User talk:Deepfriedokra
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- Due to time constraints, I'll be spending less time on Wikipedia than I want to. If anyone raises concerns here about a block I made, and I do not respond in a timely manner, please bring your concerns to WP:XRV. Similarly, if anyone raises concerns here about a deletion I performed, and I do not respond in a timely manner, please bring your concerns to WP:DRV. Thank you.
- Any admin should feel free to undo an admin action of mine without prior discussion. A ping would be nice. I sometimes unblock high-risk appellants. Sometimes it does not work out. It would not be wheel-warring to reblock the recidivistic among them.
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User talk:Deepfriedokra/archives
Hello. You reverted an IP that actually made what looks like a good edit on this page before you protected it. I wasn't the one who denied the unblock request. An edit conflict messed something up when I was trying to fix some formatting. It was actually User:DMacks who denied the request. --Onorem (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Onorem: Looked liked more vandalism. PhilKnight removed talk page access after all the trolling. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:29, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
Considering Retirement
[edit]Hi there Deepfriedokra, I don't think we've spoken for a while. I was just curious to see why you have been considering retirement lately. I've been on a semi-wikibreak for a little while now, so I can understand if your enthusiasm has been waning a bit since you've been editing for a number of years. You've done a lot of thankless work, and I get the impression that having to work on the backlogs and dealing with a stream of drama that never seems to fully abate can take a toll on a person. I've seen a bunch of editors who stage a "return" yet never seem to get to the level of activity they once had because they just have a lot to deal with and get tired of some of the stupid things that sometimes go on inside the "Backrooms" of the project. I'm not entirely sure yet that I'll get back to my peak level of activity either but I try to stay within the norms and ask around if there are steps I need to make sure that I'm not entirely clueless about our changing PAGs. I haven't been an admin or user for nearly as long as you so forgive me if my perspective is more limited, but if you ever want to chat or talk about what brought you to this point my email and talk page are open. Your work here is appreciated. Fathoms Below (talk) 16:53, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Fathoms Below: Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:08, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'll just stick my nose into this conversation and pretend it's a welcome intrusion:
- Sorry to hear you're in this position, DFO, but it struck a chord with me too. Perhaps I'm just projecting my own issues onto you, but one of the reasons I've become increasingly dissatisfied with WP, and have considered a de facto retirement myself, is that I see a lot of changes happening, both in culture and in practices, some of which I don't like (or, more precisely, I'm often OK with them in theory but I disagree how they're being implemented). I don't have the time to devote to WP to try to participate in discussions related to those changes. Yet, if/when I do have more time for WP again in the future, those changes will affect me.
- There used to be more people who *did* have time for WP whose judgment I trusted very, very much, but many of them have reduced their time on WP over the years for various understandable reasons (for example, 3 of the 4 people I mentioned long ago in WP:SOLVED don't really edit anymore; I really ought to move that back to my user space). So I can't just say "well, it's OK, it's in capable hands".
- Anyway, I sympathize. Hope you get your mojo back (or at least more of your free time) Floquenbeam (talk) 17:47, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Pretty much everything Floquenbeam says rings true for me. I'm perhaps a bit more stoical about it. Culture and practices change. I may not agree with the changes, the changes may eventually force me and others out, but that's the way of things. Still, I do wish I had more time to advocate for certain changes. Doing so carries such an immense cost, in time and in energy. Wikipedia itself is one of the most amazing projects ever and I just wish it wasn't often so draining to help maintain. Anyway, Deepfriedokra, I hope you stick around. I'm rather suspicious of okra, but always deeply appreciate your work and our interactions. --Yamla (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- And here I simply assumed that DFO's regular complaints about being old and tired were the reason. I say this with love for all of you: let the man rest, you jerks! He's earned it. The rest of us are just having a midlife crisis. -- asilvering (talk) 19:01, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- I thank you all for your words and I appreciate you all more than I can say. I empathize with your concerns for changes ongoing. And while it is true that I'm old and grey, and have lost my way, and that all my tomorrows were yesterday, I have more to do in a day that I can get done. So I must set priorities and do what needs to be done in real life before I can do what I enjoy on Wikipedia. I've been on Wikipedia for a very long time, and it has given me more joy than anything else in my life.
- I still remember the lessons I learned participating in RFA's. I'm ever mindful of the need to change along with the changes around me. I also keep in mind lessons learned from the recent desysops. I do the best I can to stay current.
- On the other hand, I don't want to become the sort of admin or long term user who, like little Jackie Paper, one grey night comes no more. The sort who clings sentimentally to memories of good times and to a title I no longer deserve-- someone who games the system in a desperate effort to hold on to what I've already lost. So I'm laying the groundwork and preparing now for the inevitable. It is my hope to last at least until November. On the other hand, my time constraints could loosen and I go on another almost 20 years. Only time will tell, and only God knows.
- Best, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:26, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- And here I simply assumed that DFO's regular complaints about being old and tired were the reason. I say this with love for all of you: let the man rest, you jerks! He's earned it. The rest of us are just having a midlife crisis. -- asilvering (talk) 19:01, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Pretty much everything Floquenbeam says rings true for me. I'm perhaps a bit more stoical about it. Culture and practices change. I may not agree with the changes, the changes may eventually force me and others out, but that's the way of things. Still, I do wish I had more time to advocate for certain changes. Doing so carries such an immense cost, in time and in energy. Wikipedia itself is one of the most amazing projects ever and I just wish it wasn't often so draining to help maintain. Anyway, Deepfriedokra, I hope you stick around. I'm rather suspicious of okra, but always deeply appreciate your work and our interactions. --Yamla (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2025 (UTC)