I certainly agree that we should make RfA great again. But the idea that it'll be the next person to RfA rather than say DanCherek with 281 supports and no opposes made me roll my eyes some. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 16:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
I certainly agree that we should make RfA great again. But the idea that it'll be the next person to RfA rather than say DanCherek with 281 supports and no opposes made me roll my eyes some. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 16:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
:It was a joke! [[User:El_C|El_C]] 16:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.
El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Romania
And all I got was this... Whoa!
I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for tagging me, El_C! Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".
I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking.El_C19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes*El_C11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have just set up an alternative account, Narky Blert (alt), so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, Narky Blert. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)
Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. El_C15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Wikipedia. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you ;) - back to Psalm 14, it looked done but looking closer, I don't get why Hebrew is shorter, and has a different beginning, and the explanation is that it's not the complete but some sort of difference. Can you check that please? - Prayer for Ukraine: I heard it as "encore" after a live opera performance from Staatsoper Hannover, sung and played with heart by the complete ensemble. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Like. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. El_C14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. El_C12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
now that's so funny: when I was about to pass 55.555 I decided that this was nonsense and began to reduce one by one, having reached 42k+ - this conductor leads an orchestra, but my grandfather was a train conductor --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Double cool! Also, I definitely agree with you: train, orchestra conductors — basically the same thing, interchangeable. El_C13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
never mind - memories: two people on DYK, both connected to Oper Frankfurt, and don't miss yesterday's video of Pink Floyd given to me! - no idea where the white line below the header comes from which is not there in preview --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
coincidence. 26 was at our church, 62 in the Tenebrae readings for last Saturday, - not working today, still Easter, biking and opera, haven't seen pics yet, but it was just beautiful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So many concerts! You're really making up for lost tyme. I hope all the members of the Kyiv Orchestra are alive and well. El_C13:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, everyone, I'll be unavailable for the next little while, but hope to be back by the end of the month at the latest. Much love! El_C14:27, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh no. Sorry to hear that, I hope you're doing okay. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. I've heard that already, it looks like (from the link being purple rather than blue), but I don't remember the context. I was gonna do 40 now, but it's long, so, soon'ish. El_C14:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm feeling fine again, first day! - One of my recurring wishes: Peter Brooks finally appeared on the Main page, 4 (!) days after he died. I'd like credit - it was the hardest of the year, and begged there already, but ... - Two composers used Psalm 40 in their choral symphonies, I didn't know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Credit. Glad to hear you're feeling better! I sort of jinxed myself yesterday with that It's Tuesday! Let's make it a laid-back one. Good one, me. Not a moment of respite since. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And will be busy for the next little while. Der Mensch Tracht, Un Gott Lacht, you know it glows! El_C18:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Now I have the complete program and a review. The program was called Salmo! - sadly not in Wiesbaden, - perhaps they thought we'd not understand it means psalm! which means sing!. I had noticed that they sang Psalms 150, 100, 84 and 149 (+ another line from 150). The review image shows the conductor even happier, imagine. It's detailed and all praise but sadly not going beyond Mendelssohn, while we found the late works especially impressive, - listen to the 2009 Locus iste by (Welsh) Mealor. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I met psalms, Psalm 107 next (too long?), and Psalm 40 still waiting I believe. - Lugnuts was banned - I didn't follow arbitration. - Martinevans is blocked for copyvio. - 2 giants missing. - See pics of highs and lows if you click on songs --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you want high, follow the link but don't look beyond 25 Jul. Thank you for psalms hope. - Copyvio happens so easily: I transferred a translation of text from source to the article, worked on it some in edit mode, but missed deleting the rest (at the end). What do you think: should the (4 more) versions that still have it get ref-del, to be "safe"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, any potential WP:COPYVIO should be WP:REVDEL'd (btw, it's revision not reference deletion). Feel free to link the diffs of the potential copyvios and I'll make em go (away). El_C15:35, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon? I linked the diff, and said it's the four revisions (well, I said versions) following. I feel sorry for the person who tried to repair a sentence from the stuff that should never have been there. That edit made me aware. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, unexpectedly tied up with something. Hopefully, for not more than a few days. These psalms will be my 1st priority once I'm back, though. El_C15:53, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Recently started Malice by John Gwynne, neither of which have an article. Popped up as a suggested book on Audible, and it was over 20 hours long so I figured I'd give it a whirl. Pretty tropey so far, but I've read worse. Can you imagine, there's a young boy who excels at fighting who is more than he seems? And there are two gods, one good and one bad who are going to have a war? Extra points for the ol' fantasy standby of "inventing the shield wall." Also gotta do rabbits tomorrow, and do some repair and maintenance on their cages after I get all the babies taken care of. Unfortunately it's supposed to be around 97f tomorrow (that's 36 in eurotherms). No work is fun when it's that hot. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:08, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nice, but what about petting Kitty?John Gwynne (author) (red link atm, looks like both it and its draft were deleted on May 2021) sounds familiar, but I'm unable place him. Only 600 pages into The Eyes of God, with 200 remaining. Taking me such a long time to finish; just been too busy, but also, though it's good, it just isn't a page turner like The Jackal of Nar. I don't know if I'll keep going with that trilogy. Thinking of getting Tailchaser's Song, actually, because... BTW, DYK that Monarchies of God's Richard Hawkwood isn't the same person as The Wheel of Time's Artur Hawkwing? Yet they both end up discovering Ameriqua? You've heard it here fifth! Also, I praise you for providing AC to all the bunnies! El_C14:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Finished up the first book in that series. It's firmly ok. Can you imagine though, tragedy struck and the boy who excelled at fighting's home was destroyed, and yes, he is more than he seems. In fact, totally unexpectedly, he's the CHOSEN ONE.
