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Middle East definition

We can’t use this modern day definition of “middle East” without usage of Near east and Far east. This map is entirely incorrect as it includes the near East and is now completely inaccurate and lost all of its meaning. I propose a new map, which separates the near East from the Middle East, and shows the far East. All labeled. Middle East is supposed to be Mesopotamia to Burma. Central Asia is supposed to be included in the definition of Middle East. Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Turkey etc ARE NOT MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES. Ricemaster12 (talk) 05:37, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:41, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not saying to change the definition by any means. What I am saying though is to INCLUDE the original definition of what the Middle East was. It serves as a great insight for people who are not familiar with the definition (which many people aren’t) and is extremely valuable. All I ask is to include the definition given by the United States Government (picture included) to which I can provide sources and you or other editors can insert. It doesn’t even have to be in the lede. Perhaps somewhere in the body, under the Terminology section, the picture can be included. Ricemaster12 (talk) 04:06, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I have found a resolution for the both of us, sir :)

See latest topic. Ricemaster12 (talk) 04:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Pakistan should be part of the Middle East because if you go back in time you can see many Muslim empires controlled parts of Pakistan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.27.232.2 (talk) 17:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add paragraph to Terminology section:

The term 'SWANA' has been used to refer to South-West Asia and North Africa. This term attempts to distinguish the region in geographical terms, rather than “political terms” as defined by the Western world.

Source: https://aapirc.ucsc.edu/swana/what-is-swana.html Gilgarbon (talk) 21:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: There is a separate page for the Middle East and North Africa which already mentions SWANA. This page covers a narrower region that does not include North Africa, except for Egypt. Jamedeus (talk) 18:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Middle East Map

the green coloured map is inaccurate. Cyprus is not part of the middle east and never has been. Cyprus is an independant island and had joined the EU in May of 2004 This map needs to be corrected. KatieKoupp (talk) 18:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The map represents what's mentioned in the article. M.Bitton (talk) 19:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove UTC+4:30, only Afghanistan uses it, and it isn't in the Middle East proper, it only neighbors it, so this would be incorrect. Marksaeed2024 (talk) 07:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done M.Bitton (talk) 00:02, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change Iraqi Turkmen to Turkmen, as Turkmen is not only in Iraq.

Change Greek Cypriot to Cypriots, there are Turkish Cypriots too.

Add Alawites, Druze, Armenians. IR94025190 (talk) 03:10, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Unclear and unsourced. Archives908 (talk) 22:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Government of the Middle East" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Government of the Middle East has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 1 § Government of the Middle East until a consensus is reached. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In § Countries and territory, I noticed that Yemen does not have its Emblem listed. Please modify the {{Coat of arms}}, element to include the Emblem of Yemen, as it has one. Emblem of Yemen

If nothing can be done, please request a change at Template talk:Coat of arms to modify the code where if a country does not have a coat of arms, but rather an emblem instead, to list an option or express a different code outcome (e.g. if country has emblem show image) ѕιη¢єяєℓу ƒяσм, ᗰOᗪ ᑕᖇEᗩTOᖇ 🏡 🗨 📝 17:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up: I have requested a change over at the {{CoA}} talk page, hoping to fix the issue. A file rendition error was a cause, but maybe an alternation of code would work. ѕιη¢єяєℓу ƒяσм, ᗰOᗪ ᑕᖇEᗩTOᖇ 🏡 🗨 📝 01:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question: The template CoA uses simplified coat of arms for some countries, I believe that is the case with Yemen also, due to the complexity of its Emblem. Is there a simplified version of it? Bunnypranav (talk) 14:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Issue has been fixed via commons,

ѕιη¢єяєℓу ƒяσм, ᗰOᗪ ᑕᖇEᗩTOᖇ 🏡 🗨 📝 04:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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change “not just the part barring East Thrace” to “including East Thrace” Organicbrutalist (talk) 00:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done 『π』BalaM314 〘talk〙 09:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add citation "https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301813400_Economic_Growth_Tourism_Receipts_and_Exchange_Rate_in_MENA_zone_Using_Panel_Causality_Technique" to sentence "In recent years, however, countries such as the UAE, Bahrain, and Jordan have begun attracting greater numbers of tourists because of improving tourist facilities and the relaxing of tourism-related restrictive policies." Heart6008 (talk) 15:33, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This is a bit of a weird one, but as far as I can tell, there is a reasonable chance that this paper used this particular wikipedia page as a source for the matching statement on page 131. Looking back through the edit history of this page, it looks like this sentence developed over many years, existing prior to publication of this paper:

paper publication date Spring 2011, accepted for publication 24 April 2011
Middle East (as revised 18:43, 16 February 2011) -- This revision is close to (but still before) the publication date of the paper.
Middle East (as revised 18:15, 9 May 2010) -- Well before the publication date of the paper and the sentence was already present.

