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Editing Heading/title[edit]

Someone created a wiki page for me a while back (decades) with the title 'name (film maker)'. I am working much more in other areas (theatre) now. How can I delete/change the 'filmmaker'? (I'm new to this and decided to clean up/update the page.) Quebec Scot (talk) 14:27, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Quebec Scot I note that essentially the only article you have ever edited is Michael Mackenzie (filmmaker) so I assume this is what you mean by "a wiki page for me". If you read WP:OWN you will soon realise this doesn't belong to you and is in fact Wikipedia's article about you not your page because Wikipedia is not social media. By policy, you should not be editing that article at all since you have an obvious conflict of interest. Instead, if you think that there are changes that are well-sourced, you should make suggestions via an {{edit request}} on its Talk Page. One of these requests could be to move the article to a new title. However, the main purpose of the bracketed part of the title is to distinguish you from other Michael Mackenzies, not to give a full account of all the things you may have done in your career. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. I shall refrain from editing. Quebec Scot (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pinging Theroadislong who has been working on the article and may not be aware of the COI. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Michael,
In view of all this perhaps it's best simply to remove the 'Michael Mackenzie (filmmaker) wiki page. I'm not sure why the page was started, I'm pretty sure I don't make the 'notable' standard and updating seems complicated. I realise the process might be complicated. Have you any advice?
Quebec Scot. Quebec Scot (talk) 16:23, 28 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Quebec Scot, the deletion process is indeed a bit complicated, especially for someone unfamiliar with it and with Wikipedia's policies in general. If this is something you wish to pursue, reading Wikipedia:Deletion policy is the place to start. There will be a lot to take in. (talk) 15:23, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. I'm pretty busy so the prospect of proceeding is a little intimidating. Might I tap you for info if/when I go ahead? Quebec Scot (talk) 15:27, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Quebec Scot, the deletion process isn't something I personally have much experience with, but others here at the Teahouse probably do. If you make a new post here when you have further questions, you'll probably get the answers you need (or at least be pointed to where you can get the answers). (talk) 15:50, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Quebec Scot (talk) 15:51, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Quebec Scot Wow, someone saying they don't meet the notability criteria. Usually we get the opposite, from people who are extremely not notable. David10244 (talk) 10:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi David10244 and thanks for picking up on my dilemma. So viz. the page in question it seems there's two options. 1) delete the page or 2) clean it up so it meets Wiki standards. It seems 1 is pretty complicated. 2 would seem to require pairing it back to a minimum with just minimal/legit links. What that requires is unclear to me (e.g. is IMDB a legit link?). Any suggestions? Quebec Scot (talk) 22:42, 30 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Quebec Scot Although the subject of an article has very little say in its content, and generally cannot get it deleted if the subject is clearly notable, I have sometimes seen requests like yours, here, resulting in an admin agreeing with you and deleting the article. I gave no idea if that will happen here or not. Now that you have given your opinion that you are not notable, there's not much else that you can do (as far as I know). Maybe an(other) admin will see this and agree. Good luck. David10244 (talk) 08:10, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To answer your last question - IMDb is not legit in the sense that it is not a reliable source by our standards (see WP:IMDB). (talk) 15:01, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not sure how to get around the "Could not determine if this image is suitable" error.[edit]

Hi all,

First time editor here, so forgive me if this is a silly question.

I am trying to improve the page for the NSWRFS by adding the missing images of epaulette insignias that correspond with the different ranks. There are already about 5 or 6 images of different epaulettes, with about 9 or so missing.

I have some decent quality graphics of the missing ranks insignias that would fill out the table nicely, but I am unable to upload them because of a "We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons" error.

The NSWRFS is a state government firefighting agency, and I see no reason as to why there would be an issue with uploading these images. I understand that the error also says to only upload photographs that you have taken yourself, but I could name many articles that use digitally-made renders no worries.

I'm sure there must be something obvious I'm missing, please help me out.


NotConga (talk) 05:20, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NotConga: Did you create the images you are trying to upload? If not, what source did you get them from? It sounds to me like there was a problem with the information you provided about the images, leading to that error message. Wikimedia Commons can host images that are public domain, or released by the copyright holder under an acceptable free license. What is the copyright status of these images? Somebody created them, after all, and that person owns the copyright regardless of whether the object portrayed is not copyrighted. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:34, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, NotConga. I suppose that you must be talking about New South Wales Rural Fire Service. Please give the complete name of an article that you want to discuss. The issue probably relates to copyright. Very simple designs are not subject to copyright protection. More complex designs involving greater creativity are subject to copyright protection. So, you need to find out whether or not the New South Wales Rural Fire Service retains copyright to their original designs, or whether they release the images into the public domain. In the United States where I live, the US federal government releases every photo and image created by their own employees while on the job into the public domain. On the other hand, many state and local government agencies retain copyright. So, you need to check with that agency. Cullen328 (talk) 05:48, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
NotConga, you have now uploaded copyrighted images to Wikimedia Commons including a copyright symbol. This is completely wrong. Copyrighted content is not allowed on Wikimedia Commons in any way, shape or form. You do not have the authority to freely license copyrighted work. This is a legal issue. Please correct your errors. Cullen328 (talk) 06:40, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Cullen328 Hey mate, did a bit of googling and the such, and this says the content licensed under CCA 4.0 along with a statement to use as attribution, which I used and attached to the images. I made the changes and went to a make a cuppa, which is why I didn't reply for a while, my bad.
Not quite sure what the issue here is, especially considering there's already six(6) uploaded images depicting other various rank insignias. I'm not the most knowledgeable about the specifics of copyright, just trying to improve an article. Please let me know if I've missed a step or something else obvious, genuinely do just want to help.
Cheers NotConga (talk) 06:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
NotConga, that page you linked to specifically excludes the State's Coat of Arms and any other symbols, logos or trademarks of the State of NSW or any Department or agency of the State (unless incidentally reproduced in using an unaltered document under the Creative Commons licence) from Creative Commons licensing. You cannot upload any such excluded symbols to Wikimedia Commons. Cullen328 (talk) 07:08, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yeah righto, my bad then. Just a bit confused now about how the person who uploaded the other six reference images got away with it. Should they be removed? Additionally, is there a way to circumvent this issue? If I take a physical photo of the epaulettes or recreate them in photoshop, would that still be subject to the same restrictions?
Also, if the coat of arms is and logo of the organisation is not licensed under Creative Commons, how can it be displayed on its page the way it is? This is all quite confusing, and to be honest, is starting to seem like a great waste of my time. NotConga (talk) 07:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
NotConga, of the other six images, five of them are exceptionally simple designs of basic geometric shapes and text in a common font. Such images are not protected by copyright. The sixth has a crown that was probably first published over 95 years ago and would be in the public domain. As for the logo at the beginning of the article, a low resolution version is permitted for identification purposes under our policy on use of non-free images. See WP:LOGO for more information. Cullen328 (talk) 07:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cullen328, I have liaised with with New South Wales Rural Fire Service communications, and they have approved the usage of the insignia for the purpose of public information via Wikipedia.
I do not want anymore trouble with this matter, so is there anyone I require to show proof to in order to have this approved?
Cheers NotConga (talk) 02:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
NotConga, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Please also note that the NSWRFS cannot limit the usage to the purpose of public information via Wikipedia., Freely licensed material can be used by anyone for any purpose whatsoever. Cullen328 (talk) 02:47, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cullen328, thanks for the link mate, just a bit confused about which part of the article relates to my problem. Please forgive my ignorance, I have never been very literate in legal-ese. For reference: I am trying to donate images that have contain copyrighted materials but that have been cleared for use on this site via email. NotConga (talk) 10:14, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, everyone, RFS states The NSW Rural Fire Service supports and encourages the reuse of its publicly funded information, and endorses the use of the Australian Governments [sic] Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL). … All NSW Rural Fire Service material on this website is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 licence, except as noted below. [1] If the images appear on the website, then we're probably ok. I'm not familiar with the pocketbook app (e.g. mentioned at this file description ) Publications other than the website could have different licensing. The seal with the burning tree design does appear on the site: does that mean derived designs, like an epaulette that bears the burning tree, would be ok? @NotConga, Cullen328, Anachronist. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 07:34, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, Pelagic. Did you read further down on that page where it says that it specifically excludes the State's Coat of Arms and any other symbols, logos or trademarks of the State of NSW or any Department or agency of the State? You can't just read the first paragraph or two. Cullen328 (talk) 08:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

