Talk:Jade Goody: Difference between revisions

Separate Celeb BB Race Row section?

I am not against their being a comprehensive well sourced page about this subject but I do feel strongly that the Jade page should also cover the subject extensively. This is the biggest event of Jade's career and it should not be censored from her biography. Breed3011 17:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Jade's Mother's Arm

Her mother's arm was damaged in a motorcycle accident.

Which motorcycle?

Neutrality of racism claims

Please be aware that Wikipedia tries to use the best and most verifiable sources. A lot of the sources currently in the racism/Big Brother section are unreliable and biased (eg. so-called "gutter press" newspapers), and already some of their claims have been proven false. Please refrain from using tabloid and other deliberately biased sources unless there is a secondary, more reliable, source to back them up.

• I'm reading the claims of racism and don't see anything that would be considered racist. She insulted a person who happened to be Indian but there's nothing wrong with that. It cracks me up to see the British public tripping all over themselves looking for racism.142.161.74.33 18:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

why did she admit it then? 82.22.170.75 19:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The Indian girl has the advantage over Jade Goody, in the fact that she is probably certain who her real father is. 80.192.242.187 21:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.

While a lot of people have been quick to scream racist at Jade a lot of black, mixed-race and Asian people I have spoken to have not considered her racist and Shilpa Shetty has been adamant that Jade is not a racist. having been on the receiveing end of racism from black and white people alike, I find it disturbing that someone is being called a racist without knowing the full facts. By the way I am mixed-race myself.

Charity info

Recently this article has been bombarded by information about Jade's NSPCC run, some of which I have removed, as I feel that (a) it is a form of advertising, (b) it is probably no longer current and (c) it was in the wrong format. (Eg. "To donate on-line, please visit http://www.justgiving.com/JadeGoody"). This text was added by User:80.192.18.18, whose only contributions have been to this article. PR, possibly? --^pirate 16:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

No one is that stupid

Oh come on, did she seriously say the stuff in the quotes section? — Gulliver ✉ 03:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes she did. On (mostly) live TV. It was like watching a verbal car crash. Rockpocket (talk) 04:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Even the stuff like "a sparagus"? I mean, if it was spoken rather than written, how do we know she was saying "a sparagus" rather than "asparagus". We could only know for sure if she said something like "one sparagus, two sparaguses". — Gulliver ✉ 05:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Good point. I don't remember specifically, but i expect she was asked to clarify what she said, so everyone could have a good laugh at her. Incidently, here is another classic, talking about her abortive marathon attempt: "I knew it was 26 miles but I didn't know how far a mile was....I think it was a massive achievement to do 21 miles. I was just gutted because I only had four miles to go." [1]. Personally i think she has cultivated a media image and it is in her interest to live up to it now, but the early quotes on the page are all 100% genuine from her time on Big Brother.

It was riveting. Listen for yourself: here is an mp3 from the show, of an exchange she had with a guy (Spencer) who, if memory serves, worked punting on the river Cam, in Cambridge (which, oddly enough, is not in London). Genius, eh? Rockpocket (talk) 07:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Gulliver - I believe she said "What are sparaguses?". Fantom 14:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Looking at this page after working on the article, it appears that I have put back in some material which has been removed. Goody's behaviour in 2002, with quotes, should be described in the article, as her rise to a sort of fame can only be understood if it can be shown to have a form of perverse rationality behind it. Philip Cross 20:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Remember her first foray into Big Brother in 2002. At the end of the first week, she and another girl were up for eviction. Jade broke down into tears and was hysterical. To calm Jade down, the other girl volunteered to leave. When she had left, Jade calmed down and was happy, and seemed to be smug. Seemed she'd do anything to stay in the house and win. DrPaulLee 13:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Lynne didn't volunteer to leave, the other housemates had to choose between Lynne and Jade and they all chose Lynne to be evicted. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

"Further career"

I haven't got much of a clue when it comes to editing wikipedia, but this section seems to contain stuff that I wouldn't say meets the title - the main example being:

"On October 4, 2005 Goody was arrested on suspicion of shoplifting a £16 denim jacket from an Asda supermarket in Essex. She was later released after police decided there was not enough evidence to charge her. [1]."

