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About ArbComm

That user has been causing issues at XfD for much longer. He derailed some of my nominations with stupid incorrect twisted policy comments. I don't think it has anything to do with NJ, and everything to do with his enjoying disrupting discussions. [1] Legacypac (talk) 17:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I'm aware of the other issues involving Unscintillating's AfD votes. power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• 3D models can now be uploaded to Commons. [2]
• Page Previews has been updated to use HTML for previews. This has fixed many issues. An A/B test was done on English and German Wikipedia to measure how it is used. Other changes were also made. [3]
• Some edits have to be checked against too many conditions before they can trigger an abuse filter. If that is the reason no filter is triggered the edit will be tagged for review. [4]
• Auto-saving has been added to the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. Right now it is meant to help if your browser crashes or if you accidentally close a tab. [5]

Problems

• The abuse filter did not tag all edits that should have been tagged after last week's MediaWiki version had come to the wikis. It was fixed on 9 March (UTC). [6]

Changes later this week

• You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. This was originally planned to happen last week. [7]
• It is now possible to specify the block parameters for each filter in Special:AbuseFilter. The parameters include block duration and if the user should be blocked from editing their own talk page. The block duration is separate for anonymous and registered users. [8][9]
• A hundred Wikimedia wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 13 and 14 March. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [10][11][12]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 March. It will be on all wikis from 15 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 March at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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19:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Matt Van Komen

Hello Power~enwiki. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Matt Van Komen, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: claims significance, has 250+ GNews hits, use WP:AFD instead. Thank you. SoWhy 10:12, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

The claim of significance I saw (roughly, appearing in a "notable" high school basketball game) wasn't credible IMO. However, being 7'5 tall probably is. I probably won't bother with AfD despite WP:CRYSTAL; the page would be re-created soon anyway. power~enwiki (π, ν) 15:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Chilonia Union High School

Please published for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masumasu11 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Dr. Pepper's Jaded Hearts Club Band

An article that you have been involved in editing—Dr. Pepper's Jaded Hearts Club Band —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Audiovideodiscoo (talk) 03:26, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• On March 12 early morning UTC, the number of 503 error messages increased due to an issue on esams datacenter. It has been fixed. [13]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 March. It will be on all wikis from 22 March (calendar).

Meetings

• There is no Editing team meeting this week.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• From April 4, the autopatrol status of edits will only be accessible in the Recent Changes database table, so only for 30 days. [14][15]
• In-Context Help and Onboarding is a new project, aiming to improve retention of new wiki editors. The goal is to give them short tutorials and other training experiences based on their activity. Collaboration team is expecting feedback and comments on the project talk page, especially from people working with newcomers.

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15:03, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

PCR & Rollbacker

Hello Power~enwiki. Your account has been granted the "rollbacker" and "pending changes reviewer" user rights. These user rights allow you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes and quickly revert the edits of other users.

Rollback user right

Please keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin).

Pending changes reviewer user right

The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection enabled is located at Special:StablePages. You may find the following pages useful to review:

• Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing.
• Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes.
• Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.

Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of reviewer or rollback. If you no longer want either of these user rights, contact me and I'll remove it, alternatively you can leave a request on the administrators' noticeboard. Happy editing! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 20:35, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Seeing your edits to your common.js and .css, I think maybe you might not want rollback? Will remove if you'd prefer. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't really care, I may use it for Huggle at some point. Pending-changes is definitely useful, though. power~enwiki (π, ν) 00:55, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Okay, just let me know! Happy editing! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:01, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) .mw-rollback-link {display:none !important;} works perfectly in my vector.css. I think you were just missing the "!important" which prevents other rules setting it to "inline" etc... -- Begoon 02:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I got the CSS from User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback. It's intended as a fallback there if there are script issues; I'm not sure if it should be updated or not. (and don't really care enough to find out) power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:44, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I just hide the links to prevent accidental clicks, because I prefer to use an edit summary so Twinkle is a better "rollback" option for me. -- Begoon 02:49, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Ezidkhan (autonomous region)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Autonomous Region of Ezidkhan and my talk page. There have been some confirmed socks involved in the past but the current article's creator isn't one of them. What's particularly annoying is that I admire the Yazidi struggle greatly, but using Wikipedia this way isn't appropriate. I'm on my iPad right now which I hate to use for editing and haven't compared the new version with the old, but it still doesn't seem to have sources newer than. Last September which is odd if this is really notable Doug Weller talk 06:16, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

It's virtually identical to the one deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Autonomous Region of Ezidkhan(see the NORN discussion I link to there) which was created by a sock. There's a lovely attack on my talk page too. I seem to have offended all the mapmaker experts on Wikipedia while supporting genocide. Doug Weller talk 08:47, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I commented on that AfD, but apparently forgot about it. As you note, there continues to be no new sourcing for this group, and it's unclear what it is actually supposed to be (an Iraqi autonomous region or an independent country; a military government or a civilian one). power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Although he can't resist the personal attacks, I'm trying to engage with him on his talk page, but I don't think he's able to understand what we mean by original research. Doug Weller talk 19:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Pyo Chang-won

