Template talk:Certification Table Entry: Difference between revisions

South Africa certifications

RiSA has a new page for certifications which includes a searchable database here. The current link that the template uses only includes certifications up to November 24, 2022. ThedancingMOONpolice (talk) 03:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

@ThedancingMOONpolice:  Done I un-archived your request since it was not answered. Thanks for noticing the new link. I replaced the URL with the one you provided. The new URL opens the option to focus the citation link for example we can use Busta 929 or Aurora. I think I may give it a go when I have a little more time. --Muhandes (talk) 10:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for implementing the change. My only question now is what should be done to certifications that are labeled "Multi-Platinum". RiSA indicates that a multi-platinum award is a different level than a double-platinum award, but they don't seem to specify what the multiplier is. ThedancingMOONpolice (talk) 19:34, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

@ThedancingMOONpolice: I don't have an answer. I suggest the use of other corroborating sources to determine the exact certification. Muhandes (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

RIAA template

I found out the RIAA template...to parse the variable to search the RIAA music doesn't work. It could be RIAA changed to new search platform so the search parsing are now fundamentally different, hence always came up "Unfortunately that search produced no certifications. Please try another search." error message. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 09:33, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry my bad. Please ignore it.

I saw Take a Bow (Madonna song) search parsing to RIAA work well, but the Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now search parsing to RIAA doesn't work becuase of an apostrophe. Seem peculiar to a few song (probably guessing) with such titles. Anyway I already made a separate ref tag in Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now to search RIAA correctly. (Though under <<Certifications>> Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now#Certifications anyone who click RIAA link within the template to search RIAA won't work) Please ignore it. Thanks. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 12:02, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

@Cat12zu3: This has nothing to do with our implementation; note that even if you search the website manually for Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now, it fails to find it. In fact, I couldn't find a way to force the website to cite this song directly. In such cases, in order to keep the citation correct, you can omit the title. Muhandes (talk) 10:13, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes even without apostrophe I could not find it manually in the RIAA search and search by <Starship> keyword instead. Sorry to bother you. Please ignore it. Thanks. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 10:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

ARIA template

Hi, for Australian single certifications (ARIA), could someone update the 2023 template to this link Oct 2023 Single Accreds? The current one is still for June 2023 which is outdated. Thanks in advance, Ippantekina (talk) 06:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ippantekina:  Done I updated the links. Feel free to contact me directly when an update is necessary. Muhandes (talk) 09:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Streams or units?

I'm confused about the numbers at Calm Down (Rema_song). It looks like it shows stream numbers for Greece, but units for Nigeria. Sinuhe20 (talk) 16:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Sinuhe20: This has nothing to do with the template since the Template does not support Nigeria. An IP editor used their own formatting to add the Nigerian certification manually. I corrected their work to use a little more standard format which the template enables for unsupported regions. Is there any interest in adding native support for Nigeria? It should be pretty straightforward. By "interest" I mean someone who will enter all the existing certifications, not someone who would use it for three certifications and leave. Muhandes (talk) 10:33, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Would be good if every country uses equivalent units instead of streams. I think the problem here is the Greece template.--Sinuhe20 (talk) 11:37, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Sinuhe20: As far as I know, Greece does not use equivalent units, they use streams. Muhandes (talk) 12:33, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

According to the German article, 100 "stream points" used to equal one sale, I don't know if that's still valid. There is the problem that other countries don't count in stream numbers (e.g. Nigeria), so it could be confusing if you summarize it in a table. Sinuhe20 (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Sinuhe20: Using a Wikipedia article as a source is circular logic. If you can provide a reliable source for this information, we will correct the English article and use it to produce equivalent units. The confusion you are referring to was created by IFPI Greece. We are not at liberty to use unsourced numbers to resolve it. Muhandes (talk) 18:31, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Hungary MAHASZ certifications

I tried to figure out about the MAHASZ Hungary certifications for table entry. I went to their website and it doesn’t say gold, platinum, 2x platinum, 3x platinum, and diamond for both singles and albums. How would I know if it’s certified when it’s not there? Let me know and here’s the website links: https://slagerlistak.hu/arany-es-platinalemezek/kereso; https://slagerlistak.hu/arany-es-platinalemezek/adatbazis FireDragonValo (talk) 19:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@FireDragonValo: Circle is Gold, triangle is Platinum, and the number in superscript is the number of certifications. I don't think they have Diamond. Muhandes (talk) 10:36, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

BVMI certifications

Hi @Muhandes. Not sure if this was brought to your attention yet but according to the most recent guideline report by Bundesverband Musikindustrie, the thresholds for albums and singles released until 29 June 2023 have changed. Any song released on or after 30 June 2023 needs to move 300,000/600,000 units to reach gold/platinum status, respectively. For albums, the threshold was lowered to 75,000/150,000 units for a gold/platinum certification. Would appreciate it if you could adjust the templates. Lk95 (talk) 12:48, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

@Lk95: Thanks, I'll add this to my TDL. Muhandes (talk) 12:29, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

@Lk95:  Done. I implemented the changes, as well as a change in the diamond level for singles. There should be many invalid certifications now, since |relyear=2023 now requires |relmonth= and in addition, |relmonth=6 requires |relday=. The faulty certifications should be populating the appropriate maintenance category soon: Category:Pages using Certification Table Entry-Sales with missing information (0) Let me know if there are any further issues. --Muhandes (talk) 10:06, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

@Muhandes thanks a lot for your help. Lk95 (talk) 10:25, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

NVPI certifications

NVPI have updated their web page for certifications to https://nvpi.nl/nvpi-audio/marktinformatie/goud-platina-diamant/ to reflect the introduction of diamond certifications. The thresholds for the other levels also appear to have changed according to their regulations document, but the numbers don't round up nicely when converting streams to units. The template needs to be updated as the old link no longer works. ThedancingMOONpolice (talk) 05:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

RIAA Cerification Sales Amount

Regarding RIAA Certification Sales Amount, I saw RIAA sales amount for Gold is 0.5 Million in Special:Diff/1192026000(Gold & Platinum - RIAA), however on the Wiki page the table shows 1 million, hence I made the <<salesamount=500,000>>. (I actually made a manual link via <<certref>> since the current search with only <<Artist>> as <<Christopher Cross>> and <<song>> as <<The Best You Can Do>> without the apostrophe ("Arthur's Theme"), still shows empty result. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 16:54, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

As of now current version, the RIAA search link shows empty result [1] --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 16:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I found not just familiar songs that got Gold the threshold is 0.5 million, but also Taylor Swift (that I think of as Times Magazine Person of the year even though I didn't heard her songs), Swift's 2023, 2020 gold that amount is also 0.5 million. [2] --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

In the code it is set that singles with certyear<1989 have Gold=1 million according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_certification#Singles , and certyear>1989 have 500 thousands. Although all over the site even 1960s singles appear to have 0.5mln sales on gold singles. So I don't know if the site always showed it like this or if it's something new. And regarding search - it seem to be bugged with Christopher Cross' single. Try searching from the scratch this single on the site via advanced search (the one that allows you to fill in detailed parameters). It even finds nothing if you enter only artist's name and nothing more. Solidest (talk) 22:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)