Things that bother me in fantasy novels:
Firing a bow. A bow is shot, or an arrow is loosed. The term firing didn't appear until firearms.
Chainmail. It's mail, even though our article has the wrong name, but points that out in the opening sentence.
Not hobbling your horses at night.
Also, although I do not provide air conditioning for the rabbits, they do get frozen water bottles to lay on when it's hot, so I am trying to keep them comfortable. Should finish up The Quarry this weekend. Pretty good so far, and Ted Raimi is a standout. Not sure if it's better than Until Dawn yet. We'll see how it sticks the landing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, sorry, I missed your latest reply. In Hebrew "firing" (firearm, bow, etc.) comes from the root word of (first) rain (somehow), so no issues there! Finally (finally) finished Eyes of God and now reading Kristen Britain's Green Rider (she's the CHOSEN ONE?), which I am liking so far, though it's still early days. El_C11:17, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Another silly fantasy book thing, people and animals fighting to they're all dead. Animals pretty much never fight to the death, and people generally break and flee with fairly small losses. They almost never continue fighting once they've realized victory is unlikely.
The Quarry didn't stick the landing. Ended up with two of the playable characters dead, one we didn't see die, so not sure how that happened, and one was a live or die decision we chose wrong. The epilogue was pretty lackluster and didn't give much closure. Still a decent game though, but not as good as Until Dawn. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:16, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Padlock Barnstar
The Padlock Barnstar
It's always felt like you're one of the most active admin at page protection and Xtools just confirmed it for me. Thank you for everything that you do. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:00, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Good to be back. In answer to your question: I did and didn't see it. I was just clicking on the pings to make the distracting red go away without really looking at any of em (because ++responsible). But now I'm remembering that ToBeFree had a similar thingy (see above, *bumped*). You think that after Wikipedia:Arbitration_enforcement_log/2021#Motorsports I'd have learned that some minor Arbitration cases will be listed at AEL, but without DS being authorized
I presume it's just successive committees wanting to fuck with me, personally (as always, it's all about me). Funny, though, I'm the most active AE admin on the project and even I get lost in the labrynth. Anyway, I ramble, but my point is: go ahead, do whatever needs to be done to get the WP:BURO to align. It's really all the same to me. P.S. I didn't even remember who Bridget Phillipson is and had to look her up. Cheers! El_C15:26, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello El C, I am a user that you might be familiar from a year ago, you took my extended confirmed rights because I played with the system (WP:GAME). As far as I remember you told me that I have to reach WP:500-30 again (I have searched for the comment, but I couldn't find) and I believe that more than a year passed from that. my data shows that I reached 500 edits on past 365 days.
Additionally, irrelevant to the rights topic, I just noticed that I had unawareness of the rules and didn't know how to represent informations with reliable sources on supporting the development of encyclopedia. Since you were an administrator who paid attention to me, I wanted to inform you about that my awareness increased since back then.
Hey. Sorry, no, I don't remember. Glad to hear you're doing better, though. Feel free to request for the user right to be reinstated at WP:PERM/EC. I have no immediate objections. Good luck! El_C20:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you a lot for your feedback and positive thoughts about me!
