User talk:Raul654

For your tireless work in making Wikipedia better, for keeping Template:Feature up-to-date, for doing the grunt work of cleaning up Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, for mediating in disputes, for adding lots of really nice pictures, and for still finding the time to work on articles! In a few months you've already become a highly valued member of the community. Stay with us and don't burn out, please. --Eloquence Apr 10, 2004

• Archive 1: August 2003 - November 2003
• Archive 2: December 2003 - March 2004
• Archive 3: April 2004 - July 2004
• Archive 4: August 2004 - November 2004
• Archive 5: December 2004 - March 2005
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• Archive 7: August 2005 - November 2005
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• Archive 9: April 2006 - July 2006
• Archive 10: August 2006 - November 2006
• Archive 11: December 2006 - February 2007
• Archive 12: March 2007 - May 2007

Categories versus lists

In discussing biota by country, and whether they should be lists or categories, a user mentioned that categories had been started because there were too many long lists. I notice you have the first post on the current WP:Categorization. Know anything about the reasoning behind implenting categories? Thanks. KP Botany 00:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

A request from on old FAC contributor

I know its been a while since I've been a regular FAC contributor, but I have a request to make. I know there's probably a page to formally request this, but I can't find it. I have a friend in real life who has a lot of issues. Because his favorite movie is the Boondock Saints, could you please make it the FA for August 19th, which is his birthday? It's an FA, and if it still meets the mark, it would mean a lot to me, and my friend, if that were the day's FA. It would be a great gesture. Let me know. Either way, thanks a lot, not only for hearing my request, but for all of the work you do. RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 00:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom activity

Hi. We have you listed as currently inactive for calculating the majority in pending ArbCom cases. I saw that today you offered proposals and voted in InShaneee. Please advise if you want us to move you back to active status in the other pending cases that are in the evidence or voting stages. Thanks, Newyorkbrad 01:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

No, my intention (at least of this writing) is to intervene in the Inshanee case. Raul654 21:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Autoblock of 208.57.179.100

Hi, I had sent two emails back in February but haven't received a response regarding an autoblock of an IP. I've reproduced them below:

• There's an IP (208.57.179.100) that was auto-blocked as being used by "Cplot", who's apparently a user who had been banned earlier in the year. I'm a registered Wikipedian & sometimes login from work; this happens to be the IP that comes up from my work address. Looking at the modifications made by 208.57.179.100, however, I don't think it ever had anything to do with Cplot...? Perhaps it was misidentified?
• ...from looking at your page, it seems that you guys blocked the entire Class B subnet that "Cplot" was using, so that's where the block comes from. I believe that XO Communications sub-leases portions of the Class B from MPower, although I don't know how much. Can this be pared down to the appropriate class C subnet, for example?

And, actually, looking above, it seems that other people have also complained about the block of the Class B as well. Thanks in advance. --Diogenes00 00:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocking class C's is ineffective - Cplot has access to so many of them that his supply is effectively inexhaustable (see Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Cplot). The blocks on those ranges were unfortunate but necessary. Raul654 14:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VII reverts

Hey, you might want to keep a closer eye on your reverts; you did this three times reverting today's FA. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the first time I did that, I went back to an earlier version and reverted, but apparently that revert to a legitimate version got edit conflicted out by some damned anon blanking the article. After that, it wasn't too difficult for me to keep reverting to the same bad versoin. Raul654 01:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for catching my mistake. Raul654 01:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hehe. No problem. I was confused by all the edit conflicts I was getting. Easy to see what happened after looking at the history. --Onorem 01:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Converting Sound

Can u help to convert the sound at http://www.baruah.in/wiki/kaziranga.wav for the article Kaziranga National Park. The article is upoladed by another wikipedia member User:Bikram98. pls hekp. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 05:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What's the copyright status on that recording? Raul654 00:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Final Fantasy VII

You removed the talkpage organization scheme with the comment "my eyes, they burn". Was that in regard to the small text of the two boxes? I personally feel it looks a lot more organized using the format, although I do think that the two small boxes are better off as normal. — Deckiller 18:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Meta-tempaltes within metatempates are awful. In addition, the talk header template IMO should be deleted; by any standard it doesn't belong on that page. Raul654 21:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Kansas turnpike

Drawing your attention to Wikipedia:Featured article review/Kansas Turnpike. Gimmetrow 22:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I've deleted the page - FAR is not an appeal for failed FACs. Raul654 23:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure it's based on some confusion with the GA process, where GA/R can be used to appeal failures. Also drawing your attention to one cross-namespace redirect - been in place since July 2004. Gimmetrow 00:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Cross namespace redirects aren't bad unless they go out of the main namespace (and yes, that redirect does amuse me) Raul654 00:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

In regards to this article, it mainly failed because the concerns were addressed, yet people didn't fix their votes. What would you suggest at this point? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• I would have been willing to let it go a bit longer if *somebody* had (besides the nominator, obviously) had supported it. After chatting on IRC about it with SPUI, I offered to renominate it (normally renominating it so soon would be considered bad form, but in this case an exception can be made). Raul654 03:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Closing FACs

Did you mean to put this in the section below named closing FAC's? --Joopercoopers 23:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops - thanks for the hint. Raul654 23:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone else closed an FAC

Someone who isn't even an administrator just closed this: [1] . I thought you were the only one who closed FACs? Personally I think the article will not be FA quality in the near future, however the closing looks weird to me. Kla'quot 02:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly. First I removed it from the FAC and archived it, and then Gimmetrow's bot worked it over. This is how things are supposed to work - nothing strange here. Raul654 03:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see what happened now. Sorry, my mistake there. Kla'quot 03:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot shooting

Be nice to bots [2], they often feel unloved, and if you break them too hard then you are showered in small parts and springs and gizmos popping out in all directions. Georgewilliamherbert 03:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Bots which do useful work (God bless User:GimmeBot) deserve many songs of praise; nag-bots deserve a bullet. Raul654 14:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding an old image of yours: Image:NYC meetup Jimbo.jpg

Could you please either relicense this photo under a free license or delete it? I would think that Jimbo Wales would readily agree that this photo should be under the GFDL or another free license. I am surprised that someone who is an administrator would have a photo with a licensing mess as this one. Also, you might want to go through your back catalog of old photos and clean up any similar licensing messes as this one. I have seen some discussion of changing policy to kick off a massive speedy deletion campaign against all noncommercial use images a month or two ago, and I do not remember where the discussion was. Thank you for your time. Jesse Viviano 07:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Usernames

