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My problem with using a bot for this job is that there are too many different ways that a person could have added references and I feel that human judgement or serious AI is needed to determine if an article is really unreferenced. Someone could just write "I found an article about this in Scientific American called ''The Amazing Life of the Snail'', in Volume 22, Issue 6". How would a bot find that? Nevertheless, in manual mode it might save time, since it may be quicker to tell the bot to send an e-mail than to write one yourself. —[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 15:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
My problem with using a bot for this job is that there are too many different ways that a person could have added references and I feel that human judgement or serious AI is needed to determine if an article is really unreferenced. Someone could just write "I found an article about this in Scientific American called ''The Amazing Life of the Snail'', in Volume 22, Issue 6". How would a bot find that? Nevertheless, in manual mode it might save time, since it may be quicker to tell the bot to send an e-mail than to write one yourself. —[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 15:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:I've seen about 3 of these messages today, so it seems to be working to some extent. I believe it detects whether users added ref tags. If they didn't, it leaves a thorough explanation on how to place them on their talk pages (and it's highlighted in green, so they can't miss it). [[User:FoCuSandLeArN|FoCuSandLeArN]] ([[User talk:FoCuSandLeArN|talk]]) 16:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:I've seen about 3 of these messages today, so it seems to be working to some extent. I believe it detects whether users added ref tags. If they didn't, it leaves a thorough explanation on how to place them on their talk pages (and it's highlighted in green, so they can't miss it). [[User:FoCuSandLeArN|FoCuSandLeArN]] ([[User talk:FoCuSandLeArN|talk]]) 16:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Undue weight banner at [[Regina Martínez Pérez]]'s article ==

Hi Anne, you added an ''undue weight'' banner at [[Regina Martínez Pérez]] but no specific concerns were left in the related Talk page. Can you explain at [[Talk:Regina Martínez Pérez#What undue weight?]], please? I'm willing to improve that page and your indications will be useful. Thank you!--[[User:QuimGil|QuimGil]] ([[User talk:QuimGil|talk]]) 17:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week, for jumping right in with content creation. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:The Interior submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

Anne Delong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has only been here since early December 2012, but has already completed over 3,000 edits. She is active on several Wikiprojects, checking and assessing new articles. Despite only recently graduating from the "help" stage herself, she is already passing along what she has learned to newbs through the Teahouse (see her talk page for evidence). She has started several new articles (HMCS Nene (K270), List of bluegrass bands, Dixie Flyers) and is keen on learning new wiki skills. I think she should be recognized as an exceptional addition to the editing corps. Thanks for your consideration, The Interior (Talk)

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week: 

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Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 17:14, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Editor Retention
Editor of the Week
Anne is a bluegrass musician
Anne Delong
Editor of the Week
for the week beginning April 14, 2013
Here since December 2012, Anne Delong has been one of Teahouse's most prolific guests, and has impressed everyone with her dedication to learn and maturity. With time, she has grown into the fine editor that she is today, and still frequents there with refreshing questions. Being a bluegrass musician herself, it remains her topic of choice, and she has been constantly involved in creating articles. She has also been involved in various projects and active mentoring all the while. Good Wikipedia editing is truly like harmonized singing. Anne Delong's "voice" melds with everyone she works with! In her own words, What goes around comes around!
Recognized forBeing a model "new editor" for Wikipedia
Nomination page


Congrats! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations from me too; well-deserved! Huon (talk) 01:24, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I take the afternoon off to go to a jam session, and look what happens! Thanks, everyone. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:43, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
PS - none of the skinny young musicians in that photo look anything like me! —Anne Delong (talk) 17:16, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was already starting to wonder which one was you! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:27, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Anne. We can change the photo.  Done....Do you have one that you Like? Afterall, it will forever be enshrined in the WER Hall of Fame. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:46, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

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Ocaasi t | c 19:38, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article about Prof. Alain de Weck

Dear Mrs. Anne Delong:

Many thanks for your initial response regarding the article for "Alain de Weck". I have in the meantime completed an extensive article on this eminent scientist (who happens to be my father) in the English Wikipedia. There are extensive references including Digital Object Identifiers (DOIs) to scientific articles that are relevant. I believe the article is ready to publish on Wikipedia. I saved it but am unsure if it is in your queue again to be reviewed. I hope it could be published in the next couple of days since my father passed away recently and there is a large community looking for an article on him.