It's useful information, but not really part of her "Career". Should this be moved to another section called "Other notable events", or a better title than I can think of right now? 86.135.8.237 22:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I beg to differ, Jade's career is the generation of public interest in whatever she happens to be doing, and by that definition even being arrested for shoplifting is part of it. --JamesTheNumberless 16:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

The Jade Goody article says she is dating jeff brazier, that relationship is over she is in fact dating jack tweedy!!!

Jade Goody's boyfriend is called Jack Tweed, not Jack Tweedy.TammiMagee 09:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

- I understand his name is Tweedy aka Tweed. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2505001/ Daxx wp 10:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Daxx_wp

Ketchup

Her phobia of ketchup was referred to on The Friday Night Project when she was guest host, they were teasing her with a bottle of it. Also it was mentioned when she was in Big Brother. Does that count as a source? — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

No, but it could count as a sauce. --Thoughtcat 11:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Her fear of tomato sauce is talked about in her autobiography also TammiMagee 15:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

A few inappropriate edits to the first paragraph have been made (i.e. falsed date of death, cause listed as "beaten to death by Jermaine Jackson, using a rubber dildo) 82.32.8.33 00:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I've requested that this article be semi-protected due to the amount of vandalism here at the moment. Gasheadsteve 12:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Mixed Race?

Is Jade Goody of mixed race descent? I have read that she has a Black father and thought this should be mentioned in the article if true.

Cypriot stud 13:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

If it's a reliable source, go ahead and add it to the article. Remember to cite your source. Gasheadsteve 13:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

She said it on tonight's episode of Big Brother, but I have no idea how, or even if it's possible, to cite that. BertieBasset 20:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Raises the question of whether Jade Goody is a reliable source ;-) Gretnagod 20:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Is there a transcript online? - Kittybrewster 17:18, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Jade's Mother said the same, as reported on the BBC News website http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6277301.stm

By the way, Jade's mum's Christian name is spelt "Jackiey". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DrPaulLee (talk • contribs) 10:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC).

Isn't she coloured

I heard she's a quarter black, if this is true isn't there a kind of category for her? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Williamdevino (talk • contribs) 22:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC).

I thought a quater black was a position in baseball or something? Coloured is almost always a derogatory term for a non-white person and has only ever been clearly defined as a mixed raced person in Apartheit South Africa. Why the need to comprehensively categorise? She fits into both categories of people with English ancestry and people with afro-carribean ancestry. With so many combinations of ethnicity around us it confuses things horribly if we want to try to find terms for each of them. Goodness knows what you call an Anglo-Irish-Indo-Aryan-Dravidian-Indo-Carribean-Viking like myself. (except possibly mongrel - actually that might not be such an inappropriate term for Jade...) --JamesTheNumberless 11:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Spelling

Jade Goody's mother is Jackie Goody please edit spelling on page that is currently spelt Jackiey. It is either 'ie' or 'y'.

"Jackiey" is the correct spelling of Jade Goody's mother's name, and her name is Jackiey Budden, not Goody. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Jade Goody's official website???

That isn't Jade Goody's official website. Shouldn't it be removed? It is just a fansite that is actually down for maintenance at the moment.

Kings College?

Two seperate IPs had edited the article to suggest (first) that Jade was a graduate of Kings College London and (then) of King's College, Cambridge. The wording was POV, plus I could find nowhere to verify either fact, this included searching the Kings College Alumni database. It sources can be cited, then please restore the information. Y control 14:18, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Quite seriously, what are the chances Jade good spell the name of either university, much less attend one of them?--Zoso Jade 09:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

She was a dental nurse wasn't she? King's College london has a large medical school so it's likely that whatever qualification she got might have been awarded/regulated by King's College. However, it is unlikely that she studied there.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by JamesTheNumberless (talk • contribs) 14:33, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

Racisim & Bullying in the Big Brother House

What's happening to the bully's page.