season 2 will be filmed in Romania ?[edit]

the filming of season 2 will take place in Romania ?? EduarddRichardd (talk) 04:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@EduarddRichardd For these types of questions, you should visit WP:Reference Desk. RoostTC(please ping me when replying) 04:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the filming of wednesday season 2 will take place in Romania ?? EduarddRichardd (talk) 04:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia isn't a place for asking questions about something that isn't related to Wikipedia, please use ██ Dentsinhere43 is a new Wikipedian. 05:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@EduarddRichardd and Dentsinhere43: WP:Reference Desk is exactly for asking questions about something that isn't related to Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wednesday (TV series)#Future says the producers are open to the possibility of a future series. No doubt when a Season 2 is reported in reliable media, the article will be updated. But we don't have a crystal ball, @EduarddRichardd. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 07:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But, yeah, Reference Desk is the preferred venue for this kind of Q&A. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 07:53, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quinton Reviews[edit]

Hello, I would like to be credited as the person that made the Quinton Reviews page as I've made it first and it was rekindled by somebody else. I did a good job on the original version and it's unfair how that person is credited, but mine, which I've worked hard on and risked getting blocked from editing twice for not doing "right", is just thrown out the window. I'm not being rude, I am just asking if I can be credited. Thank you.

-Arthur Jump Drjump! (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Drjump!, welcome to the Teahouse. Where are you asking to be credited? The page creation history cannot be changed, and there is no place in articles themselves or on their talk pages for crediting a creator. You can take credit for the article on your own user page if you wish. (talk) 16:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can you leave the parentheses I put in the edit permanently? Drjump! (talk) 16:35, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you mean this [2], no, that's not how it's done on this site. Like 199 said, if you want to mention that you started Quinton Reviews first on your userpage, that's fine. Click the redlink in your signature, write and publish. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just remember that no one owns a page. Club On a Sub 20 (talk) 16:15, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This [3] is probably the closest to "credit" we have. This [4] wasn't sufficient per WP:NPERSON and WP:BLP. Next time, more work on the kind of sources WP finds acceptable! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have credited myself, just keep it there. Thank you. Drjump! (talk) 16:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you keep doing stuff like this, you may be blocked again. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Drjump! You shouldn't give orders to other editors, like "just keep it there". These are experienced editors, and they are well aware of Wikipedia policy... David10244 (talk) 08:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The article Quinton Reviews isn't great. It purports to be about a YouTube channel but is mostly about its owner. If you edited it to be about its purported subject instead of about Hoover, the credit for that would be clearly yours. Maproom (talk) 18:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Returning confused user[edit]

I just came back a year. What happened to the fun box I used to know and love? (as opposed to looking like something else I have mixed feelings about...) You know, the one with a huge plethora of buttons that all seem to have gone missing...

I hope I'm asking in the right place...

DarklitShadow (talk) 21:07, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DarklitShadow, you've given links to Wikipedia's article on a 15th-century English statesman, and to a Microsoft article about Microsoft Office. I, at least, have no idea what you're asking about. This is a place for inexperienced Wikipedia editors to ask for help with editing Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 21:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The first shows my last edit from before I took a break close to the end of 2021. I'm referring to the the update for the box I just typed this reply inside of... DarklitShadow (talk) 21:23, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@DarklitShadow, are you referring to the Visual editor? Twinkle? The reply tool? (talk) 21:27, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The reply too and the buttons above I think... DarklitShadow (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That was rolled out last year, @DarklitShadow, at about the time you left on your break. The old-school way of editing conversations still works, if you prefer it. I'm not sure what else you could be referring to - did you have any custom discussion features installed on your account? (talk) 21:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The last time I edited on here, I remember it looking like this [5] DarklitShadow (talk) 21:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That looks like an older version of the default Vector skin, @DarklitShadow. It seems to have slightly different icons and colors than the screen I get when I click "Edit", but mostly the same buttons - have you clicked Advanced (or Special Characters/Help/Cite) to get the extra options? (talk) 22:12, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes. DarklitShadow (talk) 22:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you referring to the edit window specifically? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 22:42, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, DarklitShadow! I agree with 199.208, it looks like the normal "2010" WikiEditor, but with different older? custom? icons. Check that you have "Editing mode: always give me the source editor" at Preferences – Editing, and "Vector legacy (2010)" at Preferences – Appearance. But that won't get you the coloured icons, only the black ones. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 08:33, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Neutral editors[edit]

Requesting help with editing the /e/OS page especially the Reception and Controversies sections. At present, it is a compilation of cherry-picked comments and primary sources from blogs. Biased and one-sided views that are not exactly something that should be allowed on Wikipedia. An RFC by @Newslinger did not move ahead with the cleanup. As an employee of /e/OS, I am unable to make the changes myself. Would be great if some neutral editors would help with the edits and clean up, or point me in the direction where such help can be requested.- Mnair69 (talk) 22:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Teahouse isn't really the place to ask something like this. Please propose the changes you want to be made on the talk page of the relevant article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 22:45, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
and if said talk page isn't active enough, you reach out to relevant WikiProjects (they are listed at the top of an article's talk page). DecafPotato (talk) 01:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @DecafPotato & @Blaze Wolf - Mnair69 (talk) 07:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, Mnair69. I have an IT background and no knowledge of /e/. Just letting you know that I'll be looking at that article, deleting anything from unreliable sources (in my opinion), and removing anything unsourced. I anticipate a very much shorter article. Cheers. -- Doktor Züm (talk) 10:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @Doktor Züm for helping out. Mnair69 (talk) 22:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My sandbox :)[edit]

