Wikipedia:Requested moves: Difference between revisions

For requested mergers, see Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. For removals, see Wikipedia:Guide to deletion. For page history mergers, see Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen.

Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For information on retitling files, categories, and other items, see § When not to use this page.

Before moving a page or requesting a move, please review the article titling policy and the guidelines on primary topics.

Any autoconfirmed user can move a page using the "Move" option in the editing toolbar; see how to move a page for more information. If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

• Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. In such cases, see § Requesting technical moves.
• Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
• A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
• A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
• Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are typically processed after seven days. If consensus supports the move at or after this time, a reviewer will perform it. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved." When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time, or closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

• Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
• Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
• Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
• Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
• Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

• No article exists at the new target title;
• There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
• It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please re-list it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

• Fuat Aslanov → Fuad Aslanov — As a result of vandalism, the page cannot be moved to the requested name by ordinary users, as technically it already "exists". — Parishan (talk) 01:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
• Vural Alakparcı → Vugar Alakbarov — As a result of vandalism, the page cannot be moved to the requested name by ordinary users, as technically it already "exists". — Parishan (talk) 01:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
• Şahin İmzaoğlu → Shahin Imranov — As a result of vandalism, the page cannot be moved to the requested name by ordinary users, as technically it already "exists". — Parishan (talk) 01:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
• Elche/Elx → Elche — Discussion took place on talk page a month ago that having 2 names in 2 different languages with a slash is unusual and undesireable for naming an article. No objections have been noted on talk page and 3 dictionaries and 3 encyclopedias all list the main entry of this Spanish city as Elche. Tried to move the page manually, but it stated that the page already existed. — Kman543210 (talk) 04:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

• 95KGGO Arena → Buccaneer Arena 95KGGO Arena changed its name to Buccaneer Arena (its original name). Buccaneer Arena exists currently as a redirect to 95KGGO Arena when it should be the opposite. DandyDan2007 (talk) 04:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete and contested proposals

With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

• Liga Deportiva Universitaria (Quito) → Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito — "de Quito" is part of the team's name, both officially and informally, as it is necessary to distinguish it from other Liga Deportiva Universitarias in Ecuador. Currently, the page with Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito as a title is a redirect to Liga Deportiva Universitaria (Quito). Digirami (talk) 10:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The page was moved the other way in 2005, with the argument that "de Quito" is not part of the team's name. This moves seems slightly controversial, and it may be best to get feedback on the article's talk page. 87.114.155.75 (talk) 11:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I saw that move and have to state that the guy who moved the page probably had no idea what he was talking about. There are 6 Liga Deportiva Universitarias in Ecuador, making LDU, itself, a generic part of the teams name in the same context as FC in a bunch of other football team's name (like FC Barcelona or Manchester United F.C.). "de Quito" is part of the team's name and has to be part of the title. Period. Digirami (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Template:! → Template:Pipe — (Discuss) — The name of the template is "Pipe". The exclamation mark that is used in the current template name suggests that it has something do with easily inserting an exclamation mark in a page. The only reason why the template name uses an exclamation mark is due to a software limitation of the wiki as a template using the pipe character in the title (or Template:|) isn't allowed. As such, Template:! should just be a shortcut to Template:Pipe. — Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 19:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment it could mean pipe... if you think bangpaths. 70.55.203.112 (talk) 04:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Lightsup55 and the other editors involved in this have not understood that these are two different templates with very different functionality. They can not be merged straight off, since that will break templates that use them. {{!}} is used on more than 3 million pages, so please don't damage that template. {{pipe}} is only used in a handful of templates, but if/when it should be redirected to {{!}} those templates first have to be edited so they don't break. --David Göthberg (talk) 05:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose: David is correct (as I learned the hard way when I tried to merge them without investigating the matter first!). — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
• Mate (beverage) → Maté -LlywelynII (talk) 14:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Yerba maté displays the Latin American discomfort with the accented é due to its Spanish pronunciation, but also that all English authorities (OED, MW, EB, &c.) give maté as the proper English spelling; also has benefit of removing unnecessary beverage tag and putting page where most likely to be searched by native English speakers. Cf. WP:ENGLISH & WP:OR.