Hello. I'm trying to create accounts with the usernames Geber and Safa but both seem not to work. There are no contributions with these usernames. Can I obtain them? Waiting-for-username 12:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It is quite impolite not to answer to my request. Waiting-for-username 13:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Both accounts have been registered but have not been used to edit. See Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations Raul654 14:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Challenge answer

I believe I have the answer: you are the source. — Deckiller 01:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect. Raul654 01:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Your evil twin? — Deckiller 01:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect. Raul654 01:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. Google came up with no hits. — Deckiller 01:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It wouldn't be much of a challenge if you could Google the answer :)

Would a hint help? Raul654 01:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah :) — Deckiller 01:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The quote originated from a television show. Raul654 02:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Something makes me suspect this is from Battlestar Galactica, but as I've never watched it I don't know why. --YFB ¿ 03:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

No, it did not originate from Battlestar Galatica. Raul654 01:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I know I've heard the "I hope the robo-pilot can take it from here..." line, but I think it was in a video game, not a TV show. Meaning either a parody or a coincidence. --tjstrf talk 03:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I very much doubt that that line has surfaced in any other medium. It's most definitely a TV show. Raul654 01:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Lost in Space? — Deckiller 01:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

No. Second hint: According to the wiki article, the episode containing that line first aired in January, 1985. Raul654 01:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

V? --YFB ¿ 01:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Raul654 01:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Transformers? — Deckiller 16:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Incorrect (but getting warmer...) Raul654 17:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Mobile Suit Gundam? — Deckiller 17:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Nope (wrong years) Raul654 17:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

block user: Orangemarlin

Orangemarlin is not being constructive on the Intelligent Design and Evolution talk pages and is making many personal attacks on Intelligent Design and not backing up his claims with legit research. I feel like him, and many others who are unwilling to form a consensus about the introduction are preventing resolution. There seems to be several anti-ID users who are unwilling to treat the ID article with a NPOV because they have strong opinions against it. This seems very unprofessional, and it would be helpful if some users were blocked. Wyatt 16:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

April coming soon

Just wondering what's up with this. I don't see anything related in the FAC queue. Also, this is probably a little odd, but would it be a sort of in-joke to have an unusual featured item below the featured picture? I'm thinking a "featured disambiguation page" or maybe a "featured template". Gimmetrow 01:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Featured unencyclopedic page? — Deckiller 01:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yep. Just wonderin'. Gimmetrow 01:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but a "featured disambig page" doesn't seem all that funny, just sort-of lame. There are many, many articles I'd love to feature that day, but none of them meet the three requirements I laid out on Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Featured Article. Raul654 01:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't find most of the suggested AF articles particularly oddball. Different jokes for different folks. (In case it's not clear - I was suggesting this in addition to a featured article, something at the bottom of the page.) Gimmetrow 01:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

On another issue, I've seen these templates requesting comment at TFA/requests. Do you use the requests in any meaningful way? From what I can tell, you don't use the summaries, and you usually don't use the requested dates unless they are requested somewhere else (like here). Gimmetrow 02:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I use the requests, but almost-always rewrite them from scratch. And I really, really don't like the requests template that goes on teh talk page. Raul654 01:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone should TfD it. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

And a third question - do you know how the various FA-related categories are used? The old templates used a number of categories like Cat:Featured article candidates (contested) and Cat:Featured article review candidates (closed). If these are not actually used, can they be eliminated? Gimmetrow 03:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't touch the FA cats. I don't like categories in general (the implementation, the way they are used, 'etc) so I tend to steer clear of them. Getting rid of them would not upset me greatly (but I believe there may be some people that do use them). Raul654 01:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I use FFA, and current FAC and FAR categories to track articles listed and check up on faulty talk page tags—not sure of any potential use for failedfacs or closed FARs. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Current categories make sense - but those are not handled by ArticleHistory. I guess next time I edit the templates I'll probably remove everything but CAT:FA and CAT:FFA, and see if anyone complains. Gimmetrow 01:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I've got a last-minute brainstorm for an April 1 FA that I'm rushing through now. Any chance for an expedited process if it's submitted by, say, Tuesday? Thanks.--Pharos 04:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

5 days is the standard for FAC. I'd be comfortable if you could get it on the FAC today (the 26th). That way, I could promote it on the 31st, assuming it has no problems. Raul654 04:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I hope it's OK that I was a few hours late...--Pharos 03:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

FA pic

Could you at least discuss changes you make before you make them? We've been discussing the pic problem on the talk page and all of a sudden after we decide what to do you revert it. I don't see the problem with the pictogram; it's not ridiculous at all. Using an un-free image is. Could you revert it please, until we decide on the talk page what to do, together? _└^Jared_┘^┌_talk^┐  15:49, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You are wrong in every respect. First, the pictogram picture should not have been chosen. Second, whatever you might think, it is standard procedure to use an unfree pic if we don't have a free one available. Raul654 20:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I award you the tireless contributor barnstar for creating over 400 articles, and for filling so many roles on Wikipedia. Congratulations!--Wikipedier (talk • contribs) 17:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I decided to let you put it on your user page, as in most cases, modified other people's user pages without their consent are considred vandalism, I think, and I don't know where you want it.--Wikipedier (talk • contribs) 23:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Although I fixed your archive page

I am still on wikibreak. Cheers! Real96 02:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

thank you. Raul654 02:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Minnesota

I was wondering if I could get a decision on Minnesota being featured May 11th, I'd like to start a related article improvement drive leading up to that page being featured, so having a solid date would help. Thanks, -Ravedave 19:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

See User:Raul654/Featured_article_thoughts#Deference to the article's primary author Get the article featured, then pick a date, and I'll see what I can do for you. Raul654 23:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I am, it is featured, and listed on the request page, thanks! Links: Minnesota, Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#Minnesota_.28May_11.29 -Ravedave 02:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Yes, I'll make a mental note to feature it on that date (if I forget and accidentally schedule another article there, please let me know) Raul654 02:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Appreciated, I'll get the drive started! -Ravedave 02:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Japan FAC

Hi, I was told to come to you by Gimmetrow. I'll just repaste my comments, with his. Please reply on my talk page. John Smith's 19:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The recent FAC application for Japan failed. Why was this? Votes were overwhelmingly for. If it is because some people opposed it, please explain how it is possible to remedy two diametrically opposed complaints - see the first two "oppose" votes. John Smith's 17:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps ask at User talk:Raul654. There were 5 opposes. I can't tell if the first one is resolved, but the second and third imply incompleteness, the referencing issues in the fourth seem addressed, and the fifth was likely ignored by Raul (gallery? FAs should almost never have a gallery...) Gimmetrow 19:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for posting a fresh nomination. How do you think the matter is going?

