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Mosque
After inclusion of Bat Ye'or the article cannot be neutral any more. As her biasness is well-known. I suggest that this article is removed from feature article/good article status. What are your thoughts? --- Faisal07:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Salutations, Mr. Turner. I just wanted to wish you a happy wiki-birthday, on behalf of all of us at Esperanza! Happy editing, as usual, as well. Regards, Merovingian {TC@} 12:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously it looks ok on your browser, but have you checked others? This is the screen shot from my computer (safari). The problem, in my view, is that by not having a fixed width for the pin image cell then that cell in the table can be of variable size. As soon as it increase from 80 px the all-brown background is visible and it breaks the edge of the paper at the the top, as you can seen in the screenshot. Did the pin image cell remain a fixed size in your own browser? If so, I assume this is because the the 50% width you specified for the neighbouring cells that caused it too remain small. Clearly this does not work in all browsers. After i made the changes did it look wrong on your browser?
Also, on my screen, the colour definitely does not match. the colour i substituted was the exact match according to photoshop. Did it look wrong in your browser? David D.(Talk)16:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The original looks perfect in Mozilla Firefox and reasonably perfect in Internet Explorer, the two browsers I looked at when I originally made the page. Since I made the image, I know for a fact that the background color is in fact the same color as the background color for the pin. The best option may just be to redesign a less complex page. I don't want to divert an unnecessary amount of resources away from the main objective of Wikipedia, building an encyclopedia, to dealing with the inconsistencies in web browsers for a user page. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 16:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely, re: wasting time. But I am interested, did the changes i made mess up Jorges page in your browser? By the way i think what you did is very creative. David D.(Talk)19:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It just dawned on me that the differences with respect to colours are due to the limitations of web colors (see figure to the right). Comparing the two shades of brown we were using (D5A96C and CC9956 respectively) neither equate to a standard web colour, although both are similar. The real colour that should be used is #CC9966, and will be universal with respect to different browsers and monitors. i hope you find this useful David D.(Talk)21:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, those changes did mess up the changes in Jaranda's... er... Jorge's browser. Regarding the web colors, I thought that perhaps that may have been the problem, but I perished the idea because the it's 2006 after all; the idea of web-safe colors ought to be outdated. Safari hasn't quite caught up. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 01:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Initially it never crossed my mind it was a safe color issue. Anyway at least we are more aware of the imcompatability issues. i had not realised there were such large differences possible between browsers. David D.(Talk)03:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So i just tried it with a mozzilla based browser and the only thing my edits mess up were the colours. The fixed 80px for the pin image cell didn't messup the formatt. i will make that formatting edit again, but this time without changing the colour. At least that way safari users will see the pinned pieces of paper the way they should be seen, rather than with the unsightly brown gap at the top (see screen shot above. The colour differences are tolerable, so that is a trivial problem. David D.(Talk)03:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite; it now looks even worse in Internet Explorer (Win XP); it looks very similar to the screenshot you took with the images off-center, but the colors are in coordination. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 03:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It does? Sigh, so mozilla, explorer and safari all look different. I don't have explorer to check. Before you revert it, could you please get a screen shot? i don't understand why explorer would reject that code. I can't guess without seeing the end result. if you get a screen shot can you e-mail it to me or just upload to wiki, thanks. David D.(Talk)04:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Joturner... you can imagine my surprise to see a vandalism notice on my talk page. Especially with respect to the United States Marine Corps, as I am a co-coordinator of the Marine Corps Portal. Glad to see that you quickly noticed that your notice was in error. I do appreciate your vandal fighting efforts for all articles, including USMC. —ERcheck (talk) @ 03:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do you realize that you voted oppose for Benon's nomination but said you concurred with Where, the nominator? -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 02:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just wanted to let you know that I have removed some of the vandalism on your userpage and I have also attempted to remove any personal info that may have existed. In addition I have protected your userpage in order to prevent such vandalism from occuring again. If you have any questions, please let me know. -- malo(tlk)(cntrbtns)04:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you reverting changes on the Havelock North High School page? How do you know that isn't true. It is. You are commiting "delete vandalising". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.86.32.50 (talk)