Hi, how can i find someone to review my sandbox? The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@the power is there at your command: User:The Power is There at Your Command/sandbox only has one reference. you need at least two or three independent, reliable sources that cover the subject significantly. 晚安lettherebedarklight 05:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ill add them in the future, i cant at the moment. dont worry, i wont eit the actual article until i get the sources. thanks. The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 05:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • edit
The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 05:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The Power is There at Your Command, you're approaching this exactly backwards. An acceptable article cannot be based on "what you know", it has to be mostly a summary of information from published sources that are Reliable and are independent of the subject, and the information has to be cited to those sources so as to make it verifiable by readers. Finding all the necessary sources to verify everything you've already written will likely be difficult-to-impossible, just as (to borrow an often-used analogy) you can't first build a house and only afterwards insert good foundations under it. (OK, there's Winchester Cathedral, but that needed heroic efforts — "Don't forget the Diver. Blblblblblbl!")
What you should do to save yourself a great deal of possibly wasted effort is to put what you've already written to one side, find some information in reliable sources, and start building your draft only using summaries of that information. As you progress, you can start shaping the draft in the way you prefer by rearranging the already-cited information, and looking for further good sources to add to the mix.
Yes, it will take longer before the outlines of the article you envisage begin to appear, but in the long run it will be far more likely to be approved when reviewed. There is no hurry, Wikipedia has no deadlines. Also, sorry to learn that you're unwell: take it easy and don't worry about any of this until you're better. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 06:41, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
176 is right. See WP:BACKWARD.   Maproom (talk) 08:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
no i had a source, but i didnt bookmark it. i havent went back and looked for it yet. The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 20:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Archiving a talk page[edit]

Can anyone help me archive my talk page or teach me how to do it? Thanks!`~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 03:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

HelpingWorld, Help:Archiving a talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 06:31, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


can someone collaborate with me to in this page Chief Ministership of N. T. Rama Rao. I think this is one such article that is having a scope of becoming GA if we can make the content somewhat more neutral and change the writing style with good grammer (most important). And I am trying my best to bring in more citations. Looking forward for interested editors. 456legend(talk) 12:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why does this article exist if N. T. Rama Rao also exists, and covers both his film and political career? David notMD (talk) 13:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
N. T. Rama Rao is only having the content of his film and political career but Chief Ministership of N. T. Rama Rao is covering the things done during his tenure as Chief Minister which is not part of the coverages in political life.
This page was already nominated for deletion long back as per the history I observed but the consensus reached was this what I now said. And this is in line to the Premiership of Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Premiership of Narendra Modi. 456legend(talk) 13:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Understood. I hope you find a collaborator. David notMD (talk) 13:50, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My wikipedia page not found[edit]

Hi wikipedia team, I am not sure that I am at the right place. It was so proud to have my wikipedia page here. For the last year there is my Wikipedia page named Jino Kunnumpurath and I do not know who created it. but now it is not found, I have contacted many colleagues who have wikipedia page about this. and they said the same that they do not know that who created their articles. and some of them told me that wikipedia team create articles it self. I am so thankful to you all to create my article. Now I cannot find it on google and even in Wikipedia. What happened ? I have searched in google and youtube for the solutions and I came to know that there is an option to request undeletion. but I cannot raise a request because it is showing that only wikipedia's registered users can only request for it. Somebody please help me to recover my page? Jino Kunnumpurath.

This is so confusing and I am not sure about all these things. I came here because I found that this is a way to contact Wikipedia team, if this is not the way. please guide me how can I do it. Thank you.

Regards Jino Kunnumpurath Jinokunnumpurathofficial (talk) 13:49, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is possible that an article existed but was then nominated and processed for Speedy deletion (see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion). A Teahouse host who is also an Administrator may be able to confirm this. David notMD (talk) 13:56, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not under this user name. No article or page was deleted. Filters did not stop any posting from this account as of this writing. Maybe user has written under another name? -- Alexf(talk) 14:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Was created by sock. log 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 14:57, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jinokunnumpurathofficial, the post above means that the article was created by someone violating Wikipedia's rules (see WP:SOCKPUPPET). They were blocked and their work was deleted. A request for undeletion may be denied, but you can still try making such a request at WP:UNDELETE. Please see WP:COI if you intend to do any writing about yourself or related subjects on Wikipedia. (talk) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So, the article cannot be restored ? :( Jinokunnumpurathofficial (talk) 08:53, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please help me on this. I am not experienced. I got little bit idea Jinokunnumpurathofficial (talk) 08:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello Jino Kunnumpurath, and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place for new or inexperienced editors to ask for help, so it is the right place for you to come and ask. The "Wikipedia team" that you refer to is thousands and thousands of volunteer editors - including you and me - who work on what they choose when they choose. With few exceptions, anybody may create or work on any article - but editors are discouraged from working on articles about themselves or about subjects they are closely involved with - which is why the articles about you and your colleagues were created by people you didn't know.
Unfortunately, some editors are irresponsible and break Wikipedia's rules: the editor who created the article about you was one such, and so the article was deleted. As I am not an admin, I can't look at the deleted article, and see what its quality was. As others have said, it is possible that an admin would restore the article, though it will probably need some work to bring it up to standard, and ideally somebody unconneced with you should do that work.
Please understand that, though you were "proud to have [your] Wikipedia page", Wikipedia's articles are not for the benefit of their subject. If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then we want there to be an article about you (though it will not be your article, or for your benefit, except incidentally). If you do not meet these criteria (most of us don't) then there cannot be an article about you.
A point about your user name: while I believe that the name you have chosen, "Jinokunnumpurathofficial" is acceptable under Wikipedia's rules, please understand that "official" has absolutely no standing in Wikipedia. As I said, (almost) anybody can edit an article, whether they use their real name (as I do), a made-up name (as many editors do), or choose not to create an account at all, and edit without being logged in (so they will be identified by a number).
On the other hand, all information in a Wikipedia article should come from a reliable published source: personal knowledge or recollection is not accepted unless it has also been reliably published, whether it comes from the subject or anywhere else. Therefore whether your account is or isn't genuinely used by Jino Kunnumpurath is irrelevant (except for the question of editing with a conflict of interest), and again "official" means nothing to Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for this detailed explanation. So I got something about how wiki works. I chose this because jinokunnumpurath username was not available. Anyway could you please help to get the article back. Jinokunnumpurathofficial (talk) 08:56, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The user name User:Jinokunnumpurath is not in use. And you were told earlier in this thread how to request undeletion of the article. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:04, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
yes, I requested an undelete option as an editor suggested above. any help from your side. Jinokunnumpurathofficial (talk) 13:49, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article Help with Notability of the Person in the article[edit]

