Talk:The Edge

Batman?

Bottom of the page: "He has also created the theme song for the new Batman cartoon." Could someone please clarify what batman cartoon this is in reference to? -- GeekGirlSarah

Watch out! The Edge will cut you!! --Wallaby 11:42, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Picture.

Change the picture, it's awful!

No it's not it's brilliant

He also sang "Seconds" from the War Album

Batman Cartoon

It's the latest cartoon, entitled "The Batman," loosely based on Batman Begins, as Bruce Wayne is new into his career. It's not at the same caliber as "Batman: The Animated Series" was.

marital status

Isn't Edge married (or in a long term relationship with) the belly dancer from "Mysterious ways?" shouldn't that info be on here (if true)?

There are a lot a year i saw a video clip about solo of the edge but i don't remember the title.

It was the edge with a lot of baby foot on his face

Could you help me my adresse mail is : [email protected]

"He has often been named as one of the most influential guitarists of the past decade" unsourced and pov, if this is not cited in 2 days i will remove

Picture (again)

I'm wondering if the picture should be current, instead of from what looks like 20-30 years ago. Shadow1 11:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Solo World

Edge recorded a song with Sinead O' Connor.

.....Dave came very close to leaving U2 for religious reasons.....

But what were the reasons? Was he too devout for the band? Was the band too religious for his liking? 86.7.208.240 21:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Nationality

As with Clayton, it is an incontrovertable fact that "The Edge" is British. Please do not delete or replace with "Irish", especially if you leave the reference to the band as "Irish"! 86.7.208.240 00:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

• Be prepared for a long and bitter fight dude. The Irish brigade run Wiki's biographical entries, and even if you win the argument that The Edge is British they'll just find a way of not mentioning it, or including it as an aside in a later sentence (even though they insist U2 as a band must always be referred to prominently as "Irish"). It's a continuing and never-ending joke. 62.25.106.209 12:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Treat yourself... [1] --Merbabu 13:14, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't you understand, this isn't about the band, it's about the individual. The issue of the band was raised simply to demonstrate inconsistency perpetuated by, amongst others, account holders (e.g. don't call Edge a British musician in his own biographical entry but ALWAYS call U2 an Irish band wherever it is mentioned despite the fact that apart from the band entry it is utterly irrelevant to the main subject). It is really very simple. Again, politics masquerading as editorial policy. 86.17.246.29 22:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I do understand and agree it is about an individual. Please refer to Guinong's comment below - that is my understanding. If it just states the facts Guinong mentions, rather than makes the general claims to be either Irish or British, then the article is factual.

As for your repeated accusation of politics being the real motivator - wtf? Insisting on either the term "British" or "Irish" is what smacks of politics or POV - just let the stated fact speak for themselves. Personally, i know nothing nor am I even remotely concerned about issue of politics (is it some English-Irish thing?). I suggest again you familiarise yourself with the concept of the assumption of good faith. it is more fundamental than the need for a NPOV. Also, why don't you create an account. People eventually tire of corresponding with anon IPs, particularly if they are uncivil. --Merbabu 23:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I give up. When people insist that the term 'British' should be removed from a statement such as "The Edge is the British lead guitarist of the Irish rock band U2" but the term 'Irish' must remain there is no hope for common sense. 86.17.246.29 15:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Why do you demand consitency in comparing a person and a band? Do you judge an apple and orange by the same criteria? Common sense is overrated and justifies stupidity. Common sense for common people. Try using reason instead. --Merbabu 23:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Please try to assume good faith. In an article about a musician, it is fine to state that he was born in the UK, has lived most of his life in Ireland, and retains UK citizenship, as we presently do.--Guinnog 12:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I put this on someone's anon user page, it should have gone here maybe...

Firstly, it’s been implied a few times now that this some sort of political game. Being neither Irish or British, personally, I really couldn’t care less, I just want to see hard non-debatable facts, rather than commentary on which country can claim him - and I suggest that this is the case for most editors. Is the pushing of the term “British” over “Irish” anymore political? Dropping both terms and sticking to the facts is what I suggest. Also, I suggest people immediately stop insisting they know more about other editors’ own motivations and start assuming good faith.

As for the actual topic at hand, to get the most accurate statements, the questions of nationality of a person, and the “nationality” of a band must be separated, even if that person is a member of the band. Your claim that is inconsistency is irrelevant, actually even to be expected. ie, one doesn’t judge oranges and apples in the same way. Sure, bricks make up a house and have an influence on the nature of the house, but one judges brick’s and a house separately and by different criteria. Thus:

• The Band as a singular entity: formed in Ireland, remains based in Ireland, as does is its management, is described by the members of the band themselves as a Irish band.
• Edge. I think people are disagreeing on notions of nationality and identity. There is the official but often meaningless notion of what one’s passport says (unless you are at the immigration counter in the airport). Then there is the more significant notion of one’s identity. For most people, what is in their passport and their identity is the same thing. He spent 1 year (which I doubt he remembers) living in the UK, not of his own choosing. Has since lived 44 out of his 45 years in Ireland – which experience do you think has shaped him more? He’s spent 25 years (or more) at an age when he can choose where he wants to live – it’s Ireland. His family live there including children, he conducts his live largely from Ireland. Apart from U2-related activity, how much time does he spend in the UK? If, hypothetically, he walked into whatever govt department he needs to, and changes his citizenship and passport to Irish, has anything actually changed for him, apart from the colour of his passport? He is still the same person. What is written on a piece of paper, is not as significant to these characteristics of his identity.

Despite all that, I am not proposing that the article states he is Irish (even though it would be a better choice than he is British if one had to be chosen). I simply think that the article should list the facts (birth place, chosen place of residence, etc) as the article currently does, rather than try and "claim" him as one or the other.--Merbabu 01:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

• What a complete and utter load of bo**ocks. The claim for him as 'British' is based on facts (lineage, birth, passport). Your preference for 'Irish' is based on your uninformed assumption of his personal opinion. Residency, however long, is irrelevant to personal preference. Unless you know The Edge personally, you are speculating. Let's apply your argument over at the Irish and Irish-American lists, shall we? ;-) 195.92.40.49 12:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)