if that person is paying you, or you know them personally. Hope that helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:29, 24 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Calle5916 (01:21, 27 October 2022)[edit]

hello how do i become good at making jokes fir wickapidie --Calle5916 (talk) 01:21, 27 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Question from Hhaiderhhabib on User:Hhaiderhhabib (08:27, 8 November 2022)[edit]

how can i move the picture to the top --Hhaiderhhabib (talk) 08:27, 8 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @Hhaiderhhabib. You did not give me a link to the page you want to edit and change, so it's hard to give you detailed advice unless you do.
Normally, just putting the file name you want to see at the top of a page, or a section within a page will do it. You then can choose whether to have it on the left, centre, or right. You can read more about placing pictures at Help:Pictures. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Question from GeckoGamer4444 (20:34, 1 December 2022)[edit]

Hello Nick how do you start a new wiki page about a company? --GeckoGamer4444 (talk) 20:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi GeckoGamer4444. Thanks for your question, and welcome to Wikipedia! I can point you straight away to the most important policy which may help you work out whether or not it would be possible for a company to have an article about it on Wikipedia. You can find it HERE and it lists our notability criteria for businesses. To be frank with you, Wikipedia is not here to help a business promote itself but, if you can find at least three totally independent sources that talk about that company in details and in depth, then it might well meet our criteria. Those sources exclude paid advertising, press releases, newswire articles, blogs, interviews with connected people, and the company's own website. If you can't find any, then I'm afraid you've absolutely no chance. It's as simple as that.
To save you wasted effort, feel free to link me to those three sources you identify, and I will take a quick look at them for you. Then, if they seem OK, I would point you to this guidance page which all new editors should read. But be aware that creating a brand new draft article from scratch is the very, very hardest thing anyone can do here - and that applies much more so for inexperienced editors. So we always advise people to get experience first and to contribute many smaller edits across a range of existing articles first to try to get the hang of how things work here.
Finally, should you work for, are being paid by that business to create an article, you must declare that connection and who is paying you before you start any editing. See WP:PAID for our mandatory policy on how to do this. If you are the business owner, their friend or relative, then you still have a Conflist of Interest which you should also declare.
We regularly find ourselves deleting new pages that are effectively spam articles, solely written in order to promote a business, without any good sources to back up their claim for notability.
I hope this helps. Feel free to follow up with any other questions. And 'good luck'! Nick Moyes (talk) 22:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Abdul Jamal Ibrahim (15:04, 5 December 2022)[edit]

Hello! Can I write and publish a biography of someone who is well recognized in my country or Region? After my research on his/her life history and achievements, I wanted to know how to get Started. Please🙏 --Abdul Jamal Ibrahim (talk) 15:04, 5 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @Abdul Jamal Ibrahim, and welcome to Wikipedia. You ask a good question, but it has no easy answer. Firstly, does your own language Wikipedia have an article about this person? If so, that is a really good start, and it may help you identify published sources that write about that person in an independent manner. If not, why not? Here on English Wikipedia, we need evidence that a person has been written about, but not by themselves or on private blogs, but by proper, reliable sources. Our 'notability criteria', which must be met if there is to be an article about them, can be found at WP:NBIO. However, those sources do not need to be in English.
Please be aware that creating a new article that is acceptable here is the very hardest task anyone can perform - much more so for a newcomer. You might wish to read is guidance page for beginners wanting to create a new article, and spend some time here learning how Wikipedia editing works before attempting the challenging task of creating a new article. Of course, should you be connected with the person you want to write about, you would need to declare that connection before you started work here. More advice on that can be found at this page: WP:COI.
If you want to let me know their name, and give me some sources to look at, I can offer you a guess as to how likely you would be at successfully starting a new article. Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:19, 6 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks Mentor @Nick Moyes for this clear explanation. Please About my own profile page,is it recommended to write my own biography. How should I handle this one please. Abdul Jamal Ibrahim (talk) 10:08, 6 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, @Abdul Jamal Ibrahim, thanks for acknowledging my response to you. I'm glad it was clear.
The only 'biography' you should put on your own userpage is something that very simply explains why you're interested in editing Wikipedia. Maybe a line or two about your background to help people understand your experience in editing or contributing in a particular field. For your own privacy and safety, it should not reveal any personally identifying information, but it absolutely must not look like a LinkedIn profile, nor appear like a Wikipedia entry - that kind of content gets deleted pretty quickly. The following would be perfectly acceptable, and I offer it purely as a demonstration for you to consider:
"Hello, my name is Abdul Jamal Ibrahim. I live in Malaysia where I studied economics, but now work in public relations. I have a life-long interest in steam trains and plan to make improvements to articles about the transport system in my country. I will not be writing about any of the companies I work for, as I appreciate this would be a conflict of interest. As I'm a brand new editor, please let me know on my talk page if any of my edits fail to follow Wikipedia's guidelines, as I'm keen to learn to do things the best way."
You don't have to say as much as this, but personally I find it helps me to understand the motivations of new editors. If someone takes the trouble to say why they're here, and what their interests are, then more experienced editors tend to be far more willing to explain things if they get them wrong. (Oh, making mistakes and being corrected can put some people off, or make them angry, but it's how we work and learn here.) I do hope you like it! Have you checked your 'Homepage' tab yet? - there are various small user tasks available for you to try editing and to help you understand how to make small improvements. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 11:03, 6 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you very much for taking your time to make things clear for me. Abdul Jamal Ibrahim (talk) 11:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Blood Hound956 (07:30, 11 December 2022)[edit]

