User talk:Cowman109

Articles for Protection, Paper Rad
I think we're okay on this for now. I wasn't sure if the people I was fighting were vandals or just mis-informed, but I think it's the latter. At this point it would be a pre-emptive protection, and it's probably best to wait for it to actually be vandalized to go to the trouble to protect it. I'll just concede the edit war, so don't worry about that. Thanks for looking into it. Paul Slocum 04:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
re: CATMAN COHEN Mediation Case (see attached item)
Dear Cowman 109:
Please note that the removal of CATMAN COHEN listing was effected recently upon the assumption that Wikipedia unilaterally bypassed mediation, instead summarily placing labels of censure upon the CATMAN COHEN listing, including NPOV, AUTOBIOGRAPHY, ADVERTISEMENT, etc. As a result, it was determined that immediate removal of the listing was necessary to avoid having Establishment friends of The Catman Project (including police, soldiers, nurses, firemen, paramedics, teachers, etc) stumble upon the various pejorative labels of censure.
However, if WIkipedia is still willing to mediate the issue privately (i.e. NOT in full view of the public), then please apprise as such because, naturally, in the best circumstances, CATMAN COHEN would remain listed at WIKIPEDIA, subject to the edits that would satisfy mutually both the encyclopedia's criteria for listing and the Artist's criteria for maintaining creative integrity.
Again, please note that the CATMAN COHEN recording artist is somewhat unique insofar as NOT providing an artist photo (except of the artist in silhouette) and NOT providing birthdate or birthplace. The CATMAN COHEN biography has been designed to be somewhat metaphorical; yet it seems that these diversions from standard encyclopedia standards are likely to increase interest in the Wikipedia listing rather than diminish it.
Once again, please apprise as to your final decision on the matter.
Thank you for your attention to this request.
Vicky Asher, PR
[email protected] 24.126.193.239 10:42, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hm, I don't quite understand what that is about. I was completely uninvolved in that issue and simply closed the Mediation Cabal case as the article had been deleted. You could contact those who deleted the page, though, here. Thanks. Cowman109Talk 16:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this diff: Are you telling me that John Goodsall's real name, or nickname, actually is "Ian Hart-Stein", despite the citations I've given from allmusic.com? There's been a long history of vandalism to John Goodsall and Brand X -- please read the history of these articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elkman (talk • contribs) .
- Oh, I didn't realize they changed the contents of the opening paragraph - I thought it was simply adding a disclaimer that asserted your points that the page was being vandalized. Sorry about that :). Still WP:AGF goes a long way (reading the edits at least helps). :D Cowman109Talk 19:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- I get it. In other words, his name really is "Ian Hart-Stein", and that's the accepted wording that the article is going to take. Thanks for letting me know this. I knew I shouldn't have "worked" on this article. --Elkman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Uh? Actually I was agreeing with your point, and there is no reliable citation that says his name is Ian Hart-Stein, so I'm about to remove it for you (a google search brings up 5 hits, which don't say much as one contradicts itself). Cowman109Talk 19:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- I get it. In other words, his name really is "Ian Hart-Stein", and that's the accepted wording that the article is going to take. Thanks for letting me know this. I knew I shouldn't have "worked" on this article. --Elkman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Copy of note sent to JPS re: Catman Cohen listing deletion
JPS:
I was unaware of WP MUSIC criteria until now, however, it seems that Catman Cohen meets the WP MUSIC criterion, as stated:
"Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network"
Catman Cohen has been played regularly upon CBC RADIO in Canada (per Mary-Anne Korosi, Vancouver CBC radio producer, head of New Music Canada), and CBC RADIO is the national broadcast station for the country. Furthermore, as far as I know (although I am an American citizen), WEBRADIO CANADA happens to be owned by CBC RADIO and its subscriber growth far exceeds most traditional commercial FM stations outlets in Canada..
Incidentally, you note the imperative for polite manners at the front of your User page, so maybe you should learn a few yourself. The only reason I approached you about this matter is, first, upon request of Catman Cohen, and second, upon the suggestion of COWMAN 109, who apparently was the final arbiter of the Catman Cohen mediation request. As pointed out to COWMAN 109, that mediation request was abrogated summarily by myself when Wiki editors began slapping pejorative censure labels upon the Catman Cohen listing in plain view of the public, and that could not be allowed because of the types of groups (military, police, firemen, nurses, etc) associated with the Project. So, at COWMAN 109's polite suggestion, he stated that the three editors directly involved in the final category deletion should be contacted. Since one editor is on wiki-break, that meant an approach to you and the other member of the editorial trio. So for you to dismiss condescendingly this most recent approach as "spam" is simply RUDE.
