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St Donat's Castle scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the St Donat's Castle article has been scheduled as today's featured article for October 16, 2018. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 16, 2018, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:33, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Changes made and article ready for resubmission[edit]

Request on 11:08:45, 19 September 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Sagarshah28[edit]

Hello KJP1,

Thank you for the review, I have made the necessary changes and have updated the article.

Kindly do the needful.

Sagarshah28 (talk) 11:08, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sagarshah28 - Hi, and thanks for getting back in touch. I'm afraid I'm no longer involved in Afc so won't be able to re-review your draft. However, if you ask at the Helpdesk, I'm sure somebody will be able to do so. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 12:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sandringham House[edit]

Congratulations and well done! I know what a trial FAC can sometimes turn into. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 17:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RexxS - Many thanks. Really appreciated your support, and your suggestions which definitely improved the article. That FAC did turn into a bit of a marathon! I shall look for a less contentious subject for the next, although I have to say I didn't anticipate Sandringham would raise temperatures quite as much as it did. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 20:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Have your say![edit]

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Unfortunately I've not had the chance to review all the punctuation in the article, but I will do so at some point today. I would say the MOS is wrong in this situation. Punctuation does not always have to come outside the speech marks, and probably shouldn't do so if the quoted passage ends with a comma or full stop in the original source. It's up to us to make our writing fit with the quote as-is. – PeeJay 07:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

PeeJay2K3 - No worries, I doubt anyone else will notice! This is helpful, MOS:INOROUT, but I appreciate you'll know it already. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 07:24, 1 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Survivor review[edit]

Hi, I wanted to see if you were interested in giving that draft article Draft:The Survivor (2016) another review? I think I've gotten the editor to reformat it so that it doesn't have those embedded links, and he's added some sources. It should have two reviews independent of the subject now. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:11, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AngusWOOF - Hi, I’m afraid I’m not involved in AFC anymore, so I’m not able to help. KJP1 (talk) 16:31, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No worries. I added a review that shows the motivations of the filmmakers (trying to get the kid into college and funded). I'll go ahead and accept but the COI tag will stay there for a bit. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:54, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Review Needed[edit]

Kindly review asap on urgent basis Pak-MI (talk) 12:53, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk page message[edit]

Please stop commenting and harassing another user who has had real life privacy concerns surrounding their renaming. Multiple oversighters have suppressed that information, and there are good reasons for it (I have not, but several have looked at it and suppressed.) TonyBallioni (talk) 20:29, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

TonyBallioni Harassing can often be a two-way street, Tony. KJP1 (talk) 20:31, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Do explain... Nick (talk) 20:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There's no need. KJP1 (talk) 20:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There is. You either explain yourself or I block you for making several personal attacks and disruptive editing. Your choice. Nick (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(edit conflict) Then I suggest you keep to yourself. Primefac (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)Reply[reply]
(edit conflict × 2) So, you've just accused a user of harassment and are now refusing to provide evidence of that? That's the second personal attack you've made in the last two days. stwalkerster (talk) 20:38, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not familiar with the background, but you really need to stop the way you've been interacting with her. You grave danced and then just posted oversightable information (unintentionally, I understand. The situation here is complex.) Please don't do it again. That's all I'm asking. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
TonyBallioni - Understood and there will be no further comment from me. KJP1 (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nick - As you think best. KJP1 (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Peer review?[edit]

What ho! I've got Hector Berlioz up for peer review, and would be exceedingly pleased if you could find time and disposition to look in. He was a much nicer man than my last composer FAC, that five-star sh*t Claude Debussy, and his life story is packed with incident, so I don't think you'll be bored if you dip in. Tim riley talk 21:51, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Thank you for St Donat's Castle, a "little castle in a corner of South Wales" with "quite an interesting history"! As it happens, a schloss is also pictured on the Main page, also with quite an interesting history (and a short hook after a long discussion). I am prouder, though, of this comment which I think is true. We also have in common missing friends, sadly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:28, 16 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sissinghurst Castle Garden...[edit]