First Hong keeps going on about "spaces" - but I can't see any. What he does just introduces gaps between the pictures where text creeps in and looks worse. Can you confirm what he's saying with some screenshots maybe? If not could you ask him to stop messing around with the pictures, please?

Second there are often very vague statements made about "need more citations". Can you identify any particular places that need citations? It's difficult to second-guess people, especially when don't clarify what they want to see. Thanks, John Smith's 16:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

http://wiki.racetotheright.com/GW

Hi Raul. I think http://wiki.racetotheright.com/GW has now grown into an obvious off-wiki attack site on various editors, including me (of course), you and various others. I'd like your opinion of relevant policies here - I had a brief search and if there is something relevant I couldn't find it. I'm hoping for some equivalent of no-legal-threats William M. Connolley 22:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No personal attacks#Off-wiki personal attacks Raul654 22:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Not directly useful, then :-( William M. Connolley 22:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

A question you've probably had before

Hey Raul, I recently put an article I wrote (endgame tablebase)on WP:FAC. How long should I expect the discussion to last? I see some discussions have been open for two weeks or more; is that the usual? Of course, I am aware that "there is no deadline." Please respond on my talk page. YechielMan 04:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied there. Raul654 07:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Your Inappropriate Behavior re: Jim Inhofe Article

Raul: I - and Elmer_Clark - have tried to discuss this issue with you on the Inhofe Talk page, to no avail. You acted improperly, not only in the way you handled the issue of the Inhofe edits, and the disrespectful way you treated me, but you improperly used your admin position to protect the page, AND did it during a dispute to which you were a party. For the second time in two days, I have to quote wiki policies to you:

"Content disputes

During edit wars, admins should not protect pages when they are involved as a party to the dispute, except in the case of simple vandalism or libel issues against living people. Admins should not edit pages that are protected due to a content dispute, unless all parties agree to the change, or the change is unrelated to the dispute."

AND

"Full protection

Indefinite full protections are used for:

   * High visibility pages such as the Main Page in order to prevent vandalism. This includes templates transcluded to these pages.
   * The site's logo, press releases, and key copyright and license pages, for legal reasons. Admins should not make significant changes to these pages without prior discussion.
   * Certain "system administration" pages, including many editorial, deletion and stub templates, and the entire MediaWiki namespace. These are pages that need rarely be changed, and that because of widespread usage can cause large-scale disruption if vandalized, or modified ill-advisedly. Again, admins should not make significant changes to these pages without prior discussion.
   * Pages deleted by consensus that are repeatedly recreated. These are listed in either Category:Protected deleted pages or Wikipedia:Protected titles. Requests to overturn such a deletion should be made through the deletion review process.
   * Personal css and js pages like User:Example/monobook.css or User:Example/cologneblue.js are automatically fully protected by the MediaWiki software. Only the account associated with these pages and admins are able to edit them."

NONE of which applies to the Jim Inhofe article and yet you indefinitely protected it.

AND

"Temporary full protections are used for:

   * Enforcing a "cool down" period to stop an edit war.
   * A history-only review of the article during some discussions on deletion review.
   * Preventing abuse of the unblock template or other disruptions by a blocked user on their user talk page."

Which applies to the Jim Inhofe article, yet according to wiki policy you should not have used your admin privileges to protect the page, since you were/are involved in the dispute.

I'm giving you a chance to resolve this issue reasonably before I file complaints about you. First, the issue must be discussed on the Inhofe Talk page - and at least one other person agrees with me that the Inhofe quote belongs; Elmer_Clark has made some helpful suggestions, none of which we can make while you protect the page; seeing as it was inappropriate in the first place, you need to unprotect the page as well. I look forward to resolving this without having to take this any higher. Info999 05:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

First of all, it is you who is in the wrong. Your edits to Jim Inhofe have FAR exceeded the substance of his comments, and despite repeated queries you have not been able to provide a single source that backs up your claims. In short, you have flatly failed to engage on the issues.

Second, as to your allegations about my tone are ridiculous - if you can't back up your own assertions, then don't complain when people remove them because they are false.

Third, your repeated threats ("I don't want to have to report this" as of yesterday, "I look forward to resolving this without having to take this any higher") are without merit and if you persist in making them, then you can expect to be blocked. Raul654 07:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Did you or did you not protect an article, indefinitely, in which you were in a dispute? You were in the wrong. Did you or did you not use aggressive and insulting language? You were in the wrong. Rather than admit it, you threaten me with blocking - a ridiculous threat, given your history and the facts that are recorded that are not in your favor. It is astonishing that you would violate several wiki policies, and, when given the chance to make it right (which is another wiki policy, trying to resolve differences before reporting them - which is what I was doing, not "threatening" you. As far as the article is concerned, I never made any "assertions"; Inhofe said what he said, and it should be in the article, by itself, without any of your POV "balance". And by the way, it is. Furthermore, frankly, I don't need your personal permission to edit an article, nor do I need your personal permission to be a user on wiki. I hope you can take a breath and back off your attitude. It would be better for us all. Peace. Info999 07:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Librarians are hiding something

I immediately hit the article- of course, I was too late, since I watch the 1:30 a.m. edition :) Ral315 » 05:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Did you expect anything less :P Raul654 07:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Goings-on Update

Please use the template at the bottom instead of the hard code. It makes it easier to use the historical pages. I created it a couple weeks ago, but both of the last two updates you reverted to hard code during the update. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 06:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Enjoy!

