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Administrators' newsletter – January 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).
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- Following an RFC, Wikipedia:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
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- The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.
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- Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.
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Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page had it). My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
... and today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Today, between many who just died, Tobias Kratzer on his 45th birthday who was good for an unusual DYK mentioning a Verdi opera in 2018, - you can see his work in the trailer of another one that I saw, and my talk page has a third (but by a different director). 2025 pics, finally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
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Interested in participating in an interview study regarding LLMs?
[edit]Dear @Snow Rise,
It is our pleasure to invite you to join a study at the University of Minnesota! The objective of the study is to understand how large language models (LLMs) impact the collaborative knowledge production process, by investigating knowledge contributors’ interactions with LLMs in practice.
If you have used LLMs (e.g., GPT, Llama, Claude...) in the process of contributing to Wikipedia (eg. grammar check, finding resources, writing scripts...), we’d love to join the study! You will be engaging in a 45-60 min interview, talking and reflecting about your experience with Wikipedia and your perception/usage of LLMs in Wikipedia. Your valuable input will not only help us understand practical ways to incorporate LLMs into the knowledge production process, but also help us generate guardrails about these practices. All participation would be anonymous.
In addition, if you know any editor who may have used LLMs during their edits, we highly appreciate it if you could share their contact with us, as we can reach out to them.
To learn more, please feel free to start a chat with me in email or take a look at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:How_LLMs_impact_knowledge_production_processes or direcly sign up: https://umn.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_bqIjhNRg9Zqsuvs
Thank you so much for your time and consideration!
All the best, LLMs and knowledge production Research Team Phoebezz22 (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2025
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- Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
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Administrators' newsletter – March 2025
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- A request for comment is open to discuss whether AI-generated images (meaning those wholly created by generative AI, not human-created images modified with AI tools) should be banned from use in articles.
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- A new filter has been added to the Special:Nuke tool, which allows administrators to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. T378488
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- The 2025 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, Arcticocean, Ameisenigel, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, Galahad, Nehaoua, Renvoy, Revi C., RoySmith, Teles and Zafer as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
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Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! - We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
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Since you brough it up directly as well...
[edit]Just a couple of days ago I asked the user in question if this approach was a personal thing. It clearly wasn't and I was wrong and I apologized, but I think it's worth noting that this approach to vibes-based weighing in on AfD/RfC/ANI threads is catching other users off guard. I already feel I'm skating here on a parallel discussion or aspersions and that isn't my intent; I just felt it'd be more inflammatory to dump this comment into the ANI and it feels like this is a wide issue? The context was jumping into an AfD with WP:SYNTH concerns and saying that he didn't read it but it passed WP:GNG, which wasn't actually the issue up for discussion. I was concerned that this was a bit personal after basically the same thing at an ANI which had the same issues of not responding to the policy concerns.
Also, since you're active, is there any chance you'd be able to look at the situation that appears to have blown up at the Mars Task Force that appears to be this issue on steroids? Link to the Mars Task Force thread, I left a summary of it on Valaree's page. If I'm across a line for discussing without pinging please let me know, I've always found it a bit tricky to navigate general comments with that standard appropriately and it's not my intention to violate it. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 12:18, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Warren. I'm afraid I don't feel capable of giving you a clear indication as to whether it is appropriate to raise these concerns here without a ping to Randy, as I don't think there's an outright policy standard on that question, and I lack enough understanding of the overall context of the inter-connected disputes and discussions to know how existing conduct guidelines apply. That said, I do feel confident in saying this: you should absolutely anticipate that anything you say about another community member in user space will get back to them sooner, rather than later. The project is very transparent in that way. Further, any time one is disputing a point on ANI, they can be confident their user page is getting a few extra views.
- Regarding this cluster of disputes, I would like to say first off that I think I can further confirm the conclusion you have already reached: I think it is unlikely that Randy's presence in that collection of discussions was anything more than coincidence, based on my (admittedly not huge) prior experience of him. For one thing, topics concerning western/new age mysticism are a particular interest for Randy, from what I have seen, so it is unsurprising that he would have found his way to that AfD. Additionally, from what I have seen in the past, Randy, though certainly not adverse to some degree of conflict, is not the sort to keep engaging with previous opponents out of sheer mendacity. I won't say that he doesn't inhabit high conflict areas or that he doesn't sometimes dig his heels in, because I've seen him do that at a number of discussions in article space that I landed on via RfC/FRS notices, and at ANI. I have at times observed his conduct in such discussions to be suboptimal in one way or another. But he also has a habit (laudable and well-advised) of only going against consensus so far, and then dropping the matter once resistance hits a certain threshold. He is not, in my (again, somewhat limited) experience, the type of contributor to indefinitely grind an axe and look for another opportunity to stick it to a previous opponent. Rather he is just someone with strong views on sourcing that I would describe as just a little to the side of community consensus. Combined with his interest in some fringe and psuedoscientific topics (an area of perennial high conflict on this project) and you have the makings for some heated disputes. But again, my experience suggests that he does not actively seek out conflict.