The paper also even includes the "attracting greater number of tourists" (rather than numbers, which reads more clearly), matching the text of the wikipedia page sentence a little too closely for my comfort to believe that it was written without starting from the sentence from the wikipedia page. Unfortunately, I dont see another source in the paper for this sentence, so I don't think this is an appropriate source for this sentence since the sourcing relationship appears (to me) to have gone the other way (wikipedia informing this paper rather than the paper informing wikipedia). Jiltedsquirrel (talk) 21:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your detailed reply! I've been doing citation hunt recently and came across this one. Looking back, there aren't any citations in that paragraph and after skimming through a few of the references, I couldn't find one that contained a similar sentence. I think you're correct in that the paper might've used Wikipedia as a source. Thank you again for your help, and have a great day! Heart6008 (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Please replace Golan Heights flag from Ba'athist Syria to Israel. VARSLAN2010 (talk) 13:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Izno (talk) 18:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this article: Golan Heights VARSLAN2010 (talk) 07:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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In section 2nd paragraph of Middle East#Translations, please add the closing parenthesis after: (terms meaning Near East. 78.9.227.98 (talk) 17:53, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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In section 2nd paragraph of Middle East#Translations, please add the closing parenthesis after: (terms meaning Near East. 78.9.227.98 (talk) 17:53, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done; sorry for rollbacking; I misclicked - OpalYosutebito (talk) 18:06, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Interactive Table does not work properly when ranking by Nominal GDP

The title says it all. 218.250.192.180 (talk) 11:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The citation for the following sentence With the exception of Cyprus, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon and Israel, tourism has been a relatively undeveloped area of the economy, in part because of the socially conservative nature of the region as well as political turmoil in certain regions of the Middle East. In recent years, however, countries such as the UAE, Bahrain, and Jordan have begun attracting greater numbers of tourists because of improving tourist facilities and the relaxing of tourism-related restrictive policies.[citation needed] is https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Travel_and_Tourism_Development_Index_2024.pdf Jetsetter84 (talk) 09:28, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jetsetter84! Could you please point out specifically where in this pdf it says that "countries such as the UAE, Bahrain, and Jordan have begun attracting greater numbers of tourists because of improving tourist facilities and the relaxing of tourism-related restrictive policies." I skimmed through the pdf but I couldn't find it. Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 14:15, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

HI @Lova Falk, Thank you for your note. On page 39 it states that the region "In part, these efforts are reflected in broad increases in government T&T spending as a share of budgets, loosened visa requirements, improvements in the establishment and promotion of cultural resources and the highest regional average for T&T capital spending per employee in the index". If you believe it's not sufficient, we can have it removed. Jetsetter84 (talk) 04:45, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jetsetter84, I found extra sources that I added. I only don't know what to do about the When tag after "In recent years". Do you have an idea? Lova Falk (talk) 06:01, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lova Falk maybe we phrase as since pre-covid (2019) Middle East had significant growth. Here is an article for reference to support it Middle East Tourism Surge: Driven by Strategic Policies and Visionary Planning Jetsetter84 (talk) 08:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jetsetter84, what I read in your source is not since pre-covid, but since after covid: "The Middle East has been a global leader in the recovery of international tourism. The region experienced a remarkable 31% growth above pre-pandemic levels, the highest among all regions". So my suggestion is to write: "since the end of the COVID pandemic". Lova Falk (talk) 08:22, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lova Falk yes you are right after I re-read it again. Apologies about that and agree with your suggestion of writing it "since the end of the COVID pandemic" Jetsetter84 (talk) 06:06, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jetsetter84

Like I changed the text. Thank you for working so well together.

Lova Falk (talk) 06:14, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lova Falk I appreciate all your guidance and please let me help you on any other articles as I'm keen to learn and contribute to the community :) Jetsetter84 (talk) 23:10, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jetsetter84, how nice that you ask, but what would you like to get guidance with? It seems to me that you are doing fine. You may make a mistake, and other people tell you about it, and you learn. Personally, I would never have reverted Qatar, let alone write you a message about it. But it happens. Lova Falk (talk) 05:05, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for an edit to Iran's entry in the "Countries and territory" section

While Islam is Iran's official religion (Shia Islam specifically), under the Iranian constitution Sunni Islam, Judaism, Christianity and Zoroastrianism are all officially recognised and protected minority religions. Might be more accurate to add a "Recognised minority religions section to Iran's entry". Rustttic (talk) 01:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how I managed to mess up my placement of the second double apostrophe. It should be after the word 'religions'. Rustttic (talk) 01:53, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]