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French to English translations

I've had a shot at overhauling the article. All contributions or suggestions for improvement welcome. In particular if anyone who has a better grip on idiomatic French than I have would like to adjust my more stilted efforts at translation I'd be most grateful. Tim riley talk 20:33, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I found myself consulting this article partly because i remember seeing on BBC2 many years ago (1970s? 1980s?) a wonderful series of farces (most if not all, i think, by Feydeau) in translation, under the series title Oo La La. I was hoping that someone had inserted a paragraph about this series. I hope someone yet might! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9BB3:4500:E88C:CB37:C899:A4CB (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments

First batch – the biography section.

1880s

• "Cercle des arts intimes" and "secrétaire general" Should they be in italics? (I can never remember where the lines are drawn for names and titles in foreign languages)

• Yes, I think itals are right. Done. (I dithered over leaving "secrétaire general" in French, but "secretary general" seemed too grand, somehow.) Tim riley talk 21:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• "three-act comédie": this is the only point you italicise "comédie" - all the other references (mostly, I think, in the Works section are just given as "comédie". I don't know which is correct, but consistency would be best - even if incorrect!

• I itch to make them all just "comedy", but there is a difference between the more precise French term "comédie" and our catch-all English "comedy" and I think I must stick with the French term. I'll unitalicise, I think. Tim riley talk 21:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

1890s

• There are some places in the translations where the italic are inconsistent, so we have in quick succession: "called The Other Fellow opened ... Le Système Ribadier (The Ribadier System, 1892) ... (under the title His Little Dodge) ... La Ruban (The Ribbon)". Further down you go for quote marks rather than italics when you have "Le Dindon (literally "The Turkey" but in French usage signifying "The Dupe")". If the latter two are translations, rather than translated titles, perhaps just "Le Dindon (literally "Turkey" but in French usage signifying "Dupe")"?

• Excellent suggestion. Makes the distinction clearer. Shall do. Tim riley talk 21:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• There are a couple of places where you have "1896–97": I think I'm right that the MoS now asks for "1896–1897"

• The MoS, with an unexpected outbreak of common sense, allows the 4+2 digit for consecutive years, as here. Tim riley talk 21:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Last years

• "Je ne trompe pas mon mari (I don't cheat on my husband, 1914)": Shouldn't the translation be capitalised?

• Hmm. Shall ponder. Actual English titles should certainly be capitalised, but I'm not sure about my English translations of the French titles. Tim riley talk 21:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

I'll cover the Works and the rest later. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 10:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Just one comment from the Works section:

• "Reviewers in Feydeau's time used both terms –"vaudeville" and "farce" – to label his plays": What, the French ones as well?

• The English critics occasionally used the term "vaudevilles" but generally stuck to "farces", and it was specifically the French critics to whom I referred. Now clarified. . Tim riley talk 21:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

That's my lot, and I'm not sure about half of them as they seem to be about italics! Enjoyable and entertaining reading. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:14, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I'll enjoy working through these points over the weekend. Tim riley talk 10:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

All now done, I think, except the italics and ulc points, on which I'll ponder further. Some very useful comments – thank you more than much. Tim riley talk 12:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Navbox

I suggest a navbox for the writer, to have an easy overview of his most notable works and their adaptations. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Infobox

Can we just get this out of the way? Dronebogus (talk) 15:06, 26 September 2023 (UTC)