How do you extend an article which doesn’t have much information --Blood Hound956 (talk) 07:30, 11 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hello, Blood Hound956, and welcome to Wikipedia. That's a really great question, and one that can be answered fairly easily. (Had you told me the article title I might have been able to help you more effectively, of course.)
Think of Wikipedia as simply a collation of factual statements written in a neutral manner that have already been published elsewhere by Reliable Sources. Finding those published sources and using statements within them to extend an article is your first big challenge. Some degree of ability in using search engines is really helpful, here. But sources don't have to be online pages. Books, major newspapers and magazines and anything properly published and available through a library or bookshop is quite acceptable (even if not in English).
Things you happen to know (even if true) and stuff written on social media or blog posts by individuals are not regarded as reliable, however. Nor are the words written by a person who is the subject of an article. So you can't extend and article with that type of information I'm afraid.
Then, using your own form of words (i.e. not copy/pasting what someone else has written), you add factual statements into an article and support it with a citation. (the editing tool has a 'CITE' button for adding a reference to a source. Unsourced additions tend to be reverted, so citations are really important.
It follows that if you are unable to find any published sources you will not be able to extend that article, even if you happen to be an expert on that subject, or know the person, place or business you want to write about really well.
Let me know how you get on, or link me to the article, and I'll see if I can find anything for you should you hit a dead end. I'll also drop by your talk page and leave you a welcome message with links to get you started with editing. It's wise to start slowly as there's quite a steep learning curve on Wikipedia. Think of it like driving a car - start slowly and gently, making sure you follow the key rules of the road. Don't speed off on your first day and crash the car into a wall tends to put you off! And if someone with more experience tells you you've made a mistake and they revert what you've done, think about it from their perspective for a moment, and check if they've left an explanation in an WP:Edit Summary. If you can't see why they've undone your edit, it's quite OK to politely ask them to explain it to you. Good luck, and regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:40, 11 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi Nick. I just wanted to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year 2023. Colman2000 (talk) 03:28, 23 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, Colman2000. May I wish you and your family the same. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:02, 23 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi, I noticed that you were recently active and was wondering if you could help me with something. I just reviewed a pending change on the page I linked to above, but as I did it, I edit conflicted with an IP, and I think it made the page go weird. Can you please have a look and check I’ve done it right? Thanks. Blanchey (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:00, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Blanchey Thanks. I've restored it to the version by Ealdgyth. I'll leave a non-templated personal note for the IP editor shortly. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:10, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you again for helping. Blanchey (talk) 23:17, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]

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Question from Mrdeadflim (03:06, 8 January 2023)[edit]

Aye, is it okay if i create page --Mrdeadflim (talk) 03:06, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Mrdeadflim. You can create a new encyclopaedia page, providing the topic meets our Notability Guidelines. But doing so from nothing is the very hardest tak anyone can perform here. It is far better to start slowly by making small improvements to existing articles and learning how we operate here. Do read this page to learn more about starting one.
You can also create a new page as part of your userpage, providing it is relevant to the work of helping to build and maintain this encyclopaedia. I see you have already created one (User:Mrdeadflim/sandbox)). Please don't try to add more content like that, as it's not really appropriate to talk about non-Wikipedia stuff. But your sandbox is the best place to experiment in editing and creating draft articles. You can start work on a new article by using the 'Article Wizard' which you can find HERE.Hope this answers your question. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:18, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Hhaiderhhabib (06:23, 9 January 2023)[edit]

Nick im not able tp publish my wikipedia page and i deleted a lot of unverified references can you help --Hhaiderhhabib (talk) 06:23, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello again, Hhaiderhhabib. I am not at all sure what help you are asking for. Are you Omar Gull, and are you trying to write about yourself? If so, that would have been why your userpage was deleted, as we don't permit Wikipedia userpages to resemble articles.
I notice you have also submitted Draft:Omar Gull, which was declined at 'Articles for Creation'. What you wrote looked like someone either wanting to promote themselves here, or paying someone else to do the promotion for them. If you are that person, or if they are paying you, then you have a clear Conflict of Interest, and must declare that you are being paid, and by whom, before you continue editing. See WP:PAID for guidance on how to do that.
You did right to delete any references which are mere mentions of a person. If a citation doesn't verify any stated facts, then that citation generally has no place in the article. They do not count towards 'notability' - see WP:NBIO for what our notability criteria involves for people.
We see far too many CEO and entrepreneurs trying to get articles about themselves on Wikipedia based only on citations to insider business magazines or interviews. Neither are acceptable, so unless independent mainstream media has written about someone in detail and in depth, then they are highly unlikely to be able to have an article about themselves here. If the company they run, or the product they created does have an article here, then it is probably acceptable for a WP:REDIRECT to exist from their name to that product or business, but no more. Does that help to explain things for you? Nick Moyes (talk) 10:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Regarding my draft Draft:Adil Qadri[edit]

Hello @Nick Moyes, I am not an experienced in wikipedia but i am trying to learn about it. Just needed your assistance on the draft i started Draft:Adil Qadri. Thank you Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 11:30, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Alizulfikarzahedi Your draft is fairly well laid out. A few minor things like wrong capitalisation on things like 'Perfume' and 'december', but it looked fairly well done for a new editor. You have two links to perfume, the second one of which is incorrect. But as there should only ever be one wikilink to another article per page, you should simply remove that second lik.
However, the major problem I see is the sources which do not demonstrate to me that Qadri meets our Notability Criteria. We see so many draft articles intended to promote entrepreneurs, and require better sources than business news articles. If his company is notable (see WP:NCORP, it's possible that a WP:REDIRECT from his name to that company would be acceptable. You may submit it to WP:AFC for review, but I doubt they would say anything different. So it would be best to look for more independent sources or wait because it is WP:TOOSOON. I have added a submit button to your article, but don't advise you to do so until you've worked on it more. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:26, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes Thanks for your reply Nick. I think the sources are present such as one on khaleej times.[7]and[8] [9], others. is it possible that it meets Notability Criteria. Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 12:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Alizulfikarzahedi My own view is that they're not - they are still insider business stories, and not real journalism reporting on a genuinely notable person. What makes you so keen to create such an article? Are you being paid or employed to promote him? If so, you should declare this WP:COI on your user page. I see that repeated attempts were made to create a page for him on Simple Wikipedia, but were deleted on the grounds of lack of notability. Does he have a page about him on his own language Wiki? That might be the place to try, rather than here, where our notability criteria are quite tough. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
By the way: what is this picture that you uploaded to Commons of? There is no description, just a random file name. It doesn't link to any page and seems to serve no purpose. If it's of you, then you should clearly indicate this fact. If not, I would advocate its deletion. regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:35, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My picture. yes Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 13:38, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes just got to know about him while going through the news so created draft and reached out to you if there are any problems Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 13:37, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK. You should properly label your photograph asap, or it is liable to be removed as irrelevant to Wikipedia. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:55, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
yes i requested the renaming. Thanks Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 14:05, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Regarding article i want to work on[edit]

