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These are a batch of new articles disproportionally more likely to be undisclosed advertising.

Batch to 6 October 2019

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APN News Channel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Jai49 (talk · contribs)
Advisorymandi.com (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Jedoliver2003 (talk · contribs)
Affle India Pvt. Ltd. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Vishalcf (talk · contribs)
Alex Depledge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Rhea Nawar (talk · contribs)
Alice Mamaga Akosua Amoako (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Selorm18 (talk · contribs)
Alltrans (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Boonook (talk · contribs)
Amaash films (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Shiva0706 (talk · contribs)
Amit Gefen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft MaayanLustig88 (talk · contribs)
Andre Rafael dos Santos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Cyclopxx (talk · contribs)
Angad Rawal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft OGFudbalski (talk · contribs)
Angelium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Sagafan (talk · contribs)
Apache Airflow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Wkeithvan (talk · contribs)
Arkas Art Center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft ToprakM (talk · contribs)
Artur Janibekyan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 3 Search Main · Draft Էդմոնդ Խաչատրյան (talk · contribs)
Assam Startup Policy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft RN.IITG (talk · contribs)
Azad Chaiwala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Saein Hamza (talk · contribs)
BC Biermann (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Dp1973 (talk · contribs)
BHP Mitsubishi Alliance (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Rastain (talk · contribs)
Bail Bloc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Graysonearle (talk · contribs)
Bear Mattress (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Scottsdaleknight (talk · contribs)
Bitfury (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Blockchain92 (talk · contribs)
BlinkNow Foundation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft DCNEDC (talk · contribs)
Blockchain-as-a-Service (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Khanadilaltaf (talk · contribs)
Bootstrap Studio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft JJZ9 (talk · contribs)
Brendan Gahan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Scruitineer (talk · contribs)
Bristol Fish Project (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Nicholasphatton (talk · contribs)
Business Exchange (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft YuminLu1990 (talk · contribs)
Cecil Hammond (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Scottceneje (talk · contribs)
Christopher Appleton (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Basiliskia (talk · contribs)
Credy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Krisha Lal (talk · contribs)
DWGO-FM (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft SBKSPP (talk · contribs)
DYJS (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft SBKSPP (talk · contribs)
DZYM-FM (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft SBKSPP (talk · contribs)
Digital Trust Center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Yvolution (talk · contribs)
Ebenezer Norman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft DrSangChi (talk · contribs)
Elias De León (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Retro305 (talk · contribs)
Encyclopedia of Concise Concepts by Women Philosophers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft HWPS (talk · contribs)
Fun Factory Uganda (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Mlajum (talk · contribs)
Gift Chidima Nnamoko (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Oludaspy (talk · contribs)
Girish Khatiwada (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Scottsdaleknight (talk · contribs)
H-Pem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Shahen books (talk · contribs)
Habit of Life (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Celionite (talk · contribs)
Hear Us Roar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Agwhittaker (talk · contribs)
Henry Plange Nyemitei (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Christina Malyon (talk · contribs)
Hugues Mulliez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft YaraHennaoui (talk · contribs)
IAAM Global (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Natalie.inamdar (talk · contribs)
Inflore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Princepcub3 (talk · contribs)
Innocent Virus Films (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Sachinscreativity (talk · contribs)
Interior Design Resource Agency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Youremybridge (talk · contribs)
J-Louis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Nicojtripodi (talk · contribs)
Jason D. Washington (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft JessiKa-ching (talk · contribs)
Jessica Pels (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Universal Encyclopedian2 (talk · contribs)
K Abdul Ghani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft MANISAHOTAUK (talk · contribs)
Kamini web series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Bitwits (talk · contribs)
Kamoru Yusuf (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Olakunlepr (talk · contribs)
Kayano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft CodyBeaulieu (talk · contribs)
Kevin Eze (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Rutholiverm (talk · contribs)
Kryon (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Bru Wilson (talk · contribs)
Kulturverlag Kadmos (Kadmos Publisher) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft Rabenbunt (talk · contribs)
Kwikasair (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Boonook (talk · contribs)
Kyiv Biennial (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft Anastasi yes (talk · contribs)
Lambretta V-Special (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft CM1642 (talk · contribs)
Laurent Fargues (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft MMB1 (talk · contribs)
List of films created with Davinci Resolve (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Googleuser (talk · contribs)
Losant IoT (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Hdkuehl (talk · contribs)
Louis E. Sola (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft SiriusFireRing (talk · contribs)
Lyons Israel Ellis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Psman (talk · contribs)
Marta Belcher (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Differentialpi (talk · contribs)
Mathias le Fèvre (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft JoshuaAnderson15 (talk · contribs)
Mawhiba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft Mustafa Al-Elq (talk · contribs)
Max Aruj (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Neatbusomyhuvk htuym rt (talk · contribs)
MeisterTask (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft GeromeKelv (talk · contribs)
Meixner Schlüter Wendt Architekten (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Kritikerlegende (talk · contribs)
MetAmpere (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Pranga69 (talk · contribs)
Michael Ashton (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Joeybwong79 (talk · contribs)
MightyCall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Chantdumonde (talk · contribs)
Munaf Ahmed Husain Mullaji (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft AhmedabadMuslims (talk · contribs)
Mustang Bio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Parclest (talk · contribs)
Nathan Leventhal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft ArtoftheWorld (talk · contribs)
National People’s Movement (Sri Lanka) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Bandarawgn (talk · contribs)
Neven Ilic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Musicistruth (talk · contribs)
Nexford University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Jai49 (talk · contribs)
Nuvance Health (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft SortaScience (talk · contribs)
Octopie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft DaJerm (talk · contribs)
Our Last Crusade or the Rise of a New World (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 2 Search Main · Draft SasukeUchiha1738 (talk · contribs)
Pat Clarke (sportscaster) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft OrlandoSportsFan (talk · contribs)
Perfect digital invariant (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Prova-nome (talk · contribs)
Peter Trevisani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Baritoneboy211 (talk · contribs)
Pleasures Magazine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Oludaspy (talk · contribs)
Pozareport.si (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft 2019nomos (talk · contribs)
Radisson Rewards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Jferrara81 (talk · contribs)
Rainer Opitz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft AndriiKhmelkov (talk · contribs)
ReadySoft Incorporated (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Shdon (talk · contribs)
Realme XT Pro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft VivekY1 (talk · contribs)
Record and replay debugging (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft DatabACE (talk · contribs)
San Román Clinic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft Darthvader2 (talk · contribs)
Sar Faraz Khan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Druv0n (talk · contribs)
Say Solos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Val0243 (talk · contribs)
Shameless Podcast (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Shamelessannabellelee (talk · contribs)
Shawn Steel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft Spicybrownie (talk · contribs)
Sheila Heen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Mcsh1362 (talk · contribs)
Simon Moores (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Mindblowing20 (talk · contribs)
SoHo Experiential (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Nfdgoisn (talk · contribs)
Sound of Boston (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Hyekab25 (talk · contribs)
Steffen Thum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft Neatbusomyhuvk htuym rt (talk · contribs)
Stella Harvey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Clairepiech (talk · contribs)
Stella Rita Awelle Asogwa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Oludaspy (talk · contribs)
Superbike Factory (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Jack Pure (talk · contribs)
Symphony retailai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Divelandy (talk · contribs)
Telecel Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft YaraHennaoui (talk · contribs)
The Insurance Emporium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Aldernumber10 (talk · contribs)
Thomas Cook Aviation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 1 Search Main · Draft Flapstwo (talk · contribs)
Toaster (digital agency) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Skezo2 (talk · contribs)
Tony Noske (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Dvzk (talk · contribs)
Tsogo Sun Hotels (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft TomLeVineCopyEditor (talk · contribs)
Uralchem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft 25Kelvin (talk · contribs)
Vic Joseph (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Nathan Love (talk · contribs)
Victor Mela Danzaria (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Oludaspy (talk · contribs)
Virtuous Retail (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft AsqmDF (talk · contribs)
Vonnen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft DVespremi (talk · contribs)
Xena Exchange (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Crypto Nancy (talk · contribs)
Zhiguo He (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Vice-Versace (talk · contribs)
Zina Spezakis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 0 Search Main · Draft Rhino Ryan (talk · contribs)