Trampton has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Trampton 07:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

TFA/R revamping

Please revisit proposal 2 at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/amendment proposal TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 18:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfairly maligned

You have with this edit unfairly maligned me. You do not know me, yet you presume to know my thoughts. That I disagree with someone does not make me their enemy. It does not make me a POV pusher. So you know, I happen to believe that Global Warming is a true phenomenon and we are experiencing it. I also happen to believe that mankind may well be spurring it on. And I happen to believe it may cause calamities and upheaval. I worry about the tractor currents like the Gulf Stream, but otherwise I think the troubles will be tolerable and perhaps the earth can be more fecund at a higher temperature. I also think that a period of warmth will cause higher albedo and then rapid cooling which will be worse than the warmth was. But none of my opinions on this matter. Wikipedia is not about my personal views and I frequently edit contrary to my own personal views. Yet you claim I am a POV pusher. This was wrong of you. You should set a higher standard for yourself as an administrator and arbitrator, and certainly you should refrain from personal attacks on people that you do not even know. --Blue Tie 23:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Judge the lion by the paw. I do not presume to know your thoughts. I said you are a POV pusher, and that's exactly what you have been doing - pushing an anti-global warming POV into an article that is thoroughly accurate, cited, and has been vetted and is a featured article. Your edits to that article have been entirely detrimental - bad writing, falsely claiming the article is not neutral, more tagging. That you don't consider yourself a POV pusher is unsurprisingly, and frankly, irrelevant. William M. Connelly, Raymond Arrit, and Co. have done amazing work getting that article up to the level of quality it is at, and it is not in Wikipedia's interest to have that good work sullied by people wrecking the article. Raul654 01:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

An interesting phrase.. judge the lion by the paw. I have never heard it before. How can I be a POV pusher when I have never pushed one single anti-global warming view into any article? If you can find any edits where I have put any such view into an article I will have to own the label, but I do not think you can find one. I am unaware of any. As for the quality of the article, it is certainly way above the quality of many other articles on wikipedia, but it is not perfect and it has NPOV problems. I feel troubled that the standards of civility and assuming good faith are completely missing with respect to the editors of this article include people like you who are supposed to be examples. Oh well. As I am now aware of your hatred toward me I will not trouble more. --Blue Tie 02:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The global warming article has been under daily attack for months if not years. (including by at least one person who works for an agency that is paid to manufacture global warming doubt). The talk page archives for that article is HUGE - discussion occurs on a daily basis, mostly revolving around (as Mostlyharmless noted) "A small POV section of editors who come, go, and for the most part are replaced a few months later". So if the regulars on that article aren't as tolerable of contrarians as you expect, there's a very good reason (and frankly, they are a lot more patient about it than I am). As to the assumption of good faith, to wit: This guideline does not require that editors continue to assume good faith in the presence of evidence to the contrary. - Wikipedia:Assume good faith. If you do not consider yourself a POV pusher, then it's hard to see how, based on your actions, that you could be distinguished from the rest. Raul654 18:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Corner icons

Drawing your attention to {{Good-article}}, as used on RuneScape... Gimmetrow 04:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I've speedily deleted the template (recreation of many-times deleted content) Raul654 04:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Just had to get the cannons directed in the right direction. Gimmetrow 04:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Marie_Brémont.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Marie_Brémont.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 06:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

GA template

Hi, I noticed that you deleted the GA template on RuneScape. I've asked the people on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Good_articles#GA_template to pull out the deletion discussions so that we can possibly reconsider the existence of such a template. I've also talked to Pyrospirit, the guy who made the template, and I'm waiting for a reply. Would you please tell me the primary reasons for deleting this template? Pyrospirit's intention was to have an image similar to the FA template...but we'll leave that up for a DRV if necessary.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 15:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

See Gimmetrow's reply at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Good_articles#GA_template Long story short - someone else already had the idea, it was deleted, and reviewed, and reviewed, and reviewed yet again. The result has repeatedly been to keep it deleted. Raul654 15:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Kansas-note

Thanks for the note; since I'm traveling, it helped. I still have problems with the way the images are cited— see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kansas Turnpike. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Email

I was just wondering if you could check it; no rush, and no need to reply - it's more of a "just in case, did you miss this (if you didn't, ignore this message)" as opposed to a "I think you stuffed up". Cheers, Daniel Bryant 05:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

(No reply needed at this point). Raul654 18:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

FA criteria

FYI, I added a 5th element to the WP:WIAFA. I realize my suggested changes to the TFA/R process are not going to happen any time soon. However, I think it is important to encourage clean talk pages even if my changes do not get support. I do think in the future it may become important to encourage FACs to consider complete WP:PROJ enumeration and pursue priority assessments before being promoted. I think you should consider making it a part of the criteria in addition to the suggestion I added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 15:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Kirill Lokshin has reverted, and I agree with him (Kirill). Talk page layout has nothing to do with the quality of the article. Raul654 15:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Concur with Kirill's revert. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

With respect to non article objections that we had been discussing on Kirill's talk page, I mentioned my primary concern was navigational box templates (at the bottom). Is overtemplatization an objection. Since I spend a lot of time on Chicago articles, I am curious. Could someone object to Chicago based on overtemplatization at the bottom? While I am at it could you point me to one of those ship articles.

TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 17:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Chicago is overtemplatized. It certainly doesn't look very good to the eye.

As far as the ship, I found USS Yarnall (DD-541). I've also seen this done with two seperate infoboxes on different articles, but cannot find any at the moment. Raul654 17:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Chicago is an article that borders on being overtemplatized. I personally feel all templates are relevant and useful. However, I am sure there are others that are more problematic. Would overtemplatization be a valid objection in that context?

P.S. I have created Jennifer Martz. She is a notable orphan. I would imagine if one wanted to detail her playing career one might be able to create a lengthy article that would be a valid FAC. Would you consider an orphan objection relevant to a promotion decision in this context? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 17:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Alternatively, could one object to succession box overtemplatization (Barry Bonds)? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 17:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

As Raul654 says, multiple infoboxes is not common, but it does happen (another example are separate boxes for the Test/ODI statistics and first-class/List A statistics for cricketers).

Obviously articles can have lots of navigational infobxes - sometime too many. My favourite example it Ian Botham (not a FA, obviously). I would say Chicago has too many, for example. One (partial) solution is to have the contents hidden by default. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure if you understand the context of my questions. Today, I made an amendment to WP:WIAFA that was revert promptly on the basis that class assesment is based on article quality. I am attempting to understand what classifies as valid objection to an article. would you object to an FAC based on overtemplatization? or an orphan? Chicago, Barry Bonds and Jennifer Martz are examples that could be future FACs. I am not asking whether in their current states you would object to them, but whether article like them could be validly objected to based on these general reasons. You think Chicago has too many and others would agree. In a FAC discussion would this be a valid objection? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 18:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Entirely understandably: the contents of the talk page have nothing to do with how good an article is, I am slightly surprised that you would think that it would. The talk page is a place outside of the article (but linked to it) to discuss the article's contents. Some featured articles have talk pages that are almost blank; others extend to many archives.

Without getting too legalistic about it, a valid objection is one which is actionable, and which is based on one or more of the criteria WP:WIAFA - i.e. that the article, for some reason, is not "well written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and stable"; does not comply with the WP:MOS or other relevant guidelines in some respect; has images that are not free (or where fair use rationales are absent); or has an innappropriate length.

