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UMD Movies

I do not believe Sony would press pornography onto UMDs - and currently only Sony can manufacture. Please give source. Lmnt 15:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A quick Google search reveals [1], [2], and [3]. -- ReyBrujo 16:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification Lmnt 15:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Firmware clarification needed

does sony force firmware upgrades by including them on games? this is unclear. is there an option to refuse when game is inserted. how prevalent are firmware upgrade games? its nice to know how hostile sony is towards the homebrew movement. --freddyweidwerererw--:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.141.181.156 (talk)

As far as I know, no. Some games require a determined firmware or higher, otherwise they don't run. Firmware isn't included in games, you need to download and install them yourself. -- ReyBrujo 03:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Game that require a certain firmware include the update software on the disc. Juggaleaux 05:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, new games REQUIRE new firmware, which ARE included in the discs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.23.234.125 (talk • contribs) .
Yes some new games include V2.6. Soon prolly 2.7. On the disk the update is.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 23:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Loco Roco requires 2.71. 64.247.206.184 17:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Only the demo of Loco Roco requires 2.71, the original game requires 2.6. HellDragon 00:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The games don't "need" the firmware upgrade as such. This has been proven with a piece of homebrew called X-Flash which you can use to trick the PSP into thinking it's any firmware version you want (like 13.39 for example). As long as it's higher, the games will run. Sony merely do it to try to force the update upon you, or to provide the updates if you want them (as most people who don't use homebrew do). Oh and the firmware IS ALWAYS included on the UMD's if it's supposedly "required". Huds601 10:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

move

This article should be moved, as the article itself states to the official name being PSP. Sony refers the system as the PSP so it should definitly moved. 68.194.16.14 00:11, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The system is the Playstation Portable, anon. PSP is an acronym, just like PS1 refers to Playstation, and PS2 stands for Playstation 2. This article will stay right where it is. Daniel Davis 01:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also I'm pretty sure the patents and the system manual itself says PlayStation Portable. Jedi6-(need help?) 01:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention Sony's official website has the words "Playstation Portable" in big bold letters right on the system's listing. Daniel Davis 01:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename article "Not to mention Sony's official website has the words "Playstation Portable" in big bold letters right on the system's listing." Yes, it also has PSP about 5 font sizes bigger before it. The article should definitly be changed to PSP. That's is its official name. Some people know what the PSP is without even knowing what it stands for. Every single time the name of the machine is wrote, it is always 'PSP' sometimes with 'PlayStation Portable' written next to it to show the other name. PlayStation and PlayStation2 are the official names with the shortened versions (PS1 and PS2) being used less (the banner at the top of PlayStation 2 games says PlayStation 2 and the cover of PSP games says PSP). Also check the first line, "most commonly abreviated to 'PSP'" (both by the manufacturer and audience). Sony only list Playstation, PSP and UMD as their trademarks, 'Playstation Portable' hasn't been mentioned by the company in any of their copyright notices. Why not call the Nintendo DS page "Dual Screen". Because it's wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.141.141.10 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
While it seems PSP is the offical primary name, I think the article should remain at PlayStation Portable for disambiguation purposes. There is already a diambiguation page at PSP, and Sony PR indicates that PlayStation Portable is a correct name, albeit a secondary name. As for naming the Nintendo DS article "Dual Screen", Nintendo never committed to DS standing for anything officially, so that comparison isn't completely fair. Dancter 00:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been discussed and beaten more than once before. See the archives (e.g. Proposed Move Redux). I don't see this attempt being any more successful. However, I would like to add that per Wikipedia's naming conventions it would be more appropriate to use PSP if it didn't "conflict with the names of other people or things." --Kamasutra 09:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

top-selling article?

This article says GTA: Liberty City Stories is the top selling game, but the Need for Speed article says NFS: Undreground Rivals is. Which one is correct? BackInBlack 12:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GTA is the best selling, Need for speed use to be though. Jedi6-(need help?) 05:55, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

comparison picture

Could a comparison picture of the psp vs. the ds lite be produced for the page? Or at least a picture showing more similar onscreen images?