- Now, as to similarities between his stances at that Drbogdan discussion and the current one at ANI: yes, I see some overlap in his perspectives at both, and I think that's a common view from him in such discussions. But I don't think there's clear disruption as an inevitable result of those views. I raised the issue with him in the current discussion because I felt some of his language was more accusational against "the other side" than it needed to be in the present instance, and because I think it's important that if the community CBANs someone, that it be for rational reasons, not because rhetorical battle lines were drawn. I'm not saying that it's impossible that these views may eventually lead him into comments that are far more disruptive, but for the moment, I think we are well out of the range of a pattern that is anywhere problematic that it needs to be formally addressed by the community. Again, he's hardly the most passive user and there are occasions where I feel he comes in needlessly hot and even a bit hostile, but an LTA he is not.
- Lastly, regarding your request concerning the Mars Task Force, I feel that it would be inappropriate for me to involve myself there, under the circumstances. Given that I just criticized him for his rhetoric at the ANI discussion, he would be unlikely to perceive my entry into a separate dispute at your request as good faith, and I would thus be unable to work towards any constructive resolution of the issues there. Besides which, I have no particularly strong experience with editing that subject matter on Wikipedia--though, as the world's number one Carl Sagan "stan" (as I believe today's kids say), I have followed developments of the scientific exploration of the planet through the years. So if the FRS system summons me there, I would probably follow that notice, but otherwise I think it is best I not get involved.
- I hope I do not disappoint you too much. I appreciate that you are reaching out looking for a sympathetic ear, and yes, as far as it goes, I can understand why you might have been frustrated by some aspects of Randy's approach to those discussions (or what I saw of them, anyway). But Randy has faced relatively few sanctions as a result of his slightly idiosyncratic approach to sourcing and his occasional snarkiness, for a reason: because he knows not to push things too far and usually catches himself before he wrecks himself (as I believe the kinds from the previous generation were wont to say). I can't tell you with absolute authority that you should back away from further engagement with him at this time, because for all I know, you may have legitimate reasons for your concerns. But I think you will find that if you do back up, he will not keep seeking out reasons to engage with you. It just is not his style, as far as I have ever observed.
- Best of luck, and if I can assist you in other matters, the door to this talk page is always figuratively open. For as long as I remain here, in any event. SnowRise let's rap 19:13, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Pun
[edit]Well, we can't be too surprised. Wolf 320 literally produces more heat than light.
This is officially the most obscure joke I have ever seen in my life. Both on and off wiki. I don't know if you should be proud or ashamed of yourself. LakesideMinersCome Talk To Me! 20:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'll admit to having confronted that same uncertainty even as I posted it. :D. The human brain is a funny thing. Astronomy is not my professional field of inquiry, but a lifetime of fascination with it has committed a non-trivial number of memory neurons. When I saw the combination of 'Wolf' and a three-digit number, there was just no way that I was not going to be put in mind of Max Wolf's proper motion star catalog, which includes mostly red dwarfs (low levels of light, relative to their heat output as stellar types go). And it was just days ago that I happened to be opining about how discussions "generating more heat than light" had become a go-to turn-of-phrase in project space in recent years. Somehow, in that perfect storm of circumstances, and within the gumbo that is my thought processes, those random associations all just snapped together. In what I can assure you is a lifetime with a number of groan-inducing puns, I will say this one stands apart in its audacity and the grasping reach of it's reference points, but man did I ever feel teed-up for it by that combination of name and circumstance. If this ends up being my last major terrible joke here, I'll stand by it as a representative of what I do and do not bring to the virtue of levity. :) Thanks for stopping by, Lakeside; I appreciate it.SnowRise let's rap 05:23, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
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Randy Kryn ANI
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 14:56, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Out here over tagging
- It seems I’m acting witless
- I don’t see beef in you
- I just saw another witness
- I’ll just leave you be
- to rest in ease
- I’ll get back to the ANI disasterpiece
- 🎤 Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 19:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yo Warren, hope I don't come off terse
- --been a spell since I spat a verse.
- Certainly don't regard us as adverse,
- but it's been a long day,
- and tomorrow's looking worse.
- Yo Warren, hope I don't come off terse
- So, I won't tell you not to do,
- what you feel that you gotta do
- --if you're certain you've been left no room.