Hello @Nick Moyes sorry for the ping again, but i have one article that i want to work on "Fort Munro Steel Bridge" which seem to be Notable as well. Can you do your research and work with me on this one? Best Regards Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Alizulfikarzahedi No, I'm sorry: I'm only prepared to work on articles that directly interest me for one reason or another (usually mountains, mountaineers or wildllife). However, if you do the initial research yourself and show me some references that you believe make the subject Notable, I will happily look at them. If not immediately notable in its own right, you'd be OK to add something to the article on Fort Munro with few worries. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:55, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
sure. I will work on the article and will get back to you when i have some initial content. thanks Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 14:59, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes Draft:Fort Munro Steel Bridge, you can see the draft here. Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 15:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK - good luck (the videos of the bridge look amazing). You might want to read WP:NOINDICSCRIPT, as I think this will apply to the infobox. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes the bridge is amazing, got to visit a few times. The view is scenic from the top. Will read the WP:NOINDICSCRIPT. Thanks again Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 16:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes Hi, i have published the steel bridge draft into the mainspace Fort Munro Steel Bridge. Have a look. Thanks Alizulfikarzahedi (talk) 22:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Happy New Years![edit]

Happy new year! Have a great 2023! BloxyColaSweet (talk) 04:34, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Revoke TPA[edit]

Could you revoke the TPA of 2600:100C:B235:97B6:E908:ADBE:CA90:D9DE? They clearly aren't going to use it right. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:22, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Blaze Wolf Sorted! (I had a minor panic as I thought I'd drastically reduced their original block by removing TPA - but it was fine). Nick Moyes (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:31, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Bida thomas (13:20, 14 January 2023)[edit]

Good day, Mentor. Have you seen any of my recent pages? What are your thoughts? --Bida thomas (talk) 13:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bida thomas Which pages do you think are most ready for me to look at, and on which you'd like feedback? Nick Moyes (talk) 19:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
here they are: User talk:Bida thomas#Links to draft articles Bida thomas (talk) 14:06, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bida thomas That list is a bit of a mess, and I've not the time to work through them all - sorry. Please list me your top two for me to look at, but only after you have addressed the feedback you received (such as no external links in the article text), and I'll see what I can do. Please then tell me what you think are the issues you're struggling with in each one. Is it style and formatting, if so please look through WP:MOS, noting you need the subject in bold in the first sentence. References need better details (titles for each one, date if available, and do on). Hope this helps. In haste, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:02, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Cool. I will do that and share. Thank you Bida thomas (talk) 15:05, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from SourMango77 (02:00, 15 January 2023)[edit]

Hi, I was wondering how you reference a letter? I tried using the format in but I couldn't get it to work. Also, the letter I'm referencing doesn't have a subject, which I realise is required. After reading about that exact issue, I couldn't understand what some of the users were doing to fix the issue. --SourMango77 (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@SourMango77 It's always a good idea to practice using your personal sandbox for difficult edits (see the link at the top of every page in desktop view). This is especially sensible when trying to use templates for citations or tables. These are both tricky things to get right. I don't see that you've made any edits yet, so it's impossible for me to understand what you've been trying to do or help you fix it. Be aware that you can't reference an unpublished letter - it must be something that anyone can theoretically find with access to a decent library or internet.
The format shown in {{Cite letter}} uses our 'source code which WP:Source Editor uses. If you are trying to edit using Visual Editor the code is automatically inserted for you, though I don't think 'Cite letter' is available as it's an unusual one to be using.
I would temporarily copy the text I want to improve into my sandbox and work on it there. I'd also copy the 'References' section of any page becasue the code that's hidden within it forces your inline citations to be summarised under that section. The text you'd pest in on consecutive lines would be
Let me have a link to an example of what you're trying to do and I'll see if I can help you further. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:33, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from AdidasZRO (18:54, 15 January 2023)[edit]

Hi! Noticed that I was assigned under you as a mentor, and I'm starting out in creating my first article. Right now it's in my sandbox, and was wondering if you'd like to review/suggest any new article tips? Link: Thanks! --AdidasZRO (talk) 18:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there, @AdidasZRO, great to hear from you. You look to have done a pretty good job with that draft, and it looks ready for submission for review at WP:AFC. The only thing I've not done is look at your references to determine whether or not it meets our notability criteria for businesses and organisations. Obviously, this is a key thing, but there are simply too many of them for me to do that task quickly. If you want me to look at that, just identify the three most significant references that are independent of the subject. My gut feeling is that it probably is a notable organisation, so I could suggest you submit it whenever you're ready.
On a different note, what was the outcome of suggestions that you might change your account name. Something so close to Adidas ZERO is always going to flag people's concerns. If it's an innocent (fan-like) name, why not put a sentence about it on your userpage to explain why you chose it, and refute any promotional connections. Hope this helps - and well done, again. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:13, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Appreciate the prompt reply! @Nick Moyes. Yes, on the draft, I think that was an area of concern (notability criteria). I did look thoroughly where I could on independent citations and found for organizations such as NY Times, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Tricky, because many mentions are fairly brief when it comes to the overall purpose of this org.
On the name, thanks for the reminder. My main goal was to include a name incorporating an 'A to Z' pattern, but actually think I can revise in a way that avoids promotional connection. Was delayed in that update, but will get that done! Thanks, AdidasZRO (talk) 21:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I have faced similar problems with articles I've wanted to create. I decided to wait until there was more mainstream media coverage available. The problem with government agencies/charities and so on is that they rarely get detailed analysis in the media, and thus may do fantastic work on a big scale. But if they've not been written about in sources, then they don't meet our notability criteria.
BTW: I just noticed two of your citations hyperlinks are faulty. For the HYTimes (ref 4) and another to the Washington Post, you only included a url to their homepage, not to the article. I suggest you go through and check that every cited reference actually leads to the article in question. Must dash... Nick Moyes (talk) 22:02, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AdidasZRO Oops, forgot to 'ping' you. Not sure if you've added my page to your Watchlist. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:19, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes Oh thanks, I appreciate those catches, they were tricky to get right. @. Now added your page to the watchlist. AdidasZRO (talk) 02:35, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just in case the minutiae of editor interaction interest you: The convention here is that if anyone leaves a message on someone's talk page, they're expected to 'watch' that person's page - at least for the life of that conversation. (You can select the duration, rather than watch it permanently, which helps). Of course, new users don't know this, so I always try to WP:PING the person when I reply. But I forgot this time, so had to leave an extra message that did notify you. Another tip is that you can't simply edit a reply you've already published which left out a name or signature insert it, hoping it will 'ping' or notify that person...their name and your signature have to be included at the same time it's published, or it won't work. Using the reply tool saves one having to manually add a signature, but one still has to 'mention' them by typing the '@' sign and selecting their name from the dropdown list.
Oh, and you can select whether or not you want to get an email each time you have an edit made to your own userpage (which I find really useful). Yo can change what you get notified about by going to 'Preferences>Notifications' and altering the selections.
Because you've said you've added this page to your watchlist for the time being, I thought I wouldn't 'ping' you as normal, and see if you spot this edit. I tend to skim through my watchlist every other day to see if there are changes to pages I'm interested in, or if there are pages I no longer want to monitor. Hope you find these little tips of interest. If you do, we even have Tip of the Day to alert people to tricks and shortcuts when editing. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:24, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Bida thomas (09:36, 18 January 2023)[edit]

