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Indonesia

International Coordination of Revolutionary Parties and Organizations

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Since this article was created in 2011, it has been based almost entirely on citations to sources either from the ICOR itself or from its affiliate members. Attempts to find coverage in reliable secondary source turned up very little. Neither of the cited secondary sources in this article provide significant coverage, only giving the ICOR a passing reference in the wider context of another subject. A cursory Google Scholar search brought up a few self-published Marxist word documents, and one book about German political parties that only mentions the ICOR in passing.

As I have been unable to find significant coverage of this international organisation in reliable sources, and as notability is not inherited from any of its affiliated organisations, I do not think this meets the notability criteria for organisations and am nominating it for deletion. Grnrchst (talk) 09:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, Cameroon, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Egypt, Ivory Coast, Kenya, Morocco, South Africa, Tunisia, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, China, Indonesia, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Iran, India, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, Australia, Brazil, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Mexico, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay, and United States of America. Grnrchst (talk) 09:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I believe there may be a language / coverage issue, as this is English Wikipedia, and there are two or three English-speaking organizations within ICOR. I will look into it this week. Castroonthemoon (talk) 21:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Most online sources I found were either non-independent or were not in-depth. The one book cited in the article was written by Stefan Engel, former chairman of the MLPD, a member organization of ICOR. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 08:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paramytha Lestari Mulyarto

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN, see: deletion log_1 dan log_2 on idwiki, per notability. 🅷🅴🅽🆁🅸 ^{(Let's talk)} ✉ 13:36, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, and Indonesia. Shellwood (talk) 13:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 June 21. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 13:58, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Bolaang Mongondow mine collapse

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most .. accidents ..) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Indonesia. XYZ1233212 (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Mine collapses that kill 29 people aren't very routine. I don't think point 4 should be read this expansively, this seems notable. Reywas92^Talk 20:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SUSTAINED. Only secondary sources contribute to GNG. Wikipedia is not a news aggregator. Death count is not a factor in determining notability. Anyone is welcome to add a history section to Bolaang Mongondow Regency and add a mention of this, or to create a list of mine collapses and add this as an item in the list. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 19:40, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gusti Irwan Wibowo

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN, At first glance it looks like a news site, it is not formulated as an article. Lobogamio (talk) 23:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 June 16. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:07, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Entertainment, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:26, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Lobogamio did you create an account just to tag this? @Liz: this seems odd? Thief-River-Faller (talk) 12:22, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom --pro-anti-air (talk) 17:53, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails GNG and NMUSICIAN. The mere act of releasing an album is not a guarantee of notability, and I see nothing otherwise that would do so. As written, the article fails all 12 of the NMUSICIAN criteria. As far as GNG, of the three sources that are there, the first is a blogspot link, which fails RS. The second source only established year of birth and where he went to school, neither of which establish notability. The third source appears to be some sort of celebrity digital media site, and whether it's reliable is probably up for debate. The fact that this article is getting filled with sources that aren't establishing anything other than basic data, and was started by an editor who otherwise does nothing but make large numbers of small formatting edits (like removing middle initials from wikilinks), and has a number of edits that are causing the user to get talkpage notices tells me there's a potential WP:CIR issue here. 146.115.58.160 (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I don't doubt the primary claims about sourcing, I don't think your claims about the editor who created are necessarily accurate or relveant.

For example the claim about "otherwise does nothing but make large numbers of small formatting edits" seems not only an unnecessary attack, as AfD should be considering primarily the article. But it also appears inaccurate, as they are informed (on their talk page) that an article they have created is "in the news", which means I am unsure as to why you have decided this may be a WP:CIR issue (as the comments on their talk page suggest some level of comptency in creating articles). Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 18:24, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to get pedantic, the "in the news" was for an article the user updated (not created), and that update consisted solely of changing the infobox template used (for some unknown reason) and adding a reference to a Fox News article for date of death, which was subsequently removed by another editor. The user neither created nor substantially contributed to that article, and the rest of the talk page is full of warnings about infobox editing, contentious topics editing, lack of RS, etc. I would also note the user generally has no edits over 200 bytes in length (most of which are mobile edits), and when the user created Assistant Secretary of Defense for Cyber Policy, the actual listbox in the article says "space policy" (which I fixed). So I would say that yes, it's relevant because the user has problems with basic editing and proofing. 146.115.58.160 (talk) 19:13, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Uh? I created the article, I have over 1,200 page creations to my name, are you getting me mixed up with one of the other editors? I have never made random edits like the ones you are claiming? ....also I did not create Assistant Secretary of Defense for Cyber Policy Thief-River-Faller (talk) 22:31, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify, I have been able to find some sources with English translations (of dubious quality but at least the gist can be understood) that provide some sort of analysis of his work (such as this one), although not being particularly involved in music specific articles and policy I am unsure if this would simply count as routine coverage or might impart at least some notability. The same news agency discusses what was intended to be his attendance to a festival and collaboration with other artists here, although this one I'm far doubtful of meaningfully contributing. As such, having excluded use of obituaries, I think that someone more dedicated (and who can read Indonesian) may be able to find further sourcing for notability, and thus draftification such that more work can be done may be suitable although I can also understand the reasons for deletion and hold no fundemental opposition to it.. Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 18:11, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Based on the new information added by @Thedisponible. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 23:56, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article as it currently stands is considerably different to when this was tagged, User:Thedisponible has improved the article. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 15:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: to assess changes later in the AfD
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:05, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per nom, the subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. Many of the sources cited are WP:PRIMARY and the ones that seem halfway decent (such as CNN Indonesia and the IDN Times) are WP:ROUTINE. There's not enough WP:SIGCOV to warrant an article in my opinion.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Pekalongan flood and landslide

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most .. accidents ..) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Indonesia. XYZ1233212 (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:15, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:SIGCOV and WP:LASTING: "Events that have a noted and sourced permanent effect of historical significance are likely to be notable. This includes, for example, natural disasters that result in widespread destruction, since they lead to rebuilding ..." Effects here included a 14-day disaster emergency, eleven districts that were affected, buildings that were destroyed, bridges that were swept away, 25 deaths, 13 injured, 2 or 3 people who disappeared (often also dead). gidonb (talk) 03:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not the subject of sustained significant secondary coverage. Articles like this should not be created unless the event is written about retrospectively. Wikipedia is not a repository of miscellaneous news stories. Falls far below the standard set at WP:LASTING. Note that quantities associated with a subject are not factored into AfD. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:52, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, quantities associated with a subject are not factored into AfD. Yet, that is stating the irrelevant. The relevant information is that, like the above, WP:EFFECTs are factored into AfDs so your argument was already refuted before it was written! gidonb (talk) 03:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:07, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. gidonb (talk) 03:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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