I've attached lots of links to talk page of the article to get support with and as well I noticed an article was deleted a long back with the same title due to notability. Article: Draft talk:Annamalai Kuppuswamy Kindly Help. SanoSirius (talk) 14:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As explained in that Talk Page, YouTube is not a reliable source, and most videos have copyright issues. See: WP:YOUTUBE. -- Alexf(talk) 15:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(that's just linking to YouTube videos, WP:RSPYT explains why it is an unreliable source) DecafPotato (talk) 15:35, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
SanoSirius, it is possible that some of those YouTube links are to official channels of reliable publishers, in which case they may be used as sources. But since you haven't given any useful information about them, we can't tell without watching them, and I (for one) have no interest in doing so. If you believe that some of the links meet the golden rule, then give us the information we need to decide whether they are worth watching: author, title, publisher, date. If the publisher is a reliable source, and the author and publisher are unconnected with Kuppuswamy, then they might contribute to notability, otherwise they are a waste of everybody's time for the purposes of a Wikipedia article. ColinFine (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To add on to/clarify what everyone else has said, we generally can only cite YouTube videos as sources if (1) the video in question is produced by an outlet we would ordinarily consider to be a credible source and (2) it is uploaded to that outlet's verified YouTube channel. Videos that do not meet both these prongs are useless as sources (no editorial oversight at best and copyright violation at worst). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 15:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This subject has a history of AfD, re-creation, salting and submission under various titles. May not be notable, I suppose. Quisqualis (talk) 03:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Brian Polcyn page[edit]


I was looking around to see what info you had listed on Brian Polcyn. I found a place holder page via the,_Smoking_and_Curing which i found through the co-author of the charcuterie book. because i have contact directly with Brian Polcyn and Dylan Polcyn his handler My question is this, how can I pass this information to you to get this page edited

regards, Michael Tesser MTspiel (talk) 14:53, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MTspiel, see WP:COI for information on dealing with a conflict of interest. You may start the article yourself, but it is highly discouraged. Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 15:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the quick reply,
I definitely dont want to cause a COI. Just looking to see who is willing to add information to a blank page that currently exists MTspiel (talk) 15:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MTspiel, no article currently exists on Brian Polcyn. Someone would have to write one. This can be rather time-consuming, especially if WP:reliable sources with significant coverage are difficult to find (see Help:Your first article for an idea of what is involved in creating an article). You can request that an article be written at WP:Requested articles, but the backlog there is huge and nothing may ever come of the request. (talk) 15:40, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, Michael, I found a profile/bio at but we'd probably need more source material for a decent encyclopaedia article. Brian has a VIAF ID (4339627), so he does qualify for a Wikidata item: Brian Polcyn (Q115569780). ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 09:01, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
co-authored books
Detroit Free Press Article
Podcast featuring Brian Polcyn and michael Ruhlman
Brian Polcyn former restaurants
Pike Street Restaurant (1987)
Chimayo (1990)
Acadia (1993)
Five Lakes Grill – Cinco Lagos (1995)
Forest Grill (2008)
Brian Polcyn featured on Anthony Bourdain No Reservations, Season 6 Episode 15. U.S. Heartlands MTspiel (talk) 20:07, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
MTspiel, the Detroit Free Press article is an excellent source. Cullen328 (talk) 20:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I tried refill it doesn't work properly[edit]

I tried to refill link on Draft:List of foreign Frauen-Bundesliga players it doesn't seem to refill links from the Bayer 04 Leverkusen and Bayern Munich websites properly and the link ends up malformed why is that? Dwanyewest (talk) 15:03, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Refill doesn't pick up links well. You will have to use the original links. If the original links are 404-ed, then you will have to manually key in the {{Cite web}} template and parameters for the bare references. – robertsky (talk) 16:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question about Arbitration Committee elections[edit]

On my arbitration vote page I was only shown 12 candidates, how are these candidates selected? Is there a user nomination period I missed or are these candidates personally picked in being able to run for elections? Bobisland (talk) 15:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Bobisland - the candidates are self-nominated. Announcements go out in various places when nominations are opened, see for instance here. (talk) 15:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So the votes are done by users and the users with the most votes become the nominations? Is there a way to see how many votes each nominee got? Bobisland (talk) 15:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bobisland, no - there is no voting until the current stage in the process, which is the election. Someone who wants to run just has to make a statement to that effect and answer questions from other editors. (talk) 15:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Citing sources[edit]

I recently added to an entry and added a source by following an example on the same page only to have it rejected - what is the correct format for citing a source please? Springrash (talk) 16:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Um, that's not what happened. Springrash. You added unreferenced contentious material to Jimmy Pursey twice - which is a serious breach of the policy on biography of living persons, and JezGrove rightly reverted. Then you tried to add it again with a reference, but (as the big red message said) you omitted the closing </ref> and so the reference was malformed. You then removed it yourself - which was a good move, if you didn't understand what was wrong. ColinFine (talk) 16:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You also got the parameter name url= wrong in the citation (you had ur=) and the URL itself seems to be faulty. ColinFine (talk) 16:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Additionally, you can use the visual editor to avoid these problems—its toolbar has a "cite" button that does the parameters automatically, you just need to fill in the information. DecafPotato (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The 2017 Wikitext Editor would be better imo since it still has the cite button but doesn't have the issues of the visual editor. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Greetings @Springrash:! If you are referring to Jimmy Pursey, it looks like your format was correct, but it looks like perhaps the website you cited doesn't qualify as a reliable source? - UtherSRG (talk) 16:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Springrash, Wikipedia does not contain everything about a subject, and you should take a look here, as a caution is not a criminal conviction. Happy editing. Quisqualis (talk) 02:35, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@UtherSRG I also noted that the closing </ref> was missing, but the edit would have been reverted anyway. Quisqualis (talk) 02:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fair, though if the source were decent, then the formatting error would have been fixed instead of the cite removed. UtherSRG (talk) 02:51, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I NEED HELP ON WHAT TO PUT ON MY PAGES THAT I CREATE Ducklan (talk) 16:22, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ducklan: Hello Ducklan! First, please dont TYPE IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS, as it can be seen as shouting. Second, I'm confused as to what you mean. Your only page creation so far is your sandbox. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am working on creating pages and i was wondering if you had any advise as i don't quite know how to fill them.
p.s sorry for the all caps i didnt realize it was on till after : Ducklan (talk) 16:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ducklan: That's alright, I've made that mistake before. The answer to your question would depend on what you want to write an article about. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ducklan: WP:YFA is a helpful page to read on how to make your first article. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:33, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thank you ;) Ducklan (talk) 16:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, Ducklan, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia. In my experience, new editors who try to create new articles right from the beginning have a miserable, frustrating time. It's like coming out of your first violin lesson and arranging to give a public recital: you can't do it, and probably won't even understand what people are telling you you're doing wrong.
I always advise new editors to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works by making small improvements to some of our six million existing articles - most of them need it (and that's not an exaggeration). I remember when I was a new editor, I desperately wanted to find a new article to create, to "make my mark". Now I know that that's not the only, or the best way to improve Wikipedia. If you find a few articles that interest you, and you learn to research and make improvements to them , you will probably be adding thousands of times more value to Wikipedia than if you try to create a new article before you are ready.
When you are ready to try it, please start by reading your first article. ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It may appear as a nuance, but encyclopedias have articles, whereas social media has pages. Wikipedia's articles are not owned (no "MY"). Once created - or even while in draft stage - anyone can edit as long as content is properly referenced. David notMD (talk) 17:43, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
oh sorry i called it my because i was in the process of creating it. thank you for the correction Ducklan (talk) 17:45, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
References, references, references! If you cannot find valid references about a topic, then you will not succeed in creating an article. If about a person, what the person writes about themself, or said in interviews or press releases, are not valid references. David notMD (talk) 17:52, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dystopia Daily[edit]