Hello El_C, sorry to bother you again. I was just wondering, why is my case on ANI not being interested by Administrators? I mean, is there anything I could do about it? BerkBerk6821:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm clicking, but nothing's happening! It's almost like you posted those ranges in plain text. But I know you wouldn't do that. Must be a glitch in the metric. El_C14:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm opposed. I don't think we need an editor who describe themselves as a "Turkish nationalist," and who is likely to contribute to Armenian genocide denial and otherwise whitewashing it — a crucial facet which has not been meaningfully addressed (which is to say, at all). What, they're gonna do it with greater subtlety? No thanks. El_C10:31, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You had previously yanked tpa from Djm-leighpark (thank you for saving us from all the drivel) but he's now appealing on an alt, I think? I'm not even sure you can call it an appeal but you might get a kick out of reading this utter nonsense, and I quote: Anyway I am somewhat minded commons is a somewhat risky thing and wonder if that is a valid reason for an unblock? If I said I was planning to do smoking on Friday because of this it would likely be seen as a threat, so I won't. WP:CIR .... Djm-mobile (talk) 5:14 pm, 9 August 2022, last Tuesday (2 days ago) (UTC−4)PRAXIDICAE🌈01:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
She was afraid of it for months, until I pushed her into it twice, then she realized it's actually pretty good. My other dog still believes it's full of acid and she can't go in, but she'll still drink from it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:56, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's odd because both dogs eagerly leap into wild water, but the little kiddie pool scares them. When I take Thelma out hunting she'll crash through ponds and rivers looking for birds, or dive to the bottom to get a stick to carry around, but when I was trying to push her into the pool she was acting like it was full of lava. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:13, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
El C, לילך5 is now hounding me and editing seemingly to purposely antagonize me. All but two of their edits today are in opposition to me, and several of them are pointy BS like changing the header here, and editing against an established months-long explicit talk page consensus. Just look at their edits from today, all except Olivia Newton John directly opposed to me. How is this acceptable? I cant make a simple complaint without a horde of 500+30 edit accounts spouting bullshit, so what do you suggest I do? nableezy - 12:17, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you expect me to tell you that I haven't before, Nableezy. Per usual, I'd recommend you go to WP:AE over AN/ANI (even if drafting reports at the latter venues is easier to do than in the former), but per usual, you'll probably just go to AN/ANI, anyway (as is the case now). Which is your prerogative, but let's not pretend. As for me, I found out in the last ARBPIA AE, what happens when you sanction an editor of the 'wrong' side, or ostensibly, just mention the word sides, even if with the most careful qualifications (credibly, though you were around, not by you).
So I've scaled back on ARBPIA considerably and of the mindset of largely leaving topic area regulars and irregulars to their own devices. I also pretty much wrote off Zero0000 (ping for transparency, but not really interested in getting into it) after many years. But whatever, it is what it is. It's not like there's a shortage of work and requests for me in other areas (DS and not), so why would I want to subject myself to that again? No thanks.
I, however, would recommend for you not rely on tools for hounding claims (if at all, use very sparingly), and rather, use normal diffs/summaries evidence format. Those tools are limited in scope and usefulness, and I and other admin usually do not act on evidence that primarily centers on these. Anyway, the way she's been editing at ARBPIA, she'll probably be indeffed or TBAN'd eventually (and probably sooner rather than later). HTH. El_C13:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, do you think it worth an email to Trust and Safety? The latest comments by לילך5 go way beyond what somebody should have to put up with to edit here. nableezy - 13:06, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I don't think it really rises to the level of T&S, whom I sort of doubt would do anything in this instance (because... ARBPIA). So you'll be going for off-project enforcement with probably little to show for it. But who knows. Certainly, that's an option that's available to you, and counter to what some might say, a legit one. Again, though, ultimately, I just don't think it'll go anywhere. El_C13:16, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, sorry I couldn't be of more help. The thing about using T&S, is that the reputation of the Foundation got seriously eroded after WP:FRAM, and now with the weirdness of WP:UCOC ("Enforcement officers," etc.) even more so. So, spare for an WP:EMERGENCY outright, you might get folks unhappy merely for having contacted them. Personally, I think WP:FRAM was a travesty and WP:UCOC is just plain bizarre, but I'm still using T&S like I always have (granted, as an admin), which again, I think is totally legit to do. And the staff I deal with there remain as professional and expedient as always, so credit where credit's due. El_C13:32, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I largely agree, Id like to utilize on-en.wp procedures. But the reason I went to AN/I is that it didnt seem like the hounding was an arbitration enforcement issue. ARBPIA adjacent, but not quite ARBPIA. But I will take future hounding incidents that touch on ARBPIA to AE in the future, but I still do not get why ANI allows for the level of crap that it does. That Wikieditor thread devolved once Icewhiz brought two socks to argue against me and then propose a ban. Its like anything I raise is immediately inundated with that level of participation. I dont even get a response saying "no its not hounding, deal with it" if thats what an uninvolved admin feels it is, it just gets overwhelmed with people who are looking for any excuse to fuck with me. nableezy - 13:41, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've said this many times: it's the format that's largely the problem, because no-word limit + free-flowing threaded discussions get long and convoluted, so I suspect a lot uninvolved AN/ANI reviewers probably just write these off when they see that the underlying content is ARBPIA. Which is not adjacent in this case, it's plain ARBPIA (only). As I elude to above, admins also get fucked with. So, some, like myself, just don't wanna go through that anymore (myself for the reasons noted). El_C13:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