If the English article is approved it is then my intention to create a n equivalent German and French version (a German article already exists but it is very short).

Many thanks for your help and best wishes. (Sorry I am new to Wikipedia and probably making many faux pas)

Prof. Olivier de Weck [email protected] Deweck (talk) 00:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look at that!

Look at the train of thought I've just had: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Corps Palatia Munich --> File --> Barnstar.

Coincidence? FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's a passing resemblance, but the barnstar design was uploaded years before the article, and the descriptions are in different languages, so unless you are seeing something that I am missing, it's a coincidence. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:12, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I reckon whoever created the barnstar was aware of the Corps Palatia. Anyway, it was just a curiosity. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Anne Delong. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
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Wikipedia Article for Surbhi Jyoti

Hi Anne,

I am from India and know Surbhi Jyoti(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Surbhi_Jyoti) as an Television and Punjabi(Language) Movies Actor. I regularly watch Qubool Hai(Hindi Television Drama/Serial) in which Surbhi Jyoti is playing role of a girl named "Zoya Farooqui". She is becoming much popular day by day. Here by I request you to review this article again and guide me to make Surbhi Jyoti's article more authenticate.

Thanks, - Nizam Kazi Co-Founder, ArtLog DiGi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nizamkazi (talk • contribs) 10:50, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for advice about googling Hattie Nestel

Thank you very much for your advice about sourcing an article on Hattie Nestel. I appreciate it very much. And I apologize for using your personal email.

Marcia Gagliardi — Preceding unsigned comment added by HaleyAthol (talk • contribs) 17:10, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear HaleyAthol: There is no need to apologize about the e-mail. There are times when it might be appropriate to e-mail. However, when talking about Wikipedia, it's better to use the talk pages because the articles are a collaboration between many editors, so everyone can see what has already been discussed and don't keep making the same comments over again. Good luck with your article. By the way, there's a special forum for new editors called The Teahouse. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:37, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request for uninvolved 3rd party to comment.

Hello. I am requesting your opinions at Talk:Thomas Savage (died 1611)#Move and add to Thomas Savage as a third party to a discussion which I feel is nearing an impasse. I feel confident that if you chose to participate, your comments ideas and suggestions will be neutral and non-biased in favor or against either of the currently involved participants. If you do not wish to participate, I understand and respect your wishes. Thank you. Technical 13 (talk) 19:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An invitation for you

An invitation for you!

Hello, Anne Delong. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement. If you're interested in participating, please add your name to the list of members. Happy editing! TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Crawford Seven Step Model for Operational Excellence.jpg

Hi Anne, I am new to Wikipedia and don't really know my away around the system.

You have asked if I have permission for the above jpg.

I am the creator and owner of the diagram which is used in my whitepaper on Acedemia.

The methods to proof ownership seems a little perplexing, can you accept this message as permission?

Thank you for your help.


John Crawford — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikichange12 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review of Vote for the Girls

I do appreciate the review of my article for creation for Vote for the Girls. However, I do believe that there needs to be at least one other source (besides the Vote for the Girls web site) in order for what I believe is a resubmission for the Vote for the Girls article on Wikipeidia.

Other than that, I do respect the decision for the decline as I will try to get more sources and will be more than happy to get free images. Aeverine Frathleen Nieves (talk) 09:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An Barnstar for You!

The AFC Backlog Buster Barnstar

Congratulations, Anne Delong! You're receiving the Tireless Contributor Barnstar because you reviewed 116 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! Mdann52 (talk) 12:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crawford Alchemy Blueprint for Operational Excellence

Good morning Anne,

Please would you review my submission again as I have added an extra link that should satisfy your reason for rejection. I have a book and whitepaper published on the subject and is not a whim title I am adding to Wikipedia.

