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Naming of New Jersey Towns

Serious question about New Jersey naming on Wikipedia. Does the MOS explicitly say that the artcile for a town has to be "xxx township", instead of just "xxx" town. Winterysteppe (talk) 17:11, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

• Winterysteppe, there is no such requirement that I've seen in the MOS. In those states with townships, the standard is to use the "xxx Township, New Jersey" format (usually with the county included as a disambiguator), such as at Category:Townships in Illinois, Category:Townships in Indiana, Category:Townships in Iowa, Category:Townships in Kansas, Category:Townships in Michigan and Category:Townships in Pennsylvania. We're far more relaxed on that standard in New Jersey, and the titles for most articles (townships included) have been stable for a decade or longer. Some townships always use the "xxx Township, New Jersey" format, for various reasons, such as to differentiate between a doughnut municipality with the same name (e.g. Chester Township, New Jersey / Chester Borough, New Jersey) or because that's the standard usage (e.g. all of the places named Washington Township, New Jersey) or because there is a neighborhood that shares the same name in or outside the township. There are plenty of townships that don't use that format, such as Irvington, New Jersey and West Milford, New Jersey. There are other situations where it may be appropriate to add or remove the word "township" from the article title, but that should only be done after obtaining clear consensus. WT:NJ is a wonderful place to go to in order to maximize participation, but the better way to do this would be to come up with an overall schema rather than one township at a time. Alansohn (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Alansohn Ah a very good explanation. It would seem good that the standards are relaxed as you said although it 100% does not affect the pages at all. I'll go to WT:NJ and propose Whether is appropriate to rename some of the places to add or remove "township". . Winterysteppe (talk) 05:16, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm WilliamJE. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_April_5#Category:Mayors_of_Bergenfield.2C_New_Jersey that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:02, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

• WilliamJE, which edit is it that so offended you? Do you understand what the npa1 template is intended for? It would be rather bad form to be misrepresenting policy. Alansohn (talk) 02:51, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi @Alansohn: A Talk page discussion has been initiated at linaclotide regarding the proposed text for this article. I would welcome any input. I politely contend to you that removal of this content is consistent with WP:MEDRS policy. FeatherPluma (talk) 19:19, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Alansohn: The Talk page discussion is updated. There is a detailed explanation. WP:AGF, I am guessing that perhaps you are a bit unfamiliar with WP:MEDRS, or with its underlying reasoning and implications, or thought it did not apply, or for some reason missed the rationale in my edit summary, here, and on the Talk page. I making this guess because it would account for how you approached things. Of course, there may be some other issue that I am missing. When you have a moment, please comment further about the content in question. Thanks. FeatherPluma (talk) 22:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'm back editing after a few days offline and I will check out the discussion when I can. Alansohn (talk) 03:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello

I wanted to say Hello. I am also interested in working on NJ pages.

Wasickta (talk) 18:42, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• Wasickta, welcome aboard. Let me know if I can help with anything. Alansohn (talk) 18:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

I am new to this Wikipedia stuff. Trying to figure out if it is possible to change the article Society Hill, Middlesex County, New Jersey to be Society Hill, Piscataway, Middlesex County, New Jersey. With the current way the article is indexed, it doesn't appear on google searches. Wasickta (talk) 18:54, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Wasickta, the Wikipedia standard to name articles for places is "placename, state". If there are more than one place with the same name, it would be "place name, county, state", as was done here. Alansohn (talk) 18:58, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

So there is no way to have the word Piscataway be in the heading? Hmmm... most people would usually google "Society Hill Piscataway" and will never see this article. Shame Wasickta (talk) 19:08, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Hey Alan, sorry to bother you. See this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_Hill,_Philadelphia. Is it possible for us to make it Society_Hill,_Piscataway? That seems more appropriate for indexing. Thanks ahead of time. Wasickta (talk) 21:10, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

The model for Society Hill, Philadelphia is only done in big cities, the kind that are known on a first name basis. I'm restoring the source at the RFHHS page, which comes from a newspaper. The website is used as host for copies of the paper. Alansohn (talk) 21:23, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

1) http://www1.gmnews.com/2004/10/13/officials-say-schools-not-affected-by-scare/ This might be a better source. The link was an archived article of a self-published newspaper. Will leave it up to your discretion. 2) How big of a city does it have to be for it to be used in that way? There are multiple Society Hills in NJ and most people know them by the city they are in(i.e Newark, Piscataway, Cherry Hill). I don't know how good of an indexing mechanism it would be to use counties when most people in our state use the city name. Wasickta (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Trenton, New Jersey/GA1

Please come here soon. I wonder if you received my ping. Thanks, Sainsf (talk · contribs) 01:49, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

• Sainsf, you were remarkably thorough in your comments. I'm a bit daunted, but I will start editing the article as soon as I can and mark up the review with my updates. Alansohn (talk) 03:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

• Don't be worried. You can work at your pace on the article, and the review will remain open so long as you keep updating it. I truly appreciate your efforts, but appears I spotted quite a few glitches. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 04:05, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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Considering your role in Teaneck politics and in NJ politics - you should really not be editing NJ articles.

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discussion?