Good day, Nick, at your convenience, please check my latest draft and advice accordingly: Draft:Dr. John Garang Mausoleum --Bida thomas (talk) 09:36, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I also have a second draft here: Draft:Alex Lodiong Sakor Eyobo
Thank you for your time. Bida thomas (talk) 10:50, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you![edit]

The Special Barnstar
For helping me with stubs in the past! BloxyColaSweet (talk) 21:56, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

TEA discussion by new user[edit]

At WP:TEA#How do I stop a member from harassing me and posting vague threats on my talk page?, you are the subject of Reservationsatdorsia's inquiry and complaint. (FWIW, I don't know if you saw this edit.) — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:00, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there Fourthords. Thanks for dropping by with that 'heads up'. There was no harassment or threats made by me, and the editor was blocked by another admin at exactly the same time I was leaving them polite messages asking them to tone down their insults and aggression at the Vector200 talk page. Their Teahouse post was also reverted by the blocking admin, so there's nothing more here that concerns us. There's no place for that kind of user here. I appreciate you letting me know, though. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:21, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Rashid Naseem lone (11:11, 21 January 2023)[edit]

Hello --Rashid (talk) 11:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Rashid Naseem lone. Welcome to Wikipedia. I see you're a very new user, so I'm happy to answer any questions about editing that you may have. I'll leave a welcome message with some helpful links on your talk page to get you started. You'll see I've just reverted one of your first edits. It was well-intentioned, but there is a huge difference between 'greenhouse gasses' and 'green house gasses'. You change to the second version was no correct, as it implied there were some green-coloured gasses inside a house, and not, as was intended, gasses that are causing the greenhouse effect and global warming. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:28, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy Third Adminship Anniversary![edit]

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Women in Red in February 2023[edit]

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You are in Mentor prog.

So you can be mine if you want to :) MumQuin (talk) 22:51, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MumQuin It's more the case that you're welcome to just drop by with any question about how to edit. I'll help you if I can. If I'm not around, you're also welcome to seek help at the Teahouse if you need it. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:11, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok thx. :) I will. :) MumQuin (talk) 14:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is this normal here people just delet comments you did in a dabate and tell you they "BELIVE" it was not constructiv? See on my talk page. Very friendly behavior here :) MumQuin (talk) 00:27, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there @MumQuin. I assume you mean this edit you made to the Vector 2022 discussion. I do know that page has attracted a huge amount of heated debate - sometimes from very new users who've just come to complain, so it's important to have contributions that take the discussions forward. I don't think yours was especially helpful (more hot air and annoyance than helpful comments). BUT (and it's a very big 'but'): I believe you made it in good faith because of your views, and that I don't think you deserved one of our low level templated notices left by one of my fellow administrators. It's very easy to be irritated by these impersonal templated messages, but please appreciate that it's a huge task ensuring that this encyclopaedia is kept running smoothly and sometimes we make mistakes. I know I do - even after 11+ years here. So, my advice is to try to see it from the other person's viewpoint, whilst considering how useful any particular comment is to take forward any debate. I might probably also have removed it with an edit summary saying 'not really very helpful', but wouldn't have left a message on your talk page. However, it could be argued that explaining to you (via a templated message) what I had done, it would at least have communicated clearly what my actions were and why. You might otherwise have wondered what happened to your edit. So, it's a balance thing.
I don't mean to be rude, but I suspect that English may not be your first language, and so it can be hard for people like me to see past the unintended blunt words to the intended contribution behind them (I know when I go to German speaking countries I must sound terribly rude at times because I only have a tiny vocabulary and limited knowledge of how to say things correctly. I certainly can't write in German.)
I hope this explains things. Bottom line: don't take this issue to heart. Wikipedia can seem like a harsh environment for new editors. My view is that new users are best advised to stay away from contentious areas like using WP:AFD and WP:PROD until they have more experience of creating content. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:34, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Growth team newsletter #24[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).

Guideline and policy news

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User-made portraits, again[edit]

Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Cartoon_portraits, perhaps something you'll find interesting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-06[edit]

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Question from Benjoface (12:51, 12 February 2023)[edit]

How do I create an article? And is it possible to make one on a phone? --Benjoface (talk) 12:51, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Benjoface yes, it’s perfectly possible to create a new article on a mobile. I edit a lot using a tiny iPhone, and prefer ‘Desktop’ view to Mobile view. See very bottom of any page to switch between them.
However, creating a new article that meets our criteria for Notability is not itself easy. In fact, even for experienced editors, it’s still the hardest task they can perform here. See WP:YFA for some basic advice. BTW: what is the subject you’d like to create? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks, I would like to make an article about Cg5 (singer and producer). Benjoface (talk) 01:43, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Benjoface ok. As not every musician, actor, performer etc is going to meet our notability criteria (see WP:NARTIST), it’s important that you find at least three in-depth and independent source that talk about him. Avoid interviews and personal blogs and websites. See Reliable Sources.
As mentioned, to avoid disappointment, do spend some weeks making smaller edits and improvements to existing articles to gain an insight into how things operate here. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-07[edit]

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Good day. I am pessimistic about the long term well being of Wikipedia because of recent revelations of POV distortion and subsequent structural failures in handling that (on top of so many from time immemorial!) in Holocaust topic area. Just in case, there are alternatives such as Atsme's Justapedia and the unreleased which one day might become a better form than Wikipedia ever is. (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Editing news 2023 #1[edit]

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Editing news 2023 #1[edit]

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Some of the upcoming changes

The Editing team is nearly finished with this first phase of the Talk pages project. Nearly all new features are available now in the Beta Feature for Discussion tools.

It will show information about how active a discussion is, such as the date of the most recent comment. There will soon be a new "Add topic" button. You will be able to turn them off at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion. Please tell them what you think.