Thank you.


John Crawford — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikichange12 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear John:

I have looked at your article, but I still don't see any citations to independent sources (not written by you or for you). Has your book received any reviews by journalists or other writers about change? Has it been discussed in the press, other than by its publisher? Have other papers been written that discuss it? I have not declined the submission again to give you more time to add these independent sources, but another editor may see the submission and decline it at any time. If the book and paper are really new, it may just be too soon because no one else has written about them yet. If that's the case, just leave the article where it is for a while, add the sources at a later date, and submit the article then. —Anne Delong (talk) 11:41, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

is this a duplicate

You seem to have marked Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Evolutionary Theory of Mate Selection as duplicate of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Evolutionary Theory of Mate Selection. This does not seem to make sense-- is this what you meant to indicate, or is it a duplicate or copyvio from somewhere else? DGG ( talk ) 20:33, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for find this. I cut and pasted the URL from the web site, but it seems my text copy didn't work and my paste buffer instead added the previous URL that I had copied. The copyright text box is so small that I didn't notice the difference. I fixed it. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Sutherland, leading restaurateur and retailer of the 1960s

You kindly asked who owned the copyright of the Obituary which appeared in the Daily Telegraph on 28/10/1998. The answer is that I wrote an Obituary piece for them on commission. The article I submitted to Wikipedia is my own original longer version which was edited back by the Telegraph. The fact that the Obit was commissioned and appeared would I hope justify Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. I note that Robin Sutherland's original partner Michael Chow has his own entry which mentions much of the story from a different perspective. Many other references in the piece are also published in my book about the London restaurants of the 1960s, The Spaghetti Tree, Mario and Franco and the Trattoria Revolution, Primavera Books, London, 2009. Thank you again for your advice and assistance! Alasdairss (talk) 10:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Alasdair Scott SutherlandAlasdairss (talk) 10:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Alasdairss: It wasn't me that asked about the copyright issue. It must have been Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk, the one who placed the copyright notice. Wikipedia is pretty strict about making sure that all of its text is specially written for the encyclopedia, and is not just copies of material published elsewhere. I declined your article for another reason: To be the subject of a Wikipedia article, a person or their work has to have been written about extensively in the media or in books by those not connected to them (in this case restaurant critics, business and local news, etc.) A book written by a relative could be used as a reference for facts, as long as its not the only source, but not to establish notability; only information published by independent authors and journalists count in that case.

About the copyright issue: I don't know about the Daily Telegraph, but most newspapers assume copyright of everything they publish, no matter who wrote it. The most straightforward thing to do would be to rewrite the text so that none of the sentences are the same as in the obituary or in any of your own published works. Then you will not need to worry about that issue at all. Before going to that trouble, though, make sure that you have found those independent sources mentioned above, or the article will be declined.

I hope this helps. —Anne Delong (talk) 12:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kekoo Gandhy

Hi Anne Delong Thank you for looking over the page I had created for Kekoo Gandhy. You have ruled out the single reference that I had for this article so far, but I am unclear as to the precise reason, other than the reference should not be by the person. Does this rule out all published interview articles as references, then? What about interview-based articles about him? At least one US academic has produced an item on his life and work in such fashion. Of course, now that Kekoo Gandhy has died, there have been obituaries in several national Indian newspapers. But are any of these acceptable as references? Some of the information, I fear, about his early life is going to be unverifiable through references that are other than the interviews he gave while alive. Should I presume, then, that for Wikipedia purposes those elements of his life will have be absent? Thanks for your input. Kind regards Jim Moody — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmo (talk • contribs) 12:48, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Jim:

You have asked a very good question about published interviews. I believe that Wikipedia editors and reviewers take each case individually in this situation. For example, if a person is interviewed by a professional journalist, and the interviewer writes introductory information, we assume that he or she would have checked the facts before writing it. Also, if the person being interviewed gives non-controversial information, such as "My restaurant is in London, England", the interview can be used to back up that fact. Surely the interviewer would have spoken up it this obvious fact were not true. However, if in the same interview the person says "Everyone loves my spaghetti sauce.", that wouldn't be accepted. An independent food critic would need to write about that. In general, interviews are weak sources because most of the text is the subject's own words, and people don't always see themselves as others see them. The weaker the source, the more are needed to corroborate facts. However, if there are a number of different interviews published in reliable sources, they should be included as references, because the fact of being interviewed means that the subject had come to the attention of the press. Interviews which are not published shouldn't be used at all.