Hi Alansohn. That COIN case went a bit sideways, but I just wanted to ask if given your RW role, which as I understand does have some power and accountabilty, you have thought through COI issues in Wikipedia? I know you have been around a long time, but we've been working on refining COI management. Just really quickly - managing COI has two steps - disclosure of the COI (ideally on your userpage) and then when you want to edit some topic where your COI is "active", proposing edits on the Talk page for others to review and implement, instead of editing directly. Doing those steps protects the integrity of Wikipedia as well as editors with a COI - defining the COI clearly lets others know where the boundaries are, and not editing directly within the boundary protects the editor from scandal. Happy to discuss any of that if you like. Best regards Jytdog (talk) 01:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

As I understand it, Alansohn has a role in local politics involving the city he lives in. I don't see that involves a conflict-of-interest that would mean avoiding any article that touches on the subject of the state of New Jersey. Every resident of the state has an opinion about state politics because we are affected by them, do we all have a conflict-of-interest?

I can see asking, not demanding, that Alansohn not edit articles involving the city where he has an official role, that this request could be justified but it's ridiculous to demand he stay away from articles on the entire state, especially given the enormous contributions he has made on Wikipedia. Every editor comes to Wikipedia with opinions and judgments but we all strive to maintain a neutral point of view and I think every editor should be allowed the benefit of the doubt, without lobbing accusations around. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:54, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Jytdog and Liz, I agree that there is a potential conflict of interest regarding aspects of one particular article. Over the past two years where this would be an issue, I have tried to avoid editing the article, certainly avoiding any aspect of editing of a political nature. It's also important to recognize that the article under discussion isn't about me, but about a place. Jytdog's suggestions are certainly appropriate and will be reflected in future action on my part, but I don't see the scope expanding beyond this one article. Any further thoughts will be appreciated. Alansohn (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

The thing that was alarming to me was Alansohn's brazenness in editing articles that showed clear conflicts of interest and will influence political outcome of this Thursdays election.

The reason why I requested an NJ topic ban is because Alan Sohn can(and is) shaping the profile pages of people that he has affiliation with or are endorsing him. He is using hidden influence in both shaping public perception of his political friends in the state and his adversaries. Wasickta (talk) 02:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC) Wasickta (talk) 02:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Wasickta, you've done more than enough damage for one day. Present your evidence elsewhere and stay off this talk page. Alansohn (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

If they don't care of this, I will take it to Asbury Park Press- don't worry. Wasickta (talk) 02:27, 4 May 2016 (UTC) Wasickta (talk) 02:27, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

The threat is offensive, but please make sure that the APP spells my name correctly. Further such attacks, failures to respect my talk page and real world threats will be a sure path to a lengthy block. Alansohn (talk) 02:31, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

To be clear here, what I wrote is what I wrote. Alan thanks for replying. In my view you should declare your COI on your userpage, and not directly edit the article about that town but rather offer changes on the Talk page (there should be no "try" about it). Wasickta has not brought diffs and I haven't dug in and looked myself, but for your own sake - and the sake of Wikipedia's reputation - if there is anything that would have bad "optics" along the lines of what Wasickta is saying with regard to specific people or ethnic voting blocs, you best keep in mind that whole WP:Wikipedia is in the real world thing. Again, for your sake and the sake of Wikipdia's reputation. (if you unaware of how bad this can get, there was editor for BP (the oil company) who scrupulously minded the COI guideline - disclosed his COI in his username, never made a direct edit, but his work here still created a big scandal. That got caught up in some nasty wiki-politics where one faction was shovelling his proposed edits into the article and others were trying to keep them out and the press got wind of a "BP editing its own article" story (Salon, HuffPo, Motherboard - that tier of things) and it just got ugly. And the guy did nothing wrong. So just please be mindful and please don't directly edit content directly where you have RW COI issues. If you do the right thing and people get upset you can say at least "I did the right thing under the COI guideline" and have that going for you, instead of being pure "hand in the cookie jar". Jytdog (talk) 02:55, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Wasickta's claims have been removed and I never saw them. I wouldn't mind a copy, so that I can at least figure out what he's -- and by extension you are -- alleging. I'm more than mindful of your suggestions, as I've indicated previously, and will take them into account in any future editing. Alansohn (talk) 03:04, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I didn't see them either; I have asked them to post actual difs at COIN. I am reacting to what he wrote here. But I am not trying to make this about accusations. You apparently (?) got into actual government about 2 years ago and you have been a Wikipedian way longer than that. I just don't know that you ever really paused and thought through how that RW change should (?) or should not change what you do here. I thought about this kind of stuff for the last 15 years at work, so when I came here, avoiding editing where I had a COI was second nature to me, and I have a COI declaration clear as day on my user page. Anyway, I don't want to beat a horse and you will do as you will. I am here live or by email if you want to bounce stuff off me. In the meantime we can await diffs from the W. Jytdog (talk) 03:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm still unclear as to the claims, but I fail to see what he even could be referring to. I have considered the issue, perhaps not in as much detail as I will now, but I will reflect your input. Alansohn (talk) 03:32, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

"Aid and abet"

Kindly provide evidence that I am attempting to aid and abet a policy violation, rather than attempting to enforce the WP:OUTING policy against abuse. You will observe that WP:WIAPA specifically prohibits "accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence". Per the firm statement at WP:NPA, Derogatory comments about other editors may be removed by any editor, I have removed said derogatory comments; if you repeat derogatory comments and continuing making accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence, a block will be sought. Nyttend (talk) 04:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

• You point to an obscure edit a decade ago as an excuse to justify outing, and in so doing you are aiding and abetting this abuse. Thanks for the help. Alansohn (talk) 04:36, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Please don't make drama Alansohn, as tempting as it may be. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 04:52, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Create drama?!?! I've been outed and multiple editors draw attention to an innocent edit from a decade ago; you included. Time for you to get off my talk page and get lost. Alansohn (talk) 04:54, 4 May 2016 (UTC)