Daily edit completion rate by test group: DiscussionTools (test group) and MobileFrontend overlay (control group)

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New Project: Edit Check

The Editing team is beginning a project to help new editors of Wikipedia. It will help people identify some problems before they click "Publish changes". The first tool will encourage people to add references when they add new content. Please watch that page for more information. You can join a conference call on 3 March 2023 to learn more.

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Question from ChampCali (23:38, 22 February 2023)[edit]

Why is the article that I submitted on Matt Slater today being redirected to Matthew Slater --ChampCali (talk) 23:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@ChampCali It looks like you usurped the title Matt Slater last year in order to use it for your own article. That was maybe not the best way of approaching things, so someone replaced it back. You can still find the text of your article either in the View History tab for the redirect page, or in your own User Contributions. I suggest you take that text and put it into a new or a Draft article which you can create or submit at WP:YFA. That page will then be reviewed, feedback given, and if/when accepted it will be given a non-conflicting title (such as Matt Slater (sports executive). Alternatively, you could raise this at WP:Redirects for discussion. Assuming the person you wrote about meets our Notabilty criteria, this is all easily resolvable. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:00, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Cillian cole (13:41, 24 February 2023)[edit]

How to insert tables in wiki pages sir ? --Cillian cole (talk) 13:41, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Cillian cole. Welcome to Wikipedia! Tables are not the easiest things to work with when you've hardly edited before. I always advise people to start by experimenting with creating or editing an existing table in their personal sandbox. In desktop mode, click the User icon and then 'sandbox'. See Help:Table for a 'how-to' guide. For simple tables, I find using our 'Visual Editing' tool a lot easier than Source Editor - though you have a lot more fine control with the latter.
If you find an article containing an existing table that you'd like to have something similar in a new article, you could copy the 'source code' by clicking 'edit source' and then pasting that in your sandbox to experiment with. It's best not to work on tables in a live article until you are really sure what you're doing. But, of course, you can always check and then revert your own edit if it doesn't work. You do that via the 'View History' tab of the page you're working on and simply click 'undo' against your last edit. I hope this helps. Regards from the UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:32, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Women in Red March 2023[edit]

Women in Red Mar 2023, Vol 9, Iss 3, Nos 251, 252, 258, 259, 260, 261

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Question from Jman143 (09:24, 9 March 2023)[edit]

hello. how do i add pictures to an existing article? --Jman143 (talk) 09:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jman143 Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. There could be two answers to this question - it depends what image you want to add. The first part of the answer is that you are not permitted to upload copyrighted images, pictures found on the internet (most will be copyright), pictures taken by other people, found on Facebook, etc. This is a common mistake new users make. However, if you have a photo that you have genuinely taken yourself, you are permitted to upload and release it to Wikimedia Commons. I can explain that process if you wish.
But before doing so, please let me know me what article you want to add a picture to, and whether you own the copyright of it. I can then advise you further.
The advice I would then give you can be found in 'ANSWER 2' here. Please follow and read that link, then come back if you have any further questions. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:42, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A cup of tea for you![edit]

It was nice to put a face to the name at the meeting with the WMF. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Clovermoss Likewise! Sorry I had to shoot off, too (I felt very scruffy as well!) Do you know if there is a link to view the rest of the meeting? I've not checked the Growth page yet, though. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:15, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A link to the recording is here. The talk page also has other links so you might want to check it out sometime. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Hispanic Empires (18:55, 11 March 2023)[edit]

hello. How to create an article that does not have the word draft behind. Long live the wine and regards Hispanic Empires 18:55, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Hispanic Empires. I'#m afraid you cannot create an article in the main part of the dictionary until you are 'autoconfirmed' - that means that you need to have an account here for at least four days to be able to do that. Even then, you are best advised to create a 'draft' and submit it for review and feedback at WP:AFC when you're ready. You'll even find a 'wizard' tool to help you. You'll get useful feedback via this route, and someone will move it to mainspace for you if it meets out Notability criteria.
Should you choose to try to start from scratch with a brand new article, you do face a much greater chance of it being 'Speedily Deleted' if it fails. You would need to ensure you have sound, reliable and independent sources for an article. You can find more help and guidance at this page. On the whole, the best advice I can give it to take your time and to learn how things operate by making smaller edits and improvements to existing articles first. Does this answer help you? Nick Moyes (talk) 20:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes If it helped me a lot, thanks, Long live the Wine and Greetings! Hispanic Empires 01:54, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-11[edit]

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Hartley High School[edit]

That was compassionate of you. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:42, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sometimes I worry I'll be taken to ANI for being compassionate on some days and too stern on others. I guess my variability balances itself out! Nick Moyes (talk) 09:45, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
However, I see now you were engaging with this editor. I have no objection if you wish to alter or completely remove my block. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:46, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Better to err on the side of kindness. They did try to engage and were genuinely flummoxed. No. I was going to SPAMUBLOCK, My neurodivergence or whatever they call it these days makes me blind to compassion. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:48, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-12[edit]

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Precious anniversary[edit]

Four years!

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Question from Abby1111111123 (21:12, 24 March 2023)[edit]

Hi, I created a biography page, I'm not sure if it's published or if it'll appear on google when someone searches for it. Can you please guide me? --Abby1111111123 (talk) 21:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Abby1111111123 Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for your question. You created a CV about yourself in your sandbox. That is neither acceptable as an encyclopedia entry for Wikipedia, nor is it acceptable for any userpage either. This is not LinkedeIn, and we are not here to help you WP:PROMOTE yourself. I shall be deleting that page imminently. I'm sorry to disappoint you. However, should you ever choose to write about a Notable subject, please read this guidance and then consider creating a draft at this page. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Hispanic Empires (18:35, 25 March 2023)[edit]

Hello, how can I block or delete the user page like you do? Greetings Sandman Black ¡EXIT LIGHT ENTER NIGHT! 18:35, 25 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Hispanic Empires Only administrators can do that. I had been editing for 10 years here before I felt ready to seek the approval of the community to be trusted with admin rights. That said, any user who understands our policies can use WP:TWINKLE to flag up pages of concern for admins to consider and act upon, if necessary. Hope this explains things. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:23, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Women in Red April 2023[edit]

Women in Red Apr 2023, Vol 9, Iss 4, Nos 251, 252, 262, 263, 264, 265, 266

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Question from Amrapali1973Gupta (04:11, 28 March 2023)[edit]

How can I move one person's page if he / she has changed his name, surname or if his / her name's spelling has some mistakes? --Amrapali1973Gupta (talk) 04:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Amrapali1973Gupta You can find full details at WP:MOVE. As a brand new user you might prefer to post your reasons and supporting evidence at the article’s Talk Page, and let another editor rename the page. All users must be WP:AUTOCONFIRMED before they are permitted to do this action. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:05, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Growth team newsletter #25[edit]

13:10, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1177 § ‎Richard Cadman Etches. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:56, 3 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Nick. I noticed this while checking on a different question on that archived page. The OP apparently added a new response directly to the archived discussion thread, and I'm not sure whether you saw it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:59, 3 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).

