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Greetings! Will you be adding The 11:11 Tour details as you have for Chris Brown's other tours? I noticed the link isn't clickable yet and just wanted to inquire. Also wanted to take a moment to commend you on updating these! These are VERY HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE and I want to give a shout out to the creators! Keep up the great work! Thanks again!! 68.142.158.248 (talk) 19:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, I recall reading some article about a celebrity (EDIT: ah, Danny Masterson, who is also a Scientologist if I recall correctly), and in the "lead" it said, after him being whatever, "...and convicted felon" (because he is) (and now it says "...convicted rapist"). But for this fella, somehow, this is not the case, the "lead" does not mention it. Why?
Why the Chris Brown lawsuit with Warner Bros that the entire worldwide media has covered is not yet in this article? I see something under the ‘false accusations’ section, but I don't see anything about the HBO documentary and the new 500 million dollars lawsuit.... odd — Preceding unsigned comment added by JawzBlack (talk • contribs) 19:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The phrasing in the paragraph detailing browns assault of rihanna is neutral to the point of inaccuracy. It obfuscates reality and serves to excuse Brown of abuse.
"Brown and his then-girlfriend, singer Rihanna, had an argument that escalated into physical violence, with Brown causing Rihanna visible severe facial injuries."
What is the justification for framing this act of assault as a argument between two equal players? Why the use of passive voice "the argument escalated", who escalated it? Who committed the violence? This is a clearly biased phrasing that serves to remove culpability from Brown. Burntbread36 (talk) 02:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the sentence entirely. Why? The press reports are incorrect as the statutory maximum is life as you noted. The top end of the sentencing guidelines is 16 years (see here). The press reports seem to have decided—or, perhaps copied from another press source who decided—that the top end of a sentencing guideline is a "maximum" which is incorrect and misleading to readers. Just taking the top end of the sentencing guideline and saying it is a "maximum" gets worryingly close to assuming that the evidence presented to the court is likely to be such that the judge will conclude that the top end guideline ought to be applied. Those are questions of fact to be determined at trial though. WP:BLPCRIME advises that "editors must seriously consider not including material ... that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured for that crime". It's in keeping with this principle that we do not defer to showbiz hacks on matters of sentencing law (as a quid pro quo, I'm reasonably confident that the editors of Archbold's or the Sentencing Council (etc.) would show similar deference to the learned opinions of showbiz journos on who had the best outfit at the Met Gala). Replacing it with "life" is technically correct—in as much as it reflects what the statute says—but is also likely to be misleading to readers because a life sentence is rather unlikely without either lots of aggravating factors or the application of the dangerous offender provisions. Well, original research, for one thing, and also probably something that is outside of the remit of an article on a popular American R&B singer, and a topic which is covered at length in the article on Sentencing in England and Wales and which could be discussed better in the article on GBH which is linked from the relevant passage of this article. Wishing to avoid misleading the lay reader or inject original research, the least bad option seemed to be to remove the sentence. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:52, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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