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Nagamani Srinath

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN and WP:GNG. Winning an award does not grant inherent notability. Sources are mainly WP:NEWSORGINDIA. CNMall41 (talk) 18:29, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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*Delete - per nom. SachinSwami (talk) 18:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per Nomination Destinyokhiria (talk) 07:23, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: if the Sangeet Natak Akademi Award is really "the highest Indian recognition given to people in the field of performing arts.", then this loks like notability. PamD 15:16, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note that she has an article in Telugu Wikipedia - I have merged her two records in Wikidata, so it now shows as a link from the en.wiki article. PamD 15:41, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Wikidata merge. I understand your contention but do not believe notability is inherent for simply winning an award. --CNMall41 (talk) 15:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CNMall41 OK, looking at WP:MUSICBIO, criteria 7 and 8 appear to be met, unless you consider that 8 only applies to western popular music. PamD 19:51, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think something on the level the award is being claimed to be would fall under that criteria so Western/India would have no bearing. What I am saying is that even with an award, we still need significant coverage. Just winning an award does not guarantee notability. It even specifically says "may" be notable under that criteria. The sources we have are pour such as this (presented in the comment below) which is clearly unreliable as WP:NEWSORGINDIA. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- In addition to the Sangeet Natak Akademi Award, Nagamani Srinath was also honored with the Rajyotsava Award in 1998, the second-highest civilian honor conferred by the Karnataka Government[1]. Furthermore, according to an article published in The New Indian Express on June 22, 2015, she was awarded the Sangita Kala Acharya Award by the Madras Music Academy, Chennai, for her outstanding contributions to the field of Carnatic music[2].-SachinSwami (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
According to this source she has won some other notable awards such as Karnataka Kalashree. Also she has significant coverage in The Hindu and Deccan Herald.Afstromen (talk) 05:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Afstromen, all the sources I included don’t fully support the claim; they are all weak. Mentioning an award alone isn’t enough; you need sources that clearly reference Nagamani Srinath’s work, like a review. For example, in Akaal: The Unconquered, when I checked, all the sources you added were weak. Later, I searched and added 5 reviews in the Reception section, which are sufficient to fully support the film and pass WP:GNG. Though the rules for films and individuals differ, reviews clearly referencing the work are sufficient for support. (I have no intention of misleading editors, so I apologize.) SachinSwami (talk) 08:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Afstromen: you duplicated one of the sources which could indicate you did not look closely enough at them to see they are mainly routine announcements. --CNMall41 (talk) 15:54, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CNMall41 Are you talking about The Hindu article or both?Afstromen (talk) 17:25, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You listed the DH twice in your comment. Both the DH and The Hindu are her giving the information by the way. Interviews and all content provided by her so not independent. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:34, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh No, I listed the source initially to point the awards. It was not my intention to list it twice or to give the impression that the sources were different. Afstromen (talk) 17:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see that now. Thanks for the explanation. I still maintain that neither of those are independent. I would also think if she won the "highest award" as claimed, there would be more than just NEWSORGINDIA and a few interview type references. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadspike [Talk] 04:27, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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TKatKa

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Not seeing how this group meets WP:BAND notability guidelines. LInks provided are just WP:ROUTINE or passing mentions. ZimZalaBim ^talk 22:34, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Well, they exist, and have been played at least once on BBC Radio 1 per [3]. Apart from that, per the nom, I am unable to find any evidence of meeting WP:MUSICBIO. ResonantDis_tortion 07:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maurizio Pisati

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Before I edited this article, it linked to a youtube video, the artist’s website, a blog, and a place to order an album of his—all placed under the references section. The article exists in three other languages—commonplace for most older articles—and they all cite databases which sit in the authority control template on English Wikipedia, and are insufficient to make this article notable. Checking online, I cannot find other sources. Roast (talk) 19:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - We are not MySpace. Bearian (talk) 00:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tula Small

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The assertions of notability in this article are that they were in a reality TV series, and is a musician. There is no coverage in reliable sources about this person in either capacity. Fails to satisfy notability on all counts. Whpq (talk) 13:29, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Very non-notable individual, being in a TV show isn't quite enough. Musical career [4], with no charted singles, major album releases or any sort of musical notability. I don't find any sourcing we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nomination. I only found this mention when searching Google News and ProQuest. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 14:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails both GNG and NSINGER. Seems TOOSOON. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:HAMMER - the album, as yet unnamed, "is to be released". Bearian (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Dream Show 4: Dream The Future