The edit I reverted on the Havelock North High School page fell under Attention-seeking vandalism as it appeared to be nonsense meant to insult Asian students at the school. However, I hope this one incident does not discourage from continuing to edit Wikipedia and I apologize if you were offended by the reversion. If you feel like that kind of information is factual enough and important enough to be in the article, you are welcome to bring up the matter on Talk:Havelock North High School. I would also recommend that you register for an account by clicking on the link in the top-right corner of the screen. Note that because your IP address changes, the vandalism warning does not appear on your IP address. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 17:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm quite sure an administrator will have to take care of the quickbar change. When the portal becomes ready for its premiere, we could post something on the administrators' noticeboard. Also, take a look at some of the suggestions from the portal's talk page. I don't want to step on your toes, but the current events page is in dire need of a layout change regarding those right and bottom sidebars (the top one looks great). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 22:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't confirmed the need for an administrator to do it, but I suspect you're right. With respect to your suggestions at Portal talk:Current events, I think its great that you're anxious to engage in that discussion. If you've been following along on my proposal to move Current events into the portal namespace, you'll notice that I was anxious to minimize any initial layout and look-and-feel changes to Current events because of its maturity. I also thought it would complicate things to combine the change I proposed with a broader change to the layout. Once the dust settles on the move, I look forward to adding my $0.02 about your proposals, and I look forward to any mockups you end up creating to illustrate your ideas. Thanks—Kayaker (talk·contribs) 23:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
are related to changes you might want to include in your mockup. I haven't done anything abou them yet in order to minimize the side effects from the move. Just something to consider. Thanks—Kayaker (talk·contribs) 23:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]
RfA thanks
Thank you very much for your support for my recent RfA, which I'm quite happy to announce has passed with a consensus of 67 supporting, 0 opposed and 0 neutral. I'm glad I meet your criteria. Most of all, I'm glad you took the time to evaluate my candidacy, as I believe that's what keeps RfA running smoothly, and I'll be working hard to justify the vote of confidence you've placed in me. Please let me know at my talk page if I can assist you with any admin-related tasks, or just if you have any comments on my performance as an admin. Thanks! TheProject02:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; I posed a question on its talk page (a minute after you posted) regarding the archival system. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 23:29, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Joturner, I just wanted to drop you a note and let you know that the way you handle yourself on Wikipedia is top notch and that it was a true pity that your last RfA wasn't a success. May a future RfA see you to adminship. Cheers. Netscott00:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Knox Johnston Golden Globe.jpg falls under fair use, and so theoretically, it should not be on the Main Page or the dozens of user pages which transclude the Main Page. Perhaps a free image, like Image:Joshua001.jpg...
To late now, the article's off the front page. However, someone did at least temporarily change the front page image, I believe. Honestly don't know with this one, sorry. -- Zanimum01:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion; I'll add myself to the list. By the way, would you consider moving the portal to People and Society? It doesn't seem to go along well with the other portals in the History section, which relate to (mostly) ancient history. However, current events seem to deal with issues that affect society today. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 18:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My rationale for its present location is that current events are nothing but very recent history (the phrase "current events" could more accurately called "recent past events" though that kind of precision would actually confuse people since everyone knows what "current events" means as a phrase). It doesn't fit in any of the categories perfectly but short of giving it a category of its own, I think its present location is as good as any. I had to add it to multiple places where that categorization is used so several changes would be needed if you and others became really enthusiastic about such a change. Kayaker19:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC).[reply]
There's nothing wrong with removing information from an article if it's not important or not written well. We shouldn't just keep information in the article just because it was there originally. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 20:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My Sig
Yeah, I know. But I've been using this name for over a month now, and it's stuck on me now. (not literaly of course). — The King of Kings 21:15 July 03 '06
IRC
If you do it my way, you download a decent browser, then click on the relavent link on Wikipedia:IRC channels and follow a few simple steps to set up a chat account. Incidentally, the user involved ('Cousin') has just logged off. Let me know if you need a bit more help (though I'm no IRC expert!). Petros47121:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Alright; thanks. It doesn't seem to be working in Firefox for me (although I don't want to denounce Firefox). I'll go use Opera. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 21:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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My Birthday Message
While I'm giving a generic thanks on my talk page to all, I wanted to shoot you a personal thanks for the humor in it. The picture really brightened it up. Happy editing to you! Teke03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, Joturner. The judges would like to announce that the winner for the Esperanza User Page Contest has been chosen. Congratulations to Fir0002 for winning the contest. The winning entry can be found here.