I can't believe that Jade is allowed to get away with bullying Shilpa Shetty. This sends out a bad message to the rest of the world - that the UK will continue to sit back and condone racisim and bullying. The show should be pulled or Jade and other contestants asked to leave immediately.

What kind of example does this set to our kids?

Please, Wikipedia is not the place to discuss this. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Could someone please edit Wikipedia itself so this page is called something other than 'discussion' please?

I chose to remove comprehensive details of Goody's controversial statements as those that are already present give an idea as to the source of people's complaints. Philip Cross 20:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Philip. Sorry to bother you but I do not agree with your deletion in Jade good. I agree that this is a controversial topic, but that should not stop us from putting the facts in the article. Infact facts are always better than wild rumors. If you do not put these facts in an encyclopedia article, then people will go to the blogs and forums to search for the actual comments and generally in doing so they will read the comments or rumors which are far worse than the facts. Actually most of her forums have now turned into hate forums so it is hard it differentiate fact from fiction from blogs etc. see {http://www.jadegoodyonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=221} and {http://www.jadegoodyonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=186}. Wikipedia has never censored its articles or comments etc if they are verifyable. see [2], Prince Henry of Wales, Lewinsky scandal or Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. so why should we remove it form this article. people should know what was actually said and what was not said so that they would not get biased by the article. I think that it becomes even more important in controversial topics like this. merely stating that Jade Goddy is racist is like doing injustice to her as it can be just ordinary bullying, which is common every where. reader should decide it himself. he does not need our help in that. If you do not think that this is correct then I guess that we should discuss the deletion with other wikipedians in the talk section before deleting it. Preetikapoor0 21:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Good argument - i concur. Antonious 20:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Huh? "ordinary bullying, which is common everywhere." Might be in London, but thank goodness, not in most other places. Wallie 00:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

People who were "sad" enought (like me) to watch the live streaming saw the whole bullying incident in a different manner. Jade was not responsible for all the bullying but she is blamed for it all like a scapegoat. Shilpa was not innocent, you know. Big Brother's Big Brain did a whole show on how manipulative and controlling Shilpa Sheety was. This was the second BBBB of the series. Shilpa acutally used to confront Jade and Jackiey and this was what annoyed them, When they responded to Shilpa she stepped back and allowed them to take the flack. the point is this: is it okay to incite people to anger and then condemn the when they lose their temper?

I saw the live streaming too and is true that Shilpa did, indeed, talk to Jade and Jackiey before they pounced on her - I wasn't aware that asking people to learn to say your name and stop referring to you as the Indian was classed as incitement. Breed3011 17:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of a Stupid, Unsourced Sentence

I took out a sentence that said Jade Goody regularly attends Neo-Nazi and KKK meetings. This was unsourced and probably a complete fabrication. TammiMagee 15:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

..."probably" being the operative word ;) --Richj1209 20:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

• Making comments after less than a month of being an editor, you dont have enough experience. 1B6 15:43, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

1B6, who are you to tell me that i do not have enough experience to edit? I know when things are blatently false and need erasing. Stop being some sort of smart alec!TammiMagee 10:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Tammi - I wouldnt wonder too much about 1BG - if you click here

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you will find the real reason for his comment Breed3011 19:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Talk page cleared up

I've just deleted a bunch of stuff from this talk page that doesn't belong here. Please remember that the discussion page is for discussing changes to the article, not for discussing the subject of the article. Also, please bear in mind that the same rules about unsourced negative information on living people apply to the talk page just as much as they do to the article. See Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons for further information. Thanks. Gasheadsteve 17:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of this, but I see no good reason why you deleted my comment - "I remember reading in some tabloid a few years ago that Jade Goody's real father, whose name I believe was Andrew Goody, died of a drug overdose in a McDonald's restaurant toilets in London, if I'm not mistaken." This could be verified and added to the article. --HisSpaceResearch 13:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I guess I got a bit overzealous with removing messages. There was so much stuff here that was just pure abuse and completely unconstructive, your message obviously got lost in the middle of it. Sorry again. Gasheadsteve 15:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Alright... I've found multiple online sources to support the claim I made, which I will add to the article.--HisSpaceResearch 15:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Ahem. Dear everyone. Please could we change the article. There you go, hope that's helped; it was the best I could do to stay on topic.

