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Remove (2024 est.)
in the following parameters of the infobox:
GDP_PPP =$768.52 billion, 2024 est.)[1] GDP_PPP_per_capita =
$16,483 (2024 est.)[1]
==>
GDP_PPP =$768.52 billion[1] GDP_PPP_per_capita =
$16,483[1]
as this is redundant with the parameters GDP_PPP_year
. Jtruc34 (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
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The sentence “Most Algerians are Arabs, with Berbers forming a sizeable minority.” is factually incorrect. It should read, “Almost all Algerians are in fact ethnically Berber. From the time of Napoleon III, the French began referring to all Algerian natives as ‘Arabs’. Algerians are still to this day mostly referred to as Arabs in France, and many Algerians still refer to themselves as Arabs. In fact, Berber cultural identity and language was mostly eroded during the French colonial period. Prior to the French colonization, the region was known as Barbary, inhabited predominantly by Moors and Berbers, but also the ancient descendants of Roman colonists, and former European slaves (captured during the Ottoman period). The Arab invasions did not significantly alter the ethnic composition of the population, but did alter the cultural and religious landscape with Islam. There has also been a substantial state sponsored Arabization program (with mixed results) since independence in 1962 to in-still Arab identity. And so, while Algeria is also part of the Arab geo-political sphere (Arab Union, Arab Maghreb Union) it remains ethnically a Berber majority, even though the Berbers are a linguistic minority. Berber culture has managed to survive where the language has survived, that is, in difficult to reach and hard to access regions such as the Aures region, the mountains of Kabylie, Djanet and Tamanrasset in the Sahara. 38.175.134.89 (talk) 05:48, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:00, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
The sentence “Most Algerians are Arabs, with Berbers forming a sizeable minority.” is factually incorrect. It should read, “Almost all Algerians are in fact ethnically Berber (Amazigh). From the time of Napoleon III, the French began referring to all Algerian natives as ‘Arabs’. Algerians are still to this day mostly referred to as Arabs in France, and many Algerians still refer to themselves as Arabs. In fact, Berber (Amazigh) cultural identity and language was mostly eroded during the French colonial period. Prior to the French colonization, the region was known as Barbary, inhabited predominantly by Moors and Berbers, but also the ancient descendants of Roman colonists, and former European slaves (captured during the Ottoman period). The Arab invasions did not significantly alter the ethnic composition of the population, but did alter the cultural and religious landscape with Islam. There has also been a substantial state sponsored Arabization program (with mixed results) since independence in 1962 to in-still Arab identity. And so, while Algeria is also part of the Arab geo-political sphere (Arab Union, Arab Maghreb Union) it remains ethnically a Berber (Amazigh) majority, even though the Berbers are a linguistic minority. Berber (Amazigh) culture has managed to survive where the language has survived, that is, in difficult to reach and hard to access regions such as the Aures region, the mountains of Kabylie, Djanet and Tamanrasset in the Sahara. Primarysourceguy (talk) 05:57, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
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@Sugarcane juice: 1) other sources cannot trump the ONS. 2) The ONS hasn't released any new numbers. In 2024, it said "assuming the growth rate of 2023 is maintained, the total resident population would reach 47,400,000." M.Bitton (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Algeria has a population of 47,400,000 as of 1 Jan 2025 based on the national annual projection [[1]]. and ranked as 32nd in the world (check here)
- Do not edit war, let's keep the page up to date. Sugarcane juice (talk) 15:47, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Algeria has
That's not what the source says, and since we have no idea what the growth rate of 2024 is, we simply stick to what the source says about 2024 (based on the known growth rate of 2023). I don't need to check what you added to another wikipedia article (an unreliable source).- Why did you change the title of the reliable source from "DEMOGRAPHIE ALGERIENNE 2020 à 2023" to "DEMOGRAPHIE ALGERIENNE 2020 à 2025"?
- I suggest you address what I wrote (regarding the assumption of the growth), and instead of accusing me of the very thing that you're doing, perhaps learn about other policies and guidelines (such as WP:BRD, for instance). M.Bitton (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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- What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):
− | Since the 2011 breakup of Sudan, and the creation of South Sudan, Algeria has been the largest country in | + | Since the 2011 breakup of Sudan, and the creation of South Sudan, Algeria has been the largest country in Africa. It is also the largest country of the Mediterranean Basin. |
- Why it should be changed:
It needs rewording, since Sudan hasn't access to Mediterranean Sea and had never had (I looked what Mediterranean Basin means, and it is solely about countries with Mediterranean coastline; otherwise countries like Kenya or Rwanda with Nile coastline would be part of Mediterranean Basin). Now it sounds as if before 2011 Sudan was the largest country of the Mediterranean Basin.
2A03:D000:4307:DEE6:CC68:D8FF:FE34:4D6 (talk) 10:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
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Done Skitash (talk) 13:06, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
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