Can you review my article? Drjump! (talk) 17:02, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Drjump!: Hello Drjump! You don't have an AFC template on your draft, however if you were to submit it then it would be declined since you have not shown that the subject is notable. Every single one of your sources in your draft (Draft:Dystopia Daily) is a link to a Youtube video. Youtube can never be used to establish notability as it is user generated (see WP:RSPYT for more details). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Everyone has a free pass to go on and edit certain revisions then, I did the best I could. Drjump! (talk) 17:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Blaze Wolf: Saying Youtube can never be used to establish notability is incorrect. As it says in the summary column:

Content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organization, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability.

Emphasis mine. An editor is going to find themselves incredibly limited to using videos from official verified accounts, and Wikipedia tends to lean towards text sources anyway. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Be that as it may, using only YT as sources is certainly insufficient. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:03, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hence why I said using YT is incredibly limited. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Tenryuu: I'm not sure I follow? That simply just states that videos from verified official accounts are reliable. Doesn't say anything about Youtube being able to be used to establish notability. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My take on it is that notability is derived from a subject being discussed in multiple independent reliable sources. The statement that a YouTube video can, under very particular circumstances, be a reliable source means you can use appropriate YouTube videos as some of your multiple independent reliable sources, to demonstrate notability just as much as to provide subject-matter for the article. Basically if The Times says something is important, it is, whether they say it with proper editorial oversight on YouTube or in print. But if Joe Bloggs says it's important, whether he does it on YouTube or in a self-published book, it's equally irrelevant. (But the vast majority of YouTube is self-published and not reliable in the Wikipedia sense.) Elemimele (talk) 23:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Blaze Wolf, @Drjump! Small point, but at the moment, the refs don't ALL point at YouTube; one is from Reddit, and one is from Twitter. Of course, those are equally useless. David10244 (talk) 09:05, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dystopia Daily with Daniel Howell[edit]

Hello, my Dystopia Daily article has been declined. I will leave it up for editing so people can revise it into something better. Draft:Dystopia Daily

I feel like this article should be published and used for certain purposes as to give Howell's show a personalized article for people to look at. Drjump! (talk) 18:15, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Drjump!, there's no need to start a new section - I've combined the two. (talk) 18:17, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What do you mean? Also don't combine the Daniel Howell article with that one. Just edit revisons. Drjump! (talk) 18:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The IP means the sections here on The Teahouse - UtherSRG (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Drjump!, "[so] as to give Howell's show a personalized article for people to look at" sounds a bit like promotional intent, which isn't what Wikipedia is for. "Getting the word out" in order to make the show notable is like putting the horse in front of the cart. Normally, subject notability must precede the publication of an article. We already have an article on the YouTuber Daniel Howell, but it doesn't mention the show your draft describes. You could add on to that article.
PS: Have the Guardian or BBC, Independent, Times, etc. written in depth about the show? Those sources would be reliable sources. Quisqualis (talk) 02:12, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, nobody has written in depth about DDWDH, I'm probably going to delete it and redo (and rename it) as Dystopia Daily with Daniel Howell instead of just Dystopia Daily. But also, no articles were written by bigger people. Drjump! (talk) 05:05, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No WP:N, no article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:03, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


could you please tell me the best thing to gain experience for a beginner i would love to boost my experience but i lack the knowledge of where to start Ducklan (talk) 17:47, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please consider taking a look at our introductory tutorial or reviewing contributing to Wikipedia to learn the basics about editing. Working on existing articles is a good way to learn our protocols and style conventions; see the Task Center for a range of articles that need your assistance and tasks you can help out with. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:50, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why aren't featured articles (semi-)protected?[edit]

I know this isn't the right place to ask (and I should know better) but why aren't featured articles (as in, the ones on the Main Page) protected for vandalism? I mean, they're sitting ducks, so wouldn't Wikipedia be its best interest to protect them for a little while (at least tomorrow until 00:00)?

Again, this is probably a perennial question, but I legitimately do not know. Explodicator7331 (talk) 18:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Explodicator7331, welcome to the Teahouse. It is indeed a perennial proposal - see Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Protect Today's Featured Article on the Main Page. (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Explodicator7331 (talk) 18:30, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There's a bot that had a trial to see how effective semi-protecting TFAs would be and what the effect would be. The trial finished and is currently waiting for an RFC to be started. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, Explodicator7331. One of the main reasons to show an article on the main page is to encourage new people to improve that article. Yes, there is a risk of vandalism but it is a long standing principle that we don't pre-emptively protect articles against hypothetical future vandalism. There are plenty of editors who revert main page vandalism and enough administrators to promptly protect main page articles that are subject to a wave of vandalism. Cullen328 (talk) 08:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I remember when Synapturanus danta was DYK - not even TFA, it was DYK!, it had multiple vandalistic edits in one day. I feel like some form of policy protecting things linked from the main page would be a good idea, but that it would also be opposed by the community as a whole and therefore is a non-starter. casualdejekyll 02:00, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As I said a bot has been tested for it and waiting on an RFA. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:23, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Describing files[edit]

Hi, I'm writing an article in a draft titled Draft:The Legend of Dark Witch: Chronicle 2D Act, and I'd like to describe the image on the left as the following: "Screenshot of Heaven's Garden in The Legend of Dark Witch: Chronicle 2D Act" I think it sounds a bit off, but what do you think? GooseTheGreat (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @GooseTheGreat, welcome to the Teahouse. I think that's too much information - since it's a (draft) article about the game, I don't think there's a need to specify in the caption that the image is from the game. You could simply title it "Screenshot of the Heaven's Garden area", or perhaps just "Heaven's Garden". (talk) 23:42, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the information. GooseTheGreat (talk) 00:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GooseTheGreat, you will want to make sure that the screenshot you intend to use is free of copyright, as Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons cannot use copyrighted material, except under certain very specific conditions. Commons:Help desk can guide you over the rough spots. Quisqualis (talk) 01:47, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the info as well. GooseTheGreat (talk) 02:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello. I have a article I have created and I want to get it approved and made into a page. I need help getting an image in, but go onto my page and you will see my sandbox link. You will see my page. Thanks a bunch! User:Robins bird talk 21:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: User:Robins bird/sandbox Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 22:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Robins bird@Sungodtemple, it appears that the scaly leg article represents another term for or manifestation of scaly foot. As it contains a lot of how-to information and not a lot of reliable medical sources, it might best be turned into a WP:redirect to the scaly foot article. Quisqualis (talk) 01:29, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Scaly leg has been an article since 2004 and is currently a redirect to Scaly foot. It would probably be better to improve the Scaly Foot article. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 08:58, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Need help with biased editing of a article about Battle Of benadir.[edit],_1542-1 Theguywholearnhistory (talk) 23:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Theguywholearnhistory, welcome to the Teahouse. That article is semi-protected due to disruption. Until you are autoconfirmed, you can make edit requests on the talk page, Talk:Battle of Benadir. Be very specific about the changes you want to make and provide reliable sources to back them up. (talk) 23:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jack Pop[edit]

