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Hello, Pasdecomplot! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Wikipedia, you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! O3000 (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC) Getting Started Contributing to Wikipedia • Tutorial • Your first article The five pillars of Wikipedia • Simplified ruleset How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Frequently Asked Questions Directories and indexes Where to: ask questions • make requests Tip of the day Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style (Simplified) • Three-revert rule Copyrights • Non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • Sock puppetry Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Community Portal • Adopt-a-user program Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • Resolving disputes Build consensus • Village pump IRC channels • Mailing lists The Signpost (Wikipedia's newspaper) Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Maintenance • Peer review • Requested articles Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Categories • Disambiguity • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

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O3000 (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)Template:Z33

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https://twitter.com/drrobdavidson/status/1223056090713161728?lang=en

Its not hard.Slatersteven (talk) 13:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I did that three times. Received messages the items were posted to talk page, but they disappeared. But now, this is just one source for your review, there are others. Would more sources be helpful in redrafting the introductory language about the public autopsy, or not? As you can see, it's not a case of OR. Pasdecomplot (talk) 13:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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So sweet, and I'll rsvp as yes. Pasdecomplot (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi again. So, I found & provided 3 RS for the mace moment (which omitted the spraying sound and comments from bystanders, but they are better than nothing), and a sentence that is supported by RS, and it was accepted by another editor and done. Please, I don't think you read the talk before responding to the RS. But now I can't access talk to ascertain why the mace incident was removed after being added, since I was only curious. Can't read/respond to a msg from AzureCitizen. I must ask, did you follow through on your threat - which was based on an interpretation of an alleged interpretation? I hope not, especially since it appears you reported me for providing RS for the mace moment, which is the correct sequence of events. Can you clarify? Thanks. Pasdecomplot (talk) 10:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Pasdecomplot, in order to make sure another editor has seen a post of yours, you can ping them by putting {{u|username}} into your post. Please indent your talk page posts by inserting colons, one more than the post you're replying to. (When you open the editing box, you'll see what I'm talking about -- look at the beginning of the other posts; each additional colon indents further.) This helps other editors follow the conversation. —valereee (talk) 19:00, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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help me

Sometimes messages post in multiple. It just happened again. After I received "error edit unsaved" messages on talk I selected publish again. So, multiple messages are posted. Tryed to delete the duplicates before, but might be limited by hardware. Need advice or links. Thanks! Pasdecomplot (talk) 11:33, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

• I moved "help me" template out of the section header. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

The short answer is yes, likely there is an issue with your hardware; your problem sounds like a loss of contact between your mobile device and Wikipedia, so it saves the edit but your device doesn't recognize that it's been saved, and keeps trying to save. It happens to me every once in a while. My advice would be that if you receive such a message, refresh the page in a new tab and make sure it didn't actually post. If you want more help, change the {{help me-helped}} back into a {{help me}}, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 14:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Template:Z163

Primefac thanks so much. Pasdecomplot (talk) 22:31, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks. I'll fix the links. Pasdecomplot (talk) 11:50, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 4 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  —valereee (talk) 18:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Pasdecomplot (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

There's an issue with an administrator that I've tried to reason with, tried to de-escalate their reactions, tried to stop them from overreacting before they react. All of these efforts have failed. They chronically misinterpret discussion threads of mine; the last time they escalated their misunderstanding and used their misinterpretation as a reason to block me from editing/talk on the Killing of George Floyd. Their action effectively severed a discussion, dropped like a hot potato. Just a few minutes ago, they did it again: they misunderstood, got personal; I tried to defuse them, even wrote please; it seems they retaliated by blocking me - this time, for not indenting responses properly. Meanwhile, the same administrator is apparently moving to archive the discussion on George Floyd while I'm blocked. I would leave them a message on their talk page, but don't know how to get there while blocked. I can't file a report on abuse while blocked. Furthermore, reasoning with them has not worked in the past, so trying to reach some sort of reasonable understanding is pointless. I assume their name is associated with the block -valereee. I ask you to please remove the block. I also ask that valereee take a break from attacking my editing discussions, take a break from misunderstanding discussion threads, take a break from retaliation through blocking. I'd really appreciate your help. If additional reports are necessary in order to address the abuse of authority, I'll file them. Thanks so much for your attention, most sincerely,Pasdecomplot (talk) 19:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

It says right here, "This otherwise well-intentioned editor simply refuses to learn anything about Wikipedia. This block is for absolutely refusing to learn to indent on talk pages after many requests." Seems to me you can just start indenting on talk pages when your block expires in two hours. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 20:04, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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Pasdecomplot, you can't edit anything but your own talk page while you're blocked. I'm completely willing to listen here, though. I can tell you're well-intentioned, but you're editing very contentious articles and you're refusing to learn anything about Wikipedia. It's a really bad combination.

It's best to ping me when you respond, which is done by using the code {{u|Valereee}} in your response, then signing it by using four tildes. —valereee (talk) 19:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages such as Talk:Killing of George Floyd are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines, not for general discussion about the topic or unrelated topics, or statements based on your thoughts or feelings. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. —Bagumba (talk) 08:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Offer of advice

Hi Pasdecomplot - I'm Girth Summit, an admin here. I saw your unblock request last night but I was on mobile and didn't have time to investigate. This morning I've looked over the conversation at Talk:Killing of George Floyd, and some of your other recent contributions, and I wonder whether you would mind if I offer you some friendly advice. If you're not interested, feel free to remove this message from your talk.

• It's clear from the discussion at the George Floyd page that you are acting in good faith, but you're finding it difficult to communicate effectively with other editors. For one thing, the lack of indentation in your talk page posts seems to be making other people exasperated. Take a look at WP:THREAD and WP:INDENT for guidance on how to do this, and indeed the whole of WP:TP is worth reading through.
• A, G and F must be amongst the most over-used letters on Wikipedia when people give advice to other editors, but still - we need to assume good faith. In quite a few of your posts over the last few weeks, I see a lack of that. I'm not going to make a big list of them, but I've seen you suggesting that someone removing your content is a form of vandalism, I've seen you describing other people disagreeing with you as 'newb hazing', and most recently you've been accusing Valereee of blocking you in retaliation. If people disagree with you, try to understand their point of view - the chances are that they are disagreeing with you in good faith, and it's possible that they are right. Try to understand, keep learning about our sourcing and editorial policies, listen more than you speak. Don't throw accusations around, it very rarely ends well.
• You recently put a whole load of stuff on Valereee's talk page. It starts with 'Please stop misunderstanding my talk posts', and finishes with 'Any issue understanding the topic? This message is a courtesy message. Thanks for your attention.' I'm going to be frank about that - I genuinely don't understand what message you were trying to convey, or why you put any of that stuff there, and I don't know how you expect Valereee to figure it out. If you have a message to convey to someone, it's better to just say it in plain English.
• I also looked at this comment, and the comments directly above it that you are responding to. To be clear, I don't think the comment about you being a social justice warrior was acceptable, and I've warned the other user about their conduct. My advice to you in those situations is simply not to engage with them - it's not going to be productive. There are two other editors in that thread, one of whom is an exceedingly experienced admin, agreeing that your proposed change has merit - engage with them, suggest specific changes where the wording could be improved, and disregard the other stuff.

That's my advice, for whatever it's worth. If I were you I would go now and remove all that stuff from Valereee's talk page, probably apologise for putting it there, and then go work on George Washington. Your call. GirthSummit _(blether) 09:29, 22 June 2020 (UTC)