• Alice Palmer (Illinois politician) → Alice Palmer — Unnecessary dab, just put {{For}} at the top of the page. — —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Hardly uncontroversial. No evidence this is WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. Needs proper discussion. Tassedethe (talk) 15:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Other proposals

27 September 2008

• Sámuel Teleki (explorer) → Sámuel Teleki —(Discuss)— Revert to previous name of this page. This person appears to be the primary usage for the name "Sámuel Teleki", with many incoming links from articles about Kenya etc and from evidence of Google search. The page was inappropriately moved to "... (explorer)" and a new page was created for the other holder of the name at the undisambiguated form of the name. I have moved the new article to "... (book collector)" as this seems the main thing the other person is famous for, and corrected all necessary links, and wish to move this article back to its original title. --PamD (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC) PamD (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Tweety Bird → Tweety —(Discuss)— Tweety is the most commonly used name for the character. Tweety is also the official name. --YuckieDuck (talk) 17:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Foghorn Leghorn and The Barnyard Dawg → Foghorn Leghorn —(Discuss)— The characters should have separate articles. --YuckieDuck (talk) 17:18, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Cedric Pioline → Cédric Pioline —(Discuss)— Move represents an accurate and verifiable proper name. WP:Requested moves/Tennis is in favour of keeping diacritics in tennis-related articles, and there are several English language sources which include the acute accent, including the publication The Guardian, other encyclopaedias, sports statistics sites, Yahoo, etc. --Maedin\^talk 17:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Xiaxue → ? —(Discuss)— Should be located at her actual name rather than blogger screenname. Additionally, xiaxue is a Chinese phrase which can mean "It's snowing". ——/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 08:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Oki Jubilee Stadium → OKI Jubilee Stadium —(Discuss)— (The correct title should read OKI as OKI Printing Solutions is written in capital letters aswell as their logo. See www.oki.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mas0playa (talk • contribs)

• Saban Entertainment → BVS Entertainment —(Discuss)— Saban Entertainment is now BVS Entertainment --Powergate92 (talk) 03:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Li romans d'Alixandre → Roman d'Alexandre —(Discuss)— "Roman d'Alexandre" is the title used in current English language scholarship on this Old French text. — NYArtsnWords (talk) 22:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

26 September 2008

• List of Adolf Hitler speeches → List of speeches given by Adolf Hitler —(Discuss)— 1. Current name is ambiguous (speeches by or about Hitler, or both?); 2. "Adolf Hitler" not an adjective. --Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose rename: I believe the title is appropriate for the article. It is succinct and clear, no need for a change. Green Squares (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• List of Adolf Hitler books → List of books by or about Adolf Hitler —(Discuss)— 1. Current name is ambiguous; 2. "Adolf Hitler" not an adjective. --Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose rename: I believe the title is appropriate for the article. It is succinct and clear, no need for a change. Green Squares (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• Airbourne (band) → Airbourne —(Discuss)— Page has been moved once, then reverted due to a misapprehension that "airbourne" was a regional spelling of "airborne". As far as I know, it's just a pun, and the move should stand. Note that there is also an Airbourne (air show) linked from the header. --IMSoP (talk) 21:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• Flagellation of Christ (Piero della Francesco) → Flagellation of Christ (Piero della Francesca) —(Discuss)— The Flagellation of Christ is the correct name, and a very common subject, which needs disambiguation. Move to correct my typo, over existing redirect. --Johnbod (talk) 10:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC) Johnbod

• Granny Peace Brigade - NYC → Granny Peace Brigade —(Discuss)— per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Granny Peace Brigade - NYC --Samuel J. Howard (talk) 09:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• Liga Mexicana de Beisbol → Mexican League —(Discuss)— Common English name --—Borgarde^talk 05:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• Template:Infobox Disease → Template:Infobox condition —(Discuss)— A better name for many uses that are not diseases. --Ned Scott 04:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• O'Brien Trophy → O'Brien Cup —(Discuss)— 1. Name as shown on trophy is O'Brien Cup, indicating it was the name during its usage lifetime, which was some decades ago. 2. O'Brien Trophy is ambiguous with Larry O'Brien Trophy. --Alaney2k (talk) 00:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