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This article is about an upcoming event that is completely unreferenced and makes no claim of notability. The contents of the article may be moved to NCT Dream, the band organising this event, if deemed necessary, or draftification as alternatives. If it was notable, then there would be clear referencing and evidence of planning: which there isn't. The Troutinator - Slap me | 10:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Malevolent Creation members

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It's debatable whether a list dedicated to all former/current members significantly sourced to WP:QS bloggy sources of marginally notable band is encyclopedic. Graywalls (talk) 23:30, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mëstiza (DJs)

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Although the article includes some secondary sources, the content does not demonstrate sufficient encyclopedic notability, as it merely confirms the existence of the DJ duo without providing substantial information. Therefore, I am initiating this deletion discussion. CarlosEduardoPA (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Carlos, you added a not to the article to delete it, but it has been published for months and approved on the english side when it says you are an editor mainly for the Spanish wiki. The sources are from big newspapers and the artists are in line to others that have articles on the site. The writing and info is also relevant and they are on wikidata. San.alonso.r (talk) 20:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @San.alonso.r, how are you? First of all, thank you for notifying me on eswiki and for letting me know about your response here. I initiated this AfD for the reasons outlined in my initial message: from my perspective, the article in its current state does not clearly demonstrate encyclopedic notability, as it mainly points out the existence of the DJ duo. While it does include valid bibliographic references —as I mentioned in my first comment— I believe the writing does not effectively convey the level of notability being claimed. Of course, this is just my opinion, and that’s precisely why we open discussions like this —to hear the community’s views. In any case, I encourage you to continue improving and expanding the article so that its content more clearly reflects the notability you’re referring to. In fact, that was also the reason I added the 30-day template on eswiki. All the best. CarlosEduardoPA (talk) 20:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I made it short on purpose, but I'll add more info to it in the next 30 days San.alonso.r (talk) 20:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it following your notes. Discography added and milestones San.alonso.r (talk) 22:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The deletion rationale appears to indicate that there are secondary sources referenced, but implies the article needs work. That is not a justifiable reason for deletion, and with a quick check identifying the article subject has coverage in secondary sources such as [5], [6], [7], and [8], I propose a keep per WP:MUSICBIO#1. ResonantDis_tortion 21:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added milestones, discography and more information to support notability San.alonso.r (talk) 22:05, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per above sources that show notability. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 07:19, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as has significant reliable sources coverage such as newspapers El Pais and Elmundo and other reliable sources such as Rolling Stone and Vanity Fair all already referenced in the article. AfD s are about deciding whether the subject is notable as per WP:GNG which I believe this passes, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:40, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Willy Rodriguez (band)

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Unable to locate any background details in reliable secondary sources. No indication of awards or charted songs. Mostly sourced sourced by Bandcamp and Genius. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails WP:NBAND. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 19:37, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Souleye (hip-hop artist)

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Previous AfD closed as no consensus two years ago, but looking back at it I really think it was close to deletion and deserves to be relitigated. On top of the lack of sourcing at the time, additional sources presented in that discussion were rejected for either being about a different person or being poorly written and possibly sponsored/otherwise biased to a degree that it shouldn't be usable. There has been no substantial expansion of the article since (in fact, it has actually gotten marginally smaller, though not in any ways that particularly matter), and its notability status doesn't appear to have changed in the slightest. I support either deletion or redirecting to Alanis Morissette#Relationships with {{r from spouse}}, whichever is preferred, but either way I don't think this article should remain. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Sources 3, 5, 11 and 17 are either about the individual or about albums they've released. That's more than enough to show notability for musicians here. Oaktree b (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Loveless (American band)

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Almost completely unsourced. No evidence that this group meets WP:NBAND. Few incoming links, minimal pageviews. 162 etc. (talk) 03:09, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the band's album, see WP:NALBUM. Unsourced and not notable:

162 etc. (talk) 03:14, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete both: Ephemeral local indie band, fails WP:BAND and the GNG going away. Ravenswing 13:34, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gusti Irwan Wibowo