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Tech News: 2023-15[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-16[edit]

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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-17[edit]

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Women in Red May 2023[edit]

Women in Red May 2023, Vol 9, Iss 5, Nos 251, 252, 267, 268, 269, 270

Online events:

See also:

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  • Use the Google translate app and camera on your phone to translate text from an article or book

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Question from NeglectedDragon364 (19:29, 29 April 2023)[edit]

Hi, I’m new on wiki and just want to know the basics, can I get any tips? Thanks for anything! --NeglectedDragon364 (talk) 19:29, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NeglectedDragon364 Welcome to Wikipedia. I'll leave you a separate welcome message on your own talk page which has a link to our tutorial which should help get you started. I always advise making the very smallest/simplest edits to begin with - perhaps looking for spelling or grammatical errors in articles about topics that interest you.Here are a few other tips:
Leave a short 'edit summary' to explain the rationale for any edits you make, especially if they're changing existing content. Never add 'facts' that you happen to know - always base changes on already-published and therefore checkable sources such as properly published books, journals, or quality websites (not personal blogs, Facebook pages etc).
If you feel you want to make a major change - perhaps a contentious one - it can help to raise the issue first on the article's talk page and get consensus to make the change. Not everyone may agree with what you feel should be altered.
It's very common for a new editor to have some of their first few edits reversed because they don't always know of our policies or guidelines - never get annoyed or angry at that. Simply drop by the reverting editors talk page and ask them for an explanation as you' like to understand what you did wrong.
We work by collaboration, not confrontation. So good luck, and do pop by or ask at the Teahouse if you need further help. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:38, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-18[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

Technical news



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Tech News: 2023-19[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-20[edit]

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Question from Bill Rambo (18:16, 17 May 2023)[edit]

Hi, Nick. I have a picture of my grandfather, Victor Clough Rambo, meeting Helen Keller in India in 1955. It is a family photograph, and I tried to upload it to Dr. Rambo's page, but I was refused, as its suitability for Creative Commons could not be determined.

Any suggestions?

Bill --Bill Rambo (talk) 18:16, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Still Busy?[edit]

Hello, are you still available for tips and feedback? Or are you still busy as of 2023? You have been 'mentoring' me for a while and just, for some time, disappeared. BloxyColaSweet (talk) 23:40, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. Sorry - I've only just seen this as I've been away for the last week. Yes, I am very busy in real life, doing a lot of major building upgrades and redecorating at home over the last few months - not to mention a few long-term health concerns in the family. However, if you need any specific advice, do let me know and I'll try and see if I can help you. I don't have that much free time to offer general mentorship right now, but if you have difficulties, I'll promise to do my best for you. Just let me know. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-21[edit]

16:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

TheWikiWizard - May 2023[edit]

Hey, Nick Moyes! Here is the May 2023 edition for the TheWikiWizard!


  • Now is the time to start writing those Christmas cards and do the Christmas shopping! Come December, you can sit back and edit Wikipedia! ;)
  • When it snows in December/Winter, stock up the snow in your freezer, so when it gets hot you can do a snowball fight in the summer!

Wiki(P/M)edia News[edit]

  • A conversation with trustees event took place on the 18th of May. You can read more details on the event here!
  • On the English Wikipedia some RFAs which took place the past few months. You can see the full details at the RFA main page.
  • There is a event (Conference) that is taking place in city of Belgrade. More details on the event can be found by clicking on the link!

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Your Teahouse response[edit]

I am way behind reading the archives but just saw this. I'm not sure what you intended to say but it was not "Wikipedia is only in English" and just in case someone else reads that, it probably should be fixed. I know they say don't edit the archives but I have done it to correct links or in a few cases incorrect information.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 23:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Vchimpanzee Thanks, but please don't edit it. Any error in my poor choice of wording is irrelevant, and after 18 months nobody is going to read it and get the wrong idea about Wikipedia. But thank you for drawing it to my attention. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I hate to just leave a mistake, but like you say if no one sees it then it doesn't matter.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

About that user you blocked for spam[edit]

You blocked 3CR Radical Radio Community Melbourne (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for spam - can you please revoke TPA and email? This account is not just any old spammer but it’s actually a community global banned LTA - WP:LTA/HOY to be specific. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 23:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Women in Red - June 2023[edit]

Women in Red June 2023, Vol 9, Iss 6, Nos 251, 252, 271, 272, 273

Online events:

See also:

Tip of the month:

  • Looking for new red links? Keep an eye out for interesting and notable friends, family, or associates of your last article subject, and re-examine group photos for other women who may still need an article.

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Growth team newsletter #26[edit]

15:14, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-22[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
  • As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

Technical news

  • Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.


  • The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.


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Tech News: 2023-23[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 22:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My recent edits[edit]

Hi Nick, Sorry about some of my recent edits on AIV, I am still a relatively new editor. I will take some time to familiarize myself about the process as you mentioned


𝑭𝒊𝒍𝒎𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔 (talk) 15:02, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No worries, Filmssssssssssss. I'm grateful you want to help keep vandalism down, so please don't let my 'steer' put you off. Just shout if you need any other help. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:40, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-24[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 14:49, 12 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023[edit]

Hello Nick Moyes,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023


Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).


Tech News: 2023-25[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-26[edit]

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Women in Red July 2023[edit]

Women in Red June 2023, Vol 9, Iss 7, Nos 251, 252, 274, 275, 276

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New pages patrol needs your help![edit]

New pages awaiting review as of June 30th, 2023.

Hello Nick Moyes,

The New Page Patrol team is sending you this impromptu message to inform you of a steeply rising backlog of articles needing review. If you have any extra time to spare, please consider reviewing one or two articles each day to help lower the backlog. You can start reviewing by visiting Special:NewPagesFeed. Thank you very much for your help.