El_C, since you were kind enough to ping me: my opinion, which I still hold, was that you were trying to cancel an highly productive editor for an offence that wasn't serious enough. It gave me no pleasure and lots of pain to oppose you but I felt like I had no choice. I apologise for the manner in which I addressed you, but not for the position I took. Zerotalk14:30, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the manner in which you expressed yourself was what made it extremely challenging to discuss positions or anything else. It also felt like you were being obtuse as well as unresponsive to my repeated points, so it wasn't just tone and tenor. It felt like straight misrepresentation. But the end doesn't justify such means, in my view, regardless of how noble one views their 'position.' I also don't like that you're using the word cancel right now. But it's whatever, you weren't the only one, just one whom I've known and been collegial with for many years. As I said, I've no shortage of other requests, so it is what it is. El_C14:46, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If a quote I don't know of what, if a description I don't know of what, - sorry. In the process of updating to today, but I see you active and - you guess right - have an overdue RD on WP:ITNN, marked ready yesterday: sempé. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
there was only one sempé - look for that, or my name, or take the ready mark - sorry, outing was long, updating pics took time, I thought it was easy enough to find ... - will listen, missed a link ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't realize sempé was a person, I thought it was an obscure greeting or something. It wouldn't be something I'd pick up on, though, unless written it in uppercase—I just don't think of last names in lowercase. El_C20:16, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nice. Honestly, it's been challenging, and in more ways than f'one. But I did get to go to some cool outdoor concerts. El_C19:39, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, sorry, end month IRL backlog seems to be a thing lately. But should be back in, uh... days rather than weeks. Nice, love Debussy. I don't often include classical music in the Songspam, but I've featured his compositions on multiple occasions. Very soothing and rejuvenating; ethereal yet grounded. Big fan. I see that 111 is only 10 lines, so I'll do it real quick right now. El_C17:00, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Phaisit16207, I'd advise for you to link it and provide a summary of the changes/additions on the article talk page to see what other folks think of these. Perhaps collaboration can improve it. After you post on the talk page, you can then link that talk page post in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia/Assessment to advertise it even more to interested editors. In the event that no one comments at all in, say, a week, then you'd basically have a WP:CONSENSUS of WP:SILENCE to apply the edits to the article. And while it's the lowest kind of consensus, as it evaporates as soon as a good faith objection is made (within reason), it's still more than just being WP:BOLD and affecting the changes right away. Which you say don't want to do, anyway, and for which I commend you. As in that scenario, you're placed in the enviable position where you know that you did everything you could to bring people in. A good place to be. G'luck! El_C14:30, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
El_C, I'm sorry for bothering you, but I want to ask you to help me organize this reference from the original into a Cite-encyclopedia. Thanks.
Северная война 1700–21 // Румыния — Сен-Жан-де-Люз [Электронный ресурс]. — 2015. — С. 617—620. — (Большая российская энциклопедия : [в 35 т.] / гл. ред. Ю. С. Осипов ; 2004—2017, т. 29). — ISBN 978-5-85270-366-8.
Phaisit16207, don't worry, you're not bothering me. In answer to your question: I'm not familiar with these style guides cite templates, nor do I regularly use them. If someone wants to streamline my citations later, they're free to do so. But when I cite from Hebrew sources, I almost never bother also copying the Hebrew text, I just translate everything to English. It'd be too inaccessible otherwise. So you should not be displaying un-translated Cyrillic in citations, or anywhere, really.
You could add the Cyrillic in parenthesis, or whatever, that'd be fine. But, as it stands, I can't even tell what I'm looking at with these. After everything is translated into English, the rest is just fine-tuning. Anyway, more broadly, the point is not to get bogged down too much in technical and procedural areas like the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (overall), but rather, just make the content itself accessible, for the English Wikipedia. Personally, I mostly use The Chicago Manual of Style, but more out of habit than anything. Again, I never thought that part of it really mattered. HTH. El_C17:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is translated version.
The Great Northern War 1700–21 // Romania to Saint-Jean-de-Luz [Electronic resource]. — 2015. — p. 617—620. — (Great Russian Encyclopedia : [in 35 volumes] / Yuri Osipov ed. ; 2004—2017, vol. 29). — ISBN 978-5-85270-366-8. -- Phaisit16207 (talk) 17:25, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks okay'ish. I mean, I personally don't use slashes (//) or ndashes (–), unless they're part of the source material. Also, periods are interspersed throughout in a way that, at times, seems redundant. But again, who cares. El_C17:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
like this?
Osipov, Yuriy, ed. (2015) [2004-2017]. "The Great Northern War 1700–21". Great Russian Encyclopedia. Romania to Saint-Jean-de-Luz [Electronic resource] (in Russian). Vol.29. pp.617–20.