In reference to your article, I see that some of the events happened long ago. There are surely news reports about some of these happenings, but they may be hard to find because there was no Internet then. I faced the same problem when creating this page: Toronto Light Opera Association. I couldn't use my mother's first hand information as a source; I had to travel to a city library and look up old microfilm newspaper records.

By the way, I have removed the Op Cit references in the article and changed them to refer to the actual source. Op cit doesn't work well in Wikipedia, because people will come along and add a citation to a new source in between, and then the op cit points to the wrong reference.

I hope this helps. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:46, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Location of Mosport

Hi Anne, I agree with your post for me regarding the location of Mosport not being in Bowmanville. I actually have family that live just south of the track near Orono. For some reason the track to this day still has their address listed on their website as 3233 Concession Road 10, Bowmanville, and all major racing series including NASCAR and the American Le Mans Series have it listed as Bowmanville including on their international television broadcasts. I'm not sure why, but I believe they put the location of all tracks as being the nearest large population centre. TorontoGuy79

TorontoGuy79 (talk) 02:27, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Polygog/Quantum Keyhole

Polygog (talk) 03:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Quantum Keyhole

Hello Anne,

I am the author and copyright holder of the article you cite as copyright violation (http://www.spacetimeandtheuniverse.com/against-mainstream/4620-quantum-keyhole.html).


Please, restore my article my unpublished article. Please advise as to any other issue(s) that my inhibit publishing User:Polygog/Quantum Keyhole.

Highest Regard,

Kenneth Larimer

Just to clarify, the Quantum Keyhole article was post at wikipedia on 26 July 2010, while the http://www.spacetimeandtheuniverse.com/against-mainstream/4620-quantum-keyhole.html version was posted in November 2010 and cites the wikipedia source.


Dear Kenneth:

I am afraid that because the article was newly submitted I assumed wrongly that it was newer than the web site. I can't undo the delete directly, but I will contact an administrator to do so. However, the article will still be declined (but not deleted) unless you can show with several independent sources that Quantum Keyhole has been written about by journalists and other authors. It's part of Wikipedia policy that the encyclopedia isn't to be used to promote new terms and ideas. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:56, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The draft never was deleted. I've reverted the blanking and left a comment at the draft. Huon (talk) 04:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Draft page of Eurolib, references added

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Eurolib

Dear Miss Delong,

My article was rejected as unreferenced. We have entered appropriate references alongwith the link to Eurolib website and to our members.

Thank you in advance to consider it. Liutprando Liutprando (talk) 12:34, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

requested modifications to draft of Eurolib page done

Draft page of Eurolib, references fixed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Eurolib

Dear Miss Delong,

I have fixed the references as requested.

Thank you once again Best Regards Liutprando

Liutprando (talk) 15:21, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Liutprando:

I see that you have added a couple of good references. However, now that I see your web site, I realize that instead or writing about EuroLib you have copied text from the web site. Wikipedia cannot accept text which is published elsewhere for copyright reasons. Each author must submit his or her own written work, and cannot submit as the representative of an organization. I have blanked out the parts that need to be rewritten.

When you have finished, look at the pink box at the top of the page and you will see a place to click to resubmit the article for review.

Also, please have patience and remember that Wikipedia is a world wide organization of volunteers. Reviewers are not always at their keyboards, and it may take some time before you receive a reply when you post a message. Your first post came in the middle of the night for me here in Canada. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:51, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Justice Action page

Dear Anne,

Thank you for your time reviewing the state of my article.

You state "Most of the citations you had were created by the group's own people," - In reference to articles I posted in which Justice Action representatives are used as media sources.

