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[edit]Why is this subject not notable? I don't understand, as I used several sources from actual scientific articles and such, and it is a very interesting theme that can be easily expanded.
Also, I don't understand why this is not considered wikified. It has an introduction, a brief history section and several examples, and I wrote it to be as neutral as possible. @SSR07, if you could explain to me, I would appreciate, as I can make the article better. Notsonotoriousbig (talk) 15:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, adding the tags was a little brash. I only did a cursory look at the article and it seemed iffy in some areas, but you're right: it's an interesting topic that can be improved. Sometimes I rush my assessments a little, which leads to mistakes. Thanks for calling it out! I'll adjust the tags. Some thoughts:
- - The scope of the article is a little unclear. The topic is inherently fuzzy and I think a little clarification would go a long way. Some of the architects mentioned, for example, are anarchists but there isn't a direct line drawn between those beliefs and their architecture in their individual articles. Maybe it would be worth starting there and then plugging that into this article?
- - Consider changing the title to "anarchist architecture" instead of the portmanteau
- - The latter part of the lead has the un-encyclopedic tone, which is why I flagged the article (seems a little preachy imo). The rest of the piece looks fine, though.
- SSR07 (talk) 01:33, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've gone through and done some copy editing and cleanup. Let me know if you have any questions about what I've deleted/rewritten. The "examples" heading could benefit from some further cleanup...it jumps from one thing to another and would be improved by examples more tightly packaged into themes. SSR07 (talk) 01:42, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @SSR07 @Tijelu thank you for helping with the improvement of the article! Notsonotoriousbig (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've gone through it, tried to describe in a bit more neutral way, summarized content and removed, added and expanded on some examples. I agree that it could be expanded on with ideas and buildings from anarchist architects, I added something from John Turner on informal settlements which I thought was interesting Tijelu (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @SSR07 @Tijelu thank you for helping with the improvement of the article! Notsonotoriousbig (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I agree the title "anarchist architecture" is better than the portmanteau since it's used more in academic literature and the latter seems to refer to a specific art movement Tijelu (talk) 13:12, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- As far as I read, "anarchist architecture" was used extensively in scientific papers, but the architects linked with it wouldn't call themselves as part of the "anarchist architecture" movement. A different thing happens with the term "anarchitecture", where architects and artists would actively declare being part of the movement. That's why I opted for the second term.
- That said, that's only my impressions and I have no problem in using the academic term. I still have a lot to read about the subject, but I think your argument is a valid one :) Notsonotoriousbig (talk) 13:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I guess there is a difference between the art movement, architects who describe themselves as anarchist and make anarchist archictecture, and architecture that can be described as arnarchist (such as favelas and squats). I think the article would benefit from making a clear distinction between these and explaining them. Anyway, I found this article randomly and the topic has captured my interest! I made some more additions around the art group just now Tijelu (talk) 14:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your contributions! I've gathered a series of books about the subject, but I still didn't have the chance of reading them. I think as long as we keep writing, our doubts will be clarified. Notsonotoriousbig (talk) 14:12, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I guess there is a difference between the art movement, architects who describe themselves as anarchist and make anarchist archictecture, and architecture that can be described as arnarchist (such as favelas and squats). I think the article would benefit from making a clear distinction between these and explaining them. Anyway, I found this article randomly and the topic has captured my interest! I made some more additions around the art group just now Tijelu (talk) 14:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've gone through and done some copy editing and cleanup. Let me know if you have any questions about what I've deleted/rewritten. The "examples" heading could benefit from some further cleanup...it jumps from one thing to another and would be improved by examples more tightly packaged into themes. SSR07 (talk) 01:42, 4 June 2025 (UTC)