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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 05:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ronkay Arslan (June 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CoconutOctopus were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a large language model, such as ChatGPT. Their outputs usually have multiple issues that prevent them from meeting our guidelines on writing articles. These include:

Promotional tone, editorializing and other words to watch
Vague, generic, and speculative statements extrapolated from similar subjects
Essay-like writing
Hallucinations (plausible-sounding, but false information) and non-existent references
Close paraphrasing

Please address these issues. The best way to do it is usually to read reliable sources and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See our help page on large language models.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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CoconutOctopus talk 22:28, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Vikiloger! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! CoconutOctopus talk 22:28, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CoconutOctopus, Thank you for your kind message and for taking the time to review my draft. I understand the feedback, and I’ll do my best to review the guidelines and improve the article based on the points you mentioned. I really appreciate your help and support as I continue learning how to contribute properly to Wikipedia! Vikiloger (talk) 23:17, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CoconutOctopus! 😊 I did my best to follow your suggestions and keep everything as simple and clear as possible. If the draft still isn’t suitable, I’m more than happy to keep working on it. I really appreciate your kind guidance and feedback. Thank you again! — Vikiloger Vikiloger (talk) 23:44, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 2025

Please do not introduce links to draft articles in actual articles. Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the Manual of Style. These links have been removed. Thank you. Taffer 😊💬_(she/they) 22:58, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for the kind and helpful note. I’m still learning and doing my best to understand and follow the wikipedia guidelines. I really appreciate your time and gentle reminder.. it helps a lot! Vikiloger (talk) 23:15, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All good! It's a very understandable thing to do. Best of luck with your work on the draft. I hope you enjoy your time here, and happy editing! Taffer 😊💬_(she/they) 23:16, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Taffer! 😊 I’ve made all the changes you suggested and tried to follow the guidelines as clearly as I could. If it’s not too much trouble, I’d be very grateful if you could take a quick look. Any feedback you have would really help me improve further. Thank you so much for your time! 🙏 — Vikiloger Vikiloger (talk) 23:40, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not the one who declined your submission, that would be @CoconutOctopus. I'm not an AFC reviewer, so my eye for this is lacking, but I can tell you that a glaring problem is a lack of sources. Since you're writing a biography of a living person, every change that could possibly be challenged must be accompanied by a citation to a reliable source. From a skim of the sources you cited, only the boxofficemojo.com citation is marked as reliable, and citations to IMDB should generally be avoided per WP:IMDB.

In short: get more reliable sources. WP:RSP may be helpful. Hope that all helps! Taffer 😊💬_(she/they) 23:46, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, it was mentioned in an above template, but I can't recommend the teahouse enough. Lurking there and asking questions helped tremendously when I first got started editing, and I still poke my head in with questions to this day. The folks in there are friendly, helpful, and can point you in good directions for any general editing questions you have. Taffer 😊💬_(she/they) 23:54, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your kind message and detailed advice. I really appreciate your time and your suggestions. You’re right.. I will focus on adding more reliable sources and avoid IMDb. I’m also checking out WPRSP and will spend more time at the Teahouse.

This is my first time editing on Wikipedia, so all your feedback helps me grow. Thanks again! 🙏 Vikiloger (talk) 00:00, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ronkay Arslan (June 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by GoldRomean were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ronkay Arslan and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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GoldRomean (talk) 02:24, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GoldRomean,

Thank you very much for your feedback. I’ve carefully reviewed your notes and made sure to address the concerns. I’ve removed or reworded all promotional or non neutral phrasing, and added additional reliable, third party sources to support the article.

I truly appreciate your guidance and will keep improving based on it. Please let me know if there is anything else I can fix.

Many thanks again for your time and help! 🙏 Vikiloger (talk) 03:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Every statement in your article needs sources; please add sources to sections such as "Music and performance" and all sentences without sources (or remove the sentences). Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 03:38, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GoldRomean,

Thank you again for your help and feedback. 🙏 I looked at your new comments and made more changes. I removed anything that didn’t have a source, and added better sources from news and media. I also tried to make the article more neutral and clear.

This is my first time editing like this, so I’m learning a lot. I’m trying to follow all the Wikipedia rules and I really appreciate your support. If you see anything else I should fix, please let me know.

Thanks again for your time! Vikiloger (talk) 03:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's great. You still need sources for "Artistic style" and "Early life and education". GoldRomean (talk) 03:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As you kindly pointed out and as mentioned by other helpful reviewers, I’ve added reliable sources to the flagged sections such as “Early life and education”. I also removed the parts that lacked strong sourcing or could not be verified properly.

I’m happy to continue improving the article and appreciate your guidance throughout the process. Looking forward to your further feedback. Thank you again for your time and support! 🙏 Vikiloger (talk) 04:18, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome :). Please address possible COI below? GoldRomean (talk) 04:21, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much again for your continued guidance and support! I’ve just added the COI disclosure at the bottom of the draft page, as requested. I truly appreciate all your help throughout this process. Please feel free to let me know if there’s anything else I should review or improve! Vikiloger (talk) 04:25, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Vikiloger. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template), including links or details of reliable sources that support your suggestions;
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. GoldRomean (talk) 03:38, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

== Conflict of interest disclosure ==

I confirm that I have a conflict of interest regarding this article, as I am the subject of it. I have followed Wikipedia’s content guidelines, used only reliable third-party sources, and removed any unsourced or promotional content. I welcome further feedback and will continue to make improvements based on reviewer guidance. — Vikiloger (talk) 13 June 2025 Vikiloger (talk) 04:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! GoldRomean likely has their own guidance to offer, but until then I'd like to offer my compliments: I'd noticed your earlier COI disclosures(thanks for doing that pre-emptively by the way), but hadn't realized that you were the subject of the article. That draft is one of the better autobiographies I've personally seen attempted. Props for the quality of your work despite your inherent bias. Taffer 😊💬_(she/they) 04:38, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, I wanted to quickly note that I’ve now removed the “Early life and education” section, as I understand your concerns regarding primary sources. At this time, I don’t have access to strong secondary sources to support that section.. so I believe it’s better to remove it entirely for now. If verifiable, independent sources become available in the future (e.g. interviews or profiles), I’ll consider re-adding it appropriately.Thank you again for your support and helpful guidance throughout this process! – Vikiloger 😊

Vikiloger (talk) 04:43, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ronkay Arslan (June 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by SafariScribe were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ronkay Arslan and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:44, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ronkay Arslan (June 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Kovcszaln6 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ronkay Arslan and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Kovcszaln6 (talk) 15:48, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]