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Tech News: 2025-23

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2025).

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  • An RfC is open to determine whether the English Wikipedia community should adopt a position on AI development by the WMF and its affiliates.

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Arbitration

  • An arbitration case named Indian military history has been opened. Evidence submissions for this case close on 8 June.

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Mi presento

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Perdonami, ma dato che in Commons hai difficoltà a capire quanto scrivo in lingua inglese, con l'aiuto di un ottimo traduttore, ti assicuro, lascio questo messaggio in italiano lasciando a te l'onere della traduzione. Ovviamente non puoi conoscermi, sia perché anagraficamente sei molto più giovane di me sia perché non frequentando, ovviamente, la comunità italiofona di wikipedia non sai che ho iniziato a scrivere di aviazione su it.wiki quanto tu avevi ancora solo sei anni (anche se in realtà la mia iscrizione è del 2006). Questo per dirti che so bene la differenza tra una variante di un Tupolev e un'altra, e se in buona fede pensi che se un utente (io) non sia abbastanza preparato per discutere della problematicità di un'immagine a tema aviazione, beh, basta che tu dia un'occhiata ai miei contributi, basta un click. Ribadisco il concetto che un'immagine dev'essere al servizio del lettore, rispettando un'autenticità, e vedendo ogni tanto negli anni l'esigenza di qualcuno di inserire immagini di anteprime di modelli di aereo ancora poco noti non sia un buon servizio, esattamente come quello di generare facili immagini istruendo IA a supporto di eventi come, restando a tema aviazione, incidenti aerei. Una cosa è utilizzare immagini che spiegano le dinamiche dell'incidente, un altro è creare un'immagine fasulla che riproduca gli effetti dell'incidente; equivale a una Ricerca originale, e IMO è un cancro nel mondo dell'informazione, tanto più su un progetto che è un'enciclopedia. PS: carine le Wikiwings, le tue te le hanno conferite in data 11 giugno 2021, le mie non so dove siano finite nel cassetto, la prima barnstar me l'hanno comunque data nel 2008 (però, diciamocelo, sono tutte medaglie di legno). Buona vita. Threecharlie (talk) 08:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Threecharlie Credo ci sia stato un malinteso. Sto usando Google Translate per scrivere questo e l'ho usato per tradurre il tuo messaggio. Diverse parti del tuo messaggio mi sono sembrate volgari, ma presumo che non ci fosse alcuna intenzione di esserlo, quindi lo considererò un errore di traduzione. Sappi che non ho alcuna intenzione di essere volgare nemmeno in questo messaggio, nel caso in cui dovesse apparire tale.
Non sono d'accordo con la tua valutazione dell'immagine. Non ho riscontrato assolutamente alcun segno comune di generazione o manipolazione da parte dell'IA. Le argomentazioni che hai fornito finora non sono state convincenti. Inoltre, se l'immagine fosse stata creata o manipolata dall'IA, mi aspetterei che analisti ed esperti qualificati di IA traessero tali conclusioni, data la sua ampia diffusione sui media. - ZLEA T\C 09:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-24

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:14, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
2025
1 — 31 May
Volume 3 — Issue 5
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News
Article of the month
Artist's impression of the Mars Odyssey spacecraft

2001 Mars Odyssey is a robotic spacecraft orbiting the planet Mars. The project was developed by NASA, and contracted out to Lockheed Martin, with an expected cost for the entire mission of US$297 million. Its mission is to use spectrometers and a thermal imager to detect evidence of past or present water and ice, as well as study the planet's geology and radiation environment. The data Odyssey obtains is intended to help answer the question of whether life once existed on Mars and create a risk-assessment of the radiation that future astronauts on Mars might experience. It also acts as a relay for communications between the Curiosity rover, and previously the Mars Exploration Rovers and Phoenix lander, to Earth. The mission was named as a tribute to Arthur C. Clarke, evoking the name of his and Stanley Kubrick's 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Odyssey was launched April 7, 2001, on a Delta II rocket from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, and reached Mars orbit on October 24, 2001, at 02:30 UTC (October 23, 19:30 PDT, 22:30 EDT). As of March 2025, it is still collecting data, and is estimated to have enough propellant to function until the end of 2025. It currently holds the record for the longest-surviving continually active spacecraft in orbit around a planet other than Earth, ahead of the Pioneer Venus Orbiter (served 14 years) and the Mars Express (serving over 20 years), at 23 years, 7 months and 30 days. As of October 2019 it is in a polar orbit around Mars with a semi-major axis of about 3,800 km or 2,400 miles.