Article has been made, is the Teahouse closed? Drjump! (talk) 01:40, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is no article in Wikipedia called Jack Pop, are you referring to Draft:Jack Pop?`~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 02:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Drjump!, please make sure everything in your draft is sourced in a reference to a reliable source. Quisqualis (talk) 03:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Teahouse never closes. It's all volunteers all the time. David notMD (talk) 04:41, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is a worldwide project, Drjump!. Teahouse hosts in California and British Columbia may be falling asleep when other hosts in the United Kingdom are waking up and hosts in Australia and New Zealand are deciding what to have for dinner. Those are just examples. People from all over the world participate when they want to. Cullen328 (talk) 08:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Signing up for Wikipedia, one of the best choices I've made so far. Drjump! (talk) 05:07, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Userbox regarding to Userbox on date of birth[edit]

Hi, I'm considering to add userboxes on my user page, but I believe telling the date of birth and the age in years months and days might seem uncomfortable to others including myself. Is there a way to add user boxes to just add a similar user box but just tell the age in just the year itself? Thanks. Ivan Milenin (talk) 02:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User current age, Try this I do not know if this will work but its the closest thing to it.`~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 05:08, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ivan Milenin: I do not believe {{user current age}} will work exactly in this scenario, because when one of the parameters is not specified, it will default to whatever that parameter has in the current date. (That means, if you only specify the year, it will take the month and day of the months from the date someone looks at the template, and as such might be a year off in some cases. To give an Example, if someone born on April 1st uses {{user current age|year=1980}} and looks at his userpage on January 1st 2022, the template will report "This user was born 1 January 1980 and is 42 years, 0 months and 0 days old"). I don't currently know if there is an elegant way to write a custom implementation based upon {{birth year and age}}, but I feel it might be possible. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New "The Flash" logo movie[edit]

Upload this image for the page of "The Flash (film) please. Link: (talk) 04:27, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is already a logo on The Flash (film). We do not normally pull logos from Facebook when there is an official website. And, as a matter of policy, we do not use high resolution versions of non-free logos or other images, for reasons related to copyright law. Cullen328 (talk) 05:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
IP has been blocked as a proxy, tho they were here in good faith. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:46, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help on my newly created articles[edit]

I'm new to this wiki and I used to edit in Bengali Wikipedia. I've so far translated two articles Abhik Anwar, and Hosne Ara Talukder in this wiki from the Bangla version, and I'm on the way to do more.

While I think Hosne Ara Talukder is mostly fine but might still need some touch. And help is much appreciated on Abhik Anwar. Please make any corrections if there's to be made. As I'm new there might be some errors. I'd appreciate help regarding those.

Thanks. Sourabhossianrabbi (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sourabhossianrabbi, make sure that your translations are accurate and the subjects meet the enwiki WP:GNG. Notability is different across different projects. The translation seems to be pretty on point so far Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 14:52, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


This is a statement not a question. To whomever that sent me a message telling me I tried to edit something; I did not. If I did it was in error. Believe it or not. Jdray9 (talk) 14:05, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is your only edit on Wikipedia, you might have seen a message whilst logged out which would not necessarily have applied to you? Theroadislong (talk) 14:15, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or perhaps other than English Wikipedia? David notMD (talk) 18:55, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nope ColinFine (talk) 01:17, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for help[edit]

how can I add template in source edit differ from visual edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by AfricPrudy II (talkcontribs) 14:57, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hi AfricPrudy II and welcome to the teahouse! you may add templates in source editor using the puzzle button in the top bar, which I believe would bring up the same graphical user interface as used in the visual editor. alternatively, you can always type the templates yourself, although that'll require famillarity with the template you're using (or the template documentstion in another tab). see A quick guide to templates for more. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 15:04, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to link ORCID Id with a few of my Wikimedia Commons photo contribution?[edit]

I want to link my ORCID Id with a few specific Wikimedia Commons image file that I contributed. Is there any option so that Wikimedia commons registers my ORCID Id? RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 16:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, RIT RAJARSHI, and welcome to the Teahouse. I have no idea of the answer, but I know that you will be likely to have more success asking at Commons. Try C:COM:Village pump. ColinFine (talk) 17:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Let's stop stupid sexist comments[edit]

Hello, I recently read the biography of one English woman singer. I was shocked to read the comment about the difference in age (9 years...) between her and her "younger" boyfriend/husband. There are so many men with women 20 years younger!! I think it's high time this sort of remarks/comments disappear from Wikipedia pages. Cheers, Cris (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please tell us which page you are referring to and it can be addressed. Theroadislong (talk) 18:19, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Vague threads like this help nobody; we're not psychic and don't innately know what article you're referring to. Details are important if you hope to get anything resembling a useful answer. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 18:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ Cris, many of the source materials used in writing Wikipedia's articles are older and/or inappropriately sexist. If an article is edited by a user who doesn't notice the sexism, that particular prejudice will find its way into Wikipedia. I recommend noting this deficiency on the talk pages of such articles, with a suggestion as to how you would rephrase the passage, and allow about 10 days before modifying the article's text yourself. Quisqualis (talk) 19:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There is a fundamental problem with older subjects where we may be forced to use older biographies and articles. The old sources will write with the social norms and moralities of their time. We cannot change what our sources say. In some cases, having a younger husband would have been seen as quite scandalous. We need to report factually how this affected the person's life, albeit without supporting a stupidly sexist viewpoint, but we might be stuck with a source that does support the stupidly sexist viewpoint because it was written at a time when this viewpoint was considered respectable and normal. All we can do is distance ourselves by choosing our wording: "According to X's biographer, Y, she destroyed her career and social chances by marrying an inappropriately young partner, and was obliged to spend the rest of her life living in a shoebox north of Sheffield". We don't even have the option of adding "a partner considered inappropriately young by the moral standards of her age", because we'd have to find a source to indicate what the moral standards of her age actually were, and even then, we are running the risk of building our own moral discussion (see WP:SYNTH) instead of merely reflecting what X's biographers genuinely said. It is hard to discuss moralities with which we do not agree, while remaining neutral and true to sourcing. It requires a very careful balancing act of wording.
But having said all the stuff above, which applies to historic figures, if you come across stupid bits of sexist trivia that aren't really a major part of someone's life, by all means trim them out of the article. Magazines love to put in these little bits, which have the feeling of two people having a gossip over an office coffee ("Oooh, and you should see her boyfriend! I mean, I shouldn't say, but have you looked at his ears... I mean, well..."). These are "human interest" additions, not necessarily relevant to someone's life and career. We're a nice boring encyclopaedia that's not obliged to try to appeal to the inner gossip. We can safely remain factual. Elemimele (talk) 10:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've been controller hacked can someone loop me back to 2016 november.[edit]

