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Article Evaluation

Reviewed the article on HCI. It was good, up to date, the citations were linked and available, and the language wasn't too hard to read. Copy edited the article on Donald Trump. Added a citation to the History of YouTube page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanhim7 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Article Proposals

The first article I found is the Composition (Language) article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_(language)) from the Composing article (part of WikiProject Disambiguation).Composition (Language) is also part of WikiProject and is rated Top Importance. Some things it's looking for are: "What are the parts of a composition? And how to begin a composition?" The article currently has two references. I would add sections about the parts of composition, how to begin it, etc., as requested. Here are some sources that add specifically to the section about composing rhetoric (some are textbooks meant to teach composition so Talk Box requests would be met): 1.) https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED076992 2.) https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=ycMCAAAAYAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=composition+in+rhetoric&ots=jHQga15ex-&sig=Wfaa7J2tp7kK9GpyTuWOvxfcVsU#v=onepage&q=composition%20in%20rhetoric&f=false 3.) http://www.jstor.org/stable/1077174?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents 4.) https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=Ve9Lt0d1QJoC&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=composition+in+rhetoric&ots=15neLmSLZL&sig=-Hacr64mCvhBeo9bYrlQRVq7pA8#v=onepage&q=composition%20in%20rhetoric&f=false 5.) Even as something as simple as: https://www.roanestate.edu/owl/elementslit.html might be able to bring clarity to the sparse page.

Another article is Rhetorical operation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_operations). It was previously titled Amplification (rhetoric). Comments in the talk box say that the article is useless without examples, and the article itself only has two references. For this article, I think there just needs to be more sources and examples. Right now it all seems like one big definition. It also needs more information on structural semantic rhetoric, so that could be added. Here are some sources that will help define rhetorical operations, provide examples, and also broaden the amount of information on the page: 1.) http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/eng/Rhetorical_operations 2.) https://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/5313977/T.Albaladejo._The_Pragmatic_Nature_of_Discourse-Building_Rhetorical_Operations.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1518311135&Signature=0Qx5GeBUl2NWKu%2BqlbyoR2vk6WA%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DT.Albaladejo._The_Pragmatic_Nature_of_Di.pdf 3.) http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0957926599010004004

Hanhim7 (talk) 00:11, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Kairos Lead Edit

Honestly, the lead on the current Kairos article isn't bad. I would keep the beginning of it and simply add more detail about what else the article will contain.

"Kairos (καιρός) is an Ancient Greek word meaning the right, critical, or opportune moment.[1]...The ancient Greeks had two words for time: chronos (χρόνος) and kairos...While chronos is quantitative, kairos has a qualitative, permanent nature.[2]" I would keep these features, in this order for the beginning of the lead.

Next:

Kairos was essential the the development of rhetoric. Both Aristotle and the Sophists had different beliefs about what kairos meant and how it could best be applied. Aristotle believed kairos was the moment when proof was delivered in a speech or presentation. While the Sophists believed that kairos meant that information had to be presented in a certain order at a certain to be most effective. Modern rhetorical definitions combine the two beliefs. Today, kairos is applied in all fields, including science, philosophy, and rhetoric. The definition has not changed drastically, in that it still generally means that there is a time, order, and manner of execution that makes information most effective for audiences. However, the manner of finding kairos has expanded and changed over time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanhim7 (talk • contribs) 02:06, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Improving the kairos article

What's already in the article is not bad information. It just doesn't offer enough. -History -Kairos in rhetoric -Kairos in other subjects, like philosophy, science, composition, etc. -Kairos in the bible -How the definition of Kairos has changed -Modern kairos -Finding kairos -Influence in the field of discourse -Use of kairos outside of academic fields

There are a few things I think could be added or expanded on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanhim7 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Kairos Editing

Under the heading for the modern definition of kairos, I think that we need to make it definition(s). Kairos isn't really a hotly debated topic in terms of what it means but, for example, James E. Porter says: "The rhetorical term kairos refers to timing, to the appropriate time to deliver a discourse but also to the appropriateness of the discourse for its occasion (its audience, its immediate context, its historical and cultural context)." Something else that I think would be important to consider is the addition of headings like Kairos in Science (or another field). A Rhetoric of Doing: Essays on Written Discourse in Honor of James L. Kinneavy has an article about kairos in science and it adds a whole new dimension to the article. Furthermore, I think that the first paragraph of the article could be improved, per my other sandbox listing.Rhetoric and Kairos: Essays in History, Theory, and Praxis edited by Phillip Sipiora, James S. Baumli seems like a really good source. Hanhim7 (talk)