I've got DevHook on my PSP with the screen capture module, so I'll expand the Devhook article at some point with info on the screen capture mod and provide some screenshots for the article and animated gif's using the screen capture's video tool. When I'll do this I don't know, I got a busy week ahead of me, but I'll try and get this done sometime in the next week or two. Huds601 10:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted to remove talk-like content

I reverted to remove the following:

This is an update by a PSP Senior Owner, known as spartan878 or spartan108, on April 21, 2006. The paragraph including the new features of PSP Firmware Version 3.0 are fake. There was a photoshopped picture made by an unknown user, that made the fake 3.0 picture. It would be GREAT to have an email program, paint, an organizer, that is my PSP dream! But, it is not true, the paragraph ABOVE THAT is true: At the PlayStation Briefing conference on [[March 15]], [[2006]] in Japan, Sony revealed plans for future firmware updates to include [[Macromedia Flash]] software and enhanced RSS support for internet radio with later updates providing support for streaming RSS video. Future updates will also add Video and Voiceover Communication via IP support, using the upcoming PSP EyeToy Camera. Other additions will include GPS and Camera support and additional language fonts.<ref name="pspfut">{{cite news | url=http://psp.ign.com/articles/696/696079p1.html | title=Sony Outlines PSP Future - New peripherals, new updates and new games, straight from Japan | author=Anoop Gantayat | publisher=IGN | date=March 15, 2006}}</ref>

--Mwongozi 23:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uses as a PDA

I may be out of line here, but I think it's worth mentioning. Given the capability of a PSP to be used to browse the internet, download, etc. One would think that more than just myself would use it as a PDA, at least for looking up documents or such.

Yet the firmware does not include a tool to view text files from the memory stick.

There is a workaround, as you can view offline web pages without a connection to the internet, so long as you know the exact location on the memory stick. (it will only load .html, or else it says 'content can not be displayed'.)

You can also read .txt oriented word documents. All you do is place it in the root of the memory stick and load it. Here is an example. file:/dvc.txt As you can see, here I loaded 'dvc', a word document. DVC stands for 'Da Vinci Code'

At the point at which the internet browser was still an exploit in the Wipeout Pure game, these were produced & placed on the internet as easy links to where you would go most often. Some even included HTML-based games & tools.

They are still usable, but the browser update in the firmware seems to have stopped most 'Portals', as they were called, from being used much anymore. (At least in my case, in which the one I found needing to be scrapped & jury-rigged in order to really work.

Perhaps even just a mention in the homebrew section may be acceptable. Or if a sub-section of 'features' titled 'browser', with a mention, just to show the capability. I assume that if we are to make this as NPOV as possible, we should note that some people will look at this article & decide wether or not they want this. (I know I did before I bought one)

Disclaimer: I did not say we should advertise this! I notice a lot of arguing on these pages & don't want to start anything. Bubacxo April 24, 2006

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Television Hook-Up/Interface?

Is there anything one can buy for the PSP and another system that would allow one to view games and PSP movies on a normal television? I'm thinking the Gamecube's Gameboy Advance player in spirit, here. Rockhound 02:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can only do it with the PSP dev kit, which is 8 grand. --mboverload@ 18:51, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that Lik Sang offer such a device, no development kit required, see [4] --Oscarthecat 20:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but that's just a camera in a box. =) However, it does accomplish Rockhound's goal. Thanks for the link --mboverload@ 21:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, but is there anything officially licensed by Sony? I'm really nervous about getting a PSP, and then doing this, and somehow voiding warranties or what have you. Rockhound 01:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There were these TV adapters for the PSP at my local GameStop for $80 (too high!) NYyankees51 22:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few devices now that are able to do this. They all attach over the top of the PSP and, as far as I can tell, record the PSP through a camera in the device, which then attaches to the TV via something like a scart connection. Huds601 10:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CPU info

