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OPindia research article
[edit]I would like to know if I am permitted to utilize the thorough research analysis that Opindia conducted under the heading "Wikipedia's war on India" in a new section of this article titled Investigation. I have carefully reviewed the research article as given below and have identified several items that could improve this page.
https://www.scribd.com/document/767384994/Wikipedia-s-War-on-India-An-OpIndia-Dossier
Thanks 2409:40C2:4054:8D84:CCC:7021:27C:535E (talk) 12:23, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Per community consensus,
OpIndia (RSP entry) is a generally unreliable source for the reasons explained in the article corresponding to this talk page. The use of the linked document is not appropriate for this Wikipedia article, as it would constitute undue weight. However, if a reliable source covers the linked document, that reliable source might be eligible for inclusion. — Newslinger talk 11:26, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
Fake news
[edit]@Vanamonde93: There are many reliable sources clearly asserting that OpIndia is a fake news website.[1][2][3][4][5] We have also made it clear on Fake news website#India and List of fake news websites for years. Can you answer what are you actually disputing? Dympies (talk) 01:09, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- And we prominently report the fact that it has published fake news repeatedly. If you want to use stronger language than that, you need substantive sources, and not OpEds. This is the only one of your sources that counts for anything. Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:21, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- It is a fake news website. Not just this but this has also provided enough context as to why they call OpIndia a fake news. See this too. Do you have any sources that dispute this fact? Dympies (talk) 01:48, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- The CUP source is actually quite good. I would suggest reframing the sentence based on that and additionally citing the detailed newslaundry source. The wording you added was quite redundant, however. I would suggest simply omitting "news", and amending the rest of the sentence to include "misinformation and propaganda", citing the CUP source. There's also details in there ("poses as a factchecker"...BJP propaganda...Sharma's prior affiliation) that should go in the body. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:18, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- You should propose what's the exact wording you would prefer. Dympies (talk) 02:05, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The CUP source is actually quite good. I would suggest reframing the sentence based on that and additionally citing the detailed newslaundry source. The wording you added was quite redundant, however. I would suggest simply omitting "news", and amending the rest of the sentence to include "misinformation and propaganda", citing the CUP source. There's also details in there ("poses as a factchecker"...BJP propaganda...Sharma's prior affiliation) that should go in the body. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:18, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- It is a fake news website. Not just this but this has also provided enough context as to why they call OpIndia a fake news. See this too. Do you have any sources that dispute this fact? Dympies (talk) 01:48, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
Fake news
[edit]Opindia cannot be considered as a fake news website now as it hasn't published fake news since 2021 and nowadays , when they publish news , they show a tweet of ANI or other news channels to support that. They have improved significantly now. Also the organisation which termed opindia as fake news website was a partner of Altnews till april 2020 which is opindia's biggest rival. You can just look at the news articles after march 2021 . They have changed drastically. We can now just say that it is an organisation and write their fake news under a separate title named Controversies . That would be much better 2405:201:4001:419C:B56F:68EF:AE98:8FD0 (talk) 14:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- As original research is not permitted in Wikipedia articles, your claim that OpIndia has stopped publishing fake news since 2021 needs to be supported by reliable sources before it can be incorporated into the article. — Newslinger talk 09:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Case registered against OpIndia for promoting enmity, creating fake news; 7 April 2023. GrabUp - Talk 18:59, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- AltNews like websites are biased and should not be considered as a reliable source as they provide fake proofs and is owned by son of a politician in India and one of the co-founders was arrested as he made Hinduphobic comments and created an edited video to target a girl who was just using her freedom of speech Sarvagyalal (talk) 17:30, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyalal: So, what you want know here? GrabUp - Talk 17:39, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alt News was certified in 2019 by the
International Fact-Checking Network (RSP entry), which is a positive indicator of its reliability. If you would like to inquire about the reliability of Alt News, feel free to start a new discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard. — Newslinger talk 21:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- It might be because AltNews was signatory partner of this organisation till April 2020, and friends and partners help each other. Sarvagyalal (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Signatory partners have to be certified. That's how the network functions: it assesses that organisations meet its criteria, certifies them, and then they become partners.
- If you want to contend that AltNews shouldn't be trusted, you will need to bring actual evidence to suggest it is untrustworthy. AntiDionysius (talk) 13:39, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.vishvasnews.com/english/viral/fact-check-alt-news-report-presents-false-misleading-claims-and-distorted-facts/
- here is the proof. 2405:201:4001:419C:85ED:FE0D:F687:2B2F (talk) 06:47, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- altnewd has always promoted hinduphobia (Redacted) 2405:201:4001:419C:85ED:FE0D:F687:2B2F (talk) 06:49, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- (Redacted) they are completely biased towards the congress party which was ruling party in india for almost 53 years. (Redacted) Sarvagyalal (talk) 13:48, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- In Vishvas News's February 2023 fact check that you linked, Vishvas News objected to a July 2022 article published by Alt News, claiming that the Alt News article said: "Hindi media news organisation Dainik Jagran has not used the term 'Flood Jehad' but has tried to give a communal colour to the matter". However, the July 2022 Alt News article actually said: "Hindi media outlet Dainik Jagran didn’t use the phrase 'flood jihad' but its report stated, 'There are signs of a deep conspiracy behind this.'" Vishvas News even includes a screenshot of Alt News's article with the correct quote, in contrast to the incorrect quote in Vishvas News's article text. A archived copy from July 2022 (via the Wayback Machine) confirms that Alt News used the same language for this sentence from the date of publication. It is unclear why Vishvas News misquoted Alt News, when both the screenshot Vishvas News provided and the Alt News article that Vishvas News links to contain different language.Based on the above, it is clear that Vishvas News is a questionable source, and Vishvas News's incorrect quotation of Alt News has no bearing on Alt News's reliability. See also Alt News's response to Vishvas News's claims. Feel free to start a discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard if you would like to examine these sources further.Finally, your unsourced comments against Mohammed Zubair are in violation of Wikipedia's content policy regarding living persons. Please avoid making such comments, including on talk pages. — Newslinger talk 05:20, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- It might be because AltNews was signatory partner of this organisation till April 2020, and friends and partners help each other. Sarvagyalal (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- AltNews like websites are biased and should not be considered as a reliable source as they provide fake proofs and is owned by son of a politician in India and one of the co-founders was arrested as he made Hinduphobic comments and created an edited video to target a girl who was just using her freedom of speech Sarvagyalal (talk) 17:30, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Post-ANI case
[edit]Perhaps Indian High Courts will order Wikipedia to remove "defamatory content" against OpIndia also. Let's see how Indian courts protect free speech. Nathularog (talk) 08:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Newslaundry
[edit]Newslaundry is a left wing organisation funded by Pierre Omidyar( as per them only) , so how can it be considered as reliable if it is a left wing website and Opindia as unreliable if it is a right wing website . Also stop spreading Hinduphobia by defaming Hindus. wikipedia should be neutral not biased . wikipedia has no reliable source other than biased left wing funded websites. 2405:201:4001:419C:85ED:FE0D:F687:2B2F (talk) 06:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Your comments have provided no evidence that Newslaundry is "left wing", and additionally, bias does not disqualify a source from being reliable.
OpIndia (RSP entry) is considered questionable because of its pattern of publishing false and fabricated information; its far-right political orientation, by itself, is not the factor that makes it questionable. Reliably sourced information about Hindu nationalist publications such as OpIndia is not "Hinduphobic". — Newslinger talk 06:05, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
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