I'm not sure I completely understand this.

Whilst the majority of those sources involve Justice Action speaking about its own position on an issue - is not the repeated use of the organisation as a source of information/commentary, in and of itself - not a substantiation of its noteworthy status?

What type of article would be better? One in which Justice Action does not speak or give a position at all?

Can you please clarify? Can I use the articles I have listed? I'm confused as to what the threshold is here? Many of the articles establish the group as an advocacy service, and the unstated implication is that their opinion is noteworthy enough to be contribute to journalistic analysis or discussion of issues at hand.

What other forms of media would be available to a community group like Justice Action other than this sort of coverage?

Thanks a lot for your time and assistance.

answer on your comments on article draft David Prangishvili

Dear Anne Delong The information presented in the article is now confirmed by the references to the works of David Prangishvili. In all of these publications, in which the discovery of new virus families and their description are reported, David Prangishvili is a corresponding author. This means that he planned and directed the reported studies and that the work has been done in his research group. Moreover, there are articles in Wikipedia on the new virus families described by David Prangishvili and links to them are provided. In the revised article I also mention that David Prangishvili is the author of more than 130 publications in peer-reviewed scientific journals and books. Moreover, the link is provided to the list of foreign members of the Georgian National Academy of Sciences which includes David Prangishvili.

Best regards user anastrokovaAnastrokova (talk) 13:06, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Anastrokova:

Your article about David Prangishvili is looking pretty good, but it still needs some INDEPENDENT references, ones in which Mr. Prangishvili was not involved in the writing. The publications you put in are good content for the article, and can be used to confirm that fact that he wrote papers, but not for other information in the article. I found one for you in the Encyclopedia of Microbiology, and started a reference section. You can see how the ref tags create the citation numbers automatically.

In the article you say that he received a prize; was there a report in a newspaper or organization journal about the prize? If so, that would make a good reference. He seems to be very well known in this field, so maybe some other scientists have written about his work or he has been featured in a university magazine article. Good luck with this. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:05, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see a quality new editor recognized

Hi, Anne! I haven't been around much and am not able to be around enough to do much that is meaningful, but I did want to drop by and tell you that I am very happy to see you have been named editor of the week! It is a deserved award for you. You hit the ground running here and have not really ever stopped striving to make quality contributions to Wikipedia, and for that I say....Thanks and BRAVO!!!!!! Gtwfan52 (talk) 16:47, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I have supplied some documentation for my new entry Sip 'n Stroll. I've located websites that are promoting such events. What other type of documentation do you recommend to support the activation of this entry? Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yhtak2013 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Yhtak2013: The URLs that you added are all promotional items created by the organizers of the Sip 'n' Strolls. What's needed for confirmation are news reports, magazine articles, reviews, etc., written after the events to show that these events were noted by journalists and other professional writers, and/or published articles written about the organizations by these same independent writers. —Anne Delong (talk) 05:16, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Arab Film Festivals

Hello Anne, I saw you are in charge of reviewing the AfC process of my student Hibba Itani's article 'Arab Film Festivals in the Middle East'. Since the article deals with Arab Film Festivals abroad too, I suggest to simply call the article 'Arab Film Festivals'. If you need any more info please contact me. Thank you, Robert Kluijver (talk) 23:52, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —Anne Delong (talk) 05:38, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have re-submitted article for review

Have resubmitted my article on the "City of Healing" project in Jordan. I added 3 references which I hope will be sufficient. Thank you for your time and expertise in reviewing my article, it is appreciated. voxclamantis 13:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voxclamintis (talk • contribs)

Dear Voxclamintis: Unfortunately, one of the references that you have added to South Asian Building magazine is actually the source of most of the text in this article, which is a copyright violation, and the article will be deleted. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept text that has been copied from published sources. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:48, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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(1) Thank you for your work, and (2) a "pirate" or "clone" WP website publishing pending submissions?

