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Mark Dice YouTube Statistics

If this is a discussion about Mark Dice is is missing 90 percent of his work and grossly understating the number of people that watch him every day, and his television appearances, number of number one books he has written and number of videos he has posted. Censorship is what i see here. Dan Guthrey (talk) 20:09, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold and add that information with citations to reliable sources. Keep in mind the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, though. Furthermore, it's our policy that Wikipedia is not censored. — fourthords | =Λ= | 20:29, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is no censorship; Wikipedia summarizes what appears in independent reliable sources; there may not be any such sources for that information. If you have such sources, please offer them. 331dot (talk) 21:05, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dan, you may want to read the WP:NPOV policy. Neutral on Wikipedia probably doesn't mean what you think it does. It's not about given equal space / consideration to all views, but to presenting views in relative weight / perspective as seen in independent reliable sources. The goal is to not present a false balance, but to give the reader an idea of how the views are generally seen. You see barely any mention of the moon landings being faked because those views are nearly universally considered garbage. There's an article about those views, and a bare mention because it does get mentioned in reliable sources from time to time, but that's it. Ravensfire (talk) 21:25, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have said this before, the truly notable do not need everything they have ever done listed.Slatersteven (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How come if I look up Destiny, a YouTube and Twitch streamer, I can conveniently see on his sidebar that he has about 80 million YouTube views on his channel. Meanwhile, I look on the even more popular Mark Dice's Wikipedia page and I can't even see any stats for him? That is withholding vital information from people who view this page. (NOTE: I altered the title of this section since it seems to be discussing adding his YouTube statistics)JettaMann (talk) 18:20, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How come if I look up Destiny, a YouTube and Twitch streamer, I can conveniently see on his sidebar that he has about 80 million YouTube views on his channel. In contravention with our SOPs, an editor has added that information without verifying it to reliable, third-party sources. That is withholding vital information from people who view this page. It's apparently not vital enough: none of the acceptable sources we've cultivated in the article mention such. If you have further reliable sourcing, please share it here. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:15, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Past "careers"

There's some good info on RationalWiki on his past careers as a get-rich-quickly salesman, and a selling "improve your memory" books which supposedly train you to memorize customer credit cards at gas stations.

Can it be used in this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsugekumene (talk • contribs) 12:18, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No its a wiki, and this not an RS>Slatersteven (talk) 12:42, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As said, the RationalWiki itself cannot be used as a reliable source for verification because it's user-generated content. If such pages use reliable sources, we can harvest those, but I visited the Mark Dice page previously and didn't find any we could use. — fourthords | =Λ= | 16:00, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Who owns this page?

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The editor who asked this question 22 days ago has not edited since. The question has been answered adequately should they return to view these replies. Debate about how long edit requests generally take to get handled is not a subject for an article talk page. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:32, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Who owns and has access to this page for editing? Because Mark Dice is a published author and has a degree in journalism. Also he is most famous for being a conservative YouTube star. Dmmeds56 (talk) 01:48, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dmmeds56: Because of the extensive amount of disruption to the article, new accounts do not have access to the article for editing. (The article has been protected.) They may request edits here on the talk page and must cite reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 01:52, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dmmeds56, if you have reliable sources we can use to expand and/or enhance the article, please link or list them here so they can be mined for info. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 12:09, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dmmeds56 No one, including the subject, "owns" the article(not just "page"). See WP:OWN. 331dot (talk) 12:16, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can make an edit request though. But be aware they can take weeks to implement.--Thinker78 (talk) 15:08, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Thinker78: just noticed this. My experience, and I have thousands of articles on my watchlist, is that would be very unusual They're usually dealt within within a da, at the most a week. Please don't discourage people from making edit requests. I see this editor hasn't edited since the day they made this request. Doug Weller talk 05:29, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: Experience can be anecdotical. Please refer to evidence, which says that edit requests can take weeks to resolve.--Thinker78 (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Each article is protected for some specific reason. That list is specifically for unanswered requests, which makes it a biased sample. It would be unusual, but not impossible, for a request to take that long. If there is some specific change to this article which is being proposed, spell it out. Otherwise, this isn't the place to complain about backlog. Grayfell (talk) 23:29, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 September 2019

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Hello, my edit request is regarded Mark Dice's bio/description. In the description it says quote " conspiracy theorist " this is incorrect in that all of his so called conspiracy theories were for comedic purposes and should not be taken seriously, for these reasons I think that the editors should remove Conspiracy Theories from the description. In his book 'The Illuminati: Facts & Fiction' he was not promoting conspiracy theories rather he was separating fact from fiction, and in the first few pages of the book stated the "I am not a conspiracy theorist." Thank You for your time. ^[1]7 71.112.160.88 (talk) 18:15, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.amazon.com/Illuminati-Facts-Fiction-Mark-Dice/dp/0967346657

Not done: Since the description comes from independent sources, we'll go with how they label him, rather than how Dice labels himself. —C.Fred (talk) 18:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Dice

Why is Wikipedia far left and why must you be so biased against conservitives??????

Why would Wikipedia lie about a conservitive and build up socialist????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.68.183.110 (talk) 19:37, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To quote Stephen Colbert, "reality has a well-known liberal bias." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:41, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No one forces you to read Wikipedia. You are free to find your own echo chamber that will tell you what you want to hear and better fits with your political views. Wikipedia will continue to summarize what independent reliable sources state and let readers decide for themselves what is true. See WP:TRUTH. 331dot (talk) 19:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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	:To quote Stephen Colbert, "reality has a well-known liberal bias." [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång\|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång\|talk]]) 19:41, 6 October 2019 (UTC)		:To quote Stephen Colbert, "reality has a well-known liberal bias." [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång\|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång\|talk]]) 19:41, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
			:No one forces you to read Wikipedia. You are free to find your own echo chamber that will tell you what you want to hear and better fits with your political views. Wikipedia will continue to summarize what independent [[WP:RS\|reliable sources]] state and let readers decide for themselves what is true. See [[WP:TRUTH]]. [[User:331dot\|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot\|talk]]) 19:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)