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The Tribe of Mic-O-Say is an honor society of the a local council. It is not a part of the Boy Scout Program and does not emphasis or support any of the methods of the boy Scout Program. Its only Purpose is to allow adults to play indian. It is in conflict with the ideals and objectives of the Boy Scouts of America and only those who hate these objectives and feel that Lord Baden-Powell and his successors such as E. Urner Goodman was wrong. If the idea of youth under 21 years of age in control of the BSA program is repugnant to to you, then explain how any adult controlled program will fulfill this.

Results

Please give any actual examples of actual results of youth leadership of Tribe of Mic o Say that has been an example of positive Youth Leadership to Scouting, IE the BSA Program

Local Council evidence is not relevant

Instead of describing this program as an integral part of the BSA program, describe it like the Tribe of Tahqiutz or Wolfboro pioneers, where there it is understood that there are 2 or 3 programs not approved by the BSA. There should be no assumption that we need to describe any other organization not a youth program as an integral part of the Boy Scouts of America. Describe it as a local honor society not affiliating with the BSA. This can Include the Tribe of Tahquitz, Tribe of Mic-O-Say or Wolfboro Pioneers, Etc,. Then give description of local history of honor society. Also, evidence of youth control should be given.


The Tribe of Mic-O-Say is an honor society of the a local council. It is not a part of the Boy Scout Program and does not not emphasis or support any of the methods of the boy Scout Program. Its only Purpose is to allow adults to play indian. It is in conflict with the ideals and objectives of the Boy Scouts of America and only those who hate these objectives and feel that that Lord Baden-Powell and his successors such as E. Urner Goodman was wrong. If the idea of youth under 21 years of age in control of the BSA program is repugnant to to you, then explain how any adult controlled program will fulfill this.

Results

Give any actual examples of actual results of youth leadership of Tribe of Mic o Say that has been an example of positive Youth Leadership to Scouting

Another legacy has been a continuing Eagle Scout completion rates, and as stated by many of the Scouts, it is because of Mic-O-Say [citation needed]. Summer camp regularly sees well over 800 scouts returning for the fourth year of camp and well over 500 scouts returning for their 5th year of camp.[citation needed] By keeping these older scouts active in the program, they are more likely to earn their Eagle Scout award.[citation needed] The monthly council newsletter consistently fills an entire page with new Eagles.[1]

A final legacy is the growth of the program. The Mic-O-Say program is currently in place in seven councils, all centered around the two tribes in Missouri[citation needed]. This is an increase from three in the late 1980s.[citation needed]

History

Mic-O-Say was founded in 1925 at Camp Brinton near Agency, Missouri under the guidance of H. Roe Bartle, who was the scout executive of the St. Joseph Council (now called the Pony Express Council). Bartle combined his experiences in Wyoming with the St. Joseph Council's existing honor organization called Manhawka.

Bartle was inspired to create the organization after serving in 1922, as the Scout executive for the Central Wyoming Council. Bartle became extremely interested in the heritage and culture of the many Indian reservations in Wyoming. He spent many hours listening to stories about the Indian tribes and soon began to incorporate Indian values and ideals into his Scouting program.

Bartle was inducted into a local tribe of Arapaho based on a reservation served by the Scout council, and according to traditional Mic-O-Say legend, was given the name Lone Bear by the chief.

Bartle started the job in St. Joseph in January of 1925. The idea of Mic-O-Say was well formed from the moment he arrived. There already existed a camp society there called Manhawka, established by a previous executive. Bartle familiarized himself with the rudiments of it, and incorporated them into his central theme of an Indian-like society based on the principles of the Scout Oath. Bartle named the society "Micosay." A hyphenated version was used shortly after and remains popular today, though the non-hyphenated version can still be used.

Camp Geiger (Boy Scouts), which succeeded Camp Brinton in 1935, is considered the 'mother' tribe of Mic-O-Say. Bartle was "The Chief," and conducted all the early ceremonies personally, placing an eagle claw around the neck of each new member and bestowing their Tribal Name upon them. He built up the tribe during the next few years.

In the fall of 1928, Bartle became the Scout executive of the Kansas City Area Council. Mic-O-Say had increased both Scouting and summer camp attendance in leaps and bounds, and he established another Mic-O-Say program at Camp Dan Sayre near Noel, Missouri, in 1929, the first summer there. Another honor program known as the 4Ms existed there at the time. In 1930 Camp Osceola opened near Osceola, Missouri, and remains open to this day, renamed the H. Roe Bartle Scout Reservation, or commonly known as "Bartle."

The tribe flourished and expanded rapidly. The tribe in St. Joesph remained and grew. In 1947, ideas created at Camp Osceola returned to the tribe in St. Joseph to improve the program there.

The 75th anniversary celebration for the program at the Bartle Reservation included thousands of members of the Tribe, including the current and previous Chief Scout Executives.

Both the Heart of America and the Pony Express Councils number among the top Boy Scout councils in the nation in the number of Eagle Scouts each year, and have consistently had the country's highest ratio of Scouts who attend long-term camp. [citation needed]

Geiger Purpose

The Tribe of Mic-O-Say is a Scouting honor camping program, based upon the intensification of the principles and ideas of Scouting. Its purpose is to provide recognition for boys who have demonstrated and proven their devotion to Scouting by going the extra mile. Mic-O-Say is a boys' program that is guided and inspired by adults. Adults are brought into the tribe so that they may interpret and encourage the use and application of those principles in the lives of boys. Make Talk is an official publication of this organization at Geiger.