...if you need a map/plan drawing for the garden, let me know - happy to help out. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:19, 18 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hchc2009 - Morning H, good to hear from you and hope you're keeping well. If you had time to do a plan, that would be absolutely great. The article really needs one, as it's close to impossible to give readers an understanding of the garden's layout without. I requested one here, Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop, but haven't had any response, and User:Chiswick Chap, the only other editor I know who can draw plans, doesn't think he'll have the time. At his suggestion, I asked the NT if they'd be willing to release one of their older versions - they've got loads - but they haven't replied. There are plenty of examples online, some particular nice ones being this, [1] - which I think is from Nigel N's 1968 guide - and this, [2] - which appears to be a reverse image of an NT one from their 2008 guide - and this [3] - from the Sissinghurst gardeners' blog. And there are loads more online. I'd really appreciate it if you had the time. Many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 07:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Right, 85% there. Should be able to send you a pre-final version for checking next weekend. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:39, 22 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hchc2009 - sorry for the delay. Am currently getting some late summer sun, and actually a fair bit of rain, in Valencia. The weekend would be great but no rush. I'm working with another editor on matters horticultural and they're doing some research on plants/names/most important etc. etc. so we won't be going to PR for a while. Many thanks again. KJP1 (talk) 16:37, 24 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
See if File:Sissinghurst Castle Garden plan - unlabelled.jpg works for you; if so, I can label up a version etc. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:02, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(talk page stalker) Wow, gorgeous map!! DBaK (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gorgeous is exactly how I'd describe it! It is beautiful and thanks a million. It does the job perfectly. If I can make one suggestion, a corresponding key, in black characters, A = The West Range, B = The Tower etc., would be perfect. I think to clutter the map with too much text would detract from it. It really is a terrific piece of work and I'm very grateful. KJP1 (talk) 22:28, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Right, see if this works for you - I've tried to keep it fairly minimal, as requested; I can make the lettering bigger, add additional ones etc. very easily if needed. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:04, 27 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

H - It looks superb and I think the lettering's just right. The only things I think could usefully be added, because they're mentioned in the text, are Erechtheum and Delos, to the North (top) and West (left) of the White Garden respectively, and the Yew Walk to the right of the Lower Courtyard. And Priest's House needs an 'S'. It is great and will really help readers. Very much appreciate your help. KJP1 (talk) 17:48, 27 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Key: A - Priest's House, Erecththeum and White Garden; B - Delos; C - Entrance; D - Front Courtyard and main house; E - Tower and Lower Courtyard; F - Yew Walk; G - Orchard; H - Rose Garden; I - Lime Walk; J - South Cottage and Kitchen Garden; K - Moat Walk and Azaleas; L - Nuttery; M - Herb Garden

Right, updated - I'll slot into the article now, but obviously feel free to move around etc., and any issues, just drop me a line. Best of luck at FAC! Hchc2009 (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It’s fantastic. Looking at Gardens of Versailles, I’m thinking of giving it its own section. Thanks again, it’s really appreciated. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 10:08, 28 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem, glad to be able to help. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Do ye know...[edit]

...of any template for CADW listed buildings referencing, or where we could get one built? A la the simple HE one? I can't abide that British listed Buildings site, and "" is so long! Happy Welsh wanderings... No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:11, 19 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm afraid not. I just use template: historic site which seems to work ok. KJP1 (talk) 16:39, 24 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Tony Holkham can you help with "template for CADW listed buildings referencing"? If not, do you know anyone in any Wales project that might?SovalValtos (talk) 19:29, 28 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think I can help. Perhaps the WP:Help Desk? Sorry. I know BLB is not a perfect source, but they do give refs that can be followed. Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:35, 28 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BT Tower[edit]

Hi thanks for the feedback, am working on correctly a lot of fundamental stuff such as the official opening date. Personally it looks like the rumour of it being an official secret seems to have been unnecessarily furthered by the wiki page given the almost identical sentences people are quoting, even the BT web site has similar language, Butlins themselves were publishing the address from early ' you think it's time to remove that sentence or move it to being referred to as a rumour?

Irrelevant addition before passing on to blatant importuning, below: I had one of my two 21st-birthday parties in the Post Office Tower restaurant in 19-mind-your-own-business. Rather a waste of time as it was an exceptionally foggy day and you couldn't see a damn' thing. Meanwhile... Tim riley talk 17:03, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(talk page stalker) About ten years ago I was thrilled to be sent on a technical seminar there. I can't even remember the general area of the subject matter but, my word, the views ... DBaK (talk) 23:27, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

...I have HB up for FAC, and if you care to look in, or – dare I ask? – do a source review... Yours shamelessly, Tim riley talk 17:03, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tim riley - It would be my pleasure. I'll stop fiddling with Sissinghurst, drop by Shergar and then get on to it. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:26, 3 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you review our changes to a corporate page?[edit]

Dear person, You have reviewed our company page submit here:

And rejected it because it lacked references.We've added references. But, how can we resubmit the page? Can you check to see if it follows the guidelines? Can we do this elsewhere?

Kind regards and thank you for your help!