Practise what you preach----- and I am providing a copy of this correspondence to COWMAN 109..
Vicky Asher, PR
24.126.193.239 22:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC) .
Please apply the Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion properly. We have no speedy deletion criteria for "dictionary definitions". Nor is an article that contains 5 paragraphs an article that contains "no content". Uncle G 00:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- It was previously speedy deleted content. I was simply deleting as Kelly Martin had already done so, and the editor did not seem to understand the reasoning for it even after we tried to explain it to them (they have since been indefinite blocked for being a vandalism only account and trolling). You might want to read the content of the article - it was nothing but original research. It is deletable by criterion G4 and A1 at least, and as Kelly Martin put it, it is non notable cruft and slang definitions. Though I will specify that in the future, thank you. Cowman109Talk 01:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Also, if you'd still like to contest the deletion of the page, please see Wikipedia:Deletion_review and file a request there. Thank you. Cowman109Talk 01:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Requesting a seven day break
I'll going home for the next seven days, please don't reach any conclusions about the Indian martial arts till then. Freedom skies 11:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks you are right re: Adam Carr mediation case.
Thanks for your help. Yes I think very highly of his work so I will follow your suggestion. Case closed. Caltrop 22:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Cabal mediation
Thanks for effectively stopping the "mediation" (really an underhanded way to get me blocked). The user is trying to malign me. He has already accused me of being a fascist.Bakaman Bakatalk 22:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Also, TerryJho has professed his hatred of Hindus in our debates and violated WP:BLP against scholar Daniel Pipes. Bakaman Bakatalk 22:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm still not quite sure of what the specifics of the situation are, but either way, the situation really calls for administrator involvement if it sounds so heated. Cowman109Talk 16:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the tag reference!
I like the consolidated tag reference on your page! It really helps new editors who are frustrated with the massive Wikipedia help documents. --Vince 08:43, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, you mean the warning templates? I just copied the one at Template:TestTemplates and made them into a smaller version, available at Template:miniTestTemplates if you want to use it yourself :). Cowman109Talk 16:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi there
I thought you might be interested in contributing here, [1]. Cheers, --Palffy 17:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- See my response to your inquiry on my talk page. --Palffy 17:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Kwame Nkurumah and Palffy
Hello. Do you remember me? I had some issues with User:Palffy, you told us to stay away.
I did, he is not doing. So, are you going to do anything?--Kwame Nkrumah 17:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- I blocked Kwame for 40 hours in response to two violations of 3RR. I realize that's a little more than the typical 24 hour block, but he was already aware of 3RR at the time of the block and had 6 reverts on one of the articles and 5 on the other. Regards, alphaChimp laudare 17:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Mikedk9109
If he returns, he needs to be able to edit it; and he seems to still be active. Please unprotect his talkpage. ForestH2 t/c 02:04, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- He can e-mail me if he would like his page unprotected (and he was able to use an IP to evade the week-long block to edit his userpage anyway, so if he wants it unprotected he'll be able to request through the IP as well). Cowman109Talk 02:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- His IP's blocked for 24 hours though but O.K. ForestH2 t/c 02:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- I made note of the protection on WP:ANI, so other administrators can look at it should they feel his page should be unprotected as well. Cowman109Talk 02:11, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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Picture Deletion
I have a few questions to ask about the deletion of 4 images on the John Vogel page.
- 3 of the 4 images have been on that page for about a month. Are they violations now but not a few weeks ago?
- Here's what you said: Removing innappropriate usage of fair use images - please keep those to the articles that specifically discusses them) How does an article on John Vogel not specifically discuss John Vogel? Jonhhy Cage and Reiko both have an entire sections discussing them in the article. I mention Mortal Kombat Armageddon, but if that's not enough I'll add more on it.
- Copyright violation? If that's the case, then why are the same pictures allowed on other pages on Wikipedia (Again there are entire sections discussing Cage/Reiko-Please read the John Vogel article). The only image that does not appear anywhere else is the john vogel image. I thought I sourced it correctly but apparently I didn't. What do I need to do differently to make that picture legitimate?
- Due to the fact that you have not responded to the above comments, I can only assume that you no longer take issue with the pictures. I will add the pictures back until further notice. If you feel that they should be removed, please respond to the above statements as well.