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Anime and manga
[edit]- Stacy Jefferson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sources. Only external link is IMDb. User:Tankishguy talk :) say hi 21:00, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. User:Tankishguy talk :) say hi 21:00, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and United Kingdom. Shellwood (talk) 21:20, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Comics and animation, Anime and manga, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:47, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment It might be worth noting that the article title probably should be Stacey Gregg (the page with that name has been deleted a few times previously). Don't think she was ever known as Stacy (without the e). She was also known for roles in the US as Stacey Maxwell, eg in The Virginian, The Monkees and Batman. In the UK she's known for roles in Crossroads https://www.newspapers.com/image/893742133 and playing Sandy in Grease alongside Richard Gere eg https://www.newspapers.com/image/840906998 There's a few more hits at https://www.newspapers.com/search/results/?keyword=%22Stacey+Gregg%22++®ion=gb-eng worth checking the British Newspaper Archive as well, see also this two-page articles from the TV Times in 1971 (page 8-9) https://mcmweb.co.uk/tvtimes/1971/Nov%206th%201971.pdf Piecesofuk (talk) 08:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep As Stacey Gregg she meets WP:NACTOR. She has also been credited as Stacey Jefferson and Stacey Richardson. As well as voicing the roles mentioned in the current article, she played Daffy in all episodes of Tottering Towers and Nurse Baxter in 23 episodes of Crossroads from 1977-1978. On stage, she played Sandy opposite Richard Gere in the British premiere of Grease (musical), first in Coventry and then on the West End. As well as the coverage found by Piecesofuk, there is coverage and information about more roles in the British Newspaper Archive. I'll add more info and sources to the article. There appears to be another Stacey Gregg, probably also notable, who is director of Here Before and co-creator/director of other shows. RebeccaGreen (talk) 18:33, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 03:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC) - Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 05:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- List of Uma Musume Pretty Derby characters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NLIST. Character info are mostly unsourced with release info sources being unreliable. Not a plausible search term to be redirected. Go D. Usopp (talk) 15:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games, Anime and manga, and Japan. Go D. Usopp (talk) 15:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Massive plotcruft, no context given. WP:INDISCRIMINATE failed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:34, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NLIST. I've seen similar lists survive deletion before, but that's where the sourcing covers the entire information presented, and doesn't go overboard with plot minutiae. Given the principle that plot is generally self-sourced from the work, the first part is more fatal to WP:NLIST than the latter. It is way too much though. VRXCES (talk) 12:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. The article was split from the main Uma Musume Pretty Derby article last March, which had 223k bytes prior to the split, and the character list made up a good chunk of that at the time. While I'm not sure if the list as is is particularly well written, I also don't think that merging it back in to the main article would be helpful for the average reader, let alone deleting the article outright with no explanation of who makes an appearance. --Jnglmpera (talk) 07:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think the appropriate decision would have been to significantly trim the list instead of spinning it out. IgelRM (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:SURMOUNTABLE. These characters are mentioned in reliable sources (as used in the article and per WP:A&M/ORS) which include Anime News Network, Nikkan Sports, Comic Natalie and Oricon. In my opinion the character list needs to be trimmed down to just the main characters with character descriptions taken from the WP:RS. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- Mentions alone aren't enough, the sources need to be significantly in-depth on the characters specifically for notability. IgelRM (talk) 21:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- So have additional sources been looked for? After doing a quick search I found this source by THEM reviews (reliable per WP:A&M/ORS). This can be built up into a section regarding character reviews. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:01, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure, but this is really a review of the anime and not characters specifically. IgelRM (talk) 13:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- No, it also goes into detail about the characters. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure, but this is really a review of the anime and not characters specifically. IgelRM (talk) 13:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- So have additional sources been looked for? After doing a quick search I found this source by THEM reviews (reliable per WP:A&M/ORS). This can be built up into a section regarding character reviews. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:01, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Mentions alone aren't enough, the sources need to be significantly in-depth on the characters specifically for notability. IgelRM (talk) 21:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment, I narrowed the article's scope to just include the horse girl characters. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:28, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:SURMOUNTABLE, WP:SPLIT, and WP:HEY. The list was in bad shape at the time of the AfD nom and is still not great, but the article has been improved by KnowledgeKid87 since the nomination. The subject itself (characters from Uma Musume) is notable, so it is just a question of how best to cover it, and merging this back into the game article would yield readability and undue concerns. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 13:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to discuss the edits to the article since nomination and both delete !votes.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadspike [Talk] 19:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC)- @Zxcvbnm@Vrxces@Go D. Usopp, would you mind taking another look at the list? It has been edited significantly since you !voted. Toadspike [Talk] 19:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Still fails WP:NLIST. A majority of sources are used to reference the casting of voice actors, with only a single citation used to document a character in the list. Go D. Usopp (talk) 02:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- You cite notability as the main issue, yet I found at least one source which discusses the characters. With all due respect, did you follow through with WP:DILIGENCE before nominating this article for deletion? Knowledgekid87 (talk) 12:39, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Still fails WP:NLIST. A majority of sources are used to reference the casting of voice actors, with only a single citation used to document a character in the list. Go D. Usopp (talk) 02:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to main article; I don't see the notability for the list and the character description are still really original research. IgelRM (talk) 13:56, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- The character descriptions can be fixed. I see notability for the list as the cast and descriptions for the characters are covered in WP:RS. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:45, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm@Vrxces@Go D. Usopp, would you mind taking another look at the list? It has been edited significantly since you !voted. Toadspike [Talk] 19:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep a characters list for a notable franchise is per se notable, as it is not a separate topic, but a separate article split for readability and size purposes. No objection to further trimming and sourcing, but as pointed out above, those are SURMOUNTABLE problems. Jclemens (talk) 04:07, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- This is duplicate of your comment above and WP does not have a guideline like that. IgelRM (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It looks like this might close as a No consensus or Keep but I'm relisting to give editors a chance to also consider Redirection.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:59, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Knowledgekid87 and their improvement of the article. The THEM Review should be enough for reception a bit, as should the ANN ones (don't have time to assess them right now tho). I also found several academic sources which, similar to the keep precedent with a similar XFD but to a lesser extent, may help the article: an in-depth analysis of the umamusume species; an academic case study for the contractions of characters' names in the context of linguistics; (to a lesser extent) official ethic rules on derivative works for the characters (10-12); and some citation-only stuff (while the sources aren't linked, the title indicates there's coverage) such as an article on "memorial services" for umamusume and two articles on at least one of the character's (multiple characters are implied in at least one of them, but the lack of plural indicators in Japanese makes it hard to tell) impact on the region around Hidaka, Hokkaido ([1][2]). ミラP@Miraclepine 01:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- The sources in the linked FGO AFD are WP:VALNET sources, so I don't think this is any kind of precedent. I have not looked at the scholarly sources, but generally I think this type of notability cannot be established solely with those. IgelRM (talk) 19:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well, the Valnet sources aren't academic sources, hence why I did not refer to them in the context of my !vote. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- It also depends on who writes the article, as credentials help establish notability. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 12:44, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I see, it wasn't totally clear to me from the comment before. IgelRM (talk) 00:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well, the Valnet sources aren't academic sources, hence why I did not refer to them in the context of my !vote. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- The sources in the linked FGO AFD are WP:VALNET sources, so I don't think this is any kind of precedent. I have not looked at the scholarly sources, but generally I think this type of notability cannot be established solely with those. IgelRM (talk) 19:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
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