The PSP's CPU is a dual-core MIPS32 R4000-based CPU (little endian), each core being globally clocked between 1 and 333 MHz. During the GDC, Sony revealed that it has currently capped the PSP's CPU clock at 222 MHz. Its reasons for doing so are unknown, but are the subject of some speculation. The cap was previously set at the level of add-on software, not through the firmware (though the crossbar runs at 222 MHz). Unofficial software hacks can unlock 333 MHz operation, but Sony is not allowing any official programmers use 333 MHz at this time. The primary CPU core is responsible for traditional game processor functions; the secondary core, dubbed the "Virtual Media Engine," is responsible for decoding multimedia, for example the H.264 decoder.

It's not dual core. It's dual processor. VERY big difference.

Sort of, the PSP's main microprocessor is basically a SoC. Somehow or another that's gotten contorted into meaning 'dual core CPU', which is, as you said, incorrect. Still, I think you're just talking across terms if you want to call it a 'dual processor' rather than 'dual core'; that adds no additional clarity. I've tried to improve the article's brief technical treatment of the PSP's microprocessor, despite rather limited technical information to go on (the best information is the photocopied slides from the ExtremeTech reference). -- uberpenguin @ 2006-05-19 13:14Z

Too long

Too long. Please rewrite.--BajillionGremlin 23:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's getting there. Dancter 15:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The homebrew and the UMD movie sections are definitely too long. They've got their own sub-articles, so the section in this article should just be one or two sentences. Certainly doesn't warrant a breakdown of firmware A / B / C etc. --Oscarthecat 20:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2.7 Firmware update

One of the new changes is "A new file extension has been added to playable AAC formats."

This is very cryptic, and no websites seem to explain what it is. My guess is that AAC files in MP4 containers with the M4A extension works now. Tested it with some unmodified iTunes files and it worked. Now, I forgot to check it before updating. Does M4As play in 2.60?
If that's what this change is about, then something could be said about Sony trying to move in on iPod territory directly. 137.158.128.105 00:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
^Trust me Sony cant move in on ipod territory, PSP is a horrible mp3 player. It is very big and, frankly, hard to use. Also it is haevy the only thing going for it is it has speakers, which imo should be on ipods. And I have no idea wat AAC is.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 22:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

"By the end of March 2006, 17.3 million units of the PSP had been shipped[1], however the number of units sold is unknown (Sony does not publish sales figures). It is, however known to be considerably less than the number sold for it's main rival, the Nintendo DS. The Nintendo DS has sold over 16 million units, as stated by George Harrison at the 2006 E3 Expo."

17.3 million units shipped which is considerably less than the DS which sold 16 million? Contradictions right in the same sentence are never a good thing. I took this whole statement out until someone gets acurate figures. Malamockq 06:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not a contradiction

What was meant in the previous article ("By the end of March 2006, 17.3 million units of the PSP had been shipped...") was that the PSP has "shipped" 17.3 million units, but the actual number of units "sold" is in fact less than the Nintendo DS, as stated by George Harrison (Senior Vice President of marketing and corporate communications) at E3 2006.

It should be clear people don't misread the "units shipped" as "units sold".

Also, exact figures on the PSP aren't publically available (Nintendo had "independent sources" to relay information of sales figures to them), so accurate numbers - at least official numbers - probably won't be released. (unsigned post)

George Harrison can yodel with an accordian for what its worth- until we get hard, factual numerical data for the PSP section, we must rely on the data that we do have. What we do have is a shipped clear statement from Sony in regards to the PSP. Those are actual numbers. We do not have sold statements- we cannot speculate either higher or lower numbers (or any estimation between) of sold units in light of the blunt fact. We already have it tagged in the article, right next to the number no less, the prominent word "Units Shipped". That's enough. -- Daniel Davis 12:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, just putting "units shipped" is not enough.
First of all, the "units shipped" is in the row of the table that states "Units SOLD". Many people will not read the small letters next to the 17.3 million, and take the 17.3 million units shipped as 17.3 million units SOLD.
If we are to be fair, the numbers 17.3 million should be taken out completely until we are given an actual number of units SOLD. -- posted 24 May 2006

