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Foundation date(s) in infobox

I've revised the foundation date in the infobox to include the foundation of Fustat as well as "Cairo" proper (see this edit). As explained in the expanded history section, a number of historians who've written histories of the city (most notably Janet Abu-Lughod and André Raymond) trace its origins to Fustat, with Cairo merely being the latest and most significant of the subsequent foundations added to it. That said, I'm unsure about the best wording to balance precision with conciseness in an infobox, so any further suggestions are welcome. One could also, arguably, add the construction of the former Roman fortress (no specific date but I've seen c. 300 AD used as an approximation), but that might be complicating things too much or it might be blurring the line too much with all the earlier (but non-continuous) forts and settlements in the region during Antiquity. R Prazeres (talk) 22:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead summary

(Re: Fragrant Peony and IP editor.) Per MOS:LEAD the lead is a summary of the article, and a large part of the history section concerns the periods before 969. Not only that, but any reliable history of Cairo begins at least as early as the foundation of Fustat; e.g. Abu-Lughod and Raymond's books, among other sources cited on this page. In fact, those historians explicitly say so. Just because the name "Cairo" originates with the Fatimid foundation does not mean the city as a whole began then. Summarizing the city's starting point as 969 is misleading both in terms of representing the article's content and in terms of what reliable sources present. Considering that the lead is not very long and the revised wording adds only about two sentences, I have a hard time seeing the justification for suddenly excluding basic information. No issues were raised when these revisions to the article and the lead were made two months ago. If it's a matter of wanting to be more concise, the same information can still be condensed in the lead without eliminating the basics. R Prazeres (talk) 23:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't "exactly" right since Fustat itself wasn't even the oldest settlement, hence why the detailed settlements section is correct. Fragrant Peony (talk) 00:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say it was literally the oldest, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say, since the current wording of the lead mentions the earlier settlements too, for that very reason. If it's of any relevance to this discussion, Fustat is indeed the most important early foundation which led to the development of the modern city; again, that's explicitly said by Abu-Lughod (1971, p. 7) and Raymond (1993, p. 13), already cited in text. R Prazeres (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Names

Can anyone please change the name from Cairo to Cairo, Egypt because there is another city it name is Cairo it’s better thing because maybe someone thinks that city is the same another one Lamise2006 (talk) 08:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you're serious about that proposal then you will need to make Requested Move. However I seriously doubt that would gain any support since this is obviously the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. R Prazeres (talk) 08:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

I see all over the place that the flag of cairo isn't the one used in on this page. Is it even official, or just some idiot made up the flag. Eehuiio (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no i am from the residents i see the white flag but i see the blue one more more often like 95% of the flags are blue Ilovemycountry1 (talk) 00:36, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

we have two variations:

1-sky/normal blue background with the emblem in the middle

2- white background with the emblem in the middle

I never honestly saw the one with a circle and two colours Ilovemycountry1 (talk) 00:38, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Coptic name for Cairo

The Coptic name for Cairo should be added because it is an Egyptian city, and the Coptic language is used in churches in Egypt. In Egyptian colloquial Arabic, there are thousands of words of Coptic origin that we use daily in Egypt. Articles like "Luxor" and "Aswan" contain both the Coptic and Arabic names for the city. Even though "Aswan" is not an Arabic word, does this mean that the Arabic name for Aswan should be removed? @Remsense: Egyptiankeng (talk) 05:04, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]