Phaisit16207, I mean, you could (tehcnically), but I'm afraid I can't help you with the content end of things. Again, if you want to advertise your changes in a neutral way on the talk page and Wikiproject to seek input from intrested editors, that would be good. Good luck. El_C17:52, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay... Anyway, sorry, Phaisit16207, I don't want to do this anymore. I feel like you're taking me for granted. Not bothering to spell check, not bothering to cite pertinent WP:DIFFs. I'm not gonna do that work for you by guesswork or whatever. Please seek assistance elsewhere moving forward. I think I've done more than enough. Thanks. El_C16:44, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, But other matters [i.e., arbcom, I want to need help, more protection time request, etc.] besides this matter [about expandion] are often discussed. OK? Phaisit16207 (talk) 16:56, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Phaisit16207, sorry, no, not okay. I'd rather you use a pertinent noticeboard or the {{adminhelp}} feature. I have no idea why your writing has become so incoherent, but I'm finding it too hard to understand you. I can't spare the extra time figuring out what you're trying to say (broken English), or what edits are are involved (diffs). There's plenty of users who need my help and who also write clearly and provide evidence unprompted, so I'd rather help them, because I'm trying to ration my time wisely. Hope that makes sense. Again, good luck. El_C17:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This article should probably have the notation that it is under arbcom Eastern Europe sanctions. Not sure exactly what is the process for that. Adoring nanny (talk) 21:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will not be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! El_C18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Semi-protected for a period of 2 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Seeing as they used 68.181.17.191 earlier at Qubadli, that page seems to be somewhat their main focus. But let me know if they continue disrupting some of the other pages and we'll go from there. El_C03:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wagner Group protection
Hey El. Please check the article Wagner Group if it fulfills the conditions for a soft protection against unregistered IP editors for a time. Because for the last week an IP editor(s) has constantly been trying to insert unsourced POV wording and also removed some sourced information and its sources (possible vandalizm), despite being reverted each time by at least half a dozen editors. Thanks in advance! EkoGraf (talk) 18:51, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for resolving that episode. I would have retracted all my complaints if Davey had ever apologized, but the closest he ever got was saying I should've kept my big gob shut and IMHO MrC shouldn't have repeatedly posted on my tp. Anyhow, I just wanted to point out two things but I'd rather not post on Davey's talkpage:
1. I never edit warred at all at Mercedes-Benz TN - I reverted him once (1 time) as I believed I was following BRD. I actually made a point of mentioning that I don't want to restore the photo I preferred several times at ANI, because it is a) subjective and b) had nothing to do with why I reported Davey. I know other editors quickly moved on to discussing the photos, but that is not on me.
2. Secondly, the picture I favored isn't really my upload - I just searched the Commons for a better picture than the existing and cropped this photo, originally taken by ŠJů. While I do take photos of cars, I try my level best to not blanket WP with my own photos in an undue manner, and I hope I have never engaged in an edit war over one of my own works.
Sure, np. About the image: you liked enough to upload it, even if it wasn't the original upload. But I also said that I didn't think it was a problem, which was why I didn't factor it in my summary of the current consensus (or lack thereof, rather). I also don't understand how you can say that you never edit warred at all and that you only reverted him once (1 time). Here's what I see:
Revision as of 22:07, 6 August 2022 (edit) (undo) (thank) Mr.choppers (talk | contribs | block) — Undid revision 1102769703 by Davey2010 (talk) change description. It's not damaged and painted in multiple shades.(diff)
Revision as of 21:38, 18 August 2022 (edit) (undo) (thank) Mr.choppers (talk | contribs | block) — Undid revision 1105072176 by Davey2010 (talk) you might want to be a touch more careful with your reverts. It's a horrible photo but I hadn't removed it.(diff)
Revision as of 07:38, 19 August 2022 (edit) (undo) (thank) Mr.choppers (talk | contribs | block) — Undid revision 1105264310 by Davey2010 (talk) You are completely out of line, both re the image and the 270px. You are arguing about a picture choice (you're wrong, but it's not that important). See WP:THUMBSIZE for more regarding forced thumbnail sizes.(diff)
And there may be more reverts that are not immediately apparent (i.e. not using the Undo feature), but at any event, more than one. Regardless though, it isn't really that important. HTH. El_C04:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can see how it appears that way at a glance, but if you look at the diffs you will see that the second two edits both leave the photo of the green truck. I only removed the forced thumbnail size as per WP guidelines. That is why I even wrote It's a horrible photo but I hadn't removed it and it's not that important in the edit summaries. I had a gut feeling Davey was reverting me without even looking at what I was doing, so to make things extra clear I also wrote on his talkpage which earned me some abuse.