PSP Units Sold

I believe on the main wikipedia page of the Playstation Portable [5] on the top right table there should be a clarification of how many PSP units have been sold. It only states how many PSP units have shipped worldwide. Unfortunately I can't seem to find any online sources revealing the number of units sold (only shipped) =(. Cuong2u 21:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I second this request. The amount of units shipped doesn't at all reflect how well the PSP has sold. If the amount of units sold figure is going to be used, there should be a disclaimer with it. Btboy500 14:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I third (?) this request. I suggest the number 17.3 million should be completely removed from the table (the row on the table states "Units SOLD").
Even though the words 17.3 million 'units sold' are present, people are more likely to read the bolded "SOLD" rather than the measly 'units shipped'.
It is not possible to calculate the amount, as official numbers don't exist. We have NPD numbers (US, just around 4.5m, just 100k less than DS) and Media Create japanese numbers (3.5m or so units sold). There are no reliable numbers from Europe or other places. I have read that DS is still ahead of PSP in UK, but I have also read PSP managed to reach DS some months ago. -- ReyBrujo 11:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Quite frankly, it is not our responsibility to ensure that people are intelligent. There will always be people who jaywalk, who cavort in the rain during thunderstorms- and people who make assumptions instead of reading the entirety of an article. The shipped notice is neither small (it's the same size as the number itself), and it's sourced- which IS enough. we don't need a gigantic sign saying "This is units shipped!", we merely need to present the information. The DS might be ahead of the PSP in sell numbers, or it might be vice-versa. But we don't have concrete, factual data outside of the shipped numbers, which is why they are there. You want to replace it? Find actual sell numbers. -- Daniel Davis 16:02, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a matter of people's intelligence, but the plain fact the table states: UNITS SOLD (read the words: "SOLD") so it should not contain the numbers "17.3 million", simply because there haven't been 17.3 million units sold.
Also, it doesn't help that it reads 'units sold' in small letters, because the number 17.3 million is in the space where it states: UNITS SOLD. -- g8or8de 25 May 2006
I think it's ridiculous to make such a big stink since even published "units sold" numbers are estimates based on shipped units and sales trends. There is no good way to precisely ascertain "units sold", so why make such a huge fuss about silly semantics? -- uberpenguin @ 2006-05-25 13:14Z

Jesus Christ of course there should be a distinction between units sold and shipped. For some people who are interested in making concrete comparisons between the two this is an important note. It is not about being unintelligent; it is easy to be fooled by the two distinctions. That's why Sony does it. They are the only company that does this within the video game arena. They even include units that have not left the docking bay as sold. NO company does that.

The speculation mentioned is saying that there are "millions less sold". Additionally, it's already been clearly said that they are units shipped, not sold. Stop putting that paragrah in. Finally, Microsoft also mentions units shipped, as to them it is the number that counts; the amount of units sold from them to the retailers. -- ZakuSage 04:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we should do something about the shipped numbers. Either changed "Units sold" (which is probably not a good idea considering it's the standard chart for the consoles) or say unknown and mention the shipped numbers either right after or somewhere else in the article.

I second this opinion. I suggest the table should not state "Units Sold" but be changed to "Units Shipped". Otherwise, take the numbers off completely. I hope people don't become biased over this article in order to support this console.
"You second that opinion" with what is your second edit on Wikipedia total. Good lord, looks like we've got sockpuppets rampaging through here! ZakuSage, I think a checkuser on a few of these "discussion participants" might be in order. -- Daniel Davis 11:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I see no reason to change it... The article already makes it clear what the numbers are, and as I stated earlier, "units sold" is a contrived number anyways. -- uberpenguin @ 2006-06-05 13:04Z
Why don't we just note that the numbers of units sold are unreliable? Because that is exactly what it is. There is a very clear distinction between sold numbers and shipped numbers. Throwing shipped numbers into sales is completely poposterous. I agree that we either change the section to units shipped or remove the shipped numbers from the sales section. We need to do something because the sales section is a mess of jumbled up shipped figures and sales numbers.
-- cherp cherp 2:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


