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:Chinese bot, go away. I neither want praise nor condemnation from a bot from the vile Chinese Communist dictatorship. Why don't you go an hang yourself? [[User:Marplesmustgo|Marplesmustgo]] ([[User talk:Marplesmustgo#top|talk]]) 16:34, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hello there. Great work on the tour summaries which have needed doing for a long time. I took the liberty of adding the Wisden match summary to the scorecard link in each of the matches under South African cricket team in England in 1947, so you get both the stats and the prose account. All the best. Jack | talk page 06:38, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:19, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your grossly abusive approach to interaction with other editors is simply not acceptable. If you continue with more of the same after this block expires, you should expect an indefinite block. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:22, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • I will be the voice of reason and calm, when my attempt to add the 8 or so cricket tours (out of 800 or so, since cricket tours became a thing in the 1870s) - given these tours took place in the 1990s in immediate post-apartheid South Africa, not in an obscure outpost of cricket - are not deleted. Any decision to this effect is arbitrary and rational. Boing! [1] Marplesmustgo (talk) 17:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Block and cricket

Hello, and yes, I agree that Americans are by and large ignorant of cricket, its rules, and its traditions. You seem to have done very good work on the cricket pages, and I can imagine it is frustrating to have that work either reverted or wrongly-edited by Americans. The thing about Wikipedia is that we are supposed to make every editor feel comfortable about editing (yeah, like that works, but the key is "trying"). Americans are touchy nowadays about being called names, even when the name isn't a slur or demeaning let alone when they think it is. So maybe give them all a benefit of a doubt, politely point them to links about cricket rules and etiquette, and then hope that Wikipedia editors have enough good sense to at least understand a little of what you have just linked. Bottom line, please be more polite and realize that even edit summaries are communications to fellow Wikipedians, and then pray that they will move on to rugby pages. You are far too productive and good an editor to lose because of feelings being hurt. Thanks for your fine work here. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We're also touchy about people generalizing us and our sensitivities. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 14:18, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The unacceptable attacks include "ignorant American cretin" here, "gormless twat" and "moronic prick" here. Those are totally unacceptable, and you absolutely don't have to be "touchy" to find them offensive - and implying that that's all it is is also unacceptable. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:07, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, those are all wrong to say about fellow editors here (although I personally wouldn't find them offensive or at least not complain about them up-line). That's why a block is totally justified, and I'm just trying to say hello to a fellow editor in trouble and explain that no, those things are not acceptable, and if the behavior continues then the editor may be banned from Wikipedia which would be a loss to the project. Call me a good cop in this situation, but trying for the same result: a change in communication towards "assuming good faith". Randy Kryn (talk) 13:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate you're trying to help, thank you. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:25, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I could not give a damn for your nationality. What I mind is the irrationality of deleting the 8 or 10 tours of post-apartheid SA as Wikipedia articles when, frankly, every tour (800 or so) in cricket history by an important side (i.e. a Test side or an international side) has a page on here, even tours which did not feature Tests, has a page here. It is irrational that the creation of the pages for those 8 or 10 tours has been deleted. Marplesmustgo (talk) 17:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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1) I am not at all sure if I can even reply to to you, given my block.
2) You seem to not understand what is going on here. Adding information, which I have tried to do, is being reverted as soon as it is added. This is hardly acceptable. It is not as if I am trying to add spam or nonsense. I am trying to add facts and, for whatever reason, having it reverted as soon as added. Furthermore, it appears to be a point of principle amongst a certain group of posters that facts added to a certain topic - i.e. Test cricket in South Africa in the 1990s - is to be reverted asap. How should one feel at this? Marplesmustgo (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Given your rudeness and your insults, I really don't know why I should try to help you, but I will. If you have an issue about some Wikipedia content (which in this case appears to be about some cricket tours), here are some things you should not do:

  1. Don't edit closed archive pages to try to continue the dispute there - for one thing, people are not going to see it.
  2. Don't harass, attack and insult people, and don't order people around.

Here's what you should do:

  1. Start a new discussion on an appropriate page, not on a closed archive page - for example, the talk page of the relevant article, and perhaps ask for help at WP:WikiProject Cricket.
  2. Be civil and polite, be constructive, and also listen.
  3. Discuss it calmly and seek consensus, and accept that consensus when it has formed.

I can promise you, if you carry on with your current approach when this block expires, you are almost certain to be blocked indefinitely. The choice is yours. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:21, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And with this, are you not prepared to act if I object to things, and my objections are deleted from the pages they were written on, and it is then presented as if there is no objection? It is difficult to think that there is not a certain group of users whose opinions are privileged, and if their opinions are challenged, the challengers are either blocked, or their comments deleted as if they had never been posted. Goodness me, it is easy to have a consensus if objectors are blocked or their comments deleted! Marplesmustgo (talk) 16:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And, to further this, do see the page of User talk:Onel5969 where my comment is deleted with a comment that I am an "uncivilised moron" - for telling others to not delete pages I create. Marplesmustgo (talk) 16:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've given you my advice. Take it or leave it. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And I have given you my reasons why blocking me is absurd. Revert it or have the alternative. Don't just dismiss it smugly when I have given you reason for the action. Marplesmustgo (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A more constructive approach might be, once your current block is done, to take one of the tours which has not yet been written about - say, the West Indies tour of 98/99 (which is massively significant given the history of SA and WI cricket) - and actually create an article about it which does something other than throw stats at the user. Or you could take the Indian tour of 92/93 which exists as a very, very poor article and develop it - the text from the History of cricket in South Africa from 1990–91 to 2000 article would be an improvement - we're in the ridiculous position of having more context in the parent article than in the supposedly more detailed child article.