Thanks for the birthday wishes lol my declaration was more like, I'm going to buy some stuff Mom, take me to the mall lol. :) Darthgriz9821:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just thought I'd swing by and give you a long overdue thanks. Your help at WP:ERRORS is always appreciated, but you may not hear it enough. Oh well, just think... one of these days you'll be made an Admin and then I'll be out of a task. Guess I better start finding another job people don't do often enough. ;-) See you around, my friend. --LV(Dark Mark)15:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One of these days... hopefully. I appreciate the thank you; until that time comes, I'll continue to point out errors on the Main Page (in between my other contributions, of course). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 15:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The form "Macao" was the original Portuguese spelling, and has been retained in most European languages. In modern Portuguese, the correct spelling is "Macau". During the 20th century, the official spelling "Macau" became more and more common in English-language sources, including most print media.
Do you believe that last statement is incorrect? So perhaps my edit summary may not have been 100% correct, but I believe we should stick with Macau for consistency on Wikipedia and due to its overall popularity. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 17:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Instantnood wages edit wars over this spelling difference. It's safe to ignore him on this. Wikipedia has consensus to use the u form for article and category titles. Within articles both forms get used. SchmuckyTheCat19:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid your Google test failed to reflect its usage in English, since it includes webpages in Portuguese (which is an official language in Macao), other European and Roman-letter langauges. There are more occurance of Macao than Macau for English pages within the Canadian domain (181,000155,000), Canadian government domain (35,30010,800), OECD (18,100452), United Nations Development Programme (919153), for instance. In my E-Mail exchanges with the Macao Government, they've clearly indicated that Macao is the spelling they use in English, except for proper names. — Instantnood18:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point, but given the quality of your userpage I think it would be a useful addition - but I leave it up to you. Regards, Wikipidian01:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
re:Happy First Edit Anniversary Day!
Thank you for your wiki-anniversary wishes! *Looks at caption of your pic* Oh, come on, ain't I always careful? :D Cheers! — The King of Kings 16:59 July 10 '06
Obviously, it's very difficult to read. Could you consider changing the color scheme and font size to help put the effective back in effective communication? Thanks in advance; we'd all appreciate it. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 23:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Could I ask you what article this is in regards to, or how your attention came to be interested in my talk page? Since you find it difficult, please reply here as I have added your talk page to my watch list. Thanks. Ste4k23:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well here is how difficult it is to work with YOUR own comments on my page. The overly large extremely bright pages on Wiki make everyone seem like they are shouting at me. I am so upset about this that I am leaving Wikipedia until it's corrected. See also: Image:Mboverload.jpg.
I apologize. I thought you were an admin. The other two admins involved in this matter have seriously upset me. I consider their condescending remarks rude to the point that I am leaving. Please accept my apologies for my thinking you had something to do with that. Ste4k02:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
request
regarding the image Image:Ste4k.gif please remove it. Without any explanation it appears to be drawing attention to me personally and is highly likely to be misconstrued. Thank you. Ste4k04:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Cowfight image
Hi there,
I wonder why you uploaded this image under a different name than the one on the commons. Doesn't it make sense to upload it with the same name? That way image links don't go dead once it's off the main page (and gets speedy deleted). - Mgm|(talk)08:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I mistakenly believed the image needed to be uploaded under a different name so it could be protected while it was on the Main Page (I wasn't sure whether overriding the Commons image required administrative privileges; I've never attempted it before and didn't want to since the image was on the Main Page). Regardless, it did its job and it most likely didn't cause a problem. The image was always, and still is, available at the image location similar to that on Wikimedia Commons: at Image:Cowfight0a.jpg. But the next time, I'll make sure to just override the Commons image. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 12:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Current events annoyance
All "[edit]" links on Portal:Current events give empty pag NM, it fixed itself. Strangely, I could edit create pages, despite being an IP :D 68.39.174.23803:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Dab, Now I see the problem, 1.9 em is misaligned on Internet Explorer (looks fine on FireFox) and 2.4em is misaligned on FireFox (looks fine on IE). Do you have suggestions on fixing it? - Ganeshk (talk) 01:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... is that the correct location? Comparing the current image in IE and Firefox, I don't see a significant difference (that was taken in Firefox by the way). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 02:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Joturner,