First I am sure Sony ALWAYS mention how many they shipped instead of SOLD. Secondly I am not sure about US market but in Japan, every week there is local chart showing the sell of each game console - just in Japan it hardly sell over 10 thousand a month. --203.218.177.120 14:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Australian yourpsp.com.au site in the news article about platinum games on page 3 states 160,000 machines sold, so how do you reference a flash site.--Atirage 14:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to have a link to the Japanese website, this Wikipedia is English. And PlayStation Portable has its own US and EU website which are both official. So why link to a site which only a handful of people reading this Wiki will be able to even get anything out of? Havok (T/C/c) 11:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The english site is not just a mirror of the japanese one, both are independant. Usually the japanese shows information about firmware upgrades and new games and conventions weeks before the english ones get that it. There is also information that is not available in the english ones, like the PlayStation.Spot (which I notice is not even mentioned in the article). We can see what others think about having that link. My opinion is that it is a reliable source of information, but if nobody want it, remove it. -- ReyBrujo 11:16, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If it's in english, sure, keep it. But if it's Japanese what use is it? If people want more information in japanese, they visit ja.wikipedia.org, and most likely they know about the japanese website. There is absolutly no reason to keep this link. Havok (T/C/c) 09:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As you wish. Consensus is what makes Wikipedia so great. -- ReyBrujo 14:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Homebrew section

Seeing as this section has it's own article, is there really any need for it to be so big? It could be cut down to one paragraph explaining what it means and then redirect people to the homebrew article. Havok (T/C/c) 09:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly agree. The length of this section probably dates back to before it received its own article. I'll happily chop it down. --John D'Adamo 15:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

figure of eight plug

C7 plug

The article mentions that is uses a figure eight plug. Is that actually the IEC connector C7 plug?

If yes, then change the text and link it. 71.199.123.24 07:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My PSP uses the figure 8 plug. --Thaddius 15:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Consistency

I've noticed that a lot of the spiel to do with firmware is inconsistent. For example:

  • "firmware version 2.7"
  • "Firmware 2.71"
  • "firmware v2.60"
  • "update 2.50"

...and so on. I think we should use some sort of standard format, such as whether to have a "v" at the start. Personally, I think "firmware version x.xx" is easier to understand, and then "firmware x.xx" could be used from thereon.

If nobody objects, I'll go through and update all occurences so at least we have some sort of standard naming convention. --Tim1988 talk 13:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That would be nice. I usually tag articles or sections with the Template:Update tag to get someone who knows about the topic update it. -- ReyBrujo 13:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


LocoRoco Firmware

I changed the firmware version needed for PAL LocoRoco. The demo needs 2.70, but the actual game only needs 2.60. I know this because A) it's the version included and B) I just upgraded from 2.00 to play it.

Donutta 16:43, 29 June 2006 (GMT +12)

PNG image format in firmware

The psp has had support for png image format since firmware 1.0 but only as background images in the game section of the xmb, for instance the save game files. The photo section only supported it with 2.0. I cant figure out how to write this into the article though.Atirage 04:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC) There's no point in putting this in the article, as PNG viewing wasn't something avaliable to everyone as a useful function. It's best left out imo 82.46.37.33 18:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Something really needs to be done about the constant vandalism on this article. Seemingly, virtually all edits these days are just vandalism attempts. I would suggest blocking edits by anonymous or newly-registered users, just as the PS3 article has, as they are the vast majority of the vandels. ZakuSage 18:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would also suggest being wary of intentional corporate vandalism by the companies involved. Remember these pages are free advertising. Crash01 02:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PSP White ad