In other words, show us what you can do rather than shout at us that it's so unfair. Develop a reputation as someone who can make sensible choices and write reasonable, sourced articles. You might then have more chance at winning an argument. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:22, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I should do exactly that - and it is wrong to pretend the articles or data I add are just "stats thrown at the user" - if, when I did, the articles were not immediately deleted and I blocked for it. What you call a shout of unfair is a howl against verifiable data, deleted. [[2]] is a nice juicy example of what happens when I try. Marplesmustgo (talk) 15:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You were not blocked for your article additions, you were blocked (as a view of your block log clearly shows) for "Personal attacks or harassment" and "Disruptive editing: including personal attacks, incivility, non-collaboration, battleground mentality". When your current block expires, you will need to change your approach to interaction with others if you want to continue as a contributor here. I sincerely hope you will change that initial approach, and that you will have a long and constructive time here. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:30, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So edit in a way which demonstrates that you can create articles that are of a decent standard then. I've clearly shown you what can be done with a few reasonable sources. For the article you link to I've added three reasonable sources as a starting point - that took me, iirc, less than 15 minutes to source and add. That's nothing - the Australian tour article took me a day on and off to work up iirc. But I solved all the issues anyone else had with the page in 15 minutes simply by knowing where one source would be and by finding two others. And this is before we even get to the dope smoking which is a key notability point for this article I would say. It's a long way from finished, but you've been shown a way of creating articles which do more than add scorecards and which actually summarise what occurred - and there are few of those about cricket on this place I'd say. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:22, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dope smoking? What on earth are you talking about? There should be no objection, in the absence of an extant Wikipedia page, to one recording the results of the Test matches in any given series. Where does dope come in? Uncantabrigian (talk) 22:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Three New Zealanders were suspended as a result of smoking dope during the tour. It's one of the most notable things about it. Blue Square Thing (talk) 00:30, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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You appear to know nothing about cricket, and it is disgraceful that you were allowed to veto my article on the 1984–85 Four-Nations Cup while knowing nothing about cricket or even knowing that some sources exist behind a paywall. I don't know what gratification you got from trying to veto my article but that veto has been removed. Shame on you. Don't meddle with Wikipedia articles that deal with subjects you don't understand. Marplesmustgo (talk) 23:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve West Indian cricket team in Pakistan in 1985–86

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{{Re|Boleyn}} You will note every potted/condensed scorecard in those pages has a place for the 'scorecard', which is usually a link to a CricketArchive or a Cricinfo page with a full scorecard. That essentially is a footnote although it does not come over as such.

Each of the international pages I am beginning at the moment also seems to have at least three references in the references list:Wisden. Cricinfo, CricketArchive. These function at footnotes even if not marked as such.

Each page I create at the moment therefore has three clear references for the tournament or series as a whole, along with further references for individual matches.

Good enough for me.Marplesmustgo (talk) 20:59, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve 1988-89 Sharjah Cup

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It would help if you put what sport this tournament was about in the lead.

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Australian election maps

Australia hasn't used FPTP since 1918 so why are all your captions including claims every subsequent election used it? Timrollpickering (Talk) 21:20, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The captions are not claiming that. The maps show clearly it is the primary vote, TPP not being available until 1983. Marplesmustgo (talk) 21:26, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have to be honest: I don't see the value in these maps. Whoever won the state is, as the caption points out, utterly irrelevant to the election (it's not like a US election). Maps showing who won an electorate would be valuable; maps showing who won a state don't tell us much. Frickeg (talk) 21:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I now see the issue Timrollpickering raised, and have corrected it. With regard to the point Frickeg raises, we have no electorate maps for Australia between 1903 and 2007, and so these maps serve the same point the maps on Canadian federal election pages serve; to give some indication of the distribution of the vote across the country. Some information is better than none. Marplesmustgo (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not entirely sure that I agree in this case, and for the record I think the Canadian ones are fairly bad as well. I don't mean any disrespect to you here - they're well done and I certainly wouldn't have the skill to make them look so nice - but they are fundamentally inappropriate for the electoral system, and actually misleading (if I looked at that map, I would assume a proportional system - hence the disclaimers basically saying "this map doesn't actually mean anything"!). They also use different shading for strength of vote (never a good idea for the main electoral map), and worst of all are based on primary vote which gives a hugely wrong impression of actual results in a two-party sense (vastly understating Coalition strength in Victoria throughout the 1950s-70s, for example). No information is better than misleading information. Frickeg (talk) 07:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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