Good work for moving the statements to a separate article, but you should have left some more international statements in the main article. --Wikindian22:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Joturner, I really like your Userpage layout, so I decided to put a page outline on mine. However, when I did, it didn't outline the enitre page and has a huge blank spot in the middle of it. How do I fix it? I'm only 13 and don't understand WIkipedia's complex stuff for the most part. If you can help me, that would be great. Scrumshus20:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to fix it for you. By the way, you can link to pages on Wikipedia like [[Wikipedia]]. If you want different text to appear than the name of the place you link to (like this link: my user page), you can type [[User:Joturner|my user page]]. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 21:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, man. I owe you one. :) Hey, if it's no trouble, could you tell me how to create a little "quotes" box like the one that you have by your "Final Words"? That could be useful. Thanx anways, Scrumshus22:28, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I took your advice, and it worked! Thanks a ton, man. It's like speaking a differernt language (php, rigth?) here! Just one little nag. On the right, there's a infobox stuffed with userboxes. I inserted a quote in there. The only problam is, that I wanted to attach a link to the quoter's name, but the blue color distracts my red color scheme. Is there a way to make links red (while leading to a real article)? Scrumshus00:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You can do [[School of Rock|<font color="red">Dewey Finn</font>]], although I must warn you that red links - like gdkhagkjdshgjksah - tend to indicate articles that don't yet exist. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 00:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason, the quote box read {{{1}}} when I took your advice. No problem, though. I just changed my color scheme to blue. :) Hey, do you know if there's like a suggestion box for Wikipedia? I figured out how to make text appear with different fonts, but the selection is very limited. My suggesetion: Make WIkipedia's fonts compatible with [3]. There's a great selection there, and it would be a great addition to Wikipedia. Scrumshus18:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I created a table of contents like you, but my 'My Music Interests' link doesn't bring you to the 'My Music Interests' part of my page? How do I fix it so my TOC will work? It works fine with 'My Life'.Scrumshus23:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Tariqabjotu, and thank you for your strong support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grandmasterka07:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Standards
yeah, you actually explained your standards quite well. With clarification, it actually seems fine to me. RfA always makes me worried because of what sometimes appears to be a patchwork of rigid standards held by a variety of editors. I do think that posting the things that you look at is entirely acceptable. Thanks a lot for the clarification and the kind and courteous response. Regards, Alphachimptalk19:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd agree, I would like to hear his answer to the question. Even if you do choose to oppose on those grounds, I applaud your willingness to reasonably consider the opinions of other editors. A lot of people do "drive by" voting in RfA's, which can be quite frustrating. To be quite frank, I really haven't bumped into many editors in a similar situation to him. The shear fact that he has been around so long and contributed so much was certainly enough for me. Anyhow, let's just wait for that response. Alphachimptalk19:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying (just got back from holiday)...About the userpage, I'd go for option c.), it seems the most reasonable to me. Feel free to use your own discrection though. :) Regards -- Banes14:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to ask what you meant by repeatedly stating my opposition in the other RfA, but now looking it over it I see what you mean with regard to two of my three-four subsequent comments. Their reason was to engage the comments by others, in the same vein as is done on article and policy discussion pages, and was not intended to "furthermore" oppose beyond the comments I had already made. That is, they were subordinate to the comments by other users rather than "top-level", subordinate only to the overarching RfA. I did not intend to strengthen my position in the context of the RfA nor to offend or "rub it in". —Centrx→talk • 13:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry; I have seen far worse. In fact, I'm worried some may think I was doing a little rubbing in of my own on the RfAs for Sean Black and JD_UK because my comments were so long. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 13:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I note a revision in your userpage indicating your college choices. Consider this a gentle prod from a like-minded admirer that you might wish to add Harvard among them. I'm quite certain, given both your intellect and your unusual background, that you would be a formidable candidate, and a benefit to the University as well. I would gladly pay your application fee myself. :) Best wishes, Xoloz20:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; that's quite a compliment (and quite an offer). The only downside about Harvard is that it does not offer a degree in civil engineering, my intended major. And before you say MIT, I have to say I'm looking for an all-around, instead of specialized, school (if only they combined MIT and Harvard...). Perhaps I'll apply to one of two schools anyway (although I couldn't possibly accept your offer). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 21:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Harvardian aspiring engineers often choose physics, math, social studies, or sociology as their "concentration" (unfortunately, some small vestiges of elitism do remain at Harvard, and the curricular vocabulary is one: we don't have "majors.") Much flexibility is also given to undergraduates in designing their own course of study, so you may make the civil engineering curriculum for yourself, in consultation with a faculty advisor.