Should something about this ad be added to the article? Havok (T/C/c) 21:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the Criticisms could get a note about the controversy the ads are having (the jump one in the subway, and the white ad). -- ReyBrujo 21:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"variants of this ad that negated charges of racism... had the black woman dominant on top of the white woman." Which, of course, isn't in the least bit racist. I guess I need to go buy a new dictionary. Aska 11:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speaking of, why isn't there anything about those American ads with the squirrels and dustballs who are clear racial stereotypes?
Because they AREN'T racial stereotypes. Just because a cartoon character might have an accent doesn't mean in any way that said character is depicting a stereotype- it just means that the actor who did the VA for said character happens to have that accent. To attempt to force from the airwaves (in that vein) anyone who speaks with an accent- now THAT would be racist. We're talking about squirrels and fluff here, not cartoon versions of aunt mam. Ex-Nintendo Employee 02:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

reverted claims of criticism

Hey people; many homebrew fans out there have been adding criticism to this article due to PSP's firmware upgrades and edits about it keep being reverted, this leads us to a choice, to either have Sony allow homebrew on future firmware, or to protect the article from editors on Wikipedia? What shall it be? --Nintendude message 16:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the most recent edits to the criticism section due to them being unsourced POVs. I would entirely prefer to remove the criticism section as it shouldn't be found in an encyclopedia in the first place, but would not want to do something as contraversial as that. Any thoughts? ZakuSage 02:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Removing sourced criticism would be a blatant violation of WP:NPOV. I could see how some points could be broken up into the article itself (the first two). I think those two first points should be intergrated into the article itself. The White PSP ad should be in a new section titled "Controversey." Put that other ad campaign (the graffiti-like ads) in that section as well. Hbdragon88 22:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gamesharing

Should we make a list of the PSP Gamesharing games? --Ideal4real 05:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)Ideal4real[reply]

Nevermind, I just did it myself. --Ideal4real 05:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted the last paragraph explaining some Games that feature Gamesharing; I figured there was no need for this since I made a whole article about it.--Ideal4real 18:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PSP "sales" chart

An anon attempted to add several sales charts to the page, which gives an incorrect perception-

  • First of all, the charts are outdated- Note the link to some site called "VGCharts" he mentioned, whose shipment data is woefully old. That site still says PSP shipments in the US are 6.39 million[6]. Actual Sony shipments for the US stand at 8.17 million. Japan's shipments according to that site are 4.70M[7], while the actual numbers are 5.2 million.
  • Conversely, that site he gave ("VGCharts") as a reference isn't correct on the DS either (it gives total shipments worldwide at only 16.73 million)[8]. Of course he doesn't mention that at all in his edit. Instead he switches gears to an entirely DIFFERENT site for the DS numbers, in order to give Nintendo's system a much higher total of 20 million units.
  • Lastly, he completely omits European sales data altogether, leaving the number as a "?", despite the fact that it's a major part of worldwide sales.

I've reverted it. Ex-Nintendo Employee 01:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greatest Hits section

I added the greatest hits lineup. It's accurate and acceptable to my standards. Feel free to edit if neccasary or whenever it gets outdated.--Shamo0 06:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you deleted the List of PlayStation Portable games in the process.--Ideal4real 00:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I edited it and put up a whole list for ya.--Ideal4real 05:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some idiot deleted the page. That took me a long time to make!--Ideal4real 15:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just so you know, I didn't delete anything ^.^; I'm not saying you're blaming me but just incase anyone else thinks I did I didn't.Shamo0 18:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I know who did it. It was this guy named Crumbsucker.--Ideal4real 19:37, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I found it. Whew! that was a lot of backtracking. I thought I lost it forever. Crumbsucker, if you're gonna do that, then please, talk to us first. That list is helpful because not only does it detatch from the "Already cluttered" Sony list, it shows the prices in what region. So next time, do us all a favor and before you edit, talk to us OK?--Ideal4real 02:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my GOD! He did it again! You know what? Since my contributions here on Wikipedia goes unnoticed, i'm not bringing it back anymore. I tried to settle this in a calm, respectful manner, but I just can't do it anymore. Y'all just gonna sit there and let that guy edit anything he wants, right? Fine, I won't contribute to anymore lists on the PSP. How 'bout that?--Ideal4real 03:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Original PSP Page