Image of the month
International Space Station after LF1

Starting with Zarya in November 1998, the assembly of the International Space Station continued on a regular basis until the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, which resulted in a nearly three-year pause from November 2002 to July 2005. This image shows the ISS following the installation of the second External stowage platform. ESP-2 was launched on 26 July 2005 on board Discovery as part of STS-114.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 209. Total number of members: 434.

May Launches
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  1. United States Starship — 8 Starlink Simulators (27 May at 23:36:28 UTC) (partial failure)
  2. China Long March 4BTianwen-2 (28 May at 04:00 UTC) (success)
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Monthly Changes

Since April 2025, three new mid-importance, nine new low-importance, and three new unknown-importance articles have been created, for a total of 15 new articles. There is also one less B-class article, 14 more C-class articles, six more Start-class articles, four less Stub-class articles, and three more lists.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Removing airliner specifications for no reason

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No point in continuing this

I’m noticing that this user is removing what he calls “excess” information on pages for aircraft, notably in the specifications sections. As an aircraft enthusiast I can say on behalf of others like me some of that information is incredibly useful. Notably in the case of the Boeing 737 removals information on the 737-100 can’t be found anywhere else, similar situation with the 707, now there’s no pages with info on any variant but the -320B. I understand that to the typical viewer it may seem excess, but to me here’s how I’m breaking it down: 90% of people looking at these articles are aircraft enthusiasts and want to see all of this information. The other 10% viewing these articles aren’t viewing it for specifications, they’re just glossing over it. Planeandaquariumgeek (talk) 07:10, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Planeandaquariumgeek My edits are to bring the articles in line with WP:AIRSPECS, which has been the standard for over two decades. The tables were added later against consensus and never supposed to be there. Unfortunately, their presence has encouraged the false notion that Wikipedia is meant to be a quick reference for aircraft variant specifications rather than an encyclopedia. We need to put an end to that before the problem worsens. - ZLEA T\C 15:52, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Such tables existing does not present any such notion. There is zero harm at all in them existing here, and by removing them you are actively making Wikipedia worse. Electricmemory (talk) 03:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Go bud! Planeandaquariumgeek (talk) 03:38, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, I have no interest in the demographics of the readers (which you give absolutely no evidence for, by the way). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for everyone. We aren't a quick reference for aircraft specs because some readers might want them. Most aviation encyclopedias only include one set of specs for an entire aircraft type because it gives the reader an idea of what is typical for that type. Other resources exists for readers who want more. - ZLEA T\C 16:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to remove it if it already exists. AIRSPECS and whatever can go to hell. You are erasing valuable information purely because a style guide written by one person twenty years ago claims it shouldn't be there. Electricmemory (talk) 03:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, that’s my point. Do all of Wikipedia a favor and start reverting this moron’s edits. Planeandaquariumgeek (talk) 03:38, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately it's not that simple. Electricmemory (talk) 03:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, but that is a start. Planeandaquariumgeek (talk) 04:02, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at your talk page you don't have a stellar record yourself. Despite my opinion on this I know better than to just revert everything immediately. Electricmemory (talk) 04:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was an idiot at one point, and I’m still what many would consider a rookie for sure. That being said a more experienced editor should definitely handle this and it seems you’re just that. Planeandaquariumgeek (talk) 05:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 230, June 2025

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Tech News: 2025-25

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:36, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AIRMOS

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Ignoring consensus will get you nowhere

Seriously, what the hell is your issue with aircraft specs?? If a table for example on the 737 MAX contains sourced information for all variants, why does that matter?? Some people are indeed using Wikipedia to browse for that sort of thing, and others who aren't are not affected by its presence whatsoever. I don't give a flying fuck about some style guide written twenty years ago that you steadfastly stand by despite it plainly being wrong... Electricmemory (talk) 03:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, you're changes well-rounded tables to specs templates that are just worse in every way possible. You're doing so without any regard for the actual content or look of the section. Electricmemory (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Electricmemory I don't give a flying fuck about some style guide written twenty years ago that you steadfastly stand by despite it plainly being wrong... You do realize that your personal preference does not override a 20+ year old consensus, right? Feel free to start a WP:ANI discussion if you feel I've broken some policy by adhering to a long-standing consensus. - ZLEA T\C 04:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Scratch that, it seems I will be taking you to ANI tomorrow morning. Such a blatant involved close will not be tolerated. - ZLEA T\C 05:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]