25 September 2008

• CAPS → Caps —(Discuss)— Caps is primary search term, caps is primary topic, CAPS to divert to caps --Ex nihil (talk) 23:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Decolonization of Africa → Decolonisation of Africa —(Discuss)— The page has strong ties to particular English-speaking nations in Africa and Europe, yet it is written in a different regional form of English which plainly fails to reflect that. --92.1.75.227 (talk) 23:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Apple Store → Apple Retail Store —(Discuss)— Apple refers to their stores as "Apple Retail Stores" rather than simply Apple Stores. Taking once glance at their retail website (http://www.apple.com/retail) will confirm this. The page is called "Apple Retail Store" and with a few lazy exceptions, everything on the page is "Apple Retail Store" Mvjs (talk) 22:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC) --Mvjs (talk) 22:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Sacrifice hit → Sacrifice bunt —(Discuss)— "Sacrifice bunt" is:
  • more common (over 1.5 million hits on google to less than 500,000 for "sacrifice hit", and in my experience as a baseball fan I have never heard the term "sacrifice hit" used—not that that counts for anything by itself :)),
  • more accurate (a sacrifice, by nature, cannot be a hit, and for the purposes of this article the only kind of hit ball that can be a sacrifice is a bunt), and
  • more official (rule 10 of the official ML rules regarding scorekeeping uses the term "sacrifice bunt" in all but one incidence describing this play).

I can see no reason for this article to be under the title "sacrifice hit" instead of "sacrifice bunt". --Pmr2011 (talk) 17:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• MediaWiki:Spam-blacklisting → Wikipedia:Spam blacklisting —(Discuss)— Seems to be outwith the scope of the MediaWiki namespace --Stifle (talk) 15:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Stifle (talk) 15:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• 1800s → 1800–1809 —(Discuss)— After several years of discussion, we now appear to have consensus from all involved parties on making 1800s and similar pages disambig pages; see WP:VPP#1800s. The preferred solution is to move the content of the current 1800s page to 1800–1809. Listing here to invite further discussion; the plan is to put the notification on the talk pages when we have consensus on exactly which pages will be affected. --- Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 14:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Objectivism (Ayn Rand) → Objectivism —(Discuss)— It is a primary topic and title disambiguation is only 3 topics (inclusive of this one) --Karbinski (talk) 14:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Untitled (Dance Gavin Dance album) → Dance Gavin Dance (album) —(Discuss)— (Proposed move over redirect) Listing here to permit broader discussion; this move was requested by a user on the article's talk page but not previously listed. --Russ (talk) 14:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Russ (talk) 14:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Occitan language → Occitan —(Discuss)— No other primary meaning of "Occitan" exists and in such cases Wikipedia:Naming conventions (languages) prescribes dropping the "language" disambiguator. --Peter ^Isotalo 12:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Pope John Paul II (film) → Pope John Paul II (TV miniseries) —(Discuss)- Pope John Paul II is a TV miniseries --82.53.184.80 (talk) 10:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Raymond Kwok Chow → Raymond Chow Kwok-Cheung — (Discuss) — "Kwok" is his Chinese middle name. His full Chinese name is "Chow Kwok-Cheung," Chow being his surname. — Contributor168 (talk) 08:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I better leave this one who knows more about Chinese gangs. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Star Wars: The Force Unleashed → Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (project) — (Discuss) — After this, please move Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (video game) to Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, as well — Diego_pmc ^Talk 07:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
  • That discussion looks unfinished. This seems to be a dispute about which of the pages Star Wars: The Force Unleashed .... is a dominant meaning. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

There have been quite a few days without any response from anyone. The only person disagreeing with the move withdrew his complaint in the end. Diego_pmc ^Talk 17:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Four Brothers (tong) → Lung Kong Tin Yee Association —(Discuss)— After some research, it has become apparent that the official name of the Four Brothers Tong is in fact Lung Kong Tin Yee Association. --Contributor168 (talk) 06:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Indecision → Indecision (band) —(Discuss)— This should be renamed to allow for a dab page to be created --70.55.203.112 (talk) 03:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Safdar Abad → Safdarabad —(Discuss)— More usual spelling --Pahari Sahib (talk) 01:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