Hi Anne. (1)I want to thank you for your work in cleaning up the ref's and for having added two new references. I really appreciate that. (2) Are you aware that there seems to be a sort of "pirate" or "clone" website apparently directed toward a Japanese language audience that is publishing my article? You can see it here: http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sue_draheim That website apparently also gives access to all other pending articles as well: http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/Category:Pending_AfC_submissions. Thanks again for all your work. Akhooha (talk) 00:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) We're aware of that mirror site, and since all Wikipedia contributions, including drafts, are (supposed to be) freely licensed, there's nothing wrong with that, nor is there anything we can do about it (except that the mirror takes a rather cavalierly view of itself mentioning that the content is freely licensed). Huon (talk) 01:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request review at Ziquejie Rice Terrace

Dear Anne,

Thanks for your comment and suggestion on my article, so now I have added the reference for it, can you review it again, if there is still any problem, please feel free to let me know, I will try my best to make it better! Thank you.

kate (talk) 03:07, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Anne

Hey Anne,

The references in the Sanicola article are there to confirm the statements that the songs have charted. I was advised to do that by Davidwr. Is that cool? 173.52.117.156 (talk) 16:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.52.117.156 (talk) 16:22, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re City of Healing Article rejection

I realized why the copyright issue came up, somehow as the "City of Healing" article which appears in South East Asia Building 2010 originated in my office (DeWolff Partnership Architects) I have never felt any qualms about reproducing it, excerpting or transmitting. I realize now, because it was published by the Southeast Asia Building magazine, the possible copyright problem of downloading the PDF though my included reference link. I am certain the publisher gave us permission to redistribute-after all we wrote it! I have extensive first hand experience on this (KHIBC) project at DeWolff from 2005 to the present and am writing a new article in my own words with new content. References as before with Southeast Asia Building Mag. footnote. Will resubmit asap. voxclamantis 21:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voxclamintis (talk • contribs)

Dear voxclamantis: I am glad that you are going to rewrite the article. Even if you had written the other text yourself as a representative of your company, I believe that the copyright would lie with the company. Wikipedia has a policy that all of its editors must be individuals, not companies or company representatives, so that a neutral point of view can be maintained in the articles. Please be sure to find other independent sources to add to your article, because if the text of the magazine article was a press release from a company connected with the subject, it is a very weak source. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:23, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article for creation review

I would like to thank you for your helpful suggestions and hope that I have been able to incorporate them into the article I am trying to resubmit for review. This is the first time I have attempted to submit an article on Wikipedia and I know I did not properly make use of the helpful tips and suggestion prior to my attempts. I am not able to locate a resubmit button however, and hoped that perhaps you might assist me with a further review and possible acceptance of my article. Thank you for your consideration. The links is as follows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/KGCS-22_Joplin,_Missouri_Southern_State_University 

Rjfjelstad (talk) 22:52, 25 April 2013 (UTC)Robin Fjelstad[reply]

Dear Rjfjelstad: You seem to have found a bug in the submission process. I asked one of the tech people to fix your page so that you can resubmit. I'm sure they'll fix this up quickly. Sorry, I don't have time to do reviewing today; I'm in the middle of something else, but now that it's submitted another editor will see it. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Preferred reference/footnote style for URLs --- semi-hidden with [ ..... ] or exposed?

Hi Anne, What's the preferred reference/footnote style for URLs --- hiding them in between brackets or leaving them exposed and instantly readable? Thanks for your help. Akhooha (talk) 00:25, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) With some very rare exceptions where the URL itself is the information we care about (such as company websites listed in the in company infobox, see for example the "apple.com" link at Apple Inc.) it's always better to "hide" it and instead to give a description of what the linked website is. In particular, we have the {{cite web}} template for website references that takes as parameters not just the URL but also the title, the access date and so on, and will format all that nicely while "hiding" the URL. See also WP:Referencing for beginners. Huon (talk) 02:33, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There, you have an answer from an expert. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:10, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to you both for such quick replies! Akhooha (talk) 04:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your AfC proposal

Hello,

I just wanted to inform you that I have done some formatting changes on the talk page of your AfC proposal. I have also removed one sign of yours from there (which I think may have been misplaced, but could be a signature). Please feel free to put it back if it was indeed a Support vote.