"Too many templates" could be an actionable objection, because the article is as a result not well written, or does not complying with relevant guidelines, or is inappropriately long. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Tomorrow's TFA

I wasn't sure if it was intentional or maybe had something to do with April Fool's Day, but I figure it can't hurt to let you know that you skipped tomorrow for the TFA. ShadowHalo 01:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware (and I don't plan on doing this again). I'm holding the door open for Pharos, and the George Washington article (especially for a picture of him). Raul654 01:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for holding the door. Do you mind if we joke-ify the box with true but strange things that sound vaguely like they would apply the other Washington, per some of the suggestion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/George Washington (inventor)?--Pharos 17:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

As long as they are true, I have no objection to jokifying the blurb. Raul654 17:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I am so confused :/ I wasn't around/paying attention last April 1; what becomes of this article afterwards—does it stay FA and what happens in ArticleHistory? No need to answer until after April Fool's. I feel so stupid. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's a regular FA just like any other. It's just that the main page blurb is going to be a bit... erm... intentionally confusing :P Raul654 17:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, you completely got me. I was hunting around for the vandalism edit to revert for several minutes before understanding. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 14:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Xiner listed it at FAR; what to do? Rules say no FAR listings right after main page. Ignore all rules? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I've removed it. Raul654 01:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

ZOMG IMPORTANT NEWS

E-mail sent. Ral315 » 08:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

What on earth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ian_Thorpe&diff=117830924&oldid=117830504

I thought our mission included promoting and encouraging free content. It's not even like another image was removed - David Gerard 16:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I find image:Replace this image1.svg just plain silly - it really doesn't serve much point. Raul654 16:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Except the bit where the Wikimedia Foundation is "dedicated to encouraging the growth, development and distribution of free, multilingual content" ... so, er, never mind that bit of the foundation mission statement, then? Note also it has actually added new free-content pictures to Wikipedia, but never mind that bit either - David Gerard 18:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't find the goal (of providing free content) to be silly. I find a picture saying "Please replace this picture" to be silly. Raul654 18:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Also - what free pictures? I don't believe it's a realistic expectation that people will contribute because of this (but I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong). Raul654 18:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

e.g. the first test run for "replace this image", David Mamet. Wikipedia being all about the free content rather than about taking random images off the net and calling them "fair use" is actually important, and this helps that along. It'd be nice if we had SUL as yet and so could put them straight on Commons, but it's still better than (a) nothing (b) likely unfair use - David Gerard 18:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

An FA curiosity

Hi - I noticed Pumping lemma is listed in Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/December 2003 but appears in neither WP:FA (including versions from early 2004) or WP:FFA. I think it pretty clearly would not pass these days. I suppose we could formally nominate it at WP:FAR. Any thoughts on this? To see if there are any others like this I may change my WP:WBFAN script to make sure each article in the logs by year lists (e.g. Wikipedia:Featured articles nominated in 2003) is in either WP:FA or WP:FFA (it currently looks for articles in WP:FFA but doesn't make sure the rest are in WP:FA). -- Rick Block (talk) 16:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Added here, removed here. As for why it was removed - my guess would be a disagreement over the decision to promote (back when it was not centralized to one person). I think we can simply presume it was never a featured article at all. Raul654 16:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Articles that did not pass the RBP check in January 2004 are not listed on WP:FFA, and this would apply to a fair number of articles from 2003. Gimmetrow 17:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

So it should be deleted from Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/December 2003? -- Rick Block (talk) 17:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm inclined to leave well enough alone. Raul654 17:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree; anything related to ArticleHistory about the time of RBP is taken with a grain of salt, and often needs further investigation. Changing history might introduce other problems. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not overly concerned about this - but it does result in a (blue) star for Takuya Murata at WP:WBFAN. No one's complained about this, and I'm reasonably certain it's not the only anomaly, but my general inclination is to try to fix anomalies that I notice. Anyone care if I remove it from the December list at Wikipedia:Featured articles nominated in 2003 (neither these by-year lists or WP:WBFAN have any official standing, although I try to make them as accurate as possible). -- Rick Block (talk) 18:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make more sense for the WP:WBFAN stats to be based on the WP:FA and WP:FFA pages, which are actively maintained? Gimmetrow 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

That does seem to make sense, since Gimme, I and others put so much work into making sure those lists are accurate. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe starting with FA and FFA and figuring out who nominated each article is computationally infeasible. The problem is figuring out who nominated each FA is a non-trivial task, especially considering joint and restarted noms. I'm open to suggestions, but how it's currently done is (once a month) converting the by-month FA log to a by-month table in the appropriate by-year list (this step is only partially automated - the FAC nominations aren't quite regular enough to reliably parse). Then, WBFAN is generated (fully automatically) from the by-year lists. I've recently added code to make FFA stars rust-colored at WBFAN. As I alluded to above, it would certainly be possible to cross-check the blue stars against WP:FA. Every star should correspond to an article that's either an FA or an FFA. The scripts I use are posted, here and here. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't remove stuff from the logs. It's probably accurate for the log to note that pumping lemma was listed on the Brilliant Prose page (for a little over 7 hours) back in 2003. However, a prior discussion decided that Brilliant Prose articles removed before or during Refreshing Brilliant Prose (January-February 2004) should not be considered former featured articles. Seems best to check the stars against WP:FA. Would it be difficult to make a list of the articles/stars on WBFAN this affects? Gimmetrow 01:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

It's probably time to move this to WT:WBFAN, but probably the easiest thing to do would be to filter the blue stars against WP:FA in much the same way the FFA's are currently filtered and anything left over would presumably be articles that failed RBP. Going in the other direction, I think there are still some FAs (and possibly FFAs) that don't have nomination histories. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I thought we got them all; if you know of one will you let us know? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Provinces of Thailand seems to be in the category of successful nomination but neither FA or FFA. I haven't looked through the WP:FA history for this one. -- Rick Block (talk) 05:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

That's a unique case - it is listed at WP:FFA but was repromoted as a featured list. If you didn't know about the latter, you would probably treat it as a FFA. Gimmetrow 11:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, a unique one; see the last entry on WP:FFA—a very good find by Gimmetrow. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bertram Ramsay.jpg

Hi Raul,

the PD-tag on this image is deprecated, could you please clarify it?

thanks in advance,

TeunSpaans 18:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It's an expired crown-copyright photo that I got from a British air-force page. (More than that I do not remember). I've updated it to be pd-old. Raul654 18:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Harry S. Truman

Thank you for the fix, Raul. I'm much obliged. BYT 21:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Scooby-Doo on main page?