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN, At first glance it looks like a news site, it is not formulated as an article. Lobogamio (talk) 23:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment @Lobogamio did you create an account just to tag this? @Liz: this seems odd? Thief-River-Faller (talk) 12:22, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom --pro-anti-air (talk) 17:53, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails GNG and NMUSICIAN. The mere act of releasing an album is not a guarantee of notability, and I see nothing otherwise that would do so. As written, the article fails all 12 of the NMUSICIAN criteria. As far as GNG, of the three sources that are there, the first is a blogspot link, which fails RS. The second source only established year of birth and where he went to school, neither of which establish notability. The third source appears to be some sort of celebrity digital media site, and whether it's reliable is probably up for debate. The fact that this article is getting filled with sources that aren't establishing anything other than basic data, and was started by an editor who otherwise does nothing but make large numbers of small formatting edits (like removing middle initials from wikilinks), and has a number of edits that are causing the user to get talkpage notices tells me there's a potential WP:CIR issue here. 146.115.58.160 (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I don't doubt the primary claims about sourcing, I don't think your claims about the editor who created are necessarily accurate or relveant.

For example the claim about "otherwise does nothing but make large numbers of small formatting edits" seems not only an unnecessary attack, as AfD should be considering primarily the article. But it also appears inaccurate, as they are informed (on their talk page) that an article they have created is "in the news", which means I am unsure as to why you have decided this may be a WP:CIR issue (as the comments on their talk page suggest some level of comptency in creating articles). Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 18:24, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to get pedantic, the "in the news" was for an article the user updated (not created), and that update consisted solely of changing the infobox template used (for some unknown reason) and adding a reference to a Fox News article for date of death, which was subsequently removed by another editor. The user neither created nor substantially contributed to that article, and the rest of the talk page is full of warnings about infobox editing, contentious topics editing, lack of RS, etc. I would also note the user generally has no edits over 200 bytes in length (most of which are mobile edits), and when the user created Assistant Secretary of Defense for Cyber Policy, the actual listbox in the article says "space policy" (which I fixed). So I would say that yes, it's relevant because the user has problems with basic editing and proofing. 146.115.58.160 (talk) 19:13, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Uh? I created the article, I have over 1,200 page creations to my name, are you getting me mixed up with one of the other editors? I have never made random edits like the ones you are claiming? ....also I did not create Assistant Secretary of Defense for Cyber Policy Thief-River-Faller (talk) 22:31, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify, I have been able to find some sources with English translations (of dubious quality but at least the gist can be understood) that provide some sort of analysis of his work (such as this one), although not being particularly involved in music specific articles and policy I am unsure if this would simply count as routine coverage or might impart at least some notability. The same news agency discusses what was intended to be his attendance to a festival and collaboration with other artists here, although this one I'm far doubtful of meaningfully contributing. As such, having excluded use of obituaries, I think that someone more dedicated (and who can read Indonesian) may be able to find further sourcing for notability, and thus draftification such that more work can be done may be suitable although I can also understand the reasons for deletion and hold no fundemental opposition to it.. Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 18:11, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

R. S. Nandakumar

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Promotional piece by coi/upe editor. He gets a few mentions, but not the type of in-depth coverage needed to show they meet WP:GNG. And they do not meet any of the criteria to pass WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:45, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete notwithstanding the latest refbombing of every WP:PASSINGMENTION available. Also sanction Supersumu for ToU/PAID violations (demonstrated by their sneaking this one back in under a new name. —Fortuna, imperatrix 14:45, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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~~:DO NOT DELETE.~~
Its not a new name. As you can see, the previous page (r s nandakumar) was blanked and then deleted by me. In India, the Surnames are abbreviated into initials that need "."; the family of the person who is the subject of this article requested for the change.@

This wiki page now has no negative links nor does it have 404s showing in sources. Sources have been extended to include articles, journals and news sources from 20+ years.

~~Please advice on what else one can do to improve the article. Thank you. Namaste. Supersumu (talk) 17:57, 15 June 2025 (UTC)~~— Supersumu (talk • contribs) is blocked for having used sockpuppets in this debate. [reply]

the previous page (r s nandakumar) was blanked and then deleted by me, sorry, what? It was deleted by Seraphimblade, an administrator, as being unambiguously promotional. —Fortuna, imperatrix 18:53, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, i meant to say i deleted the information in the page. I apologize, i am new to Wikipedia. I have tried to improve the page with reliable sources and links. Supersumu (talk) 18:59, 15 June 2025 (UTC)— Supersumu (talk • contribs) is blocked for having used sockpuppets in this debate. [reply]