Ive been controller hacked would someone one please loop me back to november 2016 (talk) 19:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is this question about Wikipedia? If not, you may ask at the Reference desk, with additional details to enable them to understand your problem. Quisqualis (talk) 22:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The reset button is behind your left ear. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 06:49, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Someone changed the Brazil National Football Team to be inaccurate.[edit]

Where the list of biggest wins and losses as a team is located, under biggest losses it just says "None, Brazil is the best country." Instead of listing the 1920 6-0 Uruguay game and the 2014 7-1 Germany game. (talk) 20:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC) Well now the biggest loss section is just completely gone — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:47, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That was vandalism by a Brasil fan. The section in that information box is now correct as "Biggest defeat". Thank you for noticing. If you see another vandalism in any article, you may note it on the article's talk page so that someone may fix it. You are allowed to fix vandalism, but in this case it was a little bit tricky for a new editor to fix. Quisqualis (talk) 21:02, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding images under public domain[edit]

Hi! I am currently working on an article for my art history class and I'm trying upload images of art pieces that are under the public domain. I'm uploading them through the Upload Wizard option but it is asking me for the exact day, month and year the image was taken. What am I supposed to put on there if I am not sure of that information? Marieaburto (talk) 20:53, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Marieaburto. Even though an art piece is in the public domain, a photo or drawing of that piece of art may be copyrighted. You may want to read Wikipedia:Copyright, which provides links to other copyright articles. Best wishes on your article draft. Karenthewriter (talk) 21:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Marieaburto, if you don't know, you may put the year or even the century, if you know it. If you get an error message, you can contact the Commons:Help desk. Quiqualis (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, Marieaburto. Copyright law is complex. My understanding is that a photo of a two dimensional work of art such as a painting that is in the public domain cannot be copyrighted. On the other hand, a photo of a three dimensional work of public domain art such a sculpture can be copyrighted. This is because there is an element of creativity involved in selecting the angle, lighting the object properly, perhaps selecting a backdrop, and so on. You should be uploading public domain content to Wikimedia Commons. Cullen328 (talk) 22:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, Marieaburto! Hit the pencil button to change from calendar picker to free text. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 06:57, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Interpretation of topic ban[edit]

Hello Teahouse folks. Would a sanction of " topic banned from deletion discussions, broadly construed" mean that someone must not edit articles that are currently at Articles For Deletion? Thank you, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:26, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, MrsSnoozyTurtle. I suggest that you ask the administrator who imposed the topic ban. That person has a better understanding of the context. Cullen328 (talk) 22:31, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MrsSnoozyTurtle - in addition to what Cullen said, which I also believe is the best course of action, it's hard to verify what administrator imposed the topic ban or if it even exists due to the lack of easily accessible archives of your User Talk page. Archiving is super easy and I highly recommend it. casualdejekyll 22:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Multiple Sandboxes[edit]

Hello! Is there a way to get Multiple Sandboxes, without the pages being deleted? Thanks! Jimslim85 (talk) 23:06, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Jimslim85 simply create the title you want, beginning with User:Jimslim85/ enclose in double square brackets e.g User:Jimslim85/Sandbox2 and then click that link and it will say "To start a page called User:Jimslim85/Sandbox2, type in the box below. " follow the instructions - remembering to save it - Arjayay (talk) 23:11, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! Jimslim85 (talk) 23:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Jimslim85, your sandbox pages will not be deleted, as long as they are being used to improve the encyclopedia. Cullen328 (talk) 01:37, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jimslim85 - I note that the content of User:Jimslim85/sandbox appears to describe an alternate history. Per WP:FAKEARTICLE, such content cannot be hosted on Wikipedia, not even in your sandboxes. I suggest using some other service, like Miraheze. (Also, Jeremy Corbyn would never run for president. Neither would Pete Buttigieg have Donald Trump as his running mate. Your alternate history is not very realistic.) casualdejekyll 01:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actor (or Voice Actor) born "January 17, 1952" years active: "1967-present"[edit]

There was an actor or a voice actor with a Wikipedia page born "January 17, 1952," and his "years active" on it said "1967-present (1967–present)," but now I can't find the name of the actor, I thought I ask this question so that other Wikipedia admins would direct message me on here. Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 00:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

None of the entries for 1952 births in January 17 says it's an actor or voice actor. Are you sure you have the date right? (Of course the person may not have been added to the right category). ColinFine (talk) 00:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Alexkrzywicki1, It may be a long shot, but you could try asking this at the WP:Reference desk, entertainment section. Any other keywords you can think of, such as genre, the person's sex, geography, movies vs TV, animation vs live, type of character played, would all be helpful to those helpful people. Quisqualis (talk) 02:41, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Does wikipedia have a real discord? or is that made by fans? The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 05:40, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is an unofficial one, see Wikipedia:Discord. Official means of communication should be on-wiki or on IRC. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 05:44, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ok. good night. The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 06:20, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Changing my banking information on my Wiki account[edit]

Hello -- I have a new bank. How do I change that information for my wiki account? Harrywt (talk) 06:21, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Harrywt. Are you talking about donating to the Wikimedia Foundation? Your phrasing makes me slightly concerned because you said your wiki account. I don't really know much about them but there's scams out there where people will claim they can do things for you on Wikipedia if you pay them. For your sake, I hope that's not the case.
But if you're talking about donating to the WMF, I'd suggest emailing [email protected] on how to change your banking information. Surprisingly the FAQs don't cover this [6]. I'd also suggest looking into if you really want to donate, honestly. There's some threads at Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF) that are more critical about the fundraising campaigns. Ultimately it's your choice, though. Does this help at all? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 07:02, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Harrywt, your wiki editing account can optionally have an email address but we don't store your banking details. Recurring donations are managed separately, see ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 07:04, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ASSIST. WIKIPEDIA. with. the. sales. of RAYMOND. CHOW. art,drawings, prints. paintings.[edit]

CAN I. RAYMOND. CHOW. ARTIST. OF. 63 PLUS. YEARS. professional. artist assist. in. soe. art sale on. line 2 assist. WIKIPEDIA. of. which I am on, included. as. RAYMOND. CHOW. artist. description? (talk) 11:12, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. I am afraid I'm not sure what you are asking (and your very very unconventional use of full stops (periods) after almost every word makes it hard to decode). But it sounds as if you are asking if you can use Wikipedia sell your work. The answer is an absolute and resounding NO! Please see NOTPROMO. ColinFine (talk) 11:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This seems to be about Raymond Chow (artist). I note that its section "Commissions and collections" is completely unreferenced. -- Hoary (talk) 11:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Newby Queries[edit]

As you may well have gathered, I am very new to this. It is my intention to re-write the existing Wikipedia page about RAF Locking. I have sought t understanding the editing process and have a number of questions. Hopefully this is the right place to ask.