24 September 2008

• Thalia-Theater (Hamburg) → Thalia Theater (Hamburg) —(Discuss)— The porper name of this theatre and state owned company is Thalia Theater, although there are more than one Thalia Theater please move to Thalia Theater (Hamburg). Thank you. --Sebastian scha. (talk) 23:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• Jr. Walker & the All Stars → Junior Walker —(Discuss)— Biography, not group is subject of article --Cosprings (talk) 19:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• Fernet Branca → Fernet —(Discuss)— The Real Academia Española (Royal Spanish Academy, the entity that manages the words included in the Spanish dictionary) has received a proposition to include the word "Fernet" in the dictionary, also note that Branca is one of many Fernet brands. For more information, see talk page --MakE ^shout! 01:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• Kiev → Kyiv —(Discuss)— Official Name --Vvolodymyr (talk) 00:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC) see talkpage Talk:Kiev/naming Vvolodymyr (talk) 00:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Please see Talk: Kiev/naming where this is under debate. Theone00 (talk) 04:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

• Doppelgänger (Dungeons & Dragons) → Doppelganger (Dungeons & Dragons) —(Discuss)— In-game spelling doens't use an umlaut. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 00:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• Palme d'Or → Palme d'or — {Discuss} — proper case (see fr:Palme d'or) — // laughing man 00:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

23 September 2008

• Vector (geometric) → Vector (directed quantity) —(Discuss)— See the article's talk page. --A r m y 1 9 8 7 ! ! ! 18:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• ESPNEWS → ESPNews —(Discuss)— Current name is all capitalized only because the trademark holder does it that way, current names violates WP:MOSTM. --TJ Spyke 16:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• Carinthia (province) → Koroška —(Discuss)— Not a province but a historical and statistical region within modern Slovenia. Should be titled by its Slovenian name for disambiguation. --Str1977 ^(talk) 15:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Str1977 ^(talk) 15:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• Hidalgo (Mexico) → Hidalgo (state) —(Discuss)— potential ambiguity with cities in Mexico called Hidalgo --Aille (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• Lipa (political party) → Party Lime Tree —(Discuss)— English name and used at the official Slovenian government page. The same with Democratic Party of Pensioners of Slovenia → Democratic Party of Slovenian Pensioners and Zares → Party for Real --Eleassar ^{my talk} 11:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• Islamic terrorism → Islamist terrorism —(Discuss)— Wikipedia should not conflate the word "Islamic" with "Islamist." The 9/11 Commission Report correctly uses the term "Islamist" and describes what it means [1], as does author Lawrence Wright [2], and other experts. --Aude (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC) ----Aude (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• Chihuahua (Mexico) → Chihuahua —(Discuss)— to revert undiscussed unilateral move, or at least have sort of discussion prior to making such a move --Aille (talk) 00:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed (May 31 or older).

• Criticisms of Objectivism (Ayn Rand) → ? —(Discuss)— The (Ayn Rand) disambiguation seems superfluos as there are no extant articles of a similar title i.e. Criticisms of Objectivism —the skomorokh 19:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

• The Church → The Church (band) —(Discuss)— This is likely not what most people are expecting when typing in "The Church" (ie, probably the Roman Catholic Church instead), so rename to "(band)" and redirect to Church dab page --70.55.203.112 (talk) 12:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

• Demography of Italy → Demographics of Italy: {Discuss}: relayed from User talk:Anthony Appleyard#RM question Anthony Appleyard. (talk) 16:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

• Pioneer → Pioneer (military) —(Discuss)— Discussion to gauge whether the current article is the term's primary meaning. --Muchness (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

• San‘a’ → Sana'a —(Discuss)— English convention...see talk page for evidenceErudy (talk) 07:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC) --Erudy (talk) 07:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

• Angel (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) → ? —(Discuss)— Inaccurate title. —Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 08:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Suggestion Angel (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) → Angel (TV character) or the current accepteable dab term for "television". "Character" wouldn't work as there are about half a dozen characters listed on Angel (disambiguation) (side point: a Angel (character) sub-dab may be needed). Yes, there are other television characters listed, but I think this one is the most likely search under that sub-set. - J Greb (talk) 16:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Relisting as consensus seems to be to move the article, but the destination has yet to be decided. JPG-GR (talk) 23:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
      • Pardon, but there is an on-going discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Buffyverse#Angel's article title, and the consensus there is not to move the page.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

• Cusco → Cuzco —(Discuss)— Both popular and academic uses in either English or Spanish are in favor of the Z-spelling. --Zack Holly Venturi (talk) 07:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)--Zack Holly Venturi (talk) 07:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)