Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Sinh

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User:Sinh

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Sinh (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

83.38.117.197 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Pedro82 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Report submission by

Drjsveca 01:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

Using IP to pretend to be two different people and then using two accounts to change the signature.[1]

Comments

One person pretending to be three different people.

There are people that live en the same home ¬¬ Sinh is my cousin and he has been living in my house for a year. I normally do not participate in Wikipedia, that edition was the first one. We wrote consecutively our opinions in the discussion page. Unsigned editions are mine when I was not registered or when I was not loginned. And Drjsveca also used his IP (71.127.212.103) in this article when he was not registered ¬¬ --Pedro82 14:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Comment by uninvolved non-admin) The scenario described by Pedro82 is pretty unlikely. An analysis of their contributions shows that, if what Pedro82 says is true:

October 3 (all times UTC)

21:25 - 21:35 Pedro82 comments on talk page as IP, self-described first edit to Wikipedia
23:48 Sinh comments on talk page as IP
23:49 Sinh logs in, changes sig on his IP comment
23:50 Sinh logs out, Pedro sits down, creates account
23:51 Pedro changes sig on his IP comment, logs out
23:53 Sinh logs in, makes minor spelling change to his comment

Further, on October 4

12:06-12:27 after Drjsveca changes their sigs back to the IP, Pedro82 logs in, changes sigs back
12:36 Pedro82 logs out, then leaves comment on Drjsveca talk page
12:58 Pedro82, a new user, finds the un-announced sock report and comments (still logged out)
14:18-15:32 Pedro82 logs in, fixes sigs from previous two posts, makes add'l comment

In addition:

Pedro82 is, so far, a single purpose account, editing two related articles that Sinh has been having conflicts in.
Both Pedro and Sinh occasionally use the strange character string ¬¬ in their edit summaries or comments
It should be noted that this sockpuppetry, or (at best) meatpuppetry is being used on Tekken 6 to avoid 3RR in a revert war.
It should be noted that Drjsveca, along with his previous IP address, has also violated 3RR on Tekken 6.

--barneca (talk) 17:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see [2] β^_command 20:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I never had entered in Wikipedia. Sinh showed me Tekken 6 article, we didn't agree with the text and I edited it (I was not registered). I wrote my opinion in the discussion page, then Sinh wrote his opinion. Later, Sinh put its signature to avoid problems. He advised me and I did the same (I registered my user for that).

Since I am registered, I always enter with Sinh (also now). He showed me this page. It's difficult, we must change the user constantly if both want to participate. That day, the problem was these difficulty.

By the way, ¬¬ is a known emoticon like :-) or :-(. It indicates indignation or annoyance. I really don't use it, it was a Sinh's idea. He likes using emoticons. --Pedro82 20:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did not violate 3RR. I created this account to make this report. Drjsveca 02:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You violated 3RR with your previous IP address (71.127.212.103) and with your new account (Drjsveca), three revert rule in current editing dispute.--Pedro82 03:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did not break the technical rule of making more than three reverts in 24 hours. You were reverting edits made by at least two different people, including a sysop. Drjsveca 19:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

What convinced me that this is a sock case vice three people in the same house who just happen to agree is that just 14 or so hours after creating his account, Pedro82 just happened to find Sinh's sock case--this is virtually impossible for a brand new legit user. Pedro82 is indeed a sock of Sinh or if he is a legit user, Sinh was telling him what to do. Rlevse 02:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]