Dekraan (talk) 08:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dekraan - I'm afraid I'm no longer involved in AfC and so am unable to help. But you can resubmit the draft at any time. KJP1 (talk) 08:56, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
KJP1 - Thanks for your quick reply! Can you tell me how I can resubmit a page? I couldn't find a button of any sorts, anywhere on the draftpage.
Dekraan - You've managed to find it, I see. KJP1 (talk) 06:48, 9 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

**{{Ingratiating spam alert}}**[edit]

Reference your comment here, you're absolutely correct. Bloody rude, actually. If you do happen to be on the lookout for a peer review at which the nominator hangs onto your every word, basking in the reflected glory that your attendance brings with it, then maybe look in at WP:Peer review/William de Ros, 6th Baron de Ros/archive1, at your own leisure, which hopefully you might find interesting without being overly hard work? Hope all is well. ——SerialNumber54129 14:33, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It would be my pleasure. I’m down in Monmouthshire for a few days, in pursuit of images for the 25-odd remaining Grade II* listed buildings without them, but I shall certainly look in. KJP1 (talk) 14:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's very kind, thanks! I was wary of asking, as, joking or not, it does feel rather spammy. It's just that it doesn't look like it'll be getting much traction any time soon. I hope Monmouthshire is both business and pleasure; I was in Abergavenny a few years back, using it for a (very truncated) tour of castles. It's a lovely part of the world. And thirst-quenching too after a day in the ruins! ——SerialNumber54129 15:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Many thanks![edit]

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For providing traction to tractionless William! ——SerialNumber54129 15:50, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My pleasure entirely. I look forward to seeing the noble lord at FAC. KJP1 (talk) 13:08, 2 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note to self[edit]

Grace Darling memorial - Salvin

Precious anniversary[edit]

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Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 2 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's very nice. KJP1 (talk) 13:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nominations now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards[edit]

Nominations for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards are open until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2018. Why don't you nominate the editors who you believe have made a real difference to the project in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey! Long time no speak! I'm back after a bit of a break, and I've been working on Leicester. It's almost finished; I'm just going to go through and see if there's anything I can add from the various biographies of Lutyens just to make sure I've satisfied 1c, then I'll probably put it up for A-class review at MilHist in the next day or three. If you have a chance to flip through it to make sure it makes sense I'd really appreciate it. I'd also be interested in any thoughts on the images—there were quite a lot to choose from (I was blessed with a gloriously sunny day two summers ago!) and I'd like to have included more but I can't find room to fit any more in neatly. What are you working on at the minute? All the best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:40, 15 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

HJ Mitchell - Harry, great to hear from you and good to know you're keeping well. Shall certainly have a look at Leicester. I'm currently doing a joint effort on Sissinghurst Castle Garden which I think is turning out quite nicely. All the best and take care. KJP1 (talk) 06:45, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Wishing you all the best for x-mass. Another excellent year of article work from you. Ceoil (talk) 19:05, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ceoil - Thank you! And a very Happy Christmas to you and yours. I'm aware that we've had a difference of views on a recent FAC issue. But I really appreciate the fact we can have differing opinions without falling out! To me, that's key to successful collaboration on here. Your contributions continue to amaze and delight, and you were the first to spot an absolute star, here. All the best for 2019. KJP1 (talk) 21:41, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
KJP1, I don't see it like that and have never been one to see a spat stand in the way of longer comradey and friendship. Ceoil (talk) 23:44, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merry Christmas![edit]

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you! Julemotiv tegnet av Jenny Nystrøm (24207687988).jpg

May 2019 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!

All the best

Gavin / SchroCat (talk) 21:36, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gavin - many thanks and all the very best to you and yours. KJP1 (talk) 17:38, 24 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda[edit]

Dear Martin, thank you so much and all best wishes for the season to you and yours. I might be asking you to get out with your camera in 2019. We are only about 8 images off a full house on Monmouthshire’s Grade II*s. KJP1 (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Guild Chapel, Stratford-upon-Avon/JB statue[edit]

Betjeman award - for later KJP1 (talk) 22:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for your peer review on Cannabis in Vatican City that I just noticed a few days late! It's my first time with such a process as well as a little per project sort of page. I truly appreciate it! Also similar belated Merry Christmas! ~Sıgehelmus♗(Tøk) 22:21, 28 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sigehelmus - Your wholesale reversion of two days ago, with the summary, "Some of these copyedits are errors", makes this ring a little hollow. Good luck with your article. KJP1 (talk) 01:30, 29 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@KJP1: I'm so sorry I didn't even notice it was you, I was going to revert My revert :( please forgive me! Thank you for your advice I'll use!-~Sıgehelmus♗(Tøk) 01:56, 29 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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