I am not mentioning this because I want Davey to be in any more trouble or anything (I actually think we have had many good encounters in the past), but I am genuinely uncomfortable with having a whole bunch of editors I respect believe that I was edit warring over something so unimportant as one picture over another or (worse) to think that I started an ANI because I like ŠJů's photo better. Thanks, Mr.choppers | ✎ 11:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you were edit warring, but again, it's not a big deal, so I don't know why you keep going on about it. A partial revert is still a revert, and WP:THUMBSIZE is not listed as an edit warring exemption. Anyway, so now you know. Maybe move on...? El_C11:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ONE MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS? (Asking for a Nigerian oil baron friend.) BTW, did you catch Brian Kilmeade using the photoshopped pic / meme of the Raid Judge with Epstein (and even defended its veracity to Big Daddy Hannity, who was, like, wtf?), then the next day say: oh, I meant it as a joke! Ha ha (link)? Good comedy. El_C15:47, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I saw something about that, but I generally don't follow news in that way. Any news that has to battle for ratings and pander to an audience is going to end up doing dumb shit like that, and Fox really wants to stay on top and has to keep the people watching happy. My real question is who the hell produces these shows, and how do they not have a 17 year old on staff who just looks at shit and says "Bro, that's photoshopped, I can tell by the pixels." ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Same, I just caught it in passing. Yeah, and with the watermark. And, it being the rather infamous pic of Maxwell giving Epstein a foot massage (the judge's head was photoshopped over Epstein's head!). But, you know, he does his own research (on Facebook). El_C16:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In my culture, it is customary to pepper conversation liberally with the word "fuck" in all it's many variants. I'd have been quite happy to give him a lesson in colloquial English. Would the pepper help the rabbits stew? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:17, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Feels one-sided, Izno. Had they not continued to press the point and minimize their Godwin with various jabs, I would have let it go. El_C18:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was very particular at pointing to the comment that made no sense to me to make at all. The last time they made a comment in the direction of reasonable complaint (and which you had discussed at the time and in the context it was made) was several hours before that comment and in a sufficiently different spot (in the same section).
You're also the admin in this situation. You know better than to get dragged into a dumb/stupid punching match on an arb page. Izno (talk) 18:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Like I have tried to explain, I intended to compare the AE system with enabling acts in general, not specifically Hitler's well-known version. Now, it was probably a stupid comment even so. Fine. I felt insulted by your reference to Dunning-Kruger, and I handled it badly. So, sorry about that, and I think I'll stay away from that Noticeboard in future. All the best. Tewdar 19:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am! Also, I'm doubtful that you can get a license to hunt Bambi, as opposed to an adult doe. But if you were to hunt the adult doe and orphan Bambi, you'd be a villain. Like, a Disney villainpar excellence.El_C02:12, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Semantics. Bambi's the protagonist and you are the antagonist, you can't pretty it. Yikes, though. Those laws are whack. El_C02:21, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When our hunting season for deer takes place it's beyond being a fawn, and will be out of spots. The antlerless tags are assigned by lottery, and used to manage the population. Also, no sportsman wants to waste a tag on a tiny deer. I've seen at least three large bucks on my trail camera, and I'd much rather take one or two of them and leave the doe. It's all moot though, since I only see deer from my blind when I'm hunting turkey. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:28, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The North American model of wildlife conservation is actually pretty good. Wildlife populations are strong and well maintained. Again, it's all beside the point because I'm cursed to never see a deer in season. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take your word for it. I never hunted and have no interest in doing so, though I would if I had to. The only times I fired guns in NA were in the gun range (and Counter-Strike). El_C03:03, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can rest easy knowing that I don't hunt for the sport of it. I'm interested in providing as much food for my wife and I as possible. Deer hunting is also the most boring shit in the world. I probably answered 200 edit requests while hunting last year. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 03:12, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Hi,
Could you please reconsider your block? I saw it at ANI. I've been working a little on Andrew Jackson as well, and have interacted with CMguy for years. Have you? Almost every competent editor who works with him has had our patience tried with his style of editing. I'm trying to be kind, but I don't know how to put it other than that he isn't very competent. In June a university professor asked me for advice in working with him; we discussed the situation privately. Ask User:Alanscottwalker or User:Parkwells> Maybe MelanieN. Don't ask User:Gwillhickers! They've tangled for years; Gwillhickers is more irascible than Display name 99.
CMguy means well but is biased toward minorities, particularly Black and Native Americans, and against Whites. He expects modern sensibilities in people who lived one or two or more hundred years ago. He makes lots of spelling and grammar errors. He doesn't know how to use sources properly. He knows how to cite them, but typically finds some passage somewhere that he likes and vigorously tries to insert. I cringed when I read that Display name 99 said he "went on the talk page to shriek hysterically about censorship," yet I knew exactly what he meant. That's actually an apt description, just inappropriate.