Placed here because it is counterproductive to notify spammers that their spam is being scrutinized. MER-C 17:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

beautypageants.indiatimes.com

Self-described native advertising. See details at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#beautypageants.indiatimes.com -- Bri.public (talk) 20:46, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

leadingauthorities.com

Paid (declared) editor has added multiple promotional links to the payer's website. -- Bri.public (talk) 16:11, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Spring Launch Media LLC.

Sites
IP
Accounts

All of these accounts are SPAs which add or usurp references. The added sites typically rehost bland public information, such as Social Security Administration name data, o some barely host any content at all. The websites all appear to use variations of the same generic template, and some list "Spring Launch Media, LLC." as the owner. They are pretty sloppy about it, as this edit adds a link to an unrelated site. Grayfell (talk) 01:30, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Additional accounts
Blacklisted. MER-C 18:09, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

organicbreastenlargements.com

Both users blocked indefinitely. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:04, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Controversial Page

Please take off this controversial page which was started on 6th Aug 2019.. this is politically sentitive item and can cause chaos .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azad_Kashmir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erta42 (talkcontribs) 22:51, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Erta42, the page has been there since 2005. Moreover, this is not an issue for WikiProject Spam. If you have real concerns (which you then need to explain in a bit more detail), I suggest you take that to AN/I. Dirk Beetstra T C 05:05, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

moneysavingexpert.com - review requested

moneysavingexpert.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

This was added in November 2018: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2018_Archive_Nov_1#Sponsored_consumer_finance_blogs under a rather pejorative title, with several other sites, by @Newslinger:. MoneySavingExpert.com is not a reliable source. Owned by Moneysupermarket.com, a price comparison site. Most links are to the site's "blog" and "forums" subdomain, and even the pages on the root domain are highly promotional.