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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

added Novem Linguae

Bureaucrat changes

removed MBisanz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news


  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Tech News: 2023-27[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 22:49, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Citation Barnstar
Thanks for fixing the citations in my draft! QuickQuokka [⁠talkcontribs] 13:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Shashi Dharan TP on User:Shashi Dharan TP/sandbox (04:02, 8 July 2023)[edit]

Hi , good day, how to create hyperlink on Sandbox and how to save what I have written on my first time creating a page? --Shashi Dharan TP (talk) 04:02, 8 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @Shashi Dharan TP, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia. I have just placed a welcome message on your talk page with a very useful link to get you to learn about editing.
Every edit you make is visible on the internet - whether it's on your userpage, your sandbox, or in an article. So the blue 'Publish' button is really just a 'Save' button. Click that, and whatever you've written will be saved on that page.
We have two types of hyperlink on pages. One is called a 'wikilink' and that is simply a link to another Wikipedia page. You can either click the 'chain' icon in the editing tool to add a wikilink, or you can place two square brackets around the correctly spelled word. Both do the same thing - just like this link to the article about the Earth.
The other way to use a link is to use it within a citation to a reliable source. When you click the 'Cite' button in the editing tool, you will see a box into which you can add that hyperlink to a non-Wikipedia page. The little magnifying glass next to it allows you to try to get the software to auto-fill the rest of the reference for you, based upon that link. But it doesn't always work perfectly, although it helpfully cuts down on the amount you have to manually add to make a really good reference (citation).
It is a bad idea to try to create a completely new article when you've only just arrived here - we have many rules and guidelines that must be followed. Our advice is always to start small, and gradually learn the basics. When I train people, I first get them to edit their userpage, saying just a little about themselves and their interests in wanting to edit Wikipedia. (Don't reveal personal details as anyone can see it, and it's not necessary).
I then get them to fix errors or add small, verifiable bits of information to an existing article and to support their edits with a WP:CITATION to a Reliable Source. For a new article about something, you would need to read and understand our Notability Criteria, and then find three or more independent sources that talk about that topic in some detail. You can get more advice on that by carefully reading this advice page. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 09:27, 8 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions § AutoWikiBrowser. After our lovely discussion at WT:AWB, I went to check your account and noticed you're an administrator. I still want AutoWikiBrowser rights to make redirects, so can you please review my request to see if I can get these rights? QuickQuokka [⁠talkcontribs] 22:32, 8 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@QuickQuokka I'm afraid I'm going to stand aside for that request for two reasons. Firstly, I don't feel I'm experienced enough in AWB to say 'OK' and let you loose on it and, secondly, I worry that you're making a whole load of unnecessary redirects based on minor variant spellings. I'm not convinced this is appropriate or necessary (multiple redirects to Spank and some spiderverse page seems like trivial examples for me to cite), so your use of the incredibly powerful AWB could potentially be an issue. That's not to say I don't trust you or your motives- more that I don't trust myself to give you that right and to justify doing so. I'd prefer a more experienced admin to decide. Sorry. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nick Moyes: Hey now! I don't just make redirects about spankings and Spider-Man! I also made cum gutter!
But in all seriousness, I understand and respect your decision to not give me the rights. --QuickQuokka [⁠talkcontribs] 23:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Civility Barnstar
For your help at the aforementioned WT:AWB QuickQuokka [⁠talkcontribs] 22:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-28[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 19:52, 10 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

username stuff[edit]

To be clear, I think your call not to block is totally inside admin discretion, offensive usernames in particular are a very grey area. I created {{UAA-no edits}} as an educational tool for responding to these premature reports. My personal thought process on these things is also memorialized at User:Beeblebrox/rough guide to username blocks. Maybe it is time for broader discussion of how we handle the really nasty stuff? Beeblebrox (talk) 23:53, 12 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks - I'll take a look at what you wrote later. I often ask myself whether, by blocking a no edit offensive username, I'm encouraging editors to report unecessarily. So when I don't, rather than simply add the 'wait' until they edit notice which the reporter probably won't see, I try to ping the reporter so they get alerted to my decline and appreciate the reasons wI/e make our decisions. (I'd be happy to block every offensive username if the guidelines encouraged that. Last time I read them I felt they didn't)
BUT...I do think it's time for that broader discussion. I really do think that now that Wikipedia has come of age, we/WMF should permanently delete from view all those blocked usernames which don't have any edits to their name, yet are of a deeply sexual or offensive nature. Leaving them on show for all the world to see serves no purpose other than to meet the perverse aims of those who created them in the first place, and it brings us into disrepute, I feel. It would only take one article in a popular tech journal of major newspaper to really show how easily we allow offensive terms to proliferate in view of anyone who went looking for them. (In the early days of the 'Reply' button they were showing up in the username look-ups, but I've not seen that lately) Should there ever be a broader discussion on this topic, count me in, or feel free to quote what I've just said. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:12, 13 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Joseph Connor draft[edit]

You really think it's COI? I have AGF so far, and it sure looks to me like nothing more than a dedicated fan. Is there anything I missed? Festucalextalk 15:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Festucalex it might be - hence my question to give them a chance to answer - it's the images they've uploaded to Commons that concern me. Yes, it could be a fan. But the images could be that of someone connected to this person. The image used on page 14 here goes back to 2017, and this user has (let me AGF) taken it and supplied it to Connor (see here on Instagram), or has acquired the full version from another social media space and uploaded it to Commons. Asking the question about COI seemed the best thing to do under the circumstances. Certainly many other images are copyright and should not have been uploaded in the first place. Quite an impressive actor though, even if not yet notable! Nick Moyes (talk) 16:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I myself have tagged the image used in the draft for deletion over at Commons. I still think this editor found the images online and fundamentally misunderstood what the CC0 license is. A paid editor would have had permission to use the images, I think. Festucalextalk 17:07, 15 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-29[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:06, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Women in Red 8th Anniversary[edit]

Women in Red 8th Anniversary
In July 2015 around 15.5% of the English Wikipedia's biographies were about women. As of July 2023, 19.61% of the English Wikipedia's biographies are about women. That's a lot of biographies created in the effort to close the gender gap. Happy 8th Anniversary! Join us for some virtual cake and add comments or memories and please keep on editing to close the gap!

