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Q1: Is the United Kingdom a "country"?

A1: Reliable sources support the view that the United Kingdom is a single country. This view is shared with other major reputable encyclopedias. There has been a long-standing consensus to describe the UK in this way.

Q2: Why isn't Great Britain listed as one of the names of the United Kingdom, in the lead?

A2: See the article entitled "Terminology of the British Isles". Great Britain is the name of the largest island that the UK encompasses, and is not generally used in source material as the name of the country. Indeed, Britain 2001, the "official reference book" of the United Kingdom produced by the Office for National Statistics for "British diplomatic posts" says in its foreword:

The term 'Britain' is sometimes used as a short way of expressing the full title of the country: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (or more simply again, the United Kingdom or the UK). 'Great Britain' comprises England, Wales and Scotland only.
— Office for National Statistics, (2001), Britain 2001: The Official Yearbook of the United Kingdom, p. vii

This view is reiterated by the Prime Minister's Office, which states:

The United Kingdom is made up of four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Its full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. 'Great Britain', however, comprises only England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the largest island of the British Isles.
— Countries within a country, number10.gov.uk (archived version from April 2010)

A report submitted to the United Nations Economic and Social Council by the Permanent Committe on Geographical Names and the Ordnance Survey states:

Great Britain consists of England + Scotland + Wales. The term is exclusive of Northern Ireland and is therefore not a synonym for the term "United Kingdom".
— United Nations Economic and Social Council (2007). "Ninth United Nations Conference on the standardization of Geographical Names" (PDF).

There has been a long-standing consensus not to include Great Britain in the lead as an interchangable name of the state.

Q2b: Is Britain really one of the names of the United Kingdom?

A2b: Whether Britain should be listed as an alternative name in the lead has been discussed often, most extensively in August 2007 and April 2011; and whether the alternate name Britain should be qualified with "incorrect" in June 2006, with "informally" in September 2006, or with "mistakenly" in January 2011.

Q3: Isn't the United Kingdom a "collection of countries"?

A3: This is one of the most common questions raised on this talk page, but consistently, consensus goes against taking that approach. No major reputable source describes the UK in this way. However the history of the formation of the United Kingdom, supported by source material, highlights that England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales are "countries within a country". Please also refer to Q4.

Q4: Are England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales countries?

A4: This is the most frequent question raised by visitors to this talk page, and the issue which generates the most debate. However, as a result of a lack of a formal British constitution, and owing to a convoluted history of the formation of the United Kingdom, a variety of terms exist which are used to refer to England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Reliable and official sources support use of the word "countries":

As the UK has no written constitution in the usual sense, constitutional terminology is fraught with difficulties of interpretation and it is common usage nowadays to describe the four constituent parts of the UK (Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland) as “countries”.
— Scottish Parliament. "Your Scotland questions; Is Scotland a country?". scottish.parliament.uk. Retrieved 2008-08-01.

On Wikipedia, the term has broadly won preference amongst the editing community (note, however, that a country is not the same as a sovereign state). Also commonplace is the phrase "constituent country, or countries", when referring to the countries as elements of the UK. This phrase, however, is not an actual term; ie Scotland is not a 'constituent country' in itself, but is one of the constituent countries of the UK. The community endeavours to achieve an atmosphere of neutrality and (for the sake of stability) compromise on the various UK naming issues. See also Countries of the United Kingdom for more details about the terms that have been used to describe England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.

Q5: Why don't we refer to England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales as nations, or by the term "Home Nations"?

A5: Widespread confusion surrounds the use of the word "nation". In standard British English, and in academic language, a nation is a social group of two or more people, and not a division of land. This is also the approach taken in the nation article, and across Wikipedia (for example, the English people and the Québécois are described as "nations", reflecting real world practice). The term Home Nations is generally used only in sporting contexts. It is not used in any major reputable sources outside of sport, and is not the approach taken by any other encyclopedia.

Q6: Isn't Northern Ireland a province, and Wales a principality?

A6: This view is supported by some sources, but the current consensus amongst the editing community is aligned to a greater body of work which describes both Northern Ireland and Wales as countries. However, the terms are not all mutually exclusive: a country can also be a principality or a province, and these terms are mentioned throughout Wikipedia as alternative names in afternotes.

Q7: Why isn't the flag of Northern Ireland shown in the article?

A7: Northern Ireland has not had its own unique, government sanctioned flag since its government was prorogued in 1972, and abolished in 1973 under the Northern Ireland Constitution Act 1973. During official events, the British government uses the Union Flag — the flag of the United Kingdom — and this is the only flag used by the government in Northern Ireland. The consensus is to reflect this in the article with a note.

Q8: Why is "British Isles" not mentioned in the introduction?