Can you please provide a basis for each issue you have blanked on Pyo Chang-won so that we may get a discussion going? If you do now provide a basis, I'll assume there is no such basis to remove them and I'll just re-add them. Veritas et aequitas Korea (talk) 12:58, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Your suggestion of a site ban for my account

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. In other words, my aim is not to be insulted, even though I'm not part of the community anymore. Hence, I would like to ask you to explain why you would support a ban, because I fail to understand your motive. --Mathmensch (talk) 07:16, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

You seem uninterested in helping to build an encyclopedia, only in re-hashing old complaints. And apparently you've already found that out. power~enwiki (π, ν) 14:28, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Article for deletion

Hi, Power enwiki! Thank you for your attention to Repair the World. You proposed the article for deletion for WP:ORGDEPTH. I read the rules, but I think I need your help. Could you please show me an example how to fix the article and remove the deletion template? Thank you beforehand, Lidiia Kondratieva (talk) 08:01, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

The Arbitration Committee has declined the New Jersey-related AfDs arbitration case request, which you were listed as a party to. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 20:18, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Oops, I think you linked the wrong case

As per this edit at AN/I: 1, I would point out that the user there was an AlextheWhovian, not Adamstom97. Maybe you got things a little mixed up? - Jack Sebastian (talk) 02:08, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Adamstom became involved there too. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:10, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Maybe you would find reading throught "voluminous" section to glean the point. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 02:58, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

I not what say, gumshoe? (aka: no, respond to the thread I linked at ANI, or else I'll assume you have no defense to that this is an ongoing dispute). power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:00, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Article Improvement

Is there a way for me to improve my article because on the list of suicides that have been attributed to bullying article hamed's name was on the list of suicides and there was no article about him so I decided to create an article to reduce the risk of his name being deleted on the suicide list. Please tell me some tips on how to improve my article that way it doesn't get deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous1941 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

You're referring to Suicide of Hamed Nastoh. I don't have anything useful to suggest, beyond suggesting you comment at the deletion discussion rather than here. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Some of the interface icons and text sizes will change slightly, as part of the updates for improved accessibility and consistency. These icons are used in many features, including Notifications, Recent Changes, Beta Features, Visual Editor, 2017 Wikitext Editor, Code Editor, and others. While editor toolbars, dialogs, and menus will appear slightly bigger; elements on special pages will be slightly smaller. Functionality will not change. [16] [17]
• The deprecated #toc and #toctitle CSS ids have been removed. If your wiki was still using these for fake Tables of Content (ToC) then these might lose their styling. They can be replaced with .toc and .toctitle classes where appropriate. [18]
• TemplateStyles will be deployed to the Wikivoyages on 28 March 2018. [19]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 March. It will be on all wikis from 29 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 March at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be one hour earlier than usual on 28 March at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• From 9 April, the sort order of categories will be distorted for a short time. We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a maintenance script to update existing database entries. This will last anywhere from a few hours to a few days, depending on wiki size. Read more details. [20]
• Changes are coming to search for Serbian projects. Cyrillic and Latin variants of a word and different grammatical forms of a word will be able to find each other. Read more on MediaWiki in Serbian or English.

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20:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Rules for ANI

Idiot is correct but maybe "unhelpful to your success" or "makes you look bad" Legacypac (talk) 19:40, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

• I'd prefer something like "don't vote on matters you're INVOLVED in, merely comment", with "don't oppose sanctions against yourself" as a corollary. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:42, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

New Page Review Newsletter No.10

Hello 力, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

• ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.

Paid editing

• Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

• The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
• Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies. A further discussion is currently taking place at: Can a subject specific guideline invalidate the General Notability Guideline?

Nominate competent users for Autopatrolled

• While patrolling articles, if you find an editor that is particularly competent at creating quality new articles, and that user has created more than 25 articles (rather than stubs), consider nominating them for the 'Autopatrolled' user right HERE.

News

• The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.

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Tech News: 2018-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Template Wizard script available for testing. It will show up as a puzzle-piece icon in the 2010 WikiEditor. You can click on the icon to insert a template.
• The Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey is to be sent to participants around the world this week. If you are volunteer developer, and have contributed code to any pieces of MediaWiki, gadgets, or tools, please take 20 to 40 minutes to complete the survey.