Organization

In the Heart of America Council, the Council of Chieftains, She-She-Be Council, and Tribal Council lead the tribe. Their official publications are the Customs and Traditions booklet, Cedar Smoke newsletter, and Inner Circle magazines.

In the Pony Express Council, the Council of Chieftains and the Tribal Council lead the tribe. Their official publications are the Redbook booklet and Make Talk magazine.

Membership: Bartle

Bartle Warrior claws, dipped in orange Firebuilder paint. Also shown are coups, special awards given to tribesmen.

Mic-O-Say consists of two membership levels or ranks:

  • Foxman [not a member, but has shown potential for becoming a member]
  • Brave
  • Warrior (Hardway and Honorary) /Honored Woman

Note: Not all members serve for any of these responsibilities. There are many members who join and die as a Brave or Warrior.

Youth members may have these "paint" responsibilities:

  • Firebuilder (with ORANGE paint on the tips of the claws)
  • Tom-Tom Beater (with GREEN paint on the tips of the claws)
  • Runner (with BLUE paint on the tips of the claws)
  • Keeper of the Sacred Bundle (with YELLOW paint on the tips of the claws)
  • Shaman (with PURPLE paint on the tips of the claws)

Adult Tribesmen may hold these positions:

  • Sachem (with WHITE paint on the tips of claws)
  • Keeper of the Wampum (with WHITE paint on the tips of claws)
  • Sagamore (with WHITE paint on the tips of claws)
  • Medicine Man (with WHITE paint on the tips of claws)
  • Chieftain [Presiding or Honorary] (with RED paint on the tips of claws)
  • Chief (with RED paint on the tips of claws)

Foxman is a yearlong responsibility that represents walking the correct path to possibly become a tribesmen. Foxman is not technically a rank of Mic-O-Say. While being a Foxman is not a required step, it is uncommon to become a Brave without first being a Foxman.

The rank of Brave is for all youth who are called for membership in the Tribe. Once they join, they select a tribal name. A Brave wears an eagle's claw with a small medicine pouch. The rank of Warrior has two types: Hardway Warriors and Honorary Warriors. Hardway Warriors are Braves who have completed the requirements to become Warriors. This type is signified by two eagle claws back-to-back so the tips point away from each other. Adults over the age of 18 who join the tribe do so as Honorary Warriors and Honored Women. This is signified by two eagle claws that point downward so the tips face each other (the shape resembles a crescent moon).

Hardway Warriors may earn certain responsibilities, known as "Working Paint" through the age of 21. This is signified by paint on the tips of their claws. This includes:

  • Firebuilder - Orange Paint. They build and tend all ceremonial fires.
  • Tom-Tom Beater - Green Paint. They beat the drums that bring Tribesmen to ceremonies and dances.
  • Runner - Blue Paint. They are the messengers and escorts of the Tribe. They make sure the candidates get where they are going.
  • Keeper of the Sacred Bundle - Yellow Paint. They keep the Customs and Traditions of the Tribe.
  • Shaman - Purple Paint. They aid the Tribal Council and prepare themselves for future responsibility. Orientation for first year campers is also their responsibility.

The tribal council comprises selected adults, whose selection is signified by white paint. There are four levels in the HoAC tribe: Sachem, Keeper of the Wampum, Sagamore, and Medicine Man. It is their responsibility to carry out and endorse the policies of the Council of Chieftains.

The Council of Chieftains is composed of the Chiefs and Chieftains. They wear red paint and a necklace of 24 eagle claws. It is their duty to establish the policies of the Tribe of Mic-O-Say.

Membership: Geiger

Almost the same as Bartle membership, but there are a few differences:

  • The following responsibilities are not part of the Geiger tribe: Shaman, Keeper of the Wampum, and Sagamore
  • Foxmen are only at that stage for 24 hours
  • New members are given a tribal name instead of choosing one
  • Adults inducted into the tribe above the age of 18 are all Honorary Warriors. While both men and women can be inducted into the tribe, they are all under the title Honorary Warriors.

Legacy

Induction of any Chief Scout Executive is not relevant. Military service, should we all state our time service??

Controversies

There has been some amount of controversy over the Tribe of Mic-O-Say's initiation procedures and its use of secrecy. The Boy Scouts of America has adopted policies known as "Youth Protection" since the 1980s which prevent secret societies from forming within the BSA.

Some have raised issues about whether the Tribe of Mic-O-Say hazes new members and whether it is a secret society. Because of the national policy forbidding secret societies, Mic-O-Say has adopted policies that permit anyone to sit in on ceremonies, and although the Tribal Council discourages non-tribesmen from attending, Mic-O-Say does not stop concerned parents from doing so.

Trivia

The Kansas City Chiefs are named after the nickname, "The Chief", of H. Roe Bartle, which is his nickname because of his position in the tribe.

See also

References

  • Tribesmen Arise! by Cotton Smith ISBN 0-9754963-0-1 (History book of HOAC Mic-O-Say)
  • Strengthened by an Eagle's Claw ISBN 0-9754963-2-8 (DVD history of HOAC Mic-O-Say)
  1. ^ http://hoac-bsa.org/ae_links/Adv_in_Scouts_2007_04_05.pdf
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