A8: Again, Wikipedia editors often disagree on the acceptability and suitability of various terms and phrases. This term is not favoured by a number of Wikipedia editors, and is currently not used in the introduction both to simplify the status quo, and also to discourage edit warring.

This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

United Kingdom was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
May 3, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
July 22, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
September 30, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
February 11, 2007	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
October 3, 2008	Good article reassessment	Delisted
January 22, 2010	Good article nominee	Not listed
March 6, 2015	Good article nominee	Not listed
September 24, 2018	Good article nominee	Not listed
Current status: Delisted good article

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Section sizes

Section size for United Kingdom (50 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	28,328	28,328
Etymology and terminology	16,415	16,415
History	213	63,014
Prior to the Treaty of Union	15,274	15,274
Union of England and Scotland	4,903	4,903
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland	8,297	8,297
World wars and partition of Ireland	8,656	8,656
Post-war 20th century	17,495	17,495
21st century	8,176	8,176
Geography	8,524	20,503
Climate	6,255	6,255
Topography	5,724	5,724
Politics	19,745	78,033
Administrative divisions	7,507	7,507
Devolution	9,144	29,024
England	3,426	3,426
Scotland	12,325	12,325
Wales	1,015	1,015
Northern Ireland	3,114	3,114
Foreign relations	5,023	5,023
Law and criminal justice	10,871	10,871
Military	5,863	5,863
Economy	28,506	55,093
Science and technology	8,862	8,862
Transport	8,821	8,821
Energy	7,394	7,394
Water supply and sanitation	1,510	1,510
Demographics	7,017	44,102
Ethnicity	4,172	4,172
Language	9,733	9,733
Religion	8,021	8,021
Migration	5,760	5,760
Education	4,340	4,340
Healthcare	5,059	5,059
Culture	2,291	67,122
Literature	10,972	10,972
Philosophy	1,871	1,871
Music	21,782	21,782
Visual art	3,266	3,266
Cinema	4,279	4,279
Cuisine	4,331	4,331
Media	7,958	7,958
Sport	7,567	7,567
Symbols	2,805	2,805
See also	404	404
Notes	26	26
References	30	30
External links	706	1,971
Government	235	235
Travel	1,030	1,030
Total	375,041	375,041

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 April 2025

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Add a link to The Beatles at the beginning of their paragraph in the "Culture" section. Not something super important, but I think it should be there. Quantum684 (My talk page) 13:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: There is a link to The Beatles in the previous paragraph; see MOS:REPEATLINK. Day Creature (talk) 00:06, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Two images of financial centres

Do we really need two images of financial centres in the economy section? With London already being the principal financial centre in Europe, I think having the one image of it already gets the point across that the UK plays a leading role in finance, and the other image of Edinburgh should be replaced with something else. Maxeto0910 (talk) 14:11, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree TheHandofFear (talk) 19:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2025

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LewisWillo2025 (talk) 00:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I want to edit the GDP of the UK in nominal, PPP, nominal per capita and PPP per capita please.

Not done—please state exactly what changes you would like to make in an "X to Y" format. TTWIDEE (talk) 07:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 May 2025

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So firstly please update GDP of Britain

Nominal GDP 2026 Estimate: 3459.00 USD Billion

Nominal GDP per capita 2026 estimate: $48,417

GDP PPP 2026 Estimate: $53,805

GDP PPP per capita 2026 estimate: 53,805 US

Please accept these figures, I do not know how to use citations. You can check the figures by searching them up but I am not the kind of guy who annoys people

Long alive the United Kingdom of Britain, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland C3B4ME6 (talk) 17:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Pointless extrapolations. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Remsense ‥ 论 17:17, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 May 2025

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Can somebody add a line about AUKUS and Five Eyes in the Foreign Relations chapter under Politics? I’d suggest after the line about relations with Canada, Australia and NZ. TheHandofFear (talk) 19:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. If you want something to be included in the article, please propose the exact text you want to add. Day Creature (talk) 15:56, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The anthem document name is still god save the queen lol 210.195.23.73 (talk) 06:59, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This doesn't matter at all. It's a filename. Remsense ‥ 论 07:33, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FA Cup Photo

If anyone is at the FA Cup Final today, can you take a new good photo with no bias to one team or the other and upload to wikipedia commons? Then someone can look at updating it (if it's good enough). 117PXL (talk) 11:25, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 May 2025

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In the demographics section under migration, it says this. Verbatim.

"The most common origins of those naturalised in 2024 were, Pakistani, Indian, Nigerian, Filipino, Bangladeshi, Italian, Turkish, Romanian, Iranian and Iranian"

It should say:

The most common origins of those naturalised in 2024 were, Pakistani, Indian, Nigerian, Filipino, Bangladeshi, Italian, Turkish, Romanian, and Iranian 148.88.245.170 (talk) 09:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for the alert. HiLo48 (talk) 09:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]