Jade Goody.jpg - Fair use?

I've added Jade_Goody.jpg to the profile at the top of the page. Only thing is that it's copyright, and I'm not too sure if it's fair use. Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks Jammie 21:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Interesting question. My interpretation of the rules is that it is fair use for as long as she's locked in the BB house, but not when she comes out. Fair use includes images where a free alternative cannot be created, and seeing as she's locked away noone can make an alternative image, but when she comes out anyone can take a photo of her so it won't be fair use any more. Gasheadsteve 06:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

She was on BB in 2002, there have been 4 years to make alternative images..... I'm sure there must be one out there. Ryanuk 07:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Updated information

a record number of more than 32,000 comments have been made to ofcom (on article it say 28,000) could someone update it please

We'll need a source. - ^Рэд_хот^{(t • c • e)} 23:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Net worth source

Just thought I'd note that the source provided is invalid, as its just a Wikipedia mirror. Another source is needed. - ^Рэд_хот^{(t • c • e)} 23:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Seems that she is worth less than that. I have found this quote- How much is she worth? Some reports suggest she has made more than £4million in the past few years; however, someone who works with her told us the figure was nearer £2 million. From The Daily Mail, which isn't the most reliable of sources, but certainly beats answers.com. J Milburn 12:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, someone provided a source while I was writing that. Seems my googling has gone to waste. J Milburn 12:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Racism

I have removed this category from the article. She explicitly said that while she understands how her comments could have been interpreted as racist, that that wasn't how she intended them. Therefore this certainly seems to be "potentially libelous". - ^Рэд_хот^{(t • c • e)} 23:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Racism is not a category of racists but a category of articles about racism or racism-related events, even accusations of racism that are disputed. Thus, this belongs here. India Rising 11:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Many people think she is ignorant, rude, aggressive and vulgar but not racist. - Kittybrewster 16:49, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe she is racist along with approximately 82% of the people who voted for Big Brother.Antonious 00:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they wanted to keep the pretty, educated, polite one! - Kittybrewster 13:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Introduction

Why are Jade's actions terms as "elitist"? Surely bullying with associated allegations of racism would suffice? Nach0king 14:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Elitist?

Now, I do not like Ms Goody at all but she has certainly not got an elitist bone in her body. In the UK she is a flag-waving member of the lower class and one of her frequent attacks on Shilpa was that the Indian actress was too elitist. Jade Goody has made a name on an anti-elitist front. Some of her comments about Shilpa might have been taken as racist or ignorant, but she didn't make a single comment that could be regarded as elitist. On the contrary, one of her rants at Shilpa was "We're all equal here. You're not some queen".--Zoso Jade 15:44, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Jade's childhood

There's an interesting article in the current issue of heat magazine, which gives loads of details from Jade's childhood, just wondered if any of it would be of any use to this article, or Jackiey's article. I think it's taken from her forthcoming autobiography. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

She Can't Be Racist because shes mixed raced?

You can still be racist to a particular race of people even if you are mixed race. Her father was black and mother is white. It doesn't mean they can't discriminate against Asian people. Antonious 00:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

And for that matter, my former landlady was mixed race (black/white) and had a violent hatred of black people (she had quite a few 'issues' generally). Probably an unusual case but just shows it can happen. Milvinder 13:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

To say you can't be racist, if you have mixed race, means there would be nearly no racists on the planet! Does anyone know a person that is not of mixed raced? I can't think of any. Tony Blair maybe. Even the Queen has mixed blood! Wallie 16:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but when the component of your ancestry is small enough it becomes negligible. Just because Iain Duncan-Smith is 1/8 Japanese by descent doesn't mean he is Japanese in any meaningful sense of the word, similarly a great many West Indians probably have white descent somewhere along the line but would describe themselves as black. And just because of my ultra-distant Dutch ancestry people are hardly going to consider me Dutch, although having said that during the 1st World War my grandmother's family were forced to put an ad in the local paper to point out that they weren't German. Anyway, there's probably enough for a very long separate article here, it goes rather beyond the scope of Jade Goody (you should see some of the people in the 'Mixed Race People' category - Iain Duncan Smith is one of them!) Milvinder 01:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