And Display name 99 rightfully complained that you gave no specific reason for blocking him. His complaint was too long? Did you look at the talk page and follow CMguy's comments? Perhaps Display should be admonished, but I don't see why he gets an indefinite P-block. Please consider unblocking him. Thanks, YoPienso (talk) 00:54, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please take it to ANI, I don't want to have two discussions about the same thing happening in parallel. Thanks. El_C01:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was more discreet to ask the blocking editor personally, specially since you blocked summarily without discussing it at ANI. YoPienso (talk) 01:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Yopienso and Cmguy777: — Yopienso, how is anyone supposed to see your request as something fair and objective when it is filled with personal attacks against two editors? I've had no encounters with Display name 99 since I can't remember and had nothing to do with his getting blocked. You're not helping Display name 99 with this sort of behavior. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:17, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I've made no personal attacks on anyone. I was saying you've tangled with CMguy many times over the years. I never thought you had anything to do with getting Display name 99 blocked since I didn't see you at ANI or at the Andrew Jackson article or talk page. I think the two of you would get along well. I've observed that both of you have trouble getting along well with CMguy. I myself had not worked with Display name 99 before. Best wishes, YoPienso (talk) 01:25, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Long time no see! I enjoyed your comments on the talk page for our Rings of Bezos article, but you'll forgive me for not wanting to touch any of this "viewer reaction" stuff on that page. Said stuff, AFAIAC, is the result of Amazon engaging in tokenism and placing their fanfic characters, many of whom are played by Black actors, front and centre in the marketing, with the clear intent that (a) the "anti-woke" crowd would add their voices to the existing nervousness surrounding Amazon creating Tolkien fanfiction that, in the minds of the general public, will now surely overwrite Tolkien's own writings, and (b) this reaction then be used by Amazon to smear everyone who is nervous as a cyber-fascist. Given that I was already sceptical about the show before anyone was complaining about supposedly colour-blind casting (as I was about those awful Hobbit movies), and that I had myself been targeted by such cyber-fascists (back before the Trump era, when they were just called trolls) on this very site, you will surely appreciate why I find such shenanigans absurd and more than a little offensive.
As for why I say "tokenism" and "supposedly" colour-blind casting, it's pretty obvious that they cast white actors to play Galadriel, Elrond, Gil-galad, Isildur, Annatar, et al. is because they consider whiteness to be a core component of their characters rather than something incidental that doesn't matter. I enjoy the acting in The Mahabharata (1989 film), and IMO the only problem with that film's colour-blind casting is that it largely consisted of a white director hiring white actors to play characters who are traditionally portrayed as ethnically Indian, but they didn't leave Indians out of the cast, and there are Africans and "East Asians" in prominent roles too, not to mention that of the three full-brothers who lead the cast two are white and one is Black, which can be read as a powerful statement on the arbitrariness of "race". The present show, meanwhile, while it can claim the fact that its (mostly white?) producers have cast people of colour in roles that a "traditional interpretation" to be white as a point in its favour over The Mahabharata (where a "non-white story" was made "more white"), it still seems to have made all the non-fanfic, non-background characters white, and I've seen no evidence that this was done for any reason other than that the showrunners consider whiteness to be a more integral part of, for example, Galadriel's character than her being a representative of the Virgin Mary in Tolkien's Catholicism.
Anyway, I agree with you that the writing is poor and feels like bad fanfiction in places. But I have my doubts as to whether any Hollywood screenwriter -- even one experienced at writing good fanfiction -- is capable of writing dialogue like But how shall a man discover whether that time be come or no, save by daring the Door? or Alas that a fey mood should fall on a man so greathearted in this hour of need! If anyone could, they'd be ostracized by the industry long before they were allowed anywhere near a franchise that cost its studio a billion dollars. It seems pretty obvious that Amazon realized their mistake too late to back out completely but not to late to adopt the marketing strategy described in the preceding paragraph.
No, not at all, Hijiri 88. This is a safe space for rants! ;) Race in Tolkien's mythos (or legendarium as he called it) was always geography based, but even at a relatively young age, I remember it bothering me that blacks (in the south) were depicted in such a negative way. So I don't at all mind modernizing that by adding people of colour all over Middle Earth / Arda. And I also don't at all mind heroines over heroes. On the contrary. I'm currently 2/3 into Green Rider, whose protagonist, Karigan, is a young woman. And I'm liking it a lot. Good character, good world building. I don't mind authors whose politics lean right in fiction, so long as the story isn't expressly reactionary.
I'm biased though, so left and right are not the same to me in that sense. So, when left politics are more overt, like, say, with Terry Brooks' Word & Void trilogy (which has a female lead btw, Nest), that's fine, and those are great. But I didn't even know the other Terry, Terry Goodkind, was politically reactionary (libertarian) until years later when I read it in passing. And I still kept buying his books even after, because they're really good. I also liked the Sam Raimi TV adaptation Legend of the Seeker (++ BDSM!). Which ties to Green Rider as its top review on the sleeve is by Goodkind himself. It's likely that him and Kristen Britain are friends, because the main river in the book is called "Terrygood" (lol!).