Update is withstanding WP:GNG. Do not deleteInnathatha (talk) 18:53, 15 June 2025 (UTC)— Innathatha (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Supersumu (talk · contribs). [reply]

~~I apologize. Hadnt noticed the broken 404s. I have updated the article with reliable sources and links to articles, news publications and journals. Supersumu (talk) 19:01, 15 June 2025 (UTC)~~— Supersumu (talk • contribs) is blocked for having used sockpuppets in this debate. [reply]

Suffokate (band)

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Repost of previously deleted and salted material: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suffokate * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:51, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hojat Ashrafzadeh

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Was draftified, then moved back without improvement. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:30, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I’ve looked in Farsi and can see that the subject is a prolific musician, but all I can find is download sites and no in depth third party sources. Mccapra (talk) 16:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Taylor (Christian rock musician)

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Chris Taylor's individual notability boils down to winning a soap jingle contest (of which I can't find any evidence online) and being nominated for a minor music award. This falls well short of the criteria at WP:NSINGER. The information can easily be summarized in a sentence or two at Love Coma; merge per WP:BANDMEMBER. 162 etc. (talk) 16:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Love Coma. On second thought, 100% agreed with LWG. just as Amakuru stated, the award is plausible that he is notable. Needs more references, though. As of now it seems like his relevance is contingent on Love Coma.--Burroughs'10 (talk) 16:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Love Coma. The references in this article could be used to add a note to Love Coma that Chris Taylor went on to a solo career, and a link to Chris's website in Love Coma's external links would cover the rest of the information in this article. -- LWG ^talk 16:59, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as there are reliable sources reviews of his albums such as here and biographical sources here, here imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:59, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Love Coma. Arguably, he's not notable outside of the band. A few biographical details can be added. Bearian (talk) 14:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Liz Lamere

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Lack of independant notability. Most refs are about Alan Vega. TheLongTone (talk) 13:36, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. - Liz Lamere was and is a major creator of music over the past twenty years as well as a key producer of her own work as well as Alan Vega's work. She has been a part of and mentor in a critical movement in music since the mid-1980s. Laurakdcwiki (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And we have no sources that talk about her beyond brief mentions, your statement is not supported by the sources. Oaktree b (talk) 00:45, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep — Liz Lamere clearly meets Wikipedia’s notability standards as a musician, producer, and author with significant, sustained coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources, including Rolling Stone, The New York Times, Pitchfork, and Magnet Magazine. Her career spans over three decades, during which she co-produced three posthumous Alan Vega albums — It, Mutator, and Insurrection — all covered in major media outlets. Lamere has released two solo albums on In The Red Records and co-authored Infinite Dreams: The Life of Alan Vega, a professionally published biography featuring a foreword by Bruce Springsteen. Her work has received independent attention beyond her association with Vega, and the article is supported by 17 citations from high-quality sources. This is clearly more than trivial or incidental notability. Cannery Row (talk) 14:58, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Have you noticed that all the reliable sources are about Alan Vega?TheLongTone (talk) 15:08, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please specify which of the sources are more than trivial, as the only mention her name in passing. You'll need more than these to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:44, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep enough coverage on her own accord to set her apart from Alan Vega connection--Burroughs'10 (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I see that two of the above opinions are of very new editors and the third, also a new editor, is the page creator. Call me suspicious, but....I'm suspicious,TheLongTone (talk) 15:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TheLongTone Why do you say "the third, also a new editor, is the page creator"? The page was created by Cannery Row (talk · contribs), who has been creating and editing music articles since 2010. PamD 08:27, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, maybe you're assuming that a red-linked editor is always new. No, some just prefer to keep a low profile. PamD 08:29, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Sources 2 and 4 are interviews with Liz, the rest are about her spouse. None of these are extensive coverage, most only mention her in passing. None of these are helpful. I don't see coverage about this person either. Oaktree b (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Much of the cited coverage is indeed in the context of Alan Vega, however this reliable source is very clear that Lamere was not simply his spouse, but rather "his frequent collaborator" so provided creative input in her own right. Another example in Pitchfork magazine where the subject clearly has co-recording credit on Mutator. The subject has released two solo albums which have received coverage in independent sources, such as Gale A810819644. Furthermore the book she co-authored has received reliable critical attention, for example [9]. Multiple sources with non-trivial coverage of the subject and her works; enough in my view for a WP:BASIC/WP:MUSICBIO pass. ResonantDis_tortion 08:36, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Plenty of sourcing about her albums and book. An article like this (ref 17 at the moment) is about her and her album, not him, even though he gets a mention in the title ("Liz Lamere Alan Vega's Longtime Collaborator Announces Debut Album"). PamD 08:36, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