According to the article, Jade's grandfather was black. It is suggested that Adolf Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Whilst we cannot compare a few ill-chosen, potentially racist comments with the systematic slaughter of 5 million Jews, gypsies and homosexuals, I think that the general point can be considered valid - Anyone can be racist about anyone else. Paul-b4 10:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

As with most of that kind of semi- British, semi- black, she's insecure about herself and so she insults another person about their race.

Willem989 12:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Channel 4 'Briefing'

(Channel 4) Pre-briefed Goody about the reaction outside, probably from the Thursday evening

Channel 4 has gone on the record to deny this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6284563.stm Might have to remove this line. Indisciplined 16:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually i guess, you misunderstood the citation. According to the BBC - they do say that Producers insist the housemates have not been told about the storm of criticism surrounding the programme. but they also say that A Channel 4 spokeswoman admitted Big Brother had intervened in the latest row - but only to make contestants "realise that what they have said has been misconstrued in the house". The idea, she said, was to allow the housemates "to explain themselves" to their fellow inmates.. In other words contestants now at least have an idea of what is going on outside. see Are housemates aware of race row? BBC. Also Jade said inside the house before she left: "I know why there's no noise." When Shilpa asked "Why?" Jade replied: "I know, but I can't tell you." NO CROWD NO SHOCK.. NO REALITY Shame of Jade's stage-managed exit Mirror Preetikapoor0 14:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

What could be more clear? "Channel 4 has denied warning Jade Goody about the racism storm surrounding Big Brother and coaching her before she left the show to minimise the damage." "A spokeswoman said Goody 'was not coached by [production company] Endemol or Channel 4' before her eviction."

Did you not watch CBB? Jade was talking to Big Brother about having a crowd there (in her words, "I don't no crowd there or any of that nonsense"), so when there was no crowd she immediately put 2+2 together: This is BIG. For many years people have said "Jade is dumb, but she must be smart in some way to have made a success of herself", and here we got to witness what she's actually good at; understanding how the media works. She's utterly useless at everything else, but there's a reason she's become so popular, she's not totally dumb. Johnny "ThunderPeel2001" Walker 23:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

In an interview with the Daily Star, Jade admitted that, during her final hours in the Channel 4 house, Big Brother had revealed that her abuse of Shilpa had ruined her own “girl-next-door” image.Evicted Jade talks exclusively to the Daily Star. That makes it pretty clear. As this is an interview, it can not be a rumor. You can also see that she did not show any surprise after hearing the news of eviction. Preetikapoor0 00:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to throw this one in, people, but what about the fact(?) that Jade's eviction wasn't actually shown live - I heard that she was released 10 minutes after the result was announced, and spent a good deal of time being "prepped" by "her people" before Davina's interview (which was also pre-recorded.) Paul-b4 10:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I have attended several evictions and most interviews are started during the break. This allows for editing out anything undesirable. Although it is live when there are issues things change. After Jo and Cleo's eviction a fight started out and no one wsa allowed to take food or drinks into the eviction for fear that they would be hurled at the evictees. There was a LOT of extra security measures and we were not even allowed to stay until after the interviews. we were ushered home as soon as Jo and Cleo were ushered through the press to the studio.

shilpa shetty's comments

Removing shilpa shetty's comments. She is still inside the house and does not know what jade said behind her back. So I guess, we should not put her comments in the article now. let her come out. Preetikapoor0 19:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Which comments? I think Shilpa heard the worst of everything Jade said! What comments specifically are you referring to? Johnny "ThunderPeel2001" Walker 23:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Shilpa didn't hear the vast majority of the "offending" comments. "Shilpa Poppadom", "She should just fuck off home","She can't speak English properly", where they made fun of her accent, just to name a few.--Zoso Jade 23:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Jade did NOT say those comments. Please check your facts before altering a Wikipedia article, thanks.Johnny "ThunderPeel2001" Walker 13:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

some other examples. "I've seen how she goes in and out of people's arseholes"and -Shilpa's head is so high up her ass that she can smell her own shit. Preetikapoor0 00:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

