Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs recorded by K. S. Chithra

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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 13:26, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs recorded by K. S. Chithra[edit]

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Fails WP:NLIST. Note that WP:NOTDATABASE applies. Few, if any, tracks pass WP:NMUSIC. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:01, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Lists, and India. Shellwood (talk) 11:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - perfectly notable as a list, nowhere an "indiscriminate collection of information". Could only be relevant if WP decided that no list of recorded songs could have a place here. Otherwise it just needs expansion and proper sourcing, not deletion. Other than that, the notability of the songs as suggested by the nominator isn't as important (in lists of works, no requirement exists for all the works to be notable - the subject is more notable, as per WP:NLIST: "the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable") - fact is, by the way the majority of films are notable, so actually NFILM might be more suitable than NMUSIC. If by then no sources are found then I believe the right course of action would be redirecting it to the main list. Shahid • ^Talk2me 13:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - it so happens that the nominator has decided to carry out a massive deletion of most lists of songs recorded by Indian singers with the same message, but I do not understand why they were not at least grouped then into one AfD. I see that the following articles are nominated as well:
We have now a few dozens of Indian lists nominated for deletion. Is there any admin here who can help with this messy situation which will confuse everyone and will inevitably create varying results? Maybe Liz could help. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:58, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the listing is nowhere an "indiscriminate collection of information". Could only be relevant if WP decided that no list of recorded songs could have a place here. Similar articles do exist with even poorer sourcing. Otherwise it just needs expansion and proper sourcing, not deletion. Most of the films already have enough references and the songs may be traced upon searching on the web. Abbasulu (talk) 17:51, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify Combined WP:BLP and LIST article. The BLP may be notable, but the list fails WP:NLIST, WP:SIGCOV and WP:V. No effective sources on the list. It is an unfiltered copy and paste article. scope_creep^Talk 14:07, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I closed this discussion as "no consensus", with the following closure statement. I believe this statement still applies, but rather than waste community time there just to reopen these, I'm relisting it. I'm copying my closure statement as I feel the commentary is relevant. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC) [reply]
This is one of several AfDs I have now read where virtually identical !votes have been posted by multiple parties that leave the discussion evenly divided. Those advocating deletion correctly argue that NLIST needs to be met; those arguing to keep correctly argue that discographies of notable artists have generally been treated as notable, and that individual items don't have to be notable for a list to have a Wikipedia article, so NMUSIC is generally not relevant. I don't see how repeating this discussion any number of times is a productive exercise; we clearly need to have a wider discussion about what criteria we use to evaluate the notability of such discographies, and probably use a few bundled nominations to make the discussion more efficient. As such I'm closing those nominations in today's log that are clearly divided on this basis with this identical statement, which seems fitting given the identical discussions. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: See above comment.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 17:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Lists, and India. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 21:43, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think these lists of songs of notable Indian singers are acceptable but the lists badly need reformatting, information and sources. I would be in favour of having condensed lists of more notable songs with emphasis on the songs rather than the films.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:NLIST per nom. Artist doesn't have an article either. SBKSPP (talk) 22:51, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@SBKSPP: What do you mean? K. S. Chithra. Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:05, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - as per Dr. Blofeld and Vanamonde. Chithra is a notable singer; this does meet NLIST; NDATABASE doesn't apply; AfD is not cleanup. Ingratis (talk) 12:45, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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