I've just run into this tonight, after reworking Boiler Scrappage Scheme. I'd chosen MoneySavingExpert.com deliberately as the most obviously trustworthy and objective UK sore to cover such a topic. I was thus rather surprised to see a blacklist in place! Now maybe it has changed in recent years, but the content I was using here was from 2010, before the sale to Moneysupermarket.

I see this blacklist as quite wrong (and I doubt that it was called for by anyone from the UK). If sections of it are blog or forum content, then we have WP:BLOG and WP:FORUM for that. As to its reliability, it's no different from the personal finance pages of any of the better newspapers. Yes, there is advertising, but the content is objective and widely trusted. It's regarded as well as Consumer Reports, Which etc. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:44, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

The majority of the content in MoneySavingExpert.com is sponsored content, not just the website's blogs and forums. The site's articles are written specifically to enable affiliate marketing, with calls to action encouraging readers to engage in transactions with the site's sponsors. Consumer Reports and Which? operate on paid subscription models that do not have the same conflict of interest issues as the native advertising used by MoneySavingExpert.com. Articles on MoneySavingExpert.com that do not have sponsored content can still be whitelisted. — Newslinger talk 00:00, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  • I see an edit like this as bordering far too close on SOAPBOXing, if not downright vandalism. I would also dispute your claims here. Which doesn't become any more reliable because it uses a subscription model, nor do we exclude entire newspapers because they might run paid advertising. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:23, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
    Here is that edit in context: Special:Diff/922098383/922107846. I replaced MoneySavingExpert.com (a blacklisted site) and Grants Expert (a self-published blog) with The Independent (RSP entry) and The Guardian (RSP entry). The new sources fully support the claims that were referenced to the removed citations. We do, in fact, exclude websites that are too promotionally toned. For example, a recent RfC from September concluded that CoinDesk (RSP entry) should not be used – I actually opposed that RfC because I didn't see CoinDesk publish calls to action, but the promotional tone was enough for there to be consensus to exclude CoinDesk. — Newslinger talk 00:27, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  • That's the problem. No defence of your single-handed blacklisting (I see no RfC on MSE), just removing it wholesale from the article. Your POV tagging of the MSE article [1] isn't much better. It's a site that you have a problem with, and I see no evidence that anyone else does.
As to Grants Expert, then what's your view on the John Rowlinson media empire? (I can guess!) But merely saying "unreliable blog" doesn't make it true. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:40, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I've completed a source review of the Boiler Scrappage Scheme article. You can see all of my changes here: Special:Diff/922098383/922109979. You can restore the removed MoneySavingExpert.com citations after submitting them to WT:WHITELIST, but I don't think they would add anything to the article.

The version of the MoneySavingExpert.com article that I tagged, Special:Permalink/866904148, was highly promotional with a significant volume of inadequately sourced ad-like copy (e.g. "Site elements"). I thank Poppyphilip and 92.9.97.20 for cleaning the article up in Special:Diff/893759162 and Special:Diff/911453620, and I've removed the tags accordingly.

"Grants Under the Boiler Scrappage Scheme", published in GrantsExpert, is a self-published source because it is one person's blog post, and that person (Kevin Watson) is not a subject-matter expert. I'm not aware of any relationship between GrantsExpert and John Rowlinson, and there is no indication that the John Rowlinson described in the About Our Site page is John Shipley Rowlinson or another notable individual.

Feel free to start a discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard if you want to request opinions on MoneySavingExpert.com and GrantsExpert from other editors. — Newslinger talk 00:58, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Just found this conversation and not going to debate it because I've long since given up trying to figure out how some of the decisions are made on Wikipedia. I said all intended to previously. I'll just add that I'm a fan of MSE since close to when it started, I do believe their explanation, here, about how they decide what to write and that it's consumer-driven rather than profit-driven. I only came to this page to give a mea culpa that a lot of the links that were used as evidence that MSE should be put on the blacklist, were in fact added by me in my attempt to give sources to text that was written by linking to the site where external sources were not available. Whether you like the site or not, whether you agree with the site or not, it absolutely does not deserve to be on a spam blacklist as, I assume, such a blacklist is for when a website is actively trying to manipulate Wikipedia. That's absolutely not the case here. Just have a look at the article! I wouldn't believe for a second any employee of MSE had been anywhere near that. It was built by well-meaning fans - myself included - who couldn't write advertising copy, or create a successful spam campaign if we tried. Aldaden (talk) 12:37, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

And by the way, where I have said "here" above is where I tried to link to the MSE "How the site is financed" page. Which, of course, I can't link you to because of this rediculous ban. Aldaden (talk)