I refreshed it to how it was 1 week ago. I included the List of PlayStation Portable games and other things. Please leave it be, it's not hurting anyone, so let it stay.--Ideal4real 05:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uhm... Why didn't you just take the List of PlayStation Portable games and put it into the article? Ex-Nintendo Employee 05:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I figured it should get it's own, you know, little space. If you think changing it will benefit it, the go ahead, be my guest. Ideal4real 18:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wireless networking

The "Wireless networking" section needs a lot of attending to. I removed a bit about the PSP supporting JavaScript because its Java support was uncertain, because the two are related only by name and are used in completely different situations, and I edited "Java Script" to Java. There's a lot of remaining "citation needed", too. --Spug 18:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P!nk pack price

"the P!nk PSP Value Pack will cost €2290, or £1690"

Is this true?! Those prices are outrageous! Perhaps a zero needs to be knocked off the end? Xzamuel 19:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's completely inacurate. It will be a PSP Value Pack, retailing at £180, complete with normal Value pack extras, and the extra Pink UMD Video. Huds601 10:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted

Someone spammed the page with Crickeys in honor of the late Steve Irwin. While it's a nice homage, it is blatant spam. I reverted it back to the one before it. Mahare 00:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Piracy Section

I have removed the Piracy section because there is piracy evident on EVERY major console, and yet none (aside from dreamcast) have sections on it. Additionally, the information was extremely out of date, only containing information relevent as of greater then a year ago. ZakuSage 17:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


UMD Movies

This section has nothing to do with umds, just how to convert files to play on the psp. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.154.173.50 (talk • contribs) .

"Nightmarishly Hard"

The criticism section makes reference to Wired referring to the PSP and getting MP3s onto it as "Nightmarishly Hard" -- yet on the page linked in the reference I can find no such quote -- it's possible the linked ref has changed since that text was added. Zero sharp 21:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's an overstatement whether it actually came from Wired or not- it is quite simple getting mp3s onto the PSP. A child could do it. John D'Adamo 22:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the quote. The link in the ref is now dead (which it wasn't before). If anyone wishes to contest my removal, plz. discuss it here -- I'm more than willing to be wrong. Zero sharp 05:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Specs

The tech specs needs some cleaning up to be done. Kind of like the one for the Nintendo DS. Spareus151 17:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel http://pspupdates.qj.net should be added as an external link, as it seems to have accurate, up to date news regarding the PSP and Homebrew developments. Huds601 10:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Error on page

There is an error on the Units Sold in the info box, it is actually saying the number of units shipped. Either put the actual units sold in there or change the info box to units shipped, but even with the latter it wont be consistant with other hardware articles that list units sold JayKeaton 21:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sony doesn't release "Units Sold", but rather units shipped. All other numbers are considered estimates at best, and are therefore unrelyable. This is consistant with PS1, PS2, and most probably PS3 in the future. - ZakuSage 03:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, for consoles as old as the ps2 and ps1 it seems reasonable, but for the PSP it seems a little questionable. I guess it's still a good indication of physically how many psps are in the world JayKeaton 05:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Section "Sales and competition"

I've removed the Sales and competition section, as it largely contains out of date information presented in a poor manner. Additionally, most of the information the section tries to get forth can essentially be found by just looking at the infoboxes for PSP and DS. - ZakuSage 00:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be put back in, but the information should be redone as it's now a bit outdated and badly organized. Arkhiver 08:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it should go back, but have no PSPvsDS crap, like how the DS doesn't have PSPvsDS crap in it's S&C. Hijak 03:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Downloads

On the official site there are downloads for certain games (like soccer and Loco Roco). Are these downloads free? If they are, should this be incorporated into the article? Also, are the Firmware updates free?

The game demos are free, as are the firmware updates. Both are already included in the article. - ZakuSage 01:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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