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Clearly this is an article yet to be written. Amongst many other topics, the Bolshevik credentials of the early organization need to be delineated. Zerotalk11:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
^Teveth, Shabtai (1985) Ben-Gurion and the Palestinian Arabs. From Peace to War. Oxford University Pres. ISBN0-19-503562-3. pp. 25, 26.
Basic questions:
WHAT WAS HeHalutz? The Jewish Virtual Library is very vague and seems to stretch the definition back to any kind of (proto-)Zionist pioneers' org., from the 1880s on, which looks fishy. The two earliest HeHalutz groups mentioned as carrying this precise name are from Russia (1905) and the US (not so clear, probably also 1905) - so now what? It almost looks like it was a "good-for-all" TERM, not at all a movement or structure, pulled out at every convenient opportunity, like during WWI in the US (Ben-Gurion's & Ben-Zvi's recruitment tour), WWII (see Warsaw photo), whenever!
Why He-" and not "Ha-"? Whose Hebrew is good enough? The usual article is ha-, but maybe they didn't know it yet, those early wannabe Hebrews :) ? Or did "haha-" sound bad for a serious enterprise?
Yeah, the matter is complicated by the considerable number of organizations with the same name. I don't have time to sort it out. Zerotalk14:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A "chalutz" is a Zionist, or proto-Zionist, pioneer. There is no mandatory connection to the specific HeHalutz organisation, which was founded some 20 years after the first chalutzim of Hovevei Zion had already become active. Therefore, the automatic Wiki redirect from Chalutz to HeHalutz is plain wrong. "Ch-" is how German-influenced late-19th - early 20th-century orthography spelled "H", so "Chalutz" should by all means redirect to Halutz and nothing else.Arminden (talk) 14:21, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