These comments were made to her face.Johnny "ThunderPeel2001" Walker 13:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

She was made aware of the "Shilpa Poppadom" comment. I think it is fair to add Shilpa's comments, but make a note that she is still in the house and may not be aware of all of what was said.- Deathrocker 08:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

She was made aware of "Shilpa Poppadom" after she stated Jade isn't racist.--Zoso Jade 13:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Totally agree with Zoso Jade. Let her comeout. Let her listen to everything. Let her decide. Then only we should put her comments. Preetikapoor0 19:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

(I think that) I have seen in print all of Goody's offending words and actions and I can't see anything racist about any of them. What, for example, is racist about calling Shilpa "Shilpa Popadom"? Is "popadom" an offensive word? Do Indian people not eat popadoms?

You don't understand what racism is. Racism isn't just about using a few taboo words anymore. Words are only offensive if the motivation behind uttering them is to be offensive and hurtful. Many black American say "nigger" to reclaim the word from racists - therefore the word "nigger" isn't necessarily racist. Similarly "poppadom" isnt normally an offensive word but the context Jade used it in was motivated by racism (which she admitted) ie What was Jade's motivation for saying it? She used it in the context of bitching behind her back. If Jade found Shilpa so irritating she could have called her Shilpa Whiney-voice or Shilpa Control-freak but Jade chose to mock the fact she is Indian - ie she racially mocked Shilpa.

Of course, discerning what people's motives are is a subjective thing and a hard thing to prove - which is the reason why this debate has become so large and the reason why channel 4 found it difficult to decide when to intervene. The racism is not overt (apart from a few Danielle comments). It is subtle and each example of Jade's bullying could be explained away as something else ie envy, clash of class, clash of culture, girly rivalry, scape goating. "Shilpa Poppadom" was the only example of an outright race based insult that Jade uttered which is the reason it has been leapt on as it proves there was a racial element to the bullying even if it wasnt the main reason. That is why Jade was forced to admit it was racism and why BB intervened on that instance. Breed3011 23:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup tag

I added the cleanup tag; the article needs wikification, cleanup and standardisation of punctuation and spacing around refs, and some cleanup and tightening of the prose. Anchoress 01:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Autobiography axed?

I read in London's Evening_Standard that "Disgraced Goody's autobiography axed". It reads that "HarperCollins had been due to publish "Jade: My Autobiography" on 5th of February but bosses at the publishing house have pulled the plug as a result of Goody's alleged racially motivated bullying of fellow contestant Shilpa Shetty."

This is refering only to the paperback version.

I don't want to add this into the article without an online source, which I cannot find. However, this is sourced; I uploaded a picture of the article here (note: I didn't upload to Wikipedia because it won't be used in an article). Thoughts? JoshHolloway 16:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Found a source at The BBC (paragraph 5). Added to article. JoshHolloway 17:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Comeuppance?

I replaced the heading "Comeuppance" with "Aftermath". Comeuppance insinuates she deserved to have her windows smashed, and that being insulted by Katie Price is some kind of punishment. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kronix1986 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

Paper back release of Jade: My Autobiography

I read in the Daily Express today that the publishing company will not be re-releasing Jade's biography in paperback. I'm going to look for some confirmation now. This would be relevant material to include right? Mazten 23:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

See Talk:Jade Goody#Autobiography axed? :). JoshHolloway 18:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Running career

[4]. Say no more. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.13.11.154 (talk) 15:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

Top Gear

I found Clarksons comment, on TopGear last night, quite funny. He called Jade Goody a 'Racist, Pigfaced, Waste of Blood and Organs'. Although, I wouldn't agree that she is racist! 80.192.242.187 21:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.

And? This is a talk page for the article, not a forum discussing the subject. JoshHolloway 15:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)