Back in mid Febuary you removed plans to put it on the main page leaving the note "will reschedule soon". Well it's been well over a mounth now. Buc 09:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Earth/archive2

I was looking through the page history of this page and I found a previous featured article nomination back in 2005 which failed and has since been overwritten. Would it be possible for you to move this part of the page history to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Earth/archive1? Note that I have recently moved the page here as I expect Earth to be ready for FAC soon. Atomic1609 17:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Earth/archive1 and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Earth/archive2 have been split. Raul654 17:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Elections

Hi Raul654, do you know when the next election for the Arbitration Committee will be?--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. (talk • contribs) 06:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikihalo

I decided to nominate you for a Wikihalo. I've proposed that there shouldn't be any approval by the nominee in the future, since it's an award that, in my opinion, cannot be refused. But actually, you have to accept the nomination. Please do it asap ;-)

Here is the nomination.

PS: I also use this occasion to suggest that you turn the Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary preference on, since the Wannabe_kate's new feature has shown that your usage of edit summary can be increased.

Happy editing,

Snowolf ^(talk) _CON ^COI - 10:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Old FAs

I wasn't sure if I should post directly to you or at TFA/R. I left a query for you at TFA/R's talk page. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

uh, oh

I thought you were gone for the night, and decided to add them before someone else goofed them; now we've got Battle of Shiloh twice. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I was AFK for a few minutes :)

I've fixed the Shiloh thing. Raul654 02:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

LOL - next time I'll wait longer, but it's bedtime here! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

arrrrgh ... ! more work! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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Main page

[3] Well, if you say so. I asked on the admin board what was going on here and what we presently do with such main page FAs, and there wasn't much of a response so I figured people had moved on from the debate. It doesn't appear to be an active dispute, and I couldn't ascertain whether the present version was accepted or not. >Radiant< 08:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Mackinac Island FAC

I nominated Mackinac Island for FAC on 31 March 2007 but so far it has only received one comment and is now 18th in the list. Would it be out of line for me to relist this on the top of the FAC page in a day or so if it does not receive any comments? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I have a little bilboard for FACs requiring feedback:

FACs needing feedback view •
Yoshi's New Island	Review it now
Contingency Song	Review it now

. — Deckiller 21:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

More GW (sigh)

Hi Raul. I think Zeeboid is spamming/trolling/generally being a nuisance at Talk:Scientific opinion on climate change. Not that he doesn't do much the same elsewhere. Could you see you way to doing anything about this? William M. Connolley 21:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Your new tool

Could your tool find any/how many GW edits have been done by User:Kim Bruning? I am clearly unhappy about [4] and I do recall seeing him on the article so I am not sure he is a good mediator unless you know him well enough to reassure me? --BozMo talk 08:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

According to my tool, Kim has edited the Global warming article 3 times (I think he's edited the talk page more often). Having met him at Wikimania, I can say that Kim is a very nice person and I have no doubt that he means well in mediating this. However, I don't know enough about him to say whether or not he'd be a good mediator. Nor do I think mediation - whoever is the mediator - is likely to succeed, given the nature of the problems there (well meaning, scientifically versed editors versus anti-GW POV pushers). Raul654 14:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

You probably been asked this before, but…

"Today's featured article" says "Raul654 maintains a very small, unofficial list of featured articles that he does not intend to appear on the main page." Just out of curiosity, is this "unofficial list" public anywhere? If not, is there any purpose to that text being there? Oh, and keep up the good work, BTW. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 15:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Main page question

Hi, just a quick question. I have requested The Simpsons for April 19, but the article has since been put under featured article review over an image sourcing problem. That has since been fixed, but it remains under review. Does being under review hurt the articles chances of making the main page? -- Scorpion 01:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons request conflicts with another, earlier request, for Charles Darwin on that day (it's the 125th anniversary of his death). I was planning on using Darwin. Raul654 01:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured we'd lose out to him. I'll change it to May 20 or July 27. Would you have a problem with making the TFA on July 27, the day the movie opens? That might sound like advertising. While I'm at it, would you put Cape Feare on the main page? Because I was planning on requesting Cape Feare for May 20 (date of the 400th episode) and The Simpsons for July 27 (Simpsons movie) so they'd be 2 months apart. -- Scorpion 02:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

You've got mail

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

That's resolved now. By the way, Schutz bot hasn't been running for about five days, so FAs that have been on the main page are not getting highlighted at WP:FA. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan FAC

Hi Raul. Ronald Reagan's current FAC nomination I beleive is sock puppetry, and should be closed. I am one of the major editors, so I think you should check it out. Other editors even contacted me to ask my opinion about it, and I told them what I'm telling you. Again, I think it should be closed. Thanks, Happyme22 03:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll second this request, as one of the admins dealing with the sock case (this was collateral damage, there's been point-making going on all over the place). Orderinchaos 14:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Third ... but let's make sure Gimmetrow/GimmeBot know how to handle cases like this. Is the FAC going to be archived and botified, or does it get admin deleted and go away? If it's just *removed* from WP:FAC, that doesn't resolve what to do with ArticleHistory. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll remove the nom during my next pass through the FAC and we'll treat it like any other failed nom. Raul654 14:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Reminder :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Question regarding consensus in FACs

I have a question concerning concensus on Featured Article Candidates, recently user Lankybugger nominated Devil May Cry for FA, a number of users expresed themself and we tried to satisfy all of their concerns, some of the users changed their opposision to support, until the overall number was 9 supports and 2 oppositions, we have attended the concerns of the two remaining users and I left a message on the talk page of each one (please see here and here) asking them to please take a look at the article and make their opinions be heard but even though both of them have been editing here they have been ignoring this, I have seen an article (Halo 2's first FAC here) fail FA because people express their oposition and they never come back to see if they have been improved, my question is what can be done if they just ignore this and a justified ammount of time passes? thanks for your time and sorry for witting such a long paragraph, cheers. -凶 03:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Intelligent design

I've taken the liberty of unprotecting the page as there does seem to be movement towards a consensus - certainly, it might need protected again, but it's probably safe. Adam Cuerden ^talk 03:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Japan FAC

Hi. Sandy is the only user currently objecting to the FA. I addressed her original concerns about reliability of sources, even though Nihonjoe was right to say many of them were ok. However she came up with some new objections and is not talking to me - I have left responses to her on the FAC page and her talk page, but she has not responded. It is clear FA status is widely supported, with no real reasons to withold it. So what's the hold-up?