1. Having noted the need to cite every entry on the page, I am surprised that the item about the RAFLAA monument has no referencing. How could that be? It is not a problem, I will have a citation appropriate to this entry.

2. On the subject of citations, I shall be drawing heavily on the content of a book. I understand that each citation needs to list the page number. Is this strictly necessary given that the book has a very adequate index?

3. I expect to undertake editing over several sessions, probably on successive days. Can I simply save my work after each session? Does this save to sandbox? When I’m eventually ready, I presume I press “Publish”. Will this cause my work to become available to the public or will it now pass through a process of validation?

Any guidance would be most welcome. Thanks Stephen Pemberton Stevepem (talk) 11:21, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Stevepem Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you notice something that lacks a reference, and have one, please add it. As this is a volunteer project, things like that slip through the cracks often. Yes, page numbers should be provided for as complete a citation as possible. "Publish changes" should be interpreted to mean "save", it used to say that, but was changed to emphasize all edits are visible to the public. There is normally not a "validation" process(unless the article is Pending Changes protected). You are welcome to either add edits one at a time when you are able to make them, or you could do something like draft a large edit in your sandbox first. It's up to you. There are also ways to mark an article as under construction, or indicate a large edit is in process. 331dot (talk) 11:35, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello Stephen, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia. Thank you for wanting to improve the article RAF Locking. To answer your questions:
  1. . It is a policy that every claim in a Wikipedia article be verifiable from a reliable published source, but it is not policy that every statement must actually be cited. However, a lot of editors (including me) take the view that if you're going to put information in, you must have a source for it (otherwise you can't be confident that it is appropriately verifiable) so why not put it in? So those who review new articles and recent changes often require full referencing. In the past we were less careful about this, and there are many seriously underreferenced articles (though on a quick look, RAF Locking looks reasonably well referenced), but improving the referencing of an article. is always a welcome change.
  2. . It is strongly preferred to give the page, to assist a reader in checking a reference. You can use a named reference and the {{sfn}} template to avoid repeating the whole reference. See WP:REFB.
  3. . The best way to do this is to make incremental changes to the article, updating the public article as you go. If this won't work you can copy part or all of the article to your sandbox, work on it there (every change to anything in Wikipedia is public, which is why the "save changes" button is now called "publish changes"; but your sandbox won't be found by external searches, only by people who know to search inside Wikipedia, and the article won't be changed. Then when you are satisfied, you can copy your change back to the article.
A couple of caveats:
  1. Copying within Wikipedia is permitted, provided the source is acknowledged; so you should record the copying both before and after, normally in the edit summary: see copying within Wikipedia.
  2. If you will be working on your sandbox for more than a few hours, it would be worth putting the {{under construction}} template on the article, to warn other editors.
  3. If you are making substantial changes, it is probably a good idea to discuss them on the article's talk page first.
ColinFine (talk) 11:36, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agreed. One addition: the guideline is that it should be reasonably obvious what each citation supports (WP:CITEFOOT). In this article it's unlikely you'll be saying anything contentious where the citation needs to be very close indeed to the contentious statement, even attached to a particularly contentious word. You might have a short paragraph of text summarising information taken from within a few pages of a book. In this case it is sufficient to have a single inline citation for the paragraph rather than repeating near-identical citations sentence by sentence through the paragraph. I.e. you can say "The sun is the thing at the middle of the solar system. It's hot. It's big. It's round." and put a single citation at the end, rather than four individual references to successive pages of the same book. Of course if anyone reverts or complains that you're not supporting the information, you should then put in the individual citations because it's become contentious, but in reality so long as the reader can readily verify everything you've written, you should be okay. And I would recommend working on the actual article in situ rather than in a sandbox; it is generally helpful to make a lot of small changes rather than one enormous change, because then if anyone disagrees, they can discuss it with you edit-by-edit, and revert individual bits that they don't like, rather than having to deal with a massive fait accompli in one lump. Elemimele (talk) 11:56, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: RAF Locking.
You say: "It is my intention to re-write ..." then "I expect to undertake editing over several sessions, probably on successive days. Can I simply save my work after each session? Does this save to sandbox?" When I’m eventually ready, I presume I press “Publish”. Given that the article already exists and looks to be decent (if perhaps a little brief), then the general practice it not to re-write. Rather, do a series of small, self-contained edits, one detail at a time, making gradual improvements. And you can do them on the live article. But if you are unsure, then use your sandbox to practice those small edits. Make good use of the "show preview" button to check their effects before you save/publish them. Hope that helps. Feline Hymnic (talk) 13:36, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to create Extra Sandbox ?[edit]

Please I would like to know How to create Extra Sandbox ? Knpower23 (talk) 11:57, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Knpower23, click on User:Knpower23/Extra Sandbox, edit, "publish" (which just means "save, publicly"). -- Hoary (talk) 12:03, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Knpower23 You can iust change the "/sandbox" part of the urlto whatever you want(eg. sandbox2) and it would become another new sandbox RoostTC(please ping me when replying) 14:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proof of Fermat's little theorem.[edit]

Dear member, it's been a while since I visited this site.

I have written a proof of Fermat's theorem.

I am quit insecure.

It would please me if a mathematician reviews my proof and lets me know if my proof is valid and correct.

I'm grateful for any help I can get.

An answer on this page would be fine.

Yours Censirely yours Wim Coenen.

Wim Coenen (talk) 12:44, 4 December 2022 (UTC)'s_little_theorem Wim Coenen (talk) 12:43, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Proofs of Fermat's little theorem instead. Shantavira|feed me 13:01, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dear Shantavira,
I’m aware of the existence of the article in Wikipedia..
The existing proofs in this article differ from my proof, as my proof is a proof by mathematical induction.
I will not ad my proof to the proofs of Fermat’s little theorem, unless I'm absolutely sure my proof is valid and correct.
Hence my request to you to review my proof more closely.
Thanks in advance, Wim Coenen (talk) 14:45, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you are not confident in your proof, you could suggest it using the article's talk page. Most Teahouse editors are unlikely to be experts in that branch of mathematics, but editors who have that article and its talk page on their watchlist will hopefully have the relevant expertise. If you don't get a response there, you could try a relevant Wikipedia project. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:52, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I added an infobox to Quinton Reviews, I would like my *proper* credit now. Drjump! (talk) 13:02, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Wikipedia:Teahouse#Quinton_Reviews. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:13, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Drjump!: "proper credit" is not really a thing on Wikipedia; any edits you make to an article will be visible in the article history. --bonadea contributions talk 14:03, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Propose delete [Category:Radical theology][edit]

Hi, Propose delete [Category:Radical theology]. Lacks Wikipedia:Notability as a well-defined term. FatalSubjectivities (talk) 15:31, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@FatalSubjectivities, see WP:CFD#HOWTO. It's probably much easier with twinkle. WP:N is about articles, but you may be right anyway. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:50, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion Sorting[edit]

I am LordVoldemort754. I am active in deletion discussion so I want to know that Is there is any gadget in preferences which can help me to add deletion sorting easily and fast in any deletion discussion. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 15:53, 4 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]