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Tech News: 2023-30[edit]

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Question from Lincoln Briggs on Image Packaging System (15:07, 25 July 2023)[edit]

Hello friend , family --Lincoln Briggs (talk) 15:07, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, @Lincoln Briggs. Welcome to Wikipedia. What exactly is your question, please? The topic looks highly technical, and the page not at all well-cited. Were you looking to try to improve it? I'll leave one of our standard welcome messages on your talk page which contains a link to start learning how to edit Wikipedia. It's best to start slowly and get familiar with how things work by making small edits before setting off hurriedly to make big changes. If I can help you further, I will. regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:15, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Nordbjerg (12:37, 26 July 2023)[edit]

Hi Nick,

I'm trying to update the performance section of the Ethereum page - it starts off kind of weird ("the problem arises" with no context) and is factually incorrect.

I wanted to add more context on the current state of Ethereum - the roadmap has moved away from the sharding concept mentioned in that section to something dubbed a "rollup-centric" roadmap. I cannot really figure out when exactly that happened, so I am basically unsure how to source it:

On (, this is mentioned:

"Sharding is splitting up the Ethereum blockchain so that subsets of validators are only responsible for a fraction of the total data. [..] layer 2 rollups have developed much faster than expected and have provided a lot of scaling already, [..] This means "shard chains" are no longer needed and have been dropped from the roadmap."

Can I cite this as a source? How would I put it in a sentence? Most of the sentences are like "As of [year]", "In [year]", but there is no specific year. The best I could find is

Generally - are there good guides on here on how to cite different types of sources, e.g. undated ones?

Thanks Nick --Nordbjerg (talk) 12:37, 26 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, @Nordbjerg. Gosh, I feel out of my depth in trying to understand what your question is about. Firstly, I'd say you should never use or cite discussion fora. They cannot be treated as Reliable Sources because they are user-generated (just like Wikipedia is, and we never cite ourselves here, either)
If it were important to find when a website first made some statement, you could go through the archived version on The Wayback Machine to find the earliest mention and cite that link. If you're uncertain whether a particular statement is a widely held view, or just one perspective from a wideer range of good sources, there might be a way of stating that one particluar website stated "XYX". The citation would include an access date to at least pin it down in time a little bit. e.g. According to Ethereum's own website, sharding is defined as meaning "xyz" [ref to Ethereum website].
Now this is too technical for me to comment on in detail, or to offer a form of words you could deploy, but it's often best not to charge in and change an article in a major way of you're not sure you've interpreted something correctly. Instead, it's often best to raise the issue on the article's talk page. Explain what your concerns are, what sources you're relying on and what you would like to change it to. Leave the thread open for a week and watch for any comments. We work by consensus (rather than assertiveness), so wait and see what comments you get back. If, however, either no response after 7 days, you could WP:BEBOLD and simply change it with a clear edit summary and await what happens next. If it's reverted, you could discuss with the reverting editor their reasons and your hopes on making improvements to the page.
I'm not really sure I've fully answered your questions, but let me know if it's helped or not. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Growth team newsletter #27[edit]

12:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame Teahouse message[edit]

Hi Nick, I'm presuming that you didn't mean to post a Teahouse welcome on Illusion Flame's user page, as opposed to their talk? I have reverted the edit. Thanks, Schminnte (talk contribs) 21:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Schminnte Thanks. Dealt with. (It's been a long and tiring day of cleanup and very repetitive editing!) Nick Moyes (talk) 21:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Understandable. Thanks for all your help with newer editors (including me not that long ago it seems! I knew I recognised that username). All the best, Schminnte (talk contribs) 21:16, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Soccerpuppets on Vanessa Peters (04:56, 3 August 2023)[edit]

Hey I was copyediting this article about Vanessa Peters, the musician, and the original author put two spaces after every period. I know some people prefer this, but should I copy this style as well? Thanks --Soccerpuppets (talk) 04:56, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there Soccerpuppets. Great question! Double-spacing is a gradually diminishing habit, especially amongst North American editors. See MOS:DOUBLESPACE which explains that if anyone does type double spaces into an article, they render on the page as single spaced. Therefore, that tells me that single spacing is the correct approach to use.
BTW: I noticed in a recent edit you changed 'both sides of the Atlantic' to 'globally'. Whilst I take your point, I would suggest that "in North America and Europe" would have been much more appropriate in that situation, as it's probably not referring to including China, Russia, Asia, Africa and South America etc. But it all depends what the cited source says.
Another PS: your username might draw attention to yourself as it tends to suggest a cynical use of a new WP:SOCKPUPPET account to avoid a block. You might like to address that issue by saying something on your userpage about your rationale and motives for wanting to contribute to Wikipedia, and why you chose that name. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:47, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok thanks for the answer for single-spacing and "globally" word choice. This is very helpful in my journey to learn how to edit wikipedia pages effectively. Also, I understand your point about my username. I watched a video about long-term abuse yesterday which inspired to start helping out on wikipedia, and I felt choosing a satirical username would remind me of why I started. I did not know about the user bio, I will update that as soon as possible. Thanks again. Soccerpuppets (talk) 17:24, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from Parthenon646546 (07:13, 3 August 2023)[edit]

Hi please teach me how to begin editing because i am not able to find arti le with any grammatical mistake --Parthenon646546 (talk) 07:13, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there @Parthenon646546. Thanks for your question and welcome to Wikipedia. I will leave an automatic welcome message on your talk page which includes a very helpful link to help you learn how to edit. (We have two different editing tools you can switch between, if you find one is not to your taste)
If you have good English language skills, and want to improve the readability of articles here, you might wish to follow the guidance at WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors which focuses on improving the wording of articles.
In desktop view, you will see you have a Tab next to your user page and talk page, called 'Homepage'. That offers you tailored suggestions for editing to help get you started. These are always small edits which are perfect for learning. I see you're on a mobile, so look for the very small link at the bottom of every page. It lets you switch your phone from mobile editing mode to 'desktop' editing mode. (It's something I always do on my tiny iPhone screen. Mobile view is great for reading articles, but not so useful for making edits to improve a page.)
You might also like to visit WP:Task Center for ideas of the type of editing you might like to do. Let me know if this helps and how you are getting along. Learning to edit Wikipedia is a bit like learning to drive a car. Start slowly and move off gently until you've mastered the basic controls before you drive at high speed. Obviously, knowing where to go is important at whatever speed, so I hope my reply has been of some help to you. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 11:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please remove edits to Michael P. Grace II[edit]

The removing of so-called coatracks has made the article unorganized...Work as a theater producer is now under Music Work. Please remove the edits if possible. Starlighsky (talk) 21:53, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]