comment These so-called reliable sources lok pretty niche to me.TheLongTone (talk) 13:32, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the sources may be debatable/unassessed; but Record Collector, BrooklynVegan, and Pitchfork (magazine) are all listed reliable at WP:RSMUSIC. And certainly the Library Journal appears to meet RS criteria. ResonantDis_tortion 16:58, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: — Liz Lamere meets notability criteria based on her own professional achievements. She has released two solo albums on the respected label *In The Red Records*, both of which received independent press coverage. In 2024, she co-authored a professionally published biography, *Infinite Dreams: The Life of Alan Vega*, which received critical attention and a foreword by Bruce Springsteen. Her solo work and authorship have been covered in major media outlets including *Rolling Stone*, and she was personally interviewed by *The New York Times* in both 2017 and 2023. This establishes significant independent coverage beyond her association with Alan Vega. Additionally, her three-decade collaboration with Vega — during which she performed most of the electronic instrumentation on his albums, co-wrote songs, co-produced, toured extensively, and managed his career — is itself notable and should not be dismissed simply because many articles focus on Vega. Her creative contributions were integral to their joint work and form part of a documented career spanning more than 30 years. --99.42.1.246 (talk) 17:16, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Liz Lamere’s co-authorship of the approximately 400-page hardcover biography, Infinite Dreams: The Life of Alan Vega, constitutes a significant literary achievement that deepens historical understanding of one of underground music’s most influential figures. Professionally published and introduced by Bruce Springsteen, the book offers rare primary insight into Vega’s legacy while highlighting Lamere’s own role as a cultural documentarian and creative peer. Her position as biographer and archivist is distinct from, yet informed by, her decades of musical collaboration with Vega. The book has received critical attention in national outlets, including an interview with The New York Times, reinforcing her notability beyond association. Lamere has also performed on numerous albums throughout the 1990s and released two internationally distributed solo records in 2022 and 2024, available both digitally and on vinyl. These were supported by solo tours in the U.S. and Europe, along with media appearances on radio and podcasts focused on her original work. Lamere’s combined contributions as a musician, author, and public voice underscore her notability, as does her enduring influence as a role model for emerging women artists in music. --2A0D:E487:118F:661A:3939:96C1:D3D6:1590 (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of satisfying the notability guidelines. The references are either dead links or reports of minor details such as changing the company that manages her work, not substantial coverage of her. Searching for better sources was a total failure; it turned up this Wikipedia article, her Facebook account, a site offering downloads of her music, etc, no reliable independent sources. (PROD contested with no reason given. ) JBW (talk) 11:02, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. No RS for notability.Littenberg (talk) 00:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Trampsta

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Fail to meet GNG and SNG WP:COMPOSER Uncle Bash007 (talk) 06:29, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:NMUSIC. Svartner (talk) 03:24, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Something is odd here. Very few press articles, but invited in festivals worldwide and YouTube video have millions of views. While the number of views isn't a criteria per se, it could be valuable to keep this article as a placeholder to answer the question "who's that artist with lot of views?", that was my motivation creating that article. From WP:NMUSIC, could weakly match Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes, or standards used in a notable music genre.. --Dereckson (talk) 18:47, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Views on YouTube do not guarantee notability. Svartner (talk) 16:20, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ripe Banana Skins

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Seems to fail WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. Did a search per WP:BEFORE and found nothing relevant in news nor books. Google only pops up music host sites. The only sources I found with specific coverage was [10] which reads like an advertisement and [11] which looks like it raises WP:UGC issues. The article is also entirely unsourced and the external links are either dead or were taken over. 🪷 nahida 00:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Was able to find some local coverage on the band, here and here. The band still seems to be active; most of the coverage seems trivial, however, and I'm not sure if it passes WP:NM. They did win a prize from the Argentine Film Critics Association for a movie's soundtrack they made. Coeusin (talk) 01:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This might be relevant as well. Coeusin (talk) 01:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Having reviewed the sources I found, and the applicable policies, I feel this article is notable. Coeusin (talk) 20:56, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the sources identified in this discussion by Coeusin including three articles in the newspaper Última Hora (Paraguay) and others, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:18, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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