- But on those issues,
- afraid I just don't have that zoom.
- So, I won't tell you not to do,
- I hope you find relief,
- if that's what you're looking for,
- having opened up that Incidents door,
- no telling what's in store,
- So, stretch to keep AGF at the core.
- I hope you find relief,
- SnowRise let's rap 07:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- I spent about five minutes trying to write this one in rhyme: would you object to hatting the exchange between us on the ANI? It doesn't seem like that exchange is going to be critical to the ANI and I don't want yet another ANI where admins decide there's already too many words there to read... Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 11:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- SnowRise let's rap 07:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Well, some things are better spelled out in any event. Personally I would not support the hatting: the issues may not appear 'critical', but the discussion is on point as regards the issues you've raised, and thus does not really fall within the scope of what hatting is typically used for in a behavioural discussion. Beyond that, I'll tell you also that I don't think the hatting would be advisable for your position. It would very likely be perceived, by Randy at a minimum, and probably others, as an attempt to whitewash the record of something that might call your perspective into question--which was not the point of my response, but even so, that's a risk. Just as many people who take any degree of interest in the discussion are going to read the hatted content, especially given it would be of the first response to your post, so all the hatting will accomplish is to underline the content and provide potential grist for the mill against your position. As to the length of the discussion, I would not be overly concerned with that, as there is really no avoiding it, given your objective: by and large, any ANI discussion that results in a sanction (even a mutual IBAN) against a well-established editor is going to end up being of substantial size first. Especially where, as here, the issues require a close read to reach a determination. Just my food for thought, but I think you'd be doing your position a disservice if you attempted to hat. My response is much more likely to be given the appropriate amount of weight and fade into the background of the overall discussion if you leave it as is, I am fairly confident. SnowRise let's rap 18:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2025).
Administrator changes
Rusalkii
NaomiAmethyst (overlooked last month)
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- Following an RfC, administrator elections were permanently authorized on a five-month schedule. The next election will be scheduled soon; see Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections for more information. This is an alternate process to the RfA process and does not replace the latter.
- An RfC was closed with consensus to allow editors to opt-out of seeing "sticky decorative elements". Such elements should now be wrapped in {{sticky decoration wrapper}}. Editors who wish to opt out can follow the instructions at WP:STICKYDECO.
- An RfC has resulted in a broad prohibition on the use of AI-generated images in articles. A few common-sense exceptions are recognized.
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- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2025 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!
Possible oops
[edit]I tried to restore a subsection title at WP:ANI which I believe was misformatted by your last edit. But now I don't actually think you even meant to post it right there. Perhaps you want to have another look, sorry. On a side note, do you think you could make your posts a wee bit more concise in general? ---Sluzzelin talk 23:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, duh me! I think you accidentally posted it twice (my removal. So you can ignore everything, including my comment on length of posts (though you are also welcome to embrace it! Peace!) ---Sluzzelin talk 23:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, how odd: I'm not sure how that would have happened, but I appreciate you removing the redundancy, especially if it really was introduced in my original edit. I'll keep the observation/request about verbosity in mind: I'm not sure either my posts today qualifies as overlong, especially in the circumstances, but I can't deny that as a more general matter my observations can contain verbiage above the average--and that's obviously sometimes less than ideal in threads that are already tipping the scales. SnowRise let's rap 23:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles for Creation backlog drive
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Hello Snow Rise:
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive in June!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 1 month of outstanding reviews from the current 3+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 June 2025 through 30 June 2025.
You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.
Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
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Reasons to look at Bach (and listen): it's a recent GA (not by me), he assumed the position of Thomaskantor OTD in 1723, he's up for PR, and several of his cantatas for GA, and his Easter Oratorio for FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2025).
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- An RfC is open to determine whether the English Wikipedia community should adopt a position on AI development by the WMF and its affiliates.
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- A new feature called Multiblocks will be deployed on English Wikipedia on the week of June 2. See the relevant announcement on the administrators' noticeboard.
- History merges performed using the mergehistory special page are now logged at both the source and destination, rather than just the source as previously, after this RFC and the resolution of T118132.
Arbitration
- An arbitration case named Indian military history has been opened. Evidence submissions for this case close on 8 June.
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- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) election is open until 17 June 2025. Read the voting page on Meta-Wiki and cast your vote here!
- An Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in June 2025, with over 1,600 drafts awaiting review from the past two months. In addition to AfC participants, all administrators and new page patrollers can help review using the Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
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Stravinsky pictured on his birthday + Vienna pics - but too many who died -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
... and today look at the autograph of Beethoven's last piano sonata and listen to the pianist who wanted to serve the compositions most of all - thank you for support in the RfC that I am determined to overlook! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
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