Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MPCon

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The result was delete. Discounting the IP !votes, there is consensus to delete. Nakon 04:54, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MPCon

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Non notable org, no citations of significant coverage in independent, sources. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 16:54, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:54, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. Only hits were local or just college paper stories, no depth of coverage. There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Please {{ping}} me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 17:33, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Cited sources include the Detroit Free Press and Detroit Fox 2 News. Yes they're local news sources but major new sources and reputable. Dismiss them as local and you'll have to include the Chicago Tribune, New York Times, Washington Post with that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.97.75.145 (talk) 22:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't make much sense. Local papers covering local things versus national papers covering national things: very different. It's telling of this event's larger import when mainstream source don't report on it. In this case, the audience is local. – czar 23:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95 ^Talk 17:45, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~. I'm not sure if there is supposed to be a new page for the discussion following a relisting or if it is appropriate for a commenter from the original discussion to reiterate their point but here it goes... This article is well cited, and sufficiently describes a notable event with over a decade of history. I don't believe the cited sources can be dismissed simply for being local. The Detroit Free Press is a reputable and reliable source and the 6th largest in the U.S. by Sunday circulation... not that size should matter. 12.97.75.145 (talk) 03:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Struck your bolded !vote above. Comments are unlimited, but you can only !vote once in an AfD – czar 03:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

... the article is mostly sourced to college papers, which are unreliable."Well cited" would mean that there are multiple, reliable sources. Even counting Detroit Free Press, there is no significant coverage. – czar 03:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I'm kind of confused as to why this is a thing. I check the wikipedia around this time every year to see if I missed the next event. I love attending this event and I don't know why it would go to deletion on Wikipedia. MPCon was one of the largest LANs in the United States and played a major part in helping one of the bigger non-profits that revolve around video games (Gamers Outreach Foundation). The history of the LAN is well none within the video gaming community and I have had my chances (and won) many professional tournaments out there sponsored by major organizations including Dell, Intel, AMD, ATI, Nvidia, etc. This kind of event doesn't really expand much further and even bigger events, the national media rarely covers it (I found a QuakeCON article from 16 years ago). The citations (reliable or unreliable) are there. It's not an opinion piece, but a piece about actual events, with actual people with photographic proof of each event. Don't know how much more reliability we may need. — 68.32.93.223 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 05:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]

If this was a famous event, you'd have no trouble finding coverage of it in reliable, secondary sources, even just industry publications if not "national media". But as it stands, there next to none. – czar 05:40, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There really is no industry publications for LAN parties..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.93.223 (talk) 06:19, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hence why there are no articles to write anything verifiable for this entry. WP doesn't keep article topics when coverage in reliable sources doesn't exist. (?) – czar 06:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia's reliable sources for video games, I was able to find a reliable source (Technology Tell) and edited the main page to show the work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.93.223 (talk) 16:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] only brings up MPCon in passing mention, and isn't about the event at all. – czar 17:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The event the article about is MPCon. It was a combined event as is noted on the list of events. I preferred the earlier cited article from MLive but they're pretty similar coverage of the event. 2601:40A:8000:2A:5CB:CF:F113:CF95 (talk) 00:16, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, the event and article are about "Gamers Outreach Foundation", as said in the title and lede. MPCon is just as incidental to the event as "CyGamZ". – czar 01:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is not just as incidental. It was MPCon XX a 400 person BYOC LAN with a console Halo tournament. Where charity proceeds went to Gamers For Giving run by Gamers Outreach Foundation. Sepharo (talk) 04:13, 8 August 2015 (UTC) I'm also 2601:40A:8000:2A:5CB:CF:F113:CF95.[reply]

Delete the few sources provided are all local.--Vaypertrail (talk) 14:01, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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