But tokenism is a good term for this advent of poorly-written, unlikable female characters in many series and films. Female characters that don't really grow because there isn't much stakes. That, coupled with all men being bad, or cowards, or simply tokens to prop up the female leads (unless the men are of colour), almost always results in unwatchable trash. I think the reason for that is the corporate execs hire terrible people like themselves to write these. People who, like themselves, are imitation-progressives. Largely, mercifully, I haven't seen that trend extend to books (though not to jinx it!). The thing about Karigan, Kristen Britain's female lead in Green Rider, for example, is that she is vulnerable, but hardships makes her fierce, and she ultimately preserves. More of those female leads, please! Anyway, good to see you and thanks for sharing your thoughtful thoughts (as always). All the best, El_C00:38, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The rings of bezos definitely isn't great, but so far I think it's fine. It's got swords and such. I think part of the casting for the main characters is that they're trying to make them look somewhat similar to the actors in the Jackson movies, so they can benefit a bit from fans of those movies. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Rings of Bezos — lol! I gotta use that! Again, unlike many of those who are critical of the show, I was entertained (it doesn't take much to entertain me, though), but I still found it to be trash. Thanks for the books recommends, I'll definitely keep those in mind, though I might order the remaining three Green Rider novels first. El_C01:12, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hijiri 88 used the Rings of Bezos above, so they get credit for that. I think I mentioned The Gap Cycle to you before. Best books I've ever read, though emotionally exhausting at times. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:17, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think my biggest critique is that evil returned from hiding literally the same week the elf King is like "Yep, officially no more evil. Call back all of the evil-looker-out-forers." And the sailers moving ropes scene was pretty trash. "Quick! Unlash the rope, pull on it when it's tied off to a pulley that can't possibly work, then relash it!" And gratuitous slow motion horse riding along a beach with a fierce smile.
I think, on average, episode 3 actually had more okay'ish scenes than the first 2 episodes (which, in itself, is a blunder), but yeah, as I was saying, it's trash. Refactoring from here. Scene from episode one (verbatim).
Elrond:But Galadriel, as a friend, I wanna know how you're doing.
Galadriel:Get fucked. I wanna speak to your manager!
But as I was also saying, there's also some great talent pool, but they're just being wasted by terrible writing and absurd character motivations. And not just the cast is wasted. For eg., Bear McCreary is amazing (song spam refactor), but what is with all the repetition? And not everything needs to be orchestral. Jeesh. El_C23:24, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just finished the episode and all I could think of was the "you tried" gold star comic sans ms meme. Also, I think of you can single chop through a 2 for diameter log in a single swing, you could probably just hulk out of the chains. I also laughed out loud at the warg.
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The argument against a republic: President Thatcher
The argument against a monarchy: Crown Prince Mark Thatcher
La nature n'a fait ni serviteur ni maître;
Je ne veux ni donner ni recevoir de lois.
Et ses mains ourdiraient les entrailles du prêtre,
Au défaut d'un cordon pour étrangler les rois.
Nature has made neither servant nor master;
I don't want to give or receive laws.
And its hands would weave the entrails of the priest,
For lack of a cord to strangle kings. (Diderot)
Thanks for providing semi-protection to List of Brahmins and List of Dalits. Since the threads on RFPP is archived I am responding your 2 replies[14][15] here.
This was my first request on RFPP so I was not aware of providing evidence for disruption to justify ECP. While the List of Brahmin article has attracted disruption from autoconfirmed users in recent months,[16][17] and so has List of Dalits,[18][19] it may not be as frequent as it would be needed for ECP.
Another reason why I asked for ECP was that I have been safeguarding these lists for some time now but I don't know how long that will last because last week I did a blunder over which I was reported to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement, for the first time. Overall, 4 admins commented. One had no comment on me, one admin said I should be at least warned, while the other two said I should be topic banned. Can you chime in there and review my case? I have provided assurances not to engage in any form of disruption again and how I will avoid the issues from reoccurring. I believe I should be given one last chance to prove I can edit without engaging in any disruption. Pranesh Ravikumar (talk) 12:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey. Sorry, I don't think if I can spare the time to assist you further in this matter, I'm just too busy atm. Regards, El_C15:45, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Talk:Elizabeth II
Given you protected the talk page, I might mention that it would be good to have the vote about what image to use on a different page dedicated for that discussion perhaps, given that it's attracted a lot of attention and is one major discussion, with myself and a few other IP editors previously weighing in. May be good making note of the talk page protection on that section in the talk page too? 90.198.253.144 (talk) 09:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, IP, I don't wanna do that. But if you want to make an edit request to the protected page, you may do so at WP:RFPP/E. Either way, the protection will expire in 3 days, though given the intensity of the disruption, that may not last long. Good luck! El_C14:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Eyeroll
I certainly agree that we should make RfA great again. But the idea that it'll be the next person to RfA rather than say DanCherek with 281 supports and no opposes made me roll my eyes some. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)
Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Those Psalms look dunzo'd. El_C 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Wow, Evangelische Marktkirche in Wiesbaden looks like an intergalactic spaceship, with pillars. El_C 22:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Like. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. El_C 14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Done. I punctuate! El_C 15:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
El_C 14:27, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Atsme 💬 📧 12:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
BTW, DYK that Monarchies of God's Richard Hawkwood isn't the same person as The Wheel of Time's Artur Hawkwing? Yet they both end up discovering Ameriqua? You've heard it here fifth! Also, I praise you for providing AC to all the bunnies! El_C 14:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Self-trout. Anyway...
Semi-protected for a period of 3 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Best, El_C 10:33, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Atomic service dog! 🏄 El_C 02:03, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
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