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Requested move discussion at Talk:Western Bears #Requested move 8 May 2025
[edit]There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Western Bears #Requested move 8 May 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Servite et contribuere (talk) 00:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Women's State of Origin
[edit]I think that coverage of the Women's State of Origin could benefit from being rearranged. There is duplication of the match details which are given on the main Women's article and the yearly State of Origin and Women's State of Origin articles, and also transcluded onto the NSW and Queensland team pages. I suggest the following:
- Women's State of Origin yearly articles: should contain full details for Women's and U19 Women's matches
- State of Origin yearly articles: Women's and U19 Women's matches can be transcluded here
- Women's State of Origin: match details from 2018 onwards are covered in yearly articles so can be removed, results from the Interstate Challenge era can be grouped under one section header and listed using "rugbyleaguebox collapsible". Women's U19 section from the main State of Origin article should be added here.
- State of Origin series: Keep brief summary, but remove tables of Women's results which are not needed as covered in separate article
- NSW and Queensland team articles: replace match details with a table of results as done for most other representative teams, and currently used in these articles for pre-2006 games. (when removing match details the team lists can be kept)
Before making any significant changes I thought it would be helpful to know what other people thought and if there are any suggestions for other ways these articles could be improved. EdwardUK (talk) 16:32, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Point 1: Yes, fully agree.
Point 2: I'd say a brief mention in prose and a link to the article similar to 2021 Men's Rugby League World Cup final, don't think there is a need for women's results here if separated articles exist for them.
Point 3: Don't really have an idea on the best way to improve but agree it needs improving.
Point 4: Agree, same justification as point 2.
Point 5: Yes, fully agree. Mn1548 (talk) 13:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)- Point 2: My suggestion was based on articles such as the World Cups where there are separate articles for each group which, apart from the team lists, are almost entirely transcluded to the main article. However, I think you are right that for the state of origin articles a brief mention with a link to the article would be sufficient. (off-topic - would separate group stage articles still be needed if collapsible team lists were included in the main world cup articles?)
Point 3 (match details): For most matches played in the Interstate era there are clearly not enough sources to create separate articles and although the details could be included on the yearly articles covering the men's series, my thought was that as they were not played under the State of Origin banner then they could be seen as out of place there. Whereas they are clearly part of the history of the women's game so I think it could be appropriate to have a list of these matches on the Women's State of Origin article - the suggested formatting is simply because a lot of it can be done just by adding "collapsible" to the existing match details from 2006 to 2017.
Point 3 (U19s) and Point 4: I have already made the changes as these were fairly easy and I thought they would be unlikely to be objected to. EdwardUK (talk) 16:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)- Re point 2 if its the "main article" its makes sense but I read that as the men's article as that's what 90% of it is and what is in the infobox. Plus that seems to be a more standard approach. For point three, as "list of women's interstate challenge results" could be an option. Mn1548 (talk) 18:05, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, a list article would work well – the equivalent of something like RFL Women's Championship seasons (2017–2023). In the Women’s State of Origin article, I feel the results would need to be condensed down as a list of 21 games could take up so much space they would overshadow the rest of the content, so this would be a good solution to that. EdwardUK (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have created the List of Women's Interstate Challenge results article (splitting from Women's State of Origin and then expanding it seemed the least complicated way). There are some missing results and team lists and scorers are incomplete, but if any sources are found for these they can be added. The match details have been removed from the Women's State of Origin article and there is a more detailed results table instead. On the yearly (men's) State of Origin articles the match details for Women and U19 Women have been replaced with brief descriptions and links to the yearly women's articles. Match details on the NSW women's team article have been replaced with a wikitable of results. I have left the Queensland team article mostly unchanged so far as I am unsure of how best to tackle this, but I have updated the transclusion links to avoid breaking the article. Also, I have converted the article on the Women's U18 Queensland team so that it now covers the U19 team instead. EdwardUK (talk) 04:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, a list article would work well – the equivalent of something like RFL Women's Championship seasons (2017–2023). In the Women’s State of Origin article, I feel the results would need to be condensed down as a list of 21 games could take up so much space they would overshadow the rest of the content, so this would be a good solution to that. EdwardUK (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Re point 2 if its the "main article" its makes sense but I read that as the men's article as that's what 90% of it is and what is in the infobox. Plus that seems to be a more standard approach. For point three, as "list of women's interstate challenge results" could be an option. Mn1548 (talk) 18:05, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Point 2: My suggestion was based on articles such as the World Cups where there are separate articles for each group which, apart from the team lists, are almost entirely transcluded to the main article. However, I think you are right that for the state of origin articles a brief mention with a link to the article would be sufficient. (off-topic - would separate group stage articles still be needed if collapsible team lists were included in the main world cup articles?)
Challenge Cup Final: a favour?
[edit]Hi all, not sure if requesting 'favours' is an accepted thing to do on Wikipedia, but if anyone here from the WikiProject (regardless of support of Hull KR or Warrington/Wigan or St Helens Women) is going to the Challenge Cup Final this weekend, ideally are located in the lower tier and have a pocket camera/phone with a decent camera), is it possible for you to do me a favour and get photographs of the match and the following trophy lift to put up on Commons? I did the same thing for Hull KR's 2023 final and for Hull KR's 2024 Grand Final at Old Trafford, and I would have gone and done the same photos this time, but the matter of going to this final is unfortunately out of my hands. Any quantity of photos will do this time around: just the match, some outdoor signs and the trophy lift are the big 'mains'. I'll say if you want something to go off, see below:
Media related to 2025 EFL Cup Final at Wikimedia Commons.
Thanks in advance, Hullian111 (talk) 13:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
adding video referee as parameter in rugbyleaguebox
[edit]I've added a parameter|vreferee=
in {{rugbyleaguebox/sandbox}} to allow the video ref (if applicable) to be shown. As they have become an integral part of first class matches, it seems a sensible addition to me. You can see an example at User:Nthep/sandbox3#support for video referee. Before putting this live can any NRL fans clarify for me if NRL games have a single named video ref or does everyone in the bunker get credited? Nthep (talk) 08:52, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Melbourne Storm
[edit]Melbourne Storm has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:58, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:NRL Grand Final#Requested move 2 June 2025
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:NRL Grand Final#Requested move 2 June 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 07:33, 21 June 2025 (UTC)