Also, feel free to revert any changes you think are unnecessary. You may also want to look into the RfC process to gather more discussion.

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:30, 28 April 2013 (UTC) [Please post a Talkback if you reply to me][reply]

Thanks, The OriginalSoni, I guess you've done this before. —Anne Delong (talk) 01:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the discussion for RfC so everyone can comment on it. I have also prepared an alternative description heading for you should you wish to use it in your proposal. Feel free to use any parts of it in your original text.
    • This is a proposed change to the current AfC structure to minimize the large number of articles which would be otherwise rejected almost immediately. The proposed mechanism involves a possible pop-up to ask the user to confirm their inclusion of citations. This would discourage such users from submitting the article, but add citations before submitting instead. Any editor who clicks on "YES" without actually reading repeatedly could then be warned/picked out for special attention. All changes, discussion and comments are to be added to User talk:Anne Delong/AfcBox.
TheOriginalSoni (talk) 02:08, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. I was unaware of Rfc. Your description made me realize that maybe expecting citations from first time submitters may be expecting too much, and so I added a comment that maybe references in some form or other might be acceptable, since if we set the bar too high we may lose editors. I didn't have any trouble with citations myself when I was a new submitter, but I had the advantage of having had to write many articles and essays throughout my life.

I have revised my description to be a little more clear. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Justice Action article

Good morning Anne,

I logged in today to find my article, Justice Action, had been deleted by another use because of reasons of deliberate copyright infringement.

This makes me very sad as I didn't have a final draft saved of what I had written outside of what I submitted here and now I must work on an old draft if I am to resubmit my article. It's also frustrating because my article was approved only a week ago, for it to be approved and then deleted so quickly without offering me any help to improve it first is very frustrating and is a big turn off to this whole process; I feel like I'm wasting my time here.

The person deleted it saying it infringed copyright as content was similar to the justiceaction.org website. I did use content from the site as a basis for what I had written but I thought I had referenced it properly, as in some parts I paraphrased their 'about' page and put some quotes in. Other content I wrote just myself. Perhaps I should have looked over it more before submitting it for review, but I certainly did not infringe any copyright deliberately, but rather through my own error. Why I wasn't given an opportunity to improve the text, add necessary references or just remove bits that were too similar to justiceaction's content I'm not sure.

I will now be resubmitting the article from scratch which is very frustrating as I was really happy with how the other version ended up, and took me a considerable amount of time as I struggle with wikipedia's formatting/code etc.

Is there any way I can recover my article if it has been deleted?

Thanks for your help.

Oceanlovejustice (talk) 23:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC) -David 23:43, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Oceanlovejustice:

It seems that Black Kite is the administrator who discovered the copyright problems and deleted the article. You can leave a message on this administrator's talk page, and ask for the text to be sent to your e-mail address. That way you can change it into your own words before bringing it back to Wikipedia, and you won't have to redo the references, etc. be sure to give the complete name of the page Justice Action (Australia). Please don't change just a few words; an encyclopedia article should be written from the point of view of a person not connected at all with the organization. I hope this helps. By the way, there is a special forum for new users the Teahouse, which I found helpful when I first started. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:47, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • (Additional comment from talk page stalker) Oceanjusticelove, we take our copyright infringement very seriously. So even if a single line appears to be a direct copy of somewhere else whose copyright may not be ours, we have to remove it immediately. I suggest that you ask the admin for your article, and rewrite it "completely". Please make sure not a single line will be the same as the previous page, and only then bring it back to Wikipedia. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 05:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Landlet

I've corrected the link you posted on their page - there's a space in front of the L which made it a redlink. Took me a bit to work out why I couldn't get to the page. Apart from that, I've deleted their userpage and blocked them for spamusername. Peridon (talk) 13:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And now deleted the AfC page as a copyvio... Peridon (talk) 13:57, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Peridon:

It seems that I was the one who accidentally added the space. I'm not sure how I managed to do this. However, I used the script to decline the page, so why didn't it replicate the page name? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:57, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know you could start a title with a space anyway. I wondered whether or not to move it, but decided against as it obviously wasn't going to be around for long. I wouldn't worry about it. Peridon (talk) 17:11, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Anne Delong. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Chamal T•C 02:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template.[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for your feed-back on my proposed article about Mohamed Sahnoun. I'll try to follow your suggestions. Sbrass (talk) 14:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Translating

Hello Anne,

On April 17th, I tried to create a new article called Econocom. I wanted to create a translation of the corresponding article in the French Wikipdia, but the submission has been declined. Do I have to translate the article myself ?