Your suspicion regarding our friends on the other side of Cambridge is correct: M.I.T. really is as frighteningly dull as is reported (for those people who have any interest in the humanities, anyway.)
My offer stands; should you decide to apply, a visit to Cambridge is always best, and I can see about arranging for an especially friendly person in the admission office to handle things. :) Best wishes, Xoloz04:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So you went to Harvard (still there?)... that answers a lot. I have visited Harvard on many occasions (note the second sentence of the bio on my userpage) and went once last August in a prospective student state-of-mind. Surprisingly, you have convinced me to apply to Harvard, especially since it looks like the school's application won't amount to a whole lot of extra work for me because Harvard uses the Common Application. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 04:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Despite being separated by only two T stops, Harvard Yard is as far from Boston as the clouds are -- in both negative and positive senses. ;) Xoloz04:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't doubt it but everything below is east coast. He should go West coast or Cambridge England :) Half joking, but you know what I mean. Tariqabjotu, good luck with the applications. Always aim high! David D.(Talk)06:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh... if only you knew...
Me: Grew up in Boston, moved to (metropolitan) Washington, DC
Ironically, I grew up about an hour outside of Charlottesville. UVA is much more pretentious as an aspirant to academic esteem than Harvard is as a supposed possessor of it. I'm glad you're applying, and I'm serious about the fee (somebody else paid mine, so reciprocity is at work!) Xoloz04:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello. When you added the excellent Infobox terrorist attack to the Oklahoma City bombing article, you also added the {{current}} template [4]. Since the bombing happened about eleven years ago, I presume this was a mistake and have since removed the current-event template. My apologies if I am mistaken. --Kralizec! (talk) 13:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can you translate "Давай сделаем голосовалку на факт того что Буш Афро-американец и у него черная кожа? Если большинство выскажется за примишь ли ты результаты? Я думаю нет и сослешся на WP:NOR. Я делаю тоже." for me? Thanks in advance. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 22:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
lol ok.
"Давай сделаем голосовалку на факт того что Буш Афро-американец и у него черная кожа? Если большинство выскажется за примишь ли ты результаты? Я думаю нет и сослешся на WP:NOR. Я делаю тоже."
—Let's do a poll on the fact that Bush is an African American and has black skin? If the majority said "yes" would you accept the results? I think you would not and would point to WP:NOR (i.e. you would say that this is original research). I am doing the same thing (i.e. calling table 2 original research).
Alright; thanks. I was worried when you said Also, risqué comments involving blacks are not only inappropriate but also have nothing to do with this discussion. that he intended to insult me. I do wish Elk would keep his statements to English though... -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 22:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I do think it [ the example about bush being black ] is completely unrelated to the discussion, but it did occur to me that the particular example he used might have had something to do with your race. Just a hunch though. —lensovet–talk – 22:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey JT. Userpage is a lot better - and you've been great under fire. In retrospect, had I supported your RfA2 I would not have regretted having done so, and I'll be happy to support you in RfA3. I saw your name in a few controversial places, and you were espousing thoughtful and refreshingly non-partisan views, which made me feel good. What's with the username, dude? Tariq from JoTu? :) - CrazyRussiantalk/email13:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't realize ab meant from. That's actually, like Jo and Tu, the first two letters of a name (Abbas). But, I suppose Tariq from JoTu works perfectly fine as well. Regarding Stanford, I know getting into Stanford is tough for anyone, no matter how intelligent one may be. I'd have to say I'm satisfied with the SAT situation and the place I'm working now and during the school year. Apparently Xolozhas some confidence too. Perhaps being black may help, but I honestly hope people don't capitalize on that (I know you didn't mean any harm). I remember this intelligent black student last year got accepted to MIT and well... he got the affirmative action flack from so many people. But then he went off to MIT, letting them be bitter all with their lonesomes. I predict a similar kind of reaction will be directed towards me, regardless of what happens in my college application process. But frankly, I've heard enough black sheep, oreo, derka, derka, Muhammad jihad jokes to not really care any more. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 15:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Tariq ab JoTu" (see the first line of [5]). Therein lies the biggest problem with affirmative action in education and employment - those racial minorities who are perfectly capable of getting in / getting hired on their own merits are commingled by everyone with those that were "pulled up by their ears", to quote a Russian saying, and that doesn't help one bit. As for the "oreo" stuff, that is beyond disgusting. If anyone said that to me, I would truly clock them, and I advise you do same. - CrazyRussiantalk/email16:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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