As ever, please reply on my talk page. John Smith's 12:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

huh? "Not talking to you?" Each time you've left a talk message for me, I've responded, either on talk or on the FAC. I will re-check the FAC today (after coffee and after finishing my watchlist). I'm sorry you've felt ignored; it wasn't intended. I have had almost non-stop travel for about six weeks. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Allright, catching up. I never saw this message; I sincerely apologize, as I do have a very busy talk page and I was traveling and on a slow dialup in a hotel and apparently completely missed it. However, it is not correct to say that I am the only current Oppose; pls recheck your facts. And finally, if you will identify PDFs in your sources, I won't have to re-start my old, slow kitchen computer when I can be using that time to review your article :-) I'll continue reviewing on my main computer later. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, Raul, there is still a disagreement on the FAC page about whether it is FA quality or not. Can you please tell me how we go from here, because I think a majority of editors disagree with her opposition. I have seen FACs succeed despite unresolved opposition - so can you tell me more about how the process can move forward from here? I'm not asking you to approve it behind her back, of course, just explain the options available. John Smith's 16:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Raul has promoted over my objections before many times; consensus works. Nonetheless, the fact that few other reviewers check sources is not a reason for me to stop lodging my concerns. Like I said, look towards the top of the FAC list if you want an example of an article that will become featured even though it relies almost entirely on personal websites. I'll continue to check sources and raise the issues, because 1c is policy, and does matter, even if others ignore it. Please understand, it's not about *you* and it's not about Japan; it's about why reviewers support articles for FA without checking sources. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Sandy, if I believed you have some sort of prejudice I would ask a more senior administrator to intervene - I know that you are just applying what you believe to be the necessary standards. I was merely asking Raul where the nomination can go from here.

By the way I removed the links to the copyrighted material. John Smith's 18:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Wii date on Main Page

Is their any particular reason you made this the FA on April 18th as opposed to the requested date of November 19th? A few on the Talk page showed interest in this date because it is the one year anniversary of the relase. The Placebo Effect 16:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Ummm.... Did you see this message, or did you have reasons for not moving the date? The Placebo Effect 00:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Request for edit summary

Hi Mark. I'd first like to thank you for a lot of the good work you do both as an editor and as part of the Wikipedia power structure. Having said that, I am wondering if perhaps you would consider using edit summaries more often when you contribute. I know you're busy guy, but edit summaries do help others understand better what you changed, and I think the time it takes you to write the summaries is more than offset by the time it saves the other editors who run into your contributions. Anyway, I wonder what you think of my request. Thank you. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I make it a point to use them for the more important edits, but most of the ones I do don't need anything more than the default section name. Raul654 05:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

You may want to flip the preferences bit that forces you to make them. People going up for RFA would be expected to make comments on things like this: [5] -Ravedave 03:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

You mean like I did here, here, here, and here, 'etc? Sheesh... Raul654 03:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

MtG cards

I'm glad you enjoyed the Wikipedia Magic: The Gathering cards. I'd originally set out to make more, but with WotC owning the card-design and mana symbols, that'd just be asking someone to come along and delete the lot as a breach of Fair Use policy. I figure with only one card per colour (and one artifact), only the worst of the copyright paranoids would take issue at my bit of fun. I might make up a few more and just host them off-site - they are quite fun to think up :) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 07:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

FA Nom

Heya Raul!

• Here's a request to class an article.

• Sivaji: The Boss - The film has not yet been released but will be on May 17. Can you check the article status and where it ranks and then consider it for a possible enrry for the main page on May 17 coinciding with its release. Thank You and please respond.

Cheers

G Ganesh 13:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

In order to be a featured article, and article must be both comprehensive and stable - a movie that has not yet come out is probably not comprehensive, and an article on a movie that has just come out that day is probably not stable. I'd be hesistant to feature that article on the main page on that date for those reasons. Raul654 15:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Banner discussion

FYI. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council#Multiple_Banner_discussion. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Help with sockpupettry

Hi Mark, I need your help. REDVERS, one of the Administrators that is working with the Fellowship of Friends page, left me the following message:

Hi, Mario. On the talk page of Fellowship of Friends, I offered Wikipedia's best way for how to resolve these disputes (basically WP:RS); sadly, this was basically ignored and very obvious sockpuppetry was resorted to instead, by people who held the high ground in the dispute.

I wrote to REDVERS but he didn't reply to me. Do you know how can I find out who the sock pupeteers are based on this and this? Thanks a lot! Mario Fantoni 18:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Your comment

"I'm on the fence about this one. The stated purpose of RFA is to identify trustworthy people and, given his former employment by the foundation, I don't think even Danny's worst critic would allege he is not trustworthy (I didn't see any of that in the RFA). He's done an incredible amount of good work in the time he's contributed to Wikipedia - so much so that many of the newer users are ignorant because much of it was done before they got here. At the same time, a number of people have found other things to criticize about his behavior. Yes, Danny has a (raw) 68% support, but that 32% opposition is over 120 oppose votes. I find it difficult to call this consensus. So like I said - I'm on the fence about this one. Raul654 01:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)" - from Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Danny/Bureaucrat chat

I was wondering if you could rewrite that. Double negatives are a bit confusing. -- Cat ^chi? 20:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to this phrase - I don't think even Danny's worst critic would allege he is not trustworthy. To restate that, I believe, given his prior employment with the Foundation, that everyone on Wikipedia believes (or should believe, at any rate) that Danny is trustworthy. By trustworthy, I mean unlikely to abuse the admin tools. Raul654 20:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding The Apotheosis of Washington

Raul654, I noticed you removed E pluribus unum from the The Apotheosis of Washington and cited it as not being relevant. That phrase is on the banner in the center of the painting. I believe it is appropriate for mention in the article but perhaps doesn't need its own link at the bottom. --Daysleeper47 02:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Impostor account

Hi fred. I edit under User:SiobhanHansa but sign as Siobhan Hansa. It's recently been brought to my attention that there is an account User:Siobhan Hansa who made some nasty edits. You blocked the account back in January. I've never edited under it and don't want users who see it to associate it with me. Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks -- Siobhan Hansa 15:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you help this guy? I guess what needs to happen is to delete the bogus account, then let him recreate it as his second account, perhaps move his old account to it. Fred Bauder 16:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted, but what I can do is rename the vandal account to something harmless, register with the name formerly used by that vandal (to prevent someone else from doing it), and redirect it to your page. Raul654 16:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mark. That would be great. Is there anything you need me to do to make this happen? Thanks. -- Siobhan Hansa 03:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Jurassic Park FAC

Per User:Tony1's suggestion, would you be willing to extend the Jurassic Park FAC to allow me to find good copyeditors from the Dinosaur WikiProject? Alientraveller 12:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

OK Raul654 15:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Form IV Ataru nomination.

The article Form IV: Ataru (Lightsaber combat), which has been nominated for FA, has also been nominated for deletion on the grounds that it is completely in-universe, is on an irrelevant topic, and the content is considered original research. Is this sufficent ground to end the discussion now? --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 15:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Which discussion - the FAC discussion or the AFD discussion? Raul654 15:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

The FAC --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 15:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes - I don't see much point in talking about an article's FA potential if it's on the verge of deletion. Raul654 15:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Featured article review/Intelligent design

I notice that you reverted a pov pushing anon's addition of a FAR template, but another editor seems to have created Wikipedia:Featured article review/Intelligent design. This doesn't appear at WP:FAR and so doesn't seem to have been done properly: it seems to be a reaction to the usual controversy when in practice two acceptable versions of the intro are being debated as a further improvement to the article. Should the FAR proceed? ... dave souza, talk 19:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I addressed that on the talk page already. Raul654 19:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Well said, my bad not spotting that. .. dave souza, talk 19:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Help requested

Hi Raul654 - I have just started running a new IRC Bot on #wikipedia-en, and now been told that I should be seeking permission for a bot request, so that I can have the bot flagged as being one. As you are a bureaucrat on here, and Meta recommends seeking help from a bureaucrat, I was wondering if you would be willing to assist me with the necessary applications process please? The bot is link2, and is based on linky - found in #wikipedia-de.

The idea of linky & linky2 is that you type, for example [[Whatever]] into the irc channel, and linky & linky2 expand those links into a full URL, and paste it back to channel. This can be useful for IRCers who do not have a wikipedia plugin in their IRC Client.

It also does interwiki links, like this: - [[pt:Brasil]] would paste up http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasil.

"Linky" is active in #wikipedia-de and suffers no abuse or problems in any way.

Your help would be most welcomed. Thanks. Thor Malmjursson 20:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

On-wiki bots need approval - IRC bots don't. Raul654 20:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Global warming

Raul654, why are you intent on using weasel words on an article in which you've had very little involvement and a discussion page you have not visited in many months. It was fairly agreed upon that we would use neutral language. There's no reason to fan the flames. ~ UBeR 20:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

It's true you have made more edits to that article than me. After all, it's easy to rack up a high edit count by making multiple inflammatory edits and then reverting to keep them in. Just because you make lots of edits to that article doesn't make them good or productive ones. That article would not be on FARC at all if it weren't for your "contributions".

In point of fact, the edits of yours that I have reverted give undo weight to the tiny minority of scientists who disagree with the consensus position on global warming, as expressed in the IPCC. And your own removal of citations aside, Oreskes work shows "that there is a robust consensus" supporting the IPCC's position. Raul654 20:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Sigh. This shows your general misunderstanding of the topic. I don't care how many edits you have made, I care if you have been involved with any of the consensus making at the article or not. You have been uninvolved with the article, and you are going against decisions that have been fought over menacingly. Oreskes' paper details how many abstracts from her sample of 928 papers explicitly endorse the IPCC view. Two percent did. Even tough none of her sample went against the IPCC, this does not translate into "a small number of scientists disagree." See WP:SYN. You are fine to detail Oreskes' paper, noting that it deals with paper abstracts, but it wouldn't be appropriate for the lead, especially since a lot of people would start including the criticism of her paper. Do you understand?

Oh, before I forget. Please cease your personal attacks. I don't really feel like getting in a long predicament, in which third parties have to be involved. Just please act responsibly. ~ UBeR 21:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

3RR report - your response needed

A 3RR report has been filed against you here. Under the circumstances, I have suggested that you be given an opportunity to respond before any action is taken. Newyorkbrad 23:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

There was an admin discussion and the consensus seemed to be to block you, therefore Wizardman has done so for 12 hours. You can read the discussion here. Heimstern Läufer 23:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Village pump conversation regarding templates

See here this concerns several aspects of the WikiProject templates and their implementation. Quadzilla99 00:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Leo Szilard.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Leo Szilard.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self-no-disclaimers}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 04:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 04:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Chahax

Raul, you blocked User:Chahax on grounds of being a sockpuppet. Whose sockpuppet do you allege this is, and where is the checkuser report you cited in your block statement? It isn't enough to just say he's a sockpuppet without evidence, and even if there's evidence of sockpuppetry that still isn't enough; he needs to be using a sockpuppet in violation of policy. Everyking 08:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I blocked him on the grounds of being a sockpuppeteer, not a sockpuppet. Specifically, using the IP address I noted to make ridiculous POV edits, and then for using Chahax account to attempt to create a FAR listing on an article he was POV editing with his IP address (claiming the article was unstable because people were POV editing it - a self fulfilling comlaint seeing as how he was the one doing it) Raul654 12:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Chahax has posted an unblock review request and has also e-mailed me asking that I make sure the block is reviewed (and that an arbitration case be started, but I can advise him how to do that later, if necessary). Please comment regarding this request, including whether the sock or alternate account was used disruptively and whether the duration of the block should remain indefinite. Thank you. Newyorkbrad 11:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it was being used most disruptively (see above). He was given a warning beforehand, and decided to ignore it. Raul654 12:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Noted. Still, I'm not quite sure what the next step should be here, procedurally. A blocked user is entitled to a review, especially when he alleges (even if unmeritoriously) that the blocking administrator had a bias against him, but I am hardly in a position to review the matter without having the checkuser information. Would it be in order to ask another checkuser to conduct the review? Regards, Newyorkbrad 12:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The checkuser identification is not at issue - he admits it was him Raul654 21:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Good point, sorry I missed that (*smacks forehead*). Please monitor Chahax's page for any continued dialog. Thanks. Newyorkbrad 21:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk is continuing on User talk:216.67.29.113, where he has used the unblock template a dozen or more times already (with every edit he makes) despite being warned not to do so. If he keeps it up, I'll be protecting that page soon. Raul654 21:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd been monitoring only User talk:Chahax, where he'd seemingly been more reasonable. I guess the remaining question is duration. Do you have a view on that, or was "indefinite" to be taken literally? Newyorkbrad 21:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied by email. Raul654 21:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

TFA/April 18

Could you fix a link in this? "E³" has been moved to "E3", so the link needs to be fixed. TJ Spyke 02:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)