Regards,

Jean-Marc Vidal — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMPVID (talk • contribs) 15:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Jean-Marc: If I understand you correctly, you submitted an article that was not in English to the English Wikipedia. All of the articles in the English Wikipedia are in English. However, there are volunteers who speak both English and French, and you may be able to interest one of them in translating an article. To find out how, read Wikipedia:Translation. However, because these are other volunteer editors like you, there may be a long wait because there are always more articles needing to be translated than there are willing minds to do the work. If you have the ability and time to do the translation, please do it yourself. If the translation isn't perfect, others who read it will make corrections.

I would like suggest that you also visit the Teahouse, which is a great place to have questions like this one answered. Asking one editor might not work if that person happens to be busy or away. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References for Tucker Hollingsworth

Anne Delong -- Thanks for the reference cleanup. In support of FoCuSandLeArN's comments I added two more independent curatorial essays. Do you think that's enough and that they're uploaded correctly? My first article on Wiki and I'm definitely looking forward to contributing more once I get a sense of code down. Thanks again for your help. Plett bay (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Plett bay:

I took another look at your submission and I noticed that you had some citations that weren't showing up because there was no "reflist" template, so I added one for you. I don't know anything about curatorial essays. Are they published somewhere? in an exhibition pamphlet perhaps? I will not be able to review your article right now (writing a 200 page syllabus), but there are many other reviewers looking at the Articles for Creation submissions. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Anne --

I looked up the curatorial essay -- they were published in exhibition catalogues and one of them will be published in Barrow Street's upcoming issue, edited by Peter Covino (University of Rhode Island).

Thanks for the help -- I'm going to work on submitting another article about camera "noise" -- my interest! 95.233.224.39 (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

many thanks . . .

I didn't even know you were editing my article (Lee H. Letts, sculptor) because I am still learning how to navigate Wikipedia---I thought little elves were making the improvements ;-) Thank you so much for your help! Marion Simons (talk) 03:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)Marion Simons[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Anne Delong. You have new messages at Huon's talk page.
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Editing Chisenhale Gallery article

Dear Anne Delong, thank you very much for your comments. Additional references will be added to the draft article as you suggest. With many thanks, potato67--Potato67 (talk) 13:13, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heads-up

Just discovered this bot, which I thought you might be interested in. Dunno why I noticed the bot just now; maybe it wasn't active before... FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, FoCuSandLeArN. Is this currently being used? I have never seen a message like that on any of the talk pages where I have myself left similar messages.

My problem with using a bot for this job is that there are too many different ways that a person could have added references and I feel that human judgement or serious AI is needed to determine if an article is really unreferenced. Someone could just write "I found an article about this in Scientific American called The Amazing Life of the Snail, in Volume 22, Issue 6". How would a bot find that? Nevertheless, in manual mode it might save time, since it may be quicker to tell the bot to send an e-mail than to write one yourself. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen about 3 of these messages today, so it seems to be working to some extent. I believe it detects whether users added ref tags. If they didn't, it leaves a thorough explanation on how to place them on their talk pages (and it's highlighted in green, so they can't miss it). FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Undue weight banner at Regina Martínez Pérez's article

Hi Anne, you added an undue weight banner at Regina Martínez Pérez but no specific concerns were left in the related Talk page. Can you explain at Talk:Regina Martínez Pérez#What undue weight?, please? I'm willing to improve that page and your indications will be useful. Thank you!--QuimGil (talk) 17:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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