Problems

• MediaWiki deployment train has been rolled back to version 1.31.0-wmf.26 on week 13, due to a multiplication of lost connections during MySQL queries. Some of the recent changes may have not been applied. They will be deployed next week. [21][22][23]
• The Notifications badge icons were overlapping other links. This has been fixed. [24]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 April. It will be on all wikis from 5 April (calendar).
• User subpages ending in .json will now be protected from other people editing them, like .js and .css pages already are. If you have a tool that stores static configuration, you can now use a subpage like User:Example/mygadget.json to do this without concerns. [25]
• Tidy will be replaced by RemexHtml on the next set of wikis. On April 4, we plan to turn off Tidy on all Wikiquotes (except frwikiquote) and Wikimedia chapters and user groups wikis. 23 wikis will have Tidy replaced this time. [26][27][28]
• AbuseFilter will transition to use OOUI starting April 4, and the rule editor will also be changed to a CodeEditor (ACE) similar to what is found on user JavaScript pages. The move to OOUI will continue over the next few weeks. [29] [30]
• In Special:Preferences, the preference "Reload the watchlist automatically whenever a filter is changed (JavaScript required)" is now only visible for users who have opt-out the New Filters for the Watchlist. [31]
• You can see names of individual abuse filters in Special:AbuseLog. Now if the name of an abuse filter contains some wikisyntax like links, it will not change to a link when displayed. [32]
• You can now search through filter patterns at Special:AbuseFilter. You may specify either a plain string or a regular expression and the matching filters will show a snippet of their pattern with the match highlighted. [33]

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• If you're using, creating or improving Lua modules, you can give your feedback to help harmonizing the modules across wikis and add more useful functions.
• On April 11th, we plan to turn off Tidy on all wikis with less than 50 entries in all high priority linter categories. About 60 wikis will have Tidy replaced. Currently about 600 wikis have had Tidy replaced and we have another 300 wikis to go. We plan to finish this transition from Tidy to RemexHtml by end of June 2018. Please follow T175706 to monitor progress of Tidy replacement. [34][35]

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19:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Psychologists for social change

Why did you delete the article I created? This is an important social policy thinktank in the UK, who have made significant publications to inform government policy, and represent a very large number of qualified clinical psychologists - I'm not a member, but I created the article as a clinical psychologist in the UK who has specialist knowledge of this topic and thought it was a very important omission to wikipedia not to mention them.

To give it some context, the ACP (association of clinical psychologists) is about to split away from the British Psychological Society (on which you have a page) to represent the 10,000 applied clinicians, leaving the BPS as an academic learned society, and psychologists for social change is an important group that spans the two but is there to speak out from the psychological evidence base on policy issues. I suspect wikipedia should eventually have a page on all three, but the vote for clinical psychologists to move en masse from the BPS to the ACP hasn't happened yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tegmim (talk • contribs) 21:19, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I can't check the article myself to know for sure, but I probably did because it was written in a promotional way, with no secondary sources that attested to notability. This appears to be a minor advocacy group, and I'm unsure why the ACP or BPS are at all relevant here. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:23, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Another bad close

Power, I know you want to walk the walk and look like an admin, but this is another bad close. You aren't an admin. You cannot declare a WP:SNOW close on something the day it is nominated when two voters supported a merge. Will it be closed any other way? Probably not, but, like I said, it is inappropriate for a non-admin to make that call at such a juncture.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I disagree with basically everything you say, but the rules are clear about contested and possibly controversial closes, so I'll revert. I expect an admin will re-close it within 24 hours. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:39, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

You diagree with everything I said, yet reopened the discussion because of reasons I said. Alrighty! I was not trying to sound harsh. You have a much better chance at being an admin than I. Far more people hate me ;) TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

How can anyone hate someone named Grace Slick? Well, she did take part in: We built this city. O3000 (talk) 20:12, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I would "pile on" here to caution Power that they should not have closed this. First, it was not eligible for SNOW treatment as there were six keep !votes, one delete-or-merge (the nominator), and one merge. So it was not true that it had only a "snowball's chance in hell" of any outcome but keep. Second, the discussion had only been open for twelve hours (!) - not even one full round of the global clock, excluding up to half of interested Wikepedians from even seeing it. Third, a discussion as divided as this one should probably not be closed by a non-admin, even if had been open for the regulation amount of time. NACs are for where the outcome is obvious, and this outcome wasn't. Please don't make a habit of this kind of reckless close. --MelanieN (talk) 20:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Every time there's a shooting or vehicle attack in Europe, we get the exact same AfD discussion, and nothing ever happens. It's clear I closed it too early, but I do still expect a snow close within the next 24 hours. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:34, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

If I may, that’s a problem with AfDs these days. RECENTISM and NOTNEWS need stronger language, IMO. AfDs result in keep far too often, partly because there are those that want additions that they think support some view that they have. It’s not just about inclusionism vs. exclusionism. It’s about filling the site with articles that they like for one reason or another. But, an encyclopedia is not meant to be an all-inclusive source. It’s meant